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Title: Shoe Size
Post by: Xirafel on October 29, 2016, 01:38:03 AM
Do the hormones change the shoe size? I keep finding shoes which are a size too small x.x
Title: Re: Shoe Size
Post by: Veronica J on October 29, 2016, 02:38:02 AM
nope, it has zero effect on bone structure. but it does affect fat distrobution and the skin and bo and the mind etc


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Title: Re: Shoe Size
Post by: Xirafel on October 29, 2016, 03:01:00 AM
Some people say one thing. Some people say another.
How does it affect fat distribution?
Title: Re: Shoe Size
Post by: warlockmaker on October 29, 2016, 03:17:28 AM
It has zero effect. Your bones cannot shrink. But what affect foot size is your weight and fatty tissue affect the size. Heavier weight causes more pressure on your feet causing expansion, having fatty tissue increases your foot size. So unless you are losing or gaining alot of weight it will have no effect.
Title: Re: Shoe Size
Post by: Xirafel on October 29, 2016, 03:22:10 AM
With any luck, it wouldn't take surgery, that would just be another annoying bill x.x
Well, there was that thing which keeps squeezing to distort the bones. Uh, what was it called again...

Quote from: warlockmaker on October 29, 2016, 03:17:28 AM
It has zero effect. Your bones cannot shrink. But what affect foot size is your weight and fatty tissue affect the size. Heavier weight causes more pressure on your feet causing expansion, having fatty tissue increases your foot size. So unless you are losing or gaining alot of weight it will have no effect.
Losing weight. Is that all? Okay~
Title: Re: Shoe Size
Post by: Xirafel on October 29, 2016, 07:59:38 AM
Quote from: VeronicaMJ on October 29, 2016, 02:38:02 AM
nope, it has zero effect on bone structure. but it does affect fat distrobution and the skin and bo and the mind etc
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Title: Re: Shoe Size
Post by: JoanneB on October 29, 2016, 09:02:26 AM
I used to be and still mostly am a men's size 10 to 10 1/2 thanks to a super high arch a few extra foot bones. (yet another trans-irony of mine). Oddly, like all things women sized, over the past 40 years or so what was a Size X seems to be X-2 or more. In many women's shoes now my former needed to be size 12-14, is now maybe I can squeeze into a 10, that magic sweet spot where shoes transition from cute to Butt Ugly with 4" inch heels minimum to further limit my choices

After 7 years of HRT, I think vanity sizing had a lot more to do with my shoes size then my feet being a tad smaller then they were. Dropping about 20-30 lbs is another factor. But I also started walking 4-5 miles a day.
Title: Re: Shoe Size
Post by: Stevie on October 29, 2016, 09:12:56 AM
 Not sure if its weight loss, hormones or a bit of both. I wore a size 12 in men's shoes, and I now wear a size 11 in women's. I have been on HRT 18 months but I have also lost a little over 200lbs. 
Title: Re: Shoe Size
Post by: Deborah on October 29, 2016, 09:53:13 AM
My feet have stayed exactly the same size.  However, I didn't have a lot of weight to lose and my feet started out pretty lean from a lot of minimalist style running.  Luckily, they are not so big, 10 1/2 men's, and proportional to the rest of my body.
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Title: Re: Shoe Size
Post by: Anne Blake on October 29, 2016, 11:37:17 AM
Four months into hrt, 12 pounds down in weight. Have always needed a 12 wide in women's shoes but now those are loose and I tend to walk out of them. I was stuck in some size 11 flats for a full day. I know that it was a really stupid move to commit to a new untried pair of shoes with no fall back. That move caused me to lose both big toe nails and I will be paying the price for the year it will take to grow them  back. Lesson, don'the be tempted to try smaller because it sounds neat.  (AND be  sure to carry some back ups with you). - Anne
Title: Re: Shoe Size
Post by: Magicka on October 29, 2016, 07:16:56 PM
Feet can shrink significantly and you can get shorter. Before hrt I was 5 foot 9 1/2 with a shoe size of mens 10 1/2. After hrt I'm standing at 5 foot 7 3/4 and I very comfortably wear size 10 1/2 wide womens shoes.

Here are my feet...

http://imgur.com/a/uNuLT
Title: Re: Shoe Size
Post by: warlockmaker on October 30, 2016, 05:11:25 AM
Remember that men do not have vanity issues with foot size. Infact too smaller a foot reflects feminity. Men always opt for a looser fitting versus tight fit plus men wear socks. Now as females we tend to go for a tighter fit and dont wear socks, if we now wear socks they tend to be finer. This can easily be up to a size smaller.

