Community Conversation => Transitioning => Hormone replacement therapy => Topic started by: Amy Chislett on April 20, 2017, 11:37:13 AM Return to Full Version
Title: Wrinkles and hair loss
Post by: Amy Chislett on April 20, 2017, 11:37:13 AM
Post by: Amy Chislett on April 20, 2017, 11:37:13 AM
7 mos to the day after I started herbal, non regular estrogen, I've noticed wrinkles on my stomach and buttocks. This is not acceptable to me. I am a pentogenarian. The real reason I transitioned was to be attractive to men. After many false blames as to what caused this, I pointed out estrogen because of the skin section in the following link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progesterone#Skin_health
So I will start a twice daily lotion therapy regime - one day with aloe vera plant; the next with store bought lotion. The days I use AV I add in the expensive Kiehl's over-nite moisturising concentrate.
Also my hair is ~7" now, so it is snarley. When I comb it, I pull out so much hair it frightens me. I have been on an herbal testosterone blocker for six weeks.
If I don't see improvement over the next month I will stop the estrogen, but keep the T blocker. To be honest, I don't feel thee T blocker does much; good or bad. Is 2% progesterone cream prescription only in the US?
This is all so new to me; and I may have made errors, but do you have any suggestions, comments, criticisms, questions?
So I will start a twice daily lotion therapy regime - one day with aloe vera plant; the next with store bought lotion. The days I use AV I add in the expensive Kiehl's over-nite moisturising concentrate.
Also my hair is ~7" now, so it is snarley. When I comb it, I pull out so much hair it frightens me. I have been on an herbal testosterone blocker for six weeks.
If I don't see improvement over the next month I will stop the estrogen, but keep the T blocker. To be honest, I don't feel thee T blocker does much; good or bad. Is 2% progesterone cream prescription only in the US?
This is all so new to me; and I may have made errors, but do you have any suggestions, comments, criticisms, questions?
Title: Re: Wrinkles and hair loss
Post by: Amy Chislett on April 20, 2017, 11:48:43 AM
Post by: Amy Chislett on April 20, 2017, 11:48:43 AM
I feel I should confess that smoking, drinking and tanning over the last decade might be a factor as well.
Title: Re: Wrinkles and hair loss
Post by: Rambler on April 20, 2017, 12:19:07 PM
Post by: Rambler on April 20, 2017, 12:19:07 PM
It's very difficult to predict what herbal supplements might do to you or how they may interact with each other. In many cases, to get enough of a hormone to actually start making changes to your body, you will need to take a prohibitively expensive amount that would probably be difficult on your liver. Not that it can't be done.
I've never heard of wrinkles getting worse on estrogen. I can imagine you might be more prone to dealing with cellulite because of the fat redistribution.
As far as hair loss goes, are you suffering from MPB or is it caused by poor hair care? If MPB is the cause, I would suggest looking into a Finasteride prescription and possibly minoxidil. You should also note that if you are seeing results from your herbal regimen that any changes to your hormones can throw your body into flux for a period of time. Shedding is not an uncommon side effect of altering hormonal regulation, and if you are constantly playing with your hormones, you will probably see constant shed. If you are losing hair due to poor hair care, try switching to a high quality shampoo & conditioner, and test out supplements like folic acid, biotin, amino acids, and trace minerals to help strengthen the follicle. You should continue any hair loss routine for at least 6 months to see if you get results unless you have some sort of profound negative effect. Also, when you brush your hair, start from the ends and work your way to the roots to remove tangles, nothing the other way around!
I've never heard of wrinkles getting worse on estrogen. I can imagine you might be more prone to dealing with cellulite because of the fat redistribution.
As far as hair loss goes, are you suffering from MPB or is it caused by poor hair care? If MPB is the cause, I would suggest looking into a Finasteride prescription and possibly minoxidil. You should also note that if you are seeing results from your herbal regimen that any changes to your hormones can throw your body into flux for a period of time. Shedding is not an uncommon side effect of altering hormonal regulation, and if you are constantly playing with your hormones, you will probably see constant shed. If you are losing hair due to poor hair care, try switching to a high quality shampoo & conditioner, and test out supplements like folic acid, biotin, amino acids, and trace minerals to help strengthen the follicle. You should continue any hair loss routine for at least 6 months to see if you get results unless you have some sort of profound negative effect. Also, when you brush your hair, start from the ends and work your way to the roots to remove tangles, nothing the other way around!
Title: Re: Wrinkles and hair loss
Post by: EmmaLoo on April 21, 2017, 08:07:02 AM
Post by: EmmaLoo on April 21, 2017, 08:07:02 AM
One of the problems with herbal plant-based estrogens is that they are weaker than what your body produces naturally. When you flood you body with them they interfere with stronger estrogens. There's a very real possibility you're actually decreasing the overall effectiveness of your own estrogens and creating a net loss in effects. --Just something to consider.
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Title: Re: Wrinkles and hair loss
Post by: KayXo on April 21, 2017, 09:30:27 AM
Post by: KayXo on April 21, 2017, 09:30:27 AM
It's the lack of hormones, particularly estrogen and testosterone, that set off the ageing process at an accelerated pace. Progesterone may also help but can only gotten with a prescription, if you want something potent enough.
Title: Re: Wrinkles and hair loss
Post by: Dani on April 21, 2017, 09:40:37 AM
Post by: Dani on April 21, 2017, 09:40:37 AM
Quote from: Amy Chislett on April 20, 2017, 11:37:13 AM
The real reason I transitioned was to be attractive to men. .
I really do not want to be critical of anyone's decisions, but every therapist that I have talked to says that anyone who transitions must do it for themselves, not anyone else.
There are ways to make yourself more attractive to someone with out transition. Weight loss, skin rejuvenation, activities and interests are all part of being attractive.
Title: Re: Wrinkles and hair loss
Post by: KayXo on April 21, 2017, 01:45:23 PM
Post by: KayXo on April 21, 2017, 01:45:23 PM
But if wanting to be attractive to men is something they desire for themselves then it is indeed something they are doing for themselves. Being attractive perhaps makes them feel good, satisfies their urges/desires, etc. So be it. To each their own. :)