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Title: Passing in bed without surgery
Post by: PrincessCrystal on January 09, 2017, 08:44:18 AM
So... Long story short, I ended up in bed with one of my straight friends the ither night, and he was all over me: apparently he hasn't been with a girl in a while and I'm really pretty, so he was willing to ignore anatomical issues.  So there I was, trying to keep my erection from poking things and ruining the moment as this guy is rubbing himself against me, groping my breasts, and kissing my neck.  I'm pretty well hairless, I have a feminine figure, and my skin is very soft, and I think I might have Klinefelter's, so I pass pretty well in a cuddle.  What I didn't like though is that my penis was kind of reminding me and him of the issues here, and it's limiting what sort of positions I can get into with him.  I tried keeping it tucked and I tried keeping myself turned around, but I really wanted to just straddle him and curl up against him, without my annoying poker getting in the way.  I'm not sure how much it bothered him, but it really bothered me that I couldn't just be a normal girl in that situation...

Have any other Transgirls had this issue?  (I mean, obviously you have)  Does anyone have any good ideas for keeping it from poking things in bed?  Maybe some ways I could make it feel less obtrusive and masculine?
Title: Re: Passing in bed without surgery
Post by: Sophia Sage on January 09, 2017, 09:36:59 AM
Well, this is what SRS is really for...

But before then, maybe some heavy-duty tucking tape?
Title: Re: Passing in bed without surgery
Post by: stephaniec on January 09, 2017, 10:02:49 AM
if he knows I'm sure you can come to some kind of compromise , just be honest about both your needs, especially if he's already friends with you. I had a beautiful time with an old friend of mine.
Title: Re: Passing in bed without surgery
Post by: Jin on January 09, 2017, 10:29:05 AM
It would have been hard (no pun intended) for him not to have noticed. And it sounds like he doesn't mind. Been there myself. You are just a girl with bonus parts, relax and enjoy it!
Title: Re: Passing in bed without surgery
Post by: PrincessCrystal on January 09, 2017, 03:35:31 PM
I guess I wasn't clear about it... This isn't about acceptance, as I and everyone I do hints with has moved past the acceptance phase.  This is about comfort in bed.  I have a set of genitals which are means for a role I'm completely uninterested in fulfilling at this point, and are getting in the way of the one I'd prefer to, and I'd like advice on how I can feel better about them in the moment.

Does anyone have any actual advice on what they do to help their male anatomy feel more female?  I cannot get surgery any time soon, so that's not really an option.  I want help making this work better for me right now...
Title: Re: Passing in bed without surgery
Post by: Angélique LaCava on January 09, 2017, 03:40:26 PM
I've had that  happen that way with guys I've worked with and they had no idea I was trans till I told them. They also said they never seen a trans as pretty as me, but luckily for me In bed I don't get erections anymore so yay me.

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Title: Re: Passing in bed without surgery
Post by: Ms Grace on January 09, 2017, 03:43:54 PM
Trying to tuck an erection is only going to cause you serious injuries. Erections are going to happen when you get aroused, it's just the way the body works, even when you have low T. The only way to keep an erection down is to not get aroused, a bit difficult if you are in the throes of passion.
Title: Re: Passing in bed without surgery
Post by: Mariah on January 09, 2017, 03:46:54 PM
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Title: Re: Passing in bed without surgery
Post by: Mariah on January 09, 2017, 03:51:44 PM
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Title: Re: Passing in bed without surgery
Post by: Lady Sarah on January 09, 2017, 09:37:33 PM
Honestly, I think all you could do is stick the erection between your thighs. I used to do that before erectile dysfunction took effect. Perhaps the lack of testes assisted in that ED as I got older. Like the OP, I was not interested in using it either.
Title: Re: Passing in bed without surgery
Post by: cheryl reeves on January 10, 2017, 01:32:59 AM
Try panty hose they tend to keep things tucked with a hole cut in the rear for penetration.
Title: Re: Passing in bed without surgery
Post by: herekitten on January 10, 2017, 10:28:53 AM
There are artificial vajayjay's which allow you to disguise your member/erection and allow penetration yet providing stimulation to you. I don't know if I could wear such a device because I do believe I would begin giggling leading to laughing whilst attaching it, thus killing the mood.

