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An interesting poll I've always wanted to try! I apologize if it triggers anyone, it was not my intention. I came across this question when I was taking the "Are you a Transgender" test online.

Not a chance. Thats would mean living each day in manhood. No thank you!

Would need to know a LOT more about the pill. ie: how does it do what it does?

Being the science-y type, I'd need to know how the pill works, but I probably wouldn't take it. My dysphoria is pretty manageable most of the time.

If the pill erases the trans then no, I wouldn't take it.  That would be akin to suicide, erasing who I fundamentally am.  The body would live on, inhabited by a different person.


It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not.
André Gide, Autumn Leaves

I answered yes only because one pill would be much less anguish and effort than transition. I feel much more comfortable after transition, but the costs are overwhelming at times. When I say costs, I mean all costs, financial, emotional, social and physical.

Can I change my answer? I didn't actually read the question before hitting yes... I just assumed it was would you take a pill to switch body types to preferred gender. Lol. :(

No. I've already begun to change physically. No going back. Would not particularly want to have the dude characteristics I now do while also keeping the female ones if I took your pill right now, lol.

I know what you mean. Maybe before I might have but it's too late to "be content" now even if I wanted to. My frame of mind has changed and I just want to get on with the process.

i've thought about this a lot, even so it's not possible.  honestly, i think the biggest reason i'd say "no" is because of all the self-righteous "i told you so"s i'd get from people who were convinced it was just a phase.  i wouldn't want to give them the satisfaction.  gotta cling to what few shreds of dignity i have, even if it's to my detriment...
i don't want to be transgender.  i don't want to live the rest of my life knowing that i'll never be a normal man, or be able to function like one 100%.  i don't want to be unable to have my own children.  i don't want to have to "come out" to every future partner even long after i pass in every other aspect.  i don't want to have to deal with others' disgust, hatred, patronizing, and confusion for the rest of my life.  but that's the path onto which i was thrown, whether i like it or not. 
if i could change something so that i never had to deal with any of this in the first place and have not been born transgender at all, that would be a much more tempting offer--though even then, if i hadn't gone through what i have, i don't know what kind of person i would be now.  maybe a much worse one, considering the environment in which i was raised.  maybe a much more judgmental, ignorant person like the family that still refuses to accept or acknowledge me today.  maybe i'd have grown out of that on my own, but i still wouldn't have the experience.  and experience is something i value, even when it's negative, because it always has something to teach and it shapes who we are. 
i find it really hard to imagine being comfortable in this body.  i tried for so many years, but the harder i tried, the less comfortable i actually was.  so being able to change that, to remove that discomfort, definitely has its appeal.  i could go on and live a normal life.  i wouldn't have to explain my body to anyone or warn them about it as if i had some disease.  i wouldn't have to worry about which bathroom i'm supposed to be in or whether or not people knew what gender i was.  i wouldn't even have to think about it. 
...but it would also mean that everything i had gone through up to this point was for nothing, and i don't think i could live with that.  all the stress, fear, depression, and arguments; one person after another trying to beat into my head that i was wrong and didn't know what i was talking about, and how hard i had to work to keep my chin up and get through those conversations, not backing down about being sure of who and what i was regardless of what they wanted me to be.  i think it really would kill me to just flip a switch and say "ok, you were right; i'm actually a girl after all." 

that said, i do wish such a thing existed for those who wanted it.  imagine noticing those feelings, being able to get a treatment that worked, and saving oneself from years of risk and hardship.  in a world where this kind of thing is finally recognized as a condition that should be respected and treated like any other, and not just some childish attempt to be different, a pill like that would be a dream come true for a lot of people. 

Quote from: meatwagon on February 24, 2017, 09:37:45 AM
i've thought about this a lot, even so it's not possible.  honestly, i think the biggest reason i'd say "no" is because of all the self-righteous "i told you so"s i'd get from people who were convinced it was just a phase.  i wouldn't want to give them the satisfaction.  gotta cling to what few shreds of dignity i have,

Omg bro this is so me in many regards. I have family like this. I know that my cousin named Mike would be so thrilled if i was defeated and went back into manhood. I have talked to him about this issue and all the feelings i have had even since childhood and the confusion and everything else. He doesnt  beleive i went through any of that saying if i was truely trans that there would have been ''signs''. He would point out all the things that apperently dont make me trans or not trans enough and when i point out all the great things estrogen has done to me like given me better mental clarity and even nice changes to the body his only reply was ''Well i still see some facial hair (was sick that day so rub alot of it under my nose off via tissue) and your voice is still pretty low''. Like i said, to him i am just some dude so in many ways i gotta thank him, it is people like him who push me to find my woman side even more. I refuse to give the negative doubters what they want, a miserable man instead of doing myself as a happy woman!

