Community Conversation => Transitioning => Hormone replacement therapy => Topic started by: Melissa_fox on December 01, 2016, 07:08:49 AM Return to Full Version
Title: Little blue pill not working
Post by: Melissa_fox on December 01, 2016, 07:08:49 AM
Post by: Melissa_fox on December 01, 2016, 07:08:49 AM
About 18 months ago I was taking 1 little blue pill a day and could really feel the results especially with tender nipples.
Anyway I stopped for about 12 months and been back on for about 6 months. For some reason I feel nothing like before.
Not sure why?
Anyway I stopped for about 12 months and been back on for about 6 months. For some reason I feel nothing like before.
Not sure why?
Title: Re: Little blue pill not working
Post by: fefi on December 01, 2016, 10:42:44 AM
Post by: fefi on December 01, 2016, 10:42:44 AM
Hi Melissa, as we all know dosages are not allowed in the forum, but can you tell us the name of that little blue pill that you took?
Title: Re: Little blue pill not working
Post by: Melissa_fox on December 01, 2016, 12:49:18 PM
Post by: Melissa_fox on December 01, 2016, 12:49:18 PM
Hi FiFi,
Estradiol
Estradiol
Title: Re: Little blue pill not working
Post by: KarynMcD on December 01, 2016, 02:33:18 PM
Post by: KarynMcD on December 01, 2016, 02:33:18 PM
The "little blue pill" is usually Viagra.
Title: Re: Little blue pill not working
Post by: Dena on December 01, 2016, 09:12:37 PM
Post by: Dena on December 01, 2016, 09:12:37 PM
Sometimes you develop without feeling different and other times there are issues. To know if your treatment is up to medical standards you need to ask a few questions. The main one is what are your total estrogen and estradiol levels in you blood tests. Make sure you get the units. If your levels are sufficiently high, your development should be on track.
Title: Re: Little blue pill not working
Post by: V M on December 01, 2016, 09:45:07 PM
Post by: V M on December 01, 2016, 09:45:07 PM
Hi Melissa
Have you talked to your prescribing physician about this? When I felt that I had plateaued I talked to my endo. and he had some great advise and made some adjustments
Have you talked to your prescribing physician about this? When I felt that I had plateaued I talked to my endo. and he had some great advise and made some adjustments
Title: Re: Little blue pill not working
Post by: Melissa_fox on December 02, 2016, 05:53:54 AM
Post by: Melissa_fox on December 02, 2016, 05:53:54 AM
I no that I shouldn't self-medicate but I don't have a physician. I'm one of the people in the middle where Obamacare made health care unaffordable.
Title: Re: Little blue pill not working
Post by: Dena on December 02, 2016, 07:44:26 AM
Post by: Dena on December 02, 2016, 07:44:26 AM
Some planed parent hood locations will provide HRT support at a reasonable cost and there are endos/doctor who will see you in their office at a more reasonable price. The place where I get my HRT without insurance coverage charged $500 for the first visit and then $100 for the visits after that. Granted, if you are pre surgical, you would need a letter. In addition, you would need to pay the labs as well and without insurance they might be more than I paid. On the other hand, the little blue pill at a transition dosage would cost you about $40 for a 6 month supply. As I don't use a blocker, I am not sure what that would cost.
I also faced a problem with Obama Care because my deductible was $3500 and there was no way I came anywhere near that much medical care in a year so the policy never kicked in. In the mean time, the insurance company collected over $8000 a years without ever paying a cent for my care.
I also faced a problem with Obama Care because my deductible was $3500 and there was no way I came anywhere near that much medical care in a year so the policy never kicked in. In the mean time, the insurance company collected over $8000 a years without ever paying a cent for my care.
Title: Re: Little blue pill not working
Post by: Anastasija on December 02, 2016, 09:42:09 AM
Post by: Anastasija on December 02, 2016, 09:42:09 AM
sorry but if we talk about blue pills it can be: progynova or estrofen -17, or viagra :D
Another issue is that you're talking about the growth of breast and nipples, in principle, which occurs in the first 12 months, although everybody may be different. Later nipples no longer grow, but breasts take shape.
