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I saw this just a little bit ago. I'm really scared about the direction everything is going. And the. There is this...

LGBTQ students have much to fear from Trump's Education pick Betsy DeVos

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As a parent of two kids approaching 30 years old and establishing careers, I see nothing but hardship heading their way. By the.time they reach my age the damage will be done. Who needs death panels when you have Republican Christians that really don't believe life is sacred.

"Winter is coming" Fortunately it may be short if people organize and oppose these people. The potential backlash and pendulum swing from this is dramatic. Keep the faith.

One of my favorite auotes:

"Why is there enough religion in the world to incite violence,
but not enough to instill tolerance?"

Hugs all around!

~Joanne

Here is more.

Religious right see ally in Donald Trump
http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/religious-right-see-ally-donald-trump/#gs.wfii3ZQ

Religious Right Reinvigorated by Donald Trump
http://www.wsj.com/articles/religious-right-reinvigorated-by-donald-trump-1481371206

Everyone in Donald Trump's cabinet so far has one thing in common
http://www.mamamia.com.au/donald-trump-cabinet/

There's good chance you aren't familiar with the men and women who are being slowly elevated to members of Donald Trump's cabinet.

If they're names and faces you've never seen before, then perhaps you should know this: so far, there's nobody within Trump's cabinet who will support the basic human rights of those who identify as part of the LGBTIQ community.


It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not.
André Gide, Autumn Leaves

Be patient. He was rightfully elected and we owe him our support and the opportunity to see what he will do.  We may question some of his appointments but they are all successful people with many accomplishments.  They are not accomplished politicians who owe the success to dissension. His actions so far show hope for some real progress. 


Many people felt the same about Obama when he was elected but they gave him 8 years without demonstrations, rioting, and disrespect.  Many also feel that he failed in many respects.

I have faith in Trump. He is not a politician but a businessman who's views will change. He is addressing so many issues that lobbbiest have influenced politicians. Its time for a new start cos if USA continues its decline your children will have no future.

We will have to give him credit for reducing the influence that  corporate lobbyists have over our lawmakers with big money. 

He has eliminated the need for under the table payments by appointing the corporate lobbyists to lead his cabinet.


It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not.
André Gide, Autumn Leaves

Quote from: mac1 on December 11, 2016, 11:39:41 PM
Many people felt the same about Obama when he was elected but they gave him 8 years without demonstrations, rioting, and disrespect.  Many also feel that he failed in many respects.

Really, I seem to remember one particular person constantly questioning the legitimacy of President Obama.  Can't remember his name though.  Hmmmmm.

Paige :)

Quote from: Alora on November 29, 2016, 03:08:23 PM
I saw this just a little bit ago. I'm really scared about the direction everything is going. And the. There is this...

LGBTQ students have much to fear from Trump's Education pick Betsy DeVos

https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink?url=https%3A%2F%2Fthinkprogress%2Eorg%2Flgbtq-students-have-much-to-fear-from-trumps-education-pick-betsy-devos-7910a97d4922%3Fsource%3Drss----e5293acf313e---4&share_tid=f0d8a54d0921531387572678d5ff101e&share_fid=1082991&share_type=b

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You have every right to be concerned.  Trump has not demonstrated any compassion for LGBTQ people in the election process and there's no evidence to suggest that he'll have a sudden change of heart.  His cabinet picks are just scary if you're a member of the LGBTQ community.

And if he happens to get himself impeached, which I think is very likely with all his conflicts of interests, then puritan Pence will become President.   
   
Paige :)

The Constitution does not say that the President and Congress must give up their other business interests when entering public service.  In the beginning of our country the concept was that we would have citizen legislators and not career politicians.  They would serve for their time and return to private life.  However, during their term of public service they were expected to keep their private business interests separate.

Most of Trump's picks are successful people who are less likely to be influenced by lobbyists or have the need to seek political favors.  Like Trump, they will be forgoing opportunities to serve the government and the people.  They are mot looking forward to becoming wealthy while serving in government or to using their connections to become wealthy after they return to private life as many have done.