Actually many transgender people do take a pill to eliminate or reduce their gender dysphoria.

Living in our current sex??  It says "F" on my drivers license and that has been the real truth before I jumped through the hoops to own it. :D

Quote from: Tessa James on February 24, 2017, 10:53:20 AM
Actually many transgender people do take a pill to eliminate or reduce their gender dysphoria.

Tessa,
    That was the thought that first came into my head upon reading this question.

  Hugs,
    Jeanette

Quote from: Kylo on February 24, 2017, 09:29:42 AM
No. I've already begun to change physically. No going back. Would not particularly want to have the dude characteristics I now do while also keeping the female ones if I took your pill right now, lol.

I know what you mean. Maybe before I might have but it's too late to "be content" now even if I wanted to. My frame of mind has changed and I just want to get on with the process.

Kylo and I are on the same page - once I came out to the first person it was fait accompli for me.  I'm too far along to stop now. 

If you had given me the pill 18 months ago - YES.

I don't particularly enjoy being a man, though the privilege is very comfortable. I would trade a transman bodies so that the physical transition didn't take so long, though.

Welllll...  My current sex is Female, and I do take a pill to feel comfortable in my sex. And some patches...

I worked long and hard to earn my gender marker, thankyewverymuch.  I am female, and my drivers license and birth certificate finally agree with that.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1249.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fhh504%2FMichelle_Paquet%2FDrivers%2520License%2520redacted_zpsxbenarsn.jpg&hash=301563c911478945dd670d11515b2b2bddf94eeb)

Would I take a pill to have remained with my assigned gender at birth that would somehow make me happy?  Oh, heck no!  That would have to be the equivalent of a prefrontal lobotomy, destroying everything that had led to my taking that pill, wiping the me that is now from existence.  I'll pass.

I was miserable for decades, but the last few months of my life have been the happiest that I can remember since I was a child.  I am finally at peace with myself.   That counts for far more than some medical magic that would replace e with a happy artifice.

Quote from: Deborah on February 24, 2017, 09:08:50 AM
If the pill erases the trans then no, I wouldn't take it.  That would be akin to suicide, erasing who I fundamentally am.  The body would live on, inhabited by a different person.


It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not.
André Gide, Autumn Leaves

what she said.

Pretty much in agreement with everyone here. My identity may be hard at times, but it is mine and without it life would not be better, or at least it is hard to imagine it would. I don't envy the other gender and the stuff they face either.

Nope,never for it would kill me.

Quote from: CrystalMatthews0426 on February 24, 2017, 09:23:49 AM
Can I change my answer? I didn't actually read the question before hitting yes... I just assumed it was would you take a pill to switch body types to preferred gender. Lol. :(

Oh wow, I assumed just the opposite, that the pill would make the mind to match the body.
If it would make the body match the mind then absolutely I would take it. Oh wait, I did take it, and it worked (along with a little surgery)!

just need that mind swopping machine from Star Trek, you know the one where Kirk gets swopped into a woman, allways wondered why he never disappeared into the loo for a quick look/grope  ;D

Would I take a pill that makes my mind match my body? Without hesitation! ABSOLUTELY! Would I take a pill to make my body match my mind? Yes, provided it doesn't hurt anybody. I would take anything to stop the war inside my head. I wish I could just be a normal guy without the mental torment.

No, i'm not ashamed of being transgender and think diversity in society is a good thing. I have a right to exist just the way I am thank you very much.

Speaking as someone who's just starting along the path of transition, I'm going to have to say no. Being forced to live the rest of my life as a male is my definition of hell, and this pill seems akin to brainwashing - whoever it was that was living on as a man in my body wouldn't be "me". I'm excited for this path I'm on, and I wouldn't want anything else.