Second, when wearing high heels the toes and ball of the foot tend to push to the end of a high heel. We have to wear good fit heels or our heels will pop out and walking can be hell, have high heels with straps.

Finallly, add loss of weight and the ligiments in the foot dont stretch as much. this mostly results in a less wide foot, again reducing the shoe size.

So we can end up with a shoe size up to 1 plus size less. This can be more if you have larger feet, a simple math ratio of percentage loss.

My perspective only, but that is what I have noticed with my tg friends
Title: Re: Shoe Size
Post by: sarah1972 on October 30, 2016, 06:57:38 AM
Size also depends on brand. Payless brand shoes are usually a bit larger, Nine West is in the middle and Steve Madden tends to run about 1/2 size small.

Thank god for shoe wideners ;-)
Title: Re: Shoe Size
Post by: Stacitg1 on October 31, 2016, 01:57:37 PM
I don't think HRT would have much affect if any. I have found that I need to go a size larger if I go to pointed heels over a more rounded toe area, but that has nothing to do with HRT. Also different brands can have a slightly different sizing than another brand or model.
Title: Re: Shoe Size
Post by: Rebecca on November 10, 2016, 12:54:49 PM
I love impossible things ♡

I used to be a 10-11 in UK sizes (men & women same numbers) but am now standing in my kitchen comfortably wearing my new size 7 leather knee high boots.

So even if we start with saying snug in a 10 with toes reaching the end. I'm comfy in the 7 with a spare 5mm to squish before the toe.

Can't explain it but I do love it.

Over the past 2 years I have lost a ton on weight and started what would be termed full dose hormones since January. As for what's done what to my feet I've no idea.

Wouldn't mind dropping to a 6 though 7 still sounds biggish to me. 5 would be too small for my height. Don't get me wrong I could squeeze a 6 bit that's not same as being a 6 ;)
Title: Re: Shoe Size
Post by: archlord on November 10, 2016, 01:15:47 PM
i believe its possible to lose 1/2 shoes size with HRT and weight loss.  From my records, ive not only lost foot size but ive also lost height.  Its not due to bone shrinking but to muscle and cartilage (space between bones) getting smaller. 

I am down to 5.7ft( maybe a little shorter then that)  when i used to be 5.8ft and my shoes size is down to woman 9 US
Title: Re: Shoe Size
Post by: GlobalPessimum on November 10, 2016, 01:16:26 PM
Hmmm...

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Q: Can your feet shrink?
A: Quick Answer

The human feet can shrink in size. This decrease is most often seen among individuals experiencing dramatic weight loss, according to Mayo Clinic nutritionist Katherine Zeratsky.

Full Answer

Fat is stored energy and burned off as the body needs it; most commonly during exercise. Since fat is stored throughout the entire body, significant weight loss brings about the same reduction in the feet as those noticeable in the arms, legs, face and neck.

As the feet become smaller in size, foot strength may also decrease. Those that do undergo a shrinkage in foot size are encouraged to incorporate foot exercises to boost the overall health of the feet, cite Healthy Living experts at azcentral.com.

Skeptic's hat on --> {:|
Title: Re: Shoe Size
Post by: Miharu Barbie on November 10, 2016, 02:06:55 PM
Eighteen years of estrogen has never effected the size of my feet.  However, I've lost 50 pounds over the past year (from 190 down to 140 pounds), and as a result of losing weight, my feet have gotten smaller and I'm down almost 1 full shoe size.  Who knew?

Love,
Miharu
Title: Re: Shoe Size
Post by: KayXo on November 10, 2016, 04:57:15 PM
Less water retention can also cause feet to become smaller. But, a loss in cartilage would not be a good sign as estrogen should maintain it and a decrease in sex hormones would lead to cartilage loss, as it happens in older people.

Arthritis Rheum. 2000 Sep;43(9):2081-90.

"Transcriptionally functional ER are present in adult articular cartilage, and ERT increases the production of IGFBP-2 and the synthesis of PGs by chondrocytes from surgically menopausal monkeys. These results indicate that estrogen can have a direct effect on adult articular cartilage."

Joint Bone Spine, Volume 70, Issue 4, August 2003, Pages 257–262

"in vivo in ovariectomized rats, estrogen replacement prevented the cartilage breakdown caused by interleukin-1β [60]."

Menopause: September/October 2004 - Volume 11 - Issue 5 - pp 508-518

Suppression of elevated cartilage turnover in postmenopausal women and in ovariectomized rats by estrogen and a selective estrogen-receptor modulator (SERM)

Title: Re: Shoe Size
Post by: Jean24 on November 10, 2016, 05:54:12 PM
Yes, your feet will shrink slightly.