Your dilemma is not that uncommon. Eons ago when I was in my teen years, we would party across the border at a notorious nightclub (NoNo's). The girls there were for hire, but around 98% of their clients were unaware. The girls had devised an unusual methodology using their hand and hole through their foam paddings allowing their clients to penetrate them missionary without the client knowing.

I would hate for you to have to go to such lengths. A very sexy lacy pair of stretchy crotchless pantines turned backside to front or maybe t-blockers would suppress the unwanted effect and yet keep your desire as others have mentioned. That seems like the best bet if surgery is not in the near future. Just a thought.
Title: Re: Passing in bed without surgery
Post by: Moomin on January 10, 2017, 02:06:14 PM
Hi Crystal! Sounds really rough sweetie, so I though I'd give my 2 pence :) I was just wondering what blockers your on / strength? (don't post) I have kleinefelter's too and after I started taking blockers, I no longer get any erections, even during sex :D Maybe mention to your GIC that your still having erections, and see if they will increase the dosage. Hope this helps! Xx
Title: Re: Passing in bed without surgery
Post by: PrincessCrystal on January 10, 2017, 03:13:15 PM
Quote from: Moomin on January 10, 2017, 02:06:14 PMafter I started taking blockers, I no longer get any erections, even during sex :D
I'm still trying to start: trying to get a therapist to talk to me about it has been slow going...

Quote from: cheryl reeves on January 10, 2017, 01:32:59 AMTry panty hose they tend to keep things tucked with a hole cut in the rear for penetration.
Quote from: herekitten on January 10, 2017, 10:28:53 AM
There are artificial vajayjay's which allow you to disguise your member/erection and allow penetration yet providing stimulation to you.
QuoteA very sexy lacy pair of stretchy crotchless pantines turned backside to front
I have been thinking of this.


One of the things I've been doing, which no one here has suggested, is removing the hair from most parts of my crotch and keeping everything down there well moisturized, so it's soft and damp and all that.  That's helped a little, as it somehow minimizes the masculinity of the look and feel, but I'm wondering if there's more that can be done with that.  Part of the problem is that, despite the feminine figure I have, and that I don't have large testicles, I also have an above-average sized penis.  I don't mind that per say, but it's a bit hard to keep from poking people, and it's bigger than 2 of the 3 guys I'm dating... :<
Title: Re: Passing in bed without surgery
Post by: MjaGi on January 10, 2017, 07:08:01 PM
Sadly I cant give you any advice on how you could yourself feel more comfortable and more female, still having this thing down there. But what would help is ... your guy.
Did he mention that he has any problems with your thing? Me being pre-op, what helped me overcoming this 'thing down there issue' is that he wouldnt bother, he would love me and cuddle, etc.-me the way I am. with this thing or without, and this is what your guy could do too, to make you feel appreciated and female as you are female!
Title: Re: Passing in bed without surgery
Post by: PrincessCrystal on January 12, 2017, 01:36:41 AM
We've cuddled with it getting in the way just fine, but it bugs me that that's just what it does: gets in the way.  What I'm asking is if anyone has a better way to make it not feel as obtrusively masculine...
Title: Re: Passing in bed without surgery
Post by: ScarletRed on January 13, 2017, 06:17:21 AM
This won't help in the heat of the moment if you're still getting erections but might help when you're not aroused. My method of tucking involves tight boy shorts and pantyhose over that. After pulling things back I pull the boy shorts and pantyhose up at the same time to give me a smooth front. I then put my hand down the back and push the head into the shaft. You will have to do this for a while before you're body gets used to it but once it does it gets easier.Sorry for the crude descriptors but there's no polite way to describe it. If you can avoid getting aroused while tucking in this manner it should work but if you do get aroused it will be uncomfortable. I can usually cuddle and spoon using this method but I'm on HRT. Best of luck ScarletRed