Hey everyone! I reworded the question and reseted the poll because a few people need to knowmore  about the pill. If you have voted already, please lock in your votes again!
Thank you!
Love

Ashley

Quote from: Jessie007 on February 24, 2017, 02:05:38 PM
Would I take a pill that makes my mind match my body? Without hesitation! ABSOLUTELY! Would I take a pill to make my body match my mind? Yes, provided it doesn't hurt anybody. I would take anything to stop the war inside my head. I wish I could just be a normal guy without the mental torment.

yup........
I don't need any of this. none of it. I seek peace.

I wouldn't, same reasons as some other people... I couldn't do something that changes how my head's wired so drastically, it would be taking away a big part of me, and I just wouldn't be myself anymore. q: What I really need is to get away from this place and get HRT and stuff but I'm too young yet, so for now I have to deal with my friends who are constantly talking about politics. I hate politics, it's so boring to me.

Quote from: AshleyUSMC on February 24, 2017, 04:52:28 PM
Hey everyone! I reworded the question and reseted the poll because a few people need to knowmore  about the pill. If you have voted already, please lock in your votes again!
Thank you!
Love

Ashley

My fellow Ashley! the answer from me remains the same! nope, no more manhood!

Answer still the same for me. Without hesitation, YES! I want nothing more than to be a normal guy. I don't consider myself a person now, so changing my brain takes nothing away from me other than the constant torture.

It sounds a little to much like the twilight zone Number 12 Looks Just Like You. My brain is the thing I value the most and I don't want anybody tapering with it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZnr0I0BQww

No. It's too late for the blue pill. I am out to friends, family and coworkers. I have changed all my IDs, credit cards, bank accounts, etc. I am legally female, and live full-time as a woman. It is a dream come true. My only regret is becoming estranged from my kids.  The blue pill won't fix that.  The damage is done. For better or worse, I can only go forward.  There is no place else to go.

~Terri

You all are so awesome for taking the time to answer my silly poll! <3 As i had said before, i apologize deeply if it triggered you, as it was not my intention! Stay beautiful! #TransIsBeautiful

Love
Ashley

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Quote from: SailorMars1994 on February 24, 2017, 10:04:17 AM
Omg bro this is so me in many regards. I have family like this. I know that my cousin named Mike would be so thrilled if i was defeated and went back into manhood. I have talked to him about this issue and all the feelings i have had even since childhood and the confusion and everything else. He doesnt  beleive i went through any of that saying if i was truely trans that there would have been ''signs''. He would point out all the things that apperently dont make me trans or not trans enough and when i point out all the great things estrogen has done to me like given me better mental clarity and even nice changes to the body his only reply was ''Well i still see some facial hair (was sick that day so rub alot of it under my nose off via tissue) and your voice is still pretty low''. Like i said, to him i am just some dude so in many ways i gotta thank him, it is people like him who push me to find my woman side even more. I refuse to give the negative doubters what they want, a miserable man instead of doing myself as a happy woman!

exactly.  any time i do bring it up, all i hear is "but you're so feminine" (even though they don't try to follow that up with examples because they know they don't have any, aside from the time in my life when i tried too hard to be a girl).  those who don't want to believe or accept something will find excuses until there are none left, and then they'll just start making them up.

Quote from: Jessie007 on February 24, 2017, 02:05:38 PM
Would I take a pill that makes my mind match my body? Without hesitation! ABSOLUTELY! Would I take a pill to make my body match my mind? Yes, provided it doesn't hurt anybody. I would take anything to stop the war inside my head. I wish I could just be a normal guy without the mental torment.

I feel the same way, and also agree with your likening this to a war inside your head. I feel like it's a bit of a catch 22 in that it tortures you if you deny it, but causes so many social problems if you give in to it. Life would be so much easier if this birth condition was never there in the first place.

That said, it is what it is, and we all must deal it in the best way we can. Judging by many an this forum, the trans cloud really can have a silver lining if you approach it with the right attitude.

Nope.

Besides, I already took the red pill. I want to see how deep this rabbit hole goes

That's tough. I wouldn't. I think logically it's really appealing: no hiding my gender, no dysphoria, no self-doubt... I actually thought, 'I guess I would,' before reading through this thread. But something about it just didn't feel right, and I couldn't really place it until I read this:

Quote from: Deborah on February 24, 2017, 09:08:50 AM
If the pill erases the trans then no, I wouldn't take it.  That would be akin to suicide, erasing who I fundamentally am.  The body would live on, inhabited by a different person.

