Community Conversation => Transitioning => Hormone replacement therapy => Topic started by: RidingTheTigerFEMME on October 12, 2016, 01:27:23 AM Return to Full Version
Title: What's the best way to reverse male development without feminization?
Post by: RidingTheTigerFEMME on October 12, 2016, 01:27:23 AM
Post by: RidingTheTigerFEMME on October 12, 2016, 01:27:23 AM
I'd like to know the best way to degrade/atrophy/reverse male secondary sex characteristics and go back a few stages on the Tanner scale without noticeable feminization? I've read that one should start with an anti-androgen, but that you can revert masculine muscularity, body hair, and testicle size best by low-dose estrogen too, albeit a lesser dose than one would use for transitioning to female.
I know using an anti-androgen only is safer, but for folks who don't mind losing their masculine traits permanently, and understand the fertility consequences, AA + low-dose E sounds like the way to go to roll back Tanner sexual development stages.
Any thoughts/experiences?
I know using an anti-androgen only is safer, but for folks who don't mind losing their masculine traits permanently, and understand the fertility consequences, AA + low-dose E sounds like the way to go to roll back Tanner sexual development stages.
Any thoughts/experiences?
Title: Re: What's the best way to reverse male development without feminization?
Post by: RidingTheTigerFEMME on October 12, 2016, 01:33:48 AM
Post by: RidingTheTigerFEMME on October 12, 2016, 01:33:48 AM
I've heard of folks using tamoxifen to stop breasts from developing, while receiving the effects of estrogen that are compatible with androgyny: decreased muscle mass, softer skin, getting rid of body hair, less aggression, etc.
Title: Re: What's the best way to reverse male development without feminization?
Post by: RidingTheTigerFEMME on October 12, 2016, 01:55:34 AM
Post by: RidingTheTigerFEMME on October 12, 2016, 01:55:34 AM
The goal would be to "retune" the male hormonal system by vastly reducing gonadal testosterone production, increasing SHBG and aromatase, and keep LH down until the testicles have atrophied to the point they don't produce much.
Ideally whatever T the shrunken gonads still produces would be converted to E by aromatase, or bound by SHBG, keeping free T in the prepubescent or female range. But there would also be sufficient T or E to maintain bone density problems that arise from castration.
Ideally whatever T the shrunken gonads still produces would be converted to E by aromatase, or bound by SHBG, keeping free T in the prepubescent or female range. But there would also be sufficient T or E to maintain bone density problems that arise from castration.
Title: Re: What's the best way to reverse male development without feminization?
Post by: AnonyMs on October 12, 2016, 07:38:38 AM
Post by: AnonyMs on October 12, 2016, 07:38:38 AM
There's a good post on low dose HRT
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,130268.0.html
You probably can't use AA only as it leads to osteoporosis (very bad). If you do try it you'd want to monitor your bones to make sure you're not developing it, and perhaps you can take calcium supplements to help prevent it. You'd want a good doctor.
I'm not clear on what you're trying to achieve. Personally I'm on full dose of HRT for years now and still present male.
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,130268.0.html
You probably can't use AA only as it leads to osteoporosis (very bad). If you do try it you'd want to monitor your bones to make sure you're not developing it, and perhaps you can take calcium supplements to help prevent it. You'd want a good doctor.
I'm not clear on what you're trying to achieve. Personally I'm on full dose of HRT for years now and still present male.
Title: Re: What's the best way to reverse male development without feminization?
Post by: KayXo on October 14, 2016, 02:15:57 PM
Post by: KayXo on October 14, 2016, 02:15:57 PM
You need some E to replace lost T. Tamoxifen can pose health risks (i.e. blood clots). I think your goal would be difficult to achieve.