Community Conversation => Transsexual talk => Post operative life => Topic started by: TreeFlower on November 07, 2007, 09:07:58 AM Return to Full Version
Title: Was it oversight or prejudice
Post by: TreeFlower on November 07, 2007, 09:07:58 AM
Post by: TreeFlower on November 07, 2007, 09:07:58 AM
A couple of months ago I mailed in my drivers license name and gender change form to the Pennsylvania DMV. I included the court order for the name change and the letter from my GRS dr. They changed my name but not my gender. I wonder if it was oversight or prejudice. *sigh* Looks like I'll have to do this in person.
I went to the DMV last Saturday. It was super crowded and took me almost two hours. I expected grumpy employees who were ready to give me a hard time. The wait was annoying but they were super nice and I had absolutely no problems. Once I was waited on it took about two minutes to change the gender designation. Then I had to go to the photo section. That took about 5 minutes. Most of the wait there was for the picture to develop.
Acceptance by the mainstream has been my experience. But, I wonder how much of that is because I'm face to face with the person. I wonder if my gender change on the drivers license form was overlooked or if someone thought "I don't think so" and pretended to miss it. If I wasn't able to pass would I have experienced a problem?
I'm going to go hug my license again now :p
I went to the DMV last Saturday. It was super crowded and took me almost two hours. I expected grumpy employees who were ready to give me a hard time. The wait was annoying but they were super nice and I had absolutely no problems. Once I was waited on it took about two minutes to change the gender designation. Then I had to go to the photo section. That took about 5 minutes. Most of the wait there was for the picture to develop.
Acceptance by the mainstream has been my experience. But, I wonder how much of that is because I'm face to face with the person. I wonder if my gender change on the drivers license form was overlooked or if someone thought "I don't think so" and pretended to miss it. If I wasn't able to pass would I have experienced a problem?
I'm going to go hug my license again now :p
Title: Re: Was it oversight or prejudice
Post by: Berliegh on November 07, 2007, 11:14:55 AM
Post by: Berliegh on November 07, 2007, 11:14:55 AM
Quote from: TreeFlower on November 07, 2007, 09:07:58 AM
A couple of months ago I mailed in my drivers license name and gender change form to the Pennsylvania DMV. I included the court order for the name change and the letter from my GRS dr. They changed my name but not my gender. I wonder if it was oversight or prejudice. *sigh* Looks like I'll have to do this in person.
I went to the DMV last Saturday. It was super crowded and took me almost two hours. I expected grumpy employees who were ready to give me a hard time. The wait was annoying but they were super nice and I had absolutely no problems. Once I was waited on it took about two minutes to change the gender designation. Then I had to go to the photo section. That took about 5 minutes. Most of the wait there was for the picture to develop.
Acceptance by the mainstream has been my experience. But, I wonder how much of that is because I'm face to face with the person. I wonder if my gender change on the drivers license form was overlooked or if someone thought "I don't think so" and pretended to miss it. If I wasn't able to pass would I have experienced a problem?
I'm going to go hug my license again now :p
No, I think it's paranoia........
Title: Re: Was it oversight or prejudice
Post by: Stormy on November 07, 2007, 02:12:08 PM
Post by: Stormy on November 07, 2007, 02:12:08 PM
It's entirely possible that the person handling your license issue simply didn't know or think to change the marker. Ignorance is
much more common than prejudice.
Stormy
much more common than prejudice.
Stormy
Title: Re: Was it oversight or prejudice
Post by: SocalledLife on November 07, 2007, 02:32:57 PM
Post by: SocalledLife on November 07, 2007, 02:32:57 PM
They still use real photos (as opposed to digital) on the drivers lisence in PA?
Plus 1 on the oversight, it took the DMV here three times to get my DL right after moving, I ended up going to do it in person and was then hastled about not being the person pictured on the computer. In the end, they wern't rude about it, just a little bit dense.
DANA
Plus 1 on the oversight, it took the DMV here three times to get my DL right after moving, I ended up going to do it in person and was then hastled about not being the person pictured on the computer. In the end, they wern't rude about it, just a little bit dense.
DANA
Title: Re: Was it oversight or prejudice
Post by: Hazumu on November 07, 2007, 07:55:46 PM
Post by: Hazumu on November 07, 2007, 07:55:46 PM
Quote from: Stormy on November 07, 2007, 02:12:08 PM
It's entirely possible that the person handling your license issue simply didn't know or think to change the marker. Ignorance is
much more common than prejudice.
Stormy
That reminds me of a quote:
"Never attribute to malice what can be explained by stupidity."
Karen
Title: Re: Was it oversight or prejudice
Post by: Pica Pica on November 07, 2007, 08:09:40 PM
Post by: Pica Pica on November 07, 2007, 08:09:40 PM
"And don't apply to stupidity what can be attributed to not giving a damn one way or another."