I guess I can't see the blue-pill me as the same person. I'm not really sure though. I can't help thinking how HRT would also change my thought processes in a way, so I guess by the same logic, I'd be a different person there too. But I want HRT and not the blue pill. That's incongruous to me  :-\. This is all very philosophical to me, I don't know haha.

Quote from: Audrey94 on February 25, 2017, 02:47:32 AM

I'm not really sure though. I can't help thinking how HRT would also change my thought processes in a way, so I guess by the same logic, I'd be a different person there too. But I want HRT and not the blue pill. That's incongruous to me  :-\. This is all very philosophical to me, I don't know haha.

I have been at this only 9 months and I can feel the changes you are talking about and I am embracing them, each and every time I do embrace this, I free my spirit, just a little more...

Liz

I'd pass on it.  It took me a looong time to love and accept this part of me.  It would make me sad to just see it disappear.  I am so much happier living (somewhat) as a female. I connect with people better, am more nurturing, listen better, communicate better, etc.  I suppose it'd be alright being comfortable as a male, but being a 'good' male just seems to be a far less satisfying life for me IMHO.  My wife would probably sneak the pill into my food though lol.

Quote from: Jessie007 on February 24, 2017, 02:05:38 PM
Would I take a pill that makes my mind match my body? Without hesitation! ABSOLUTELY! Would I take a pill to make my body match my mind? Yes, provided it doesn't hurt anybody. I would take anything to stop the war inside my head. I wish I could just be a normal guy without the mental torment.

You see, this is where I stand with it all at the moment. But I think that will change as time goes on and I eventually get closer to transitioning. Of course, being as unsecure as I am, I was afraid that I "wasn't trans enough" because my current answer is yes, so I gave myself a different thought experiment. If I was exactly as I am now mentally and personality-wise, but without the time as male, and was given the chance to choose being male or female, I would choose female. No contest. Hands down. Don't even have to think about it.

If its the pill that changes your body to match your mind overnight...yes
If it had other side effects like understanding and speaking all languages like on Farscape, yes again.




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Ahhh, the pill question!

If someone offered me a pill to take away all of my transgender thoughts and live as a normal male without any other side effects, I'd take it in a heartbeat.  However, this is not because I dislike transgender thoughts; in fact I rather like the feminine feelings in some respects and, when I was regularly cross dressing, I loved both the sensation of the clothes and the feeling of calm and relief that came over me.  This was not a sexual thing but driven by a feeling that I had become much closer to the person I should have been.

However, what would motivate me to take the pill is the impact which my TG feelings have and the inner conflict they cause.  Being TG faces one with a choice, live with it or deal with it.  In my case, dealing it would mean the loss of my spouse, the consequential loss of my current comfortable lifestyle and an unquantifiable impact on my kids.  I therefore choose to live with it and try to deal with the emotional struggles on a day by day basis and any pill that could help me with this would be a godsend.

That said, the pill that could change history so that the midwife said 'it's a beautiful baby girl' would be far higher on my list of medication worth swallowing!

I would like to take two pills, one for male, and one for female. Then try each one and decide what I want. I don't like being in the middle.

I wouldn't mind doing that amandam haha. I wish i could do that with a lot of things.

I think an important question to ask is... How much is it trying to fix you? Will it simply eliminate bodily dysphoria and put you at some sort of peace with the idea of being your biological sex, or would it actually make a transman more feminine and a transwoman more masculine. And then how much so? I think if it was the former it seems like an acceptable idea but if it's the latter it sounds very sketchy. Gonna start pumping out some Stepford wives and husbands.

Quote from: AshleyUSMC on February 24, 2017, 08:29:02 AM
An interesting poll I've always wanted to try! I apologize if it triggers anyone, it was not my intention. I came across this question when I was taking the "Are you a Transgender" test online.

While I would have worded the question a bit differently, I understood what you were going for.

Obviously, I wouldn't take such a pill now, deep into my transition.  But if I could have cured my dysphoria before my transition by taking a pill and not having to worry about it?  Hell yes!

In super simplified terms gender dysphoria is a miscommunication between your body and mind.  We fix our bodies to match our minds because it's the only way we know how.  If we could fix the mind to match by taking a pill?  Again, hell yes.

what you say the pill does is something I had prayed for from age 9-26... but now, I feel like it would be counter productive. I am in the process of being seen as the person I truly am and not a fake persona. no I wouldn't take the pill. it would just be another lie...