Another issue is that you're talking about the growth of breast and nipples, in principle, which occurs in the first 12 months, although everybody may be different. Later nipples no longer grow, but breasts take shape.
Title: Re: Little blue pill not working
Post by: KayXo on December 02, 2016, 11:36:43 AM
Post by: KayXo on December 02, 2016, 11:36:43 AM
Quote from: Dena on December 01, 2016, 09:12:37 PM
Sometimes you develop without feeling different and other times there are issues. To know if your treatment is up to medical standards you need to ask a few questions. The main one is what are your total estrogen and estradiol levels in you blood tests. Make sure you get the units. If your levels are sufficiently high, your development should be on track.
The right (sufficiently high) level would seem to vary from one individual to another, and even from one point in time to another in an individual's lifetime. Not all ciswomen have the same levels, not all ciswomen have the same degree of development and sensitivity. Levels fluctuate a lot during a woman's reproductive years, from 20 pg/ml to up to 75,000 pg/ml.
Levels also fluctuate in time so that measured at 9 am, 1 pm and 9 pm, they may differ significantly.
Please go see a doctor. :)
Title: Re: Little blue pill not working
Post by: AshleyP on December 02, 2016, 12:42:08 PM
Post by: AshleyP on December 02, 2016, 12:42:08 PM
Quote from: Dena on December 02, 2016, 07:44:26 AM
On the other hand, the little blue pill at a transition dosage would cost you about $40 for a 6 month supply. As I don't use a blocker, I am not sure what that would cost.
fyi, E2 tablets are on Walmart's $4/month or $10/90 day lists. Spiro is not and is much, much higher.
Quote from: Dena on December 02, 2016, 07:44:26 AM
I also faced a problem with Obama Care because my deductible was $3500 and there was no way I came anywhere near that much medical care in a year so the policy never kicked in. In the mean time, the insurance company collected over $8000 a years without ever paying a cent for my care.
Not to get into a political discussion, ObamaCare also did away with the catastrophic policy that I had. Every time I think of that, I remember, "If you like your plan...." sheesh.
All the best,
--AshleyP
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Title: Re: Little blue pill not working
Post by: Dena on December 02, 2016, 03:28:42 PM
Post by: Dena on December 02, 2016, 03:28:42 PM
Quote from: AshleyP on December 02, 2016, 12:42:08 PMOne of the advantages/disadvantages to being a moderator is you remove a bunch of dosages from everybody's posts. I have received very good education about the treatment that others receive. My costs compare with what you posted however I am not on a full transition dosage. Some documentation calls for twice what I receive and I have seen people receive 4 times what I receive. I calculated what I believe to be the costs of a normal transition dosage for E2. Dosage is dependent on what the tests indicate and as of the last test, I will not be permitted to go any higher unless the numbers for total estrogen change.
fyi, E2 tablets are on Walmart's $4/month or $10/90 day lists. Spiro is not and is much, much higher.
Title: Re: Little blue pill not working
Post by: AshleyP on December 02, 2016, 04:48:05 PM
Post by: AshleyP on December 02, 2016, 04:48:05 PM
Quote from: Dena on December 02, 2016, 03:28:42 PM
One of the advantages/disadvantages to being a moderator is you remove a bunch of dosages from everybody's posts. I have received very good education about the treatment that others receive. My costs compare with what you posted however I am not on a full transition dosage. Some documentation calls for twice what I receive and I have seen people receive 4 times what I receive. I calculated what I believe to be the costs of a normal transition dosage for E2. Dosage is dependent on what the tests indicate and as of the last test, I will not be permitted to go any higher unless the numbers for total estrogen change.
I didn't mean to imply that Walmart's price would be $4/$10 no matter what the dosage. Maybe I should clarify. Their prices are for 30 or 90 E2 pills. If you're prescribed more than one pill/day, you would multiply that price by the number of pills. In other words, if you took two pills/day, the cost would be $8/$20, etc. Hopefully, my earlier comment didn't mislead anyone.
All the best,
--AshleyP
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