If we continue on the current path, the United States will soon become just another 3rd rate country like many of the former dominate great societies and world powers.

Most of Trumps picks are lobbyists or had lobbyists working for them.

Quote from: warlockmaker on December 12, 2016, 04:38:37 AM
I have faith in Trump. He is not a politician but a businessman who's views will change. He is addressing so many issues that lobbbiest have influenced politicians. Its time for a new start cos if USA continues its decline your children will have no future.

The only thing keeping our children from realizing their full potential, are bigotry, prejudice, racism, ignorance, lack of education and the Christian right.

Quote from: DawnOday on December 12, 2016, 11:33:51 AM
Most of Trumps picks are lobbyists or had lobbyists working for them. The only thing keeping our children from realizing their full potential, are bigotry, prejudice, racism, ignorance, lack of education and the Christian right.

If the country continues the current trend toward socialism, extreme government handouts, loss of good manufacturing jobs, increasing national debt, etc. the opportunity for achieving that potential will be lost.

Quote from: mac1 on December 12, 2016, 11:42:03 AM
If the country continues the current trend toward socialism, extreme government handouts, loss of good manufacturing jobs, increasing national debt, etc. the opportunity for achieving that potential will be lost.

I would normally debate every single one of your suggestions but this would probably violate Susan's Terms of Service.

But let's get back to the fact that Trump wants to fill his cabinet with openly anti-LGBTQ people who have a long history of supporting legislation and groups that negatively affect this community.   Aren't you the least bit concerned about this?

Paige :)

Trump reminds of a guy in a bar with his buddies. They see some gay men at the bar. "Look at those fags" says Trumps buddy. Trump looks over and says, yeah....who cares, they're not bothering anyone. I do, says the buddy and I'm gonna kick their ass and throw them out of here! Well, says Trump, I don't really care, but I guess it's your business. No sweat off my back, makes no difference in my world......have at it pal! I'm gonna have another beer.


Trump may have no prejudices or hostile feelings towards us, but his friends have demonstrated that they do indeed find us problematic. Many have used their resources specifically to make our lives more miserable.
     It reminds me of when a famous actor who was invited to Buckingham Palace and the Queen came in and hadn't expected them to be there, she stated to him and his friends faces, "It would be so nice if you weren't here". That looks to be the most civilized response we may see from Trumps Cronies. It will probably devolve from there.  It's going to be a long, cold four years. Hopefully, it won't turn into eight. May be the best we can hope for.

Quote from: mac1 on December 12, 2016, 11:42:03 AM
If the country continues the current trend toward socialism, extreme government handouts, loss of good manufacturing jobs, increasing national debt, etc. the opportunity for achieving that potential will be lost.

The loss of manufacturing jobs is due more to automation etc than moving jobs out of the country.  Either way it's due to capitalism  (they guys with the money doing what they can to make more) .  Isn't unfettered capitalism what you on the right want? 

Why isn't it socialism when the government give huge tax breaks to a company to get them to keep a few jobs around but it is to give assistance to those that lose their jobs because some CEO needs to make another million on his bonus?

It's only socialism when the government gives assistance to poor people.  If they give assistance to corporations or rich people then its capitalism.  (Conservative Logic 101)


It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not.
André Gide, Autumn Leaves

Quote from: TonyaW on December 13, 2016, 08:11:33 AM
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Why isn't it socialism when the government give huge tax breaks to a company to get them to keep a few jobs around but it is to give assistance to those that lose their jobs because some CEO needs to make another million on his bonus?

If too many people are unemployed and receiving permanent government assistance who is going to pay? How long will the others work and strive to get ahead and better themselves if the government only takes away the rewards of their work to give to those who only want to sit back and live on government assistance?

However, social security and medicare to those who work and pay into the plans for most of their working years with a promise of benefits in retirement is not welfare or government assistance.  It is merely a promised return on their investment.

We are not going to agree on economics, I've never met a conservative who's mind has been changed by facts.  Corporate welfare in the form of tax breaks etc cost the country way more than any social safety net program.  Tax cuts for the rich have never benefited the middle class and have never led to more jobs. 