Right.
If I took a pill that made my brain match my bio gender, then more than half my personality would disappear, since I'm 60% male-minded.

Do I really want to be like my cis female friends and relatives, most of whom have NO sense of humor, adventure, or fun, whose ideas of recreation involve endless shopping and buying make up, chasing men, redecorating their homes, who hate sweat, exercise, have rigid points of view, as in "my way the ONLY way," etc.?
Sounds boring to me.

The only "fun" women I know are the ones with a substantial dab of male brain imprinting. With a swagger in their steps and a mischievous gleam in their eyes, they are the ones up for anything, ready to head off on an outdoor adventure that doesn't involve getting stoned or drunk while chasing men.

Eeeew.

Quote from: AshleyUSMC on February 24, 2017, 08:17:00 PM
You all are so awesome for taking the time to answer my silly poll! <3 As i had said before, i apologize deeply if it triggered you, as it was not my intention! Stay beautiful! #TransIsBeautiful

Love
Ashley

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Actually I didnt find this triggering at all. It is quite thought provoking and in my view appropriate towards our situation and figureing out who we are and aswell, as where our views and thoughts were before transition and during/after. Still, no wanting of any manhood here <3

Yes, yes I would.  I cannot express how much I would.  I would love to live a normal life.  I would love for a day to go by where I don't feel like some sort of freak.  Living trans is just exhausting so being comfortable in my male body would be a godsend beyond any reasonable doubt.

I would if it took away the dysphoria and made me more femenine. And I would feel content. I would be a whole person.

If it just took away the dysphoria I would still walk, talk and behave like a man. I'd be misgendered a lot and be unhappy about it.

No matter what length I have had my hair, people have assumed I am male because of my behavior.

The thing I'm afraid of is that the pill will lose its effect and dysphoria will be back. So....maybe I would not take it.

Quote from: MeTonie on February 26, 2017, 01:54:51 AM
I would if it took away the dysphoria and made me more femenine. And I would feel content. I would be a whole person.

If it just took away the dysphoria I would still walk, talk and behave like a man. I'd be misgendered a lot and be unhappy about it.

No matter what length I have had my hair, people have assumed I am male because of my behavior.

The thing I'm afraid of is that the pill will lose its effect and dysphoria will be back. So....maybe I would not take it.

Well the thing is, if it makes you more feminine... How much so and what exactly is the pill-makers definition of that? Are they trying to change your whole personality so you seem like a "typical" female, and what is that? If it simply eliminates dysphoria, you would probably have all the problems of a really butch woman, which may piss you off, but you'd know that your personality would be intact once the pill had taken effect.

Quote from: TomTuttle on February 26, 2017, 06:06:00 AM
Well the thing is, if it makes you more feminine... How much so and what exactly is the pill-makers definition of that? Are they trying to change your whole personality so you seem like a "typical" female, and what is that? If it simply eliminates dysphoria, you would probably have all the problems of a really butch woman, which may piss you off, but you'd know that your personality would be intact once the pill had taken effect.

Hmmm... I would not want to change my personality. But so many times I have wished I could just blend in and be one among the others. But I am myself and would not want to change my personality. Maybe I would have 20 years ago, but not today.

Dysphoria or not. I want to be myself. It is a scary thought that someting would change my personality. Nobody would know me anymore. Not even me. Oh, I forgot. I was not supposed to remember the change. But I would notice on everyone else something wierd is going on.

No. I don't want someone to take away who I am just to fit into their schema of "normal".

Quote from: Jessie007 on February 24, 2017, 02:05:38 PM
Would I take a pill that makes my mind match my body? Without hesitation! ABSOLUTELY! Would I take a pill to make my body match my mind? Yes, provided it doesn't hurt anybody. I would take anything to stop the war inside my head. I wish I could just be a normal guy without the mental torment.

This is me

Not interested.  However if there were a pill that could make me female, then definitely.

My answer is no because I feel like it would change my core identity making me a different person.  Fact is I am a woman who was born into a body that doesn't match. My personality has been shaped by that female identity even if I denied it most of my life so I wouldn't be willing to inherently change who I am inside just so my identity would match with my outside.  For me, the gooey middle is far more important in defining who I am than the crunchy shell.