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hi all <33

I know that this has been covered a while back, but i felt that an old thread shouldnt be reopend and just start with a new one..

the issue is that.. im not a muscular person.. in fact, far from it... im super lean... but my shoulders leave a lot to be desired... they are very square looking.. and due to my low fat percentage everything just sticks our.. deltoids, veins...
i understand that fashion can work miracles and hide this, but im just curious how much the hormones will do...

cheers
Aurora

Hormones will not change your bone structure but they will add a layer of fat to tone down the sharp edges, as long as you eat enough.

My veins in my arms used to be prominent so when I had blood taken they were visible for the nurse to stick.  Now they are hard to locate.  So HRT will normally smooth things out.


It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not.
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Hormones can make a difference but everyone is different and your mileage may vary. I was pretty angular but am much less so than before.

Ditto to the above. HRT will soften features and can help.

Before HRT, I was very muscular when I was younger. Then I started to gain weight in my 50's. In my early 60's I took control of my life and lost weight and at age 65 I started HRT. Then my muscle mass really went down.

How much muscle you lose all depends on how much you have in the first place. I did notice the most of my muscle loss is in the upper chest and arms. My legs and glutes did not lose much muscle at all.

If what you really are looking for is a softer appearance, then allow the hormones to do their thing and don't forget to add a little fat to your diet. I suggest olive oil or coconut oil as a good fat and avoid animal fats at all costs.

Quote from: Dani on December 24, 2016, 09:41:14 PM
avoid animal fats at all costs.

Journal of atherosclerosis research 1964;4:289-312.

"A field survey of 400 Masai men and additional women and children in Tanganyika indicates little or no clinical or chemical evidence for atherosclerosis. Despite a long continued diet of exclusively meat and milk the men have low levels of serum cholesterol and no evidence for arteriosclerotic heart disease. The reasons for this disagreement with the popular hypothesis relating animal fat intake to coronary disease are examined. The authors concede that some overriding protective mechanism such as freedom from emotional stress or abundance of physical exercise may be present. They favor the conclusion that diet fat is not responsible for coronary disease."

Food Nutr Res. 2016 Sep 27;60:31694.

"The most significant dietary correlate of low CVD risk was high total fat and animal protein consumption."

"Our results do not support the association between CVDs and saturated fat, which is still contained in official dietary guidelines. Instead, they agree with data accumulated from recent studies that link CVD risk with the high glycaemic index/load of carbohydrate-based diets. In the absence of any scientific evidence connecting saturated fat with CVDs, these findings show that current dietary recommendations regarding CVDs should be seriously reconsidered."

Eur J Nutr. 2013 Feb;52(1):1-24.

"The observational evidence does not support the hypothesis that dairy fat or high-fat dairy foods contribute to obesity or cardiometabolic risk, and suggests that high-fat dairy consumption within typical dietary patterns is inversely associated with obesity risk."

BMJ. 2003 Oct 4;327(7418):777-82.

"During the 14 year follow up 725 cases of stroke occurred, including 455 ischaemic strokes, 125 haemorrhagic stokes, and 145 strokes of unknown type. After adjustment for age, smoking, and other potential confounders, no evidence was found that the amount or type of dietary fat affects the risk of developing ischaemic or haemorrhagic stroke. Comparing the highest fifth of intake with the lowest fifth, the multivariate relative risk of ischaemic stroke was 0.91 (95% confidence interval 0.65 to 1.28; P for trend = 0.77) for total fat, 1.20 (0.84 to 1.70; P = 0.47) for animal fat, 1.07 (0.77 to 1.47; P = 0.66) for vegetable fat, 1.16 (0.81 to 1.65; P = 0.59) for saturated fat, 0.91 (0.65 to 1.28; P = 0.83) for monounsaturated fat, 0.88 (0.64 to 1.21; P = 0.25) for polyunsaturated fat, 0.87 (0.62 to 1.22; P = 0.42) for trans unsaturated fat, and 1.02 (0.75 to 1.39; P = 0.99) for dietary cholesterol. Intakes of red meats, high fat dairy products, nuts, and eggs were also not appreciably related to risk of stroke."

"These findings do not support associations between intake of total fat, cholesterol, or specific types of fat and risk of stroke in men."

Eur J Nutr. 2016 Aug 12.

"Cheese contains a high content of saturated fatty acids but also lists of potentially beneficial nutrients. How long-term cheese consumption affects the development of cardiovascular disease (CVD) is unclear. A meta-analysis of prospective observational studies was conducted to evaluate the risks of total CVD, coronary heart disease (CHD), and stroke associated with cheese consumption."

"This meta-analysis of prospective studies suggests a nonlinear inverse association between cheese consumption and risk of CVD."

Adv Nutr. 2013 May 1;4(3):294-302.

"Several recent analyses indicate that SFAs, particularly in dairy products and coconut oil, can improve health."

KayXo,

The journal articles you quoted are very good information.

My decision to limit animal sources for food is based on a more sustainable and humane diet.

I am not a member of PETA (People Eating Tasty Animals)!

Besides, many farm animals have such lovely eyes! I just can't eat them all. It is an emotional thing.

Gotcha! :)

I've lost considerable muscle and have had some very noticeable changes to my body shape. Smaller waist, bigger butt because fat redistribution and that layer of softness one gets from that fat that Deborah mentions. My larger breast size adds to the overall look of my shape. My spouse recently described my changes as "hourglass"

I was pretty athletic and broad shouldered prior to HRT. It doesn't work absolute miracles but for some it definitely makes a much more feminine figure, and everyone has some effects to look forward to.