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Title: Re: Passing in bed without surgery
Post by: herekitten on January 14, 2017, 08:47:18 AM
Quote from: PrincessCrystal on January 12, 2017, 01:36:41 AM
We've cuddled with it getting in the way just fine, but it bugs me that that's just what it does: gets in the way.  What I'm asking is if anyone has a better way to make it not feel as obtrusively masculine...
It sounds like you are going to have to do alot of mental changing of the mind sort of thing. Lots of great ideas have been presented. Add your fav perfume to the mix. Don't concentrate on it too much, and just 'let go'. I know it can be an issue to deal with, but it is what it is and she's there for now; and remember -- her size is a blessing in disguise come time for your surgery.
Title: Re: Passing in bed without surgery
Post by: MissGendered on January 14, 2017, 11:08:52 AM
Princess,

When I read the title of your post, I thought you meant you needed advice about how to be in bed with a man while pre-op without him suspecting anything. That is a topic I know something about, as I did have a lot of bed time with men before my anatomy was corrected. It was difficult, and tricky, and dangerous, but I managed to get away with it numerous times.

But after reading your post, I see you are asking something else entirely, and to be fair to those that have attempted to answer your real question with real answers, the truth is, there may be no real answer to your dilemma, I am sorry to say. Almost by definition, a penile erection is going to be perceived as masculine and be intrusive to a female minded person like yourself, AND a straight male. It is an amazing feat already to have one straight guy willing to overlook the obvious, let alone 3 guys in your dating pool. You are already more than usually fortunate in that regard, in both my experience, and opinion.

The unfortunate truth is that relief from this problem will likely only come from the usual pathways, namely T blockers, estrogen, and GCS. No amount of tucking, or taping, or pubic hair removal, or clothing options, or any other superficial 'fix' will do. Not for a dysphoric woman, that's why the treatment protocols are what they are, namely, T blockers, HRT, and GCS. Anything short of those, well, falls short of being a true remedy for your issue. Your issue was my issue, as it is still a lot of girls' issue on a site like this. I wish there were an easier 'fix' than that, but as you may have noticed, nobody can come up with one, not one that works, and works reliably. I am sorry you are experiencing your distress, but I envy your situation as far as finding willing straight males while openly pre-op. In my life, such men did not exist. In that regard, you are very fortunate!

So, no, I have no answer for you, and I am doubtful there exists an answer that will satisfy your needs other than those provided by the Standards of Care.

Good luck with your therapeutic journey going forward!

MissyG
Title: Re: Passing in bed without surgery
Post by: DawnOday on January 14, 2017, 12:56:18 PM
Sex toys. Get their primitive mind on something else. Another idea is to try tantric sex where touch is the stimulus as opposed to the act. It can be mind blowing. After you give him the sexual experience of his life, it won't matter what you have.
Title: Re: Passing in bed without surgery
Post by: Aurorasky on January 14, 2017, 03:15:02 PM
Hey girl

First of all, I know how hard it is when you want intimacy but are still pre-op. It is also the reason why I am not really dating actively because it will at some point come down to this. It is just awkward for intimacy when you want to be with someone but that just gets in the way

However it also seems to me this man is willing to overlook that and be with you, so I would just let myself go and wear some tights which can prevent things from getting too awkward. He obviously wanted to be with you bad. If you are unable to relax with this issue, then my advice is wait for the operation to be completely free inof your mind if that is what is necessary. Or change your mindset, enjoy it while you can and try not to think too much. Stress raises T levels so when the body is tense, erections are more likely to happen. I can't talk about that since I have been on t blockers and that thing doesn't happen really. But I understand how being pre op can be a problem.

Hope it's helpful