So getting away from economic policy, I don't understand how anyone here can support the Republican party and especially the batch that Trump has nominated due to their positions on LGBT issues.  If the current batch has their way we will all be stuffed back in the closet at best.  Many of them basically deny that  we exist.  We are just a bunch of devil worshipping perverts in their minds.

If there was ever a group that should be one issue voters it would be our community.

Tonya,

That is an unfair re-write of my post. I did not say any of those things that are implied in your post.

Quote from: mac1 on December 13, 2016, 11:09:53 AM
Tonya,

That is an unfair re-write of my post. I did not say any of those things that are implied in your post.

First I'll say I don't come to Susan's to argue politics so I don't really want to continue doing it, though this started as a political thread. I know, I posted but sometimes I can't help it.  I really do try not to get involved in it here (isn't that what Facebook is for?).  My rant on the LGBT stance of Trump's nominees and VP are what lead me to do it this time.

I tried to steer away from economics as that is what I think the original intent of this thread was. 

I will respond to you though because you felt I was unfair.   

I don't believe I  said anything that wasn't pretty basic Republican party rhetoric. I didn't mention that the current batch would like to dismantle Medicare and Social Security, because you did say you are not in favor of that.

By every common measure the economy is far better today than when President Obama took office; unemployment is roughly half of what it was. 

Please then tell me what you said that you feel I misinterpreted. 

I owe him nothing and he is not my President. His cabinet pics notwithstanding, the best advice i can give to all LGTBQi people is to work effectively to counter any negatives brought on by his appointees.

Organize
join other groups and lawfully protest when you have the time and opportunity
Work to politically overturn his party and policies
Enjoy the community of one another and our allies

Oh btw, the Electoral College has yet to speak on the subject - For those of you so inclined, there are many petitions and ways to contact the electors out on Google. The justice department as well as a bipartisan effort over the Russian interference and his connections thereof, may have something to say between now and inauguration.

Its going to be a bumpy time, but from such times come awesome changes. Don't get mad, get justice.

Quote from: RobynD on December 13, 2016, 01:19:51 PM
I owe him nothing and he is not my President. His cabinet pics notwithstanding, the best advice i can give to all LGTBQi people is to work effectively to counter any negatives brought on by his appointees.
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Its going to be a bumpy time, but from such times come awesome changes. Don't get mad, get justice.

Note that Rex Tillerson was President of the Boy Scouts when they approved allowing gay leaders.  Most people have a degree of flexibility on most issues.

Tillerson as Secretary of State is irrelevant to this. 

Sen Sessions is his Attorney General nomination.  He will have the power to enforce laws for or against us.  So, what might we expect?

"First elected to the Senate in 1996, Sessions "has been on the wrong side of every civil rights issue in his long political career," the Human Rights Campaign noted in a press release. He voted to amend the U.S. Constitution to ban same-sex marriage; spoke out against the Supreme Court marriage equality ruling; voted against the Employment Non-Discrimination Act; is a cosponsor of the so-called First Amendment Defense Act, which would allow discrimination against LGBT people and others in the name of "religious freedom"; voted against the Matthew Shepard and James Byrd, Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act, which expanded the federal definition of hate crimes to include those based on sexual orientation, gender, and disability; and voted against repealing "don't ask, don't tell.""  http://www.advocate.com/politics/2016/11/18/ag-pick-jeff-sessions-got-zero-hrcs-scorecard


It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not.
André Gide, Autumn Leaves

Quote from: mac1 on December 11, 2016, 11:39:41 PM
Be patient. He was rightfully elected and we owe him our support and the opportunity to see what he will do.  We may question some of his appointments but they are all successful people with many accomplishments.  They are not accomplished politicians who owe the success to dissension. His actions so far show hope for some real progress. 

Many people felt the same about Obama when he was elected but they gave him 8 years without demonstrations, rioting, and disrespect.  Many also feel that he failed in many respects.

No haha he was not rightfully elected there was massive voter fraud, he even said the election was rigged, and he STILL came up short. Then the electoral college failed too. He gets nothing and I love the way he squirms because he can't control his opponents xD