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Title: Any other ftm's here that don't bind and have small chests?
Post by: Vincent J on June 06, 2017, 01:01:04 PM
I barely have any breasts, and what could have been breasts at all is mostly muscle since I work that area out a lot ( work out a lot in general actually). You'd think that would make it easier as a ftm right? But I have dysphoria in that area and I don't completely understand. It's not like I have much of even bumps but I now realize I cannot keep denying it.. I am insecure about it and I hate my chest, but I don't understand why I do. Is anyone else in a similar situation and feels the same way? If so, have you been able to pinpoint why you feel that way? Because it's like, I have seen other ftm's that also have like no chest, are pre-op, and seem pretty comfortable with their chests and it's like, I don't understand why I am not happy with mine but they are. I just want to be comfortable with myself but it's hard when I don't understand what my issue is.
Title: Re: Any other ftm's here that don't bind and have small chests?
Post by: Peep on June 06, 2017, 03:20:59 PM
Disphoria isn't really logical -- sometimes it just doesn't make sense. I'm sorry you feel this way

could it be some kind of peer-pressure feeling or internalised transphobia -- like maybe you feel like you should have disphoria about your chest?

unfortunately i don't have a small chest so i can't really help you further than that but i saw that no one else had replied :P
Title: Re: Any other ftm's here that don't bind and have small chests?
Post by: Vincent J on June 06, 2017, 03:39:48 PM
Maybe that is it... Most of the people I do know who are in similar positions are always asking each other about binder advice and talking about how they dislike their chests and stuff like that.. I guess it sort of makes me feel a bit odd when they talk about that stuff since it doesn't really apply to me. Perhaps it is over nothing, but I am still feeling this way and I just want to stop hating over something like this, especially when my friends say they wish they were "as lucky". Like, I still got dysphoria too, I don't feel lucky.
Thank you for replying, and it's fine. You may be on to something. I just need tot ry to adjust my mind.. I'll figure it out.
Title: Re: Any other ftm's here that don't bind and have small chests?
Post by: Peep on June 06, 2017, 03:48:25 PM
You're absolutely allowed to feel dysphoria -- it's not a competition. you shouldn't feel guilty for being 'lucky'
Title: Re: Any other ftm's here that don't bind and have small chests?
Post by: Vincent J on June 06, 2017, 03:56:30 PM
I guess those specific friends do make it seem like a competition though. I do admit sometimes I am not even comfortable talking with them because of some of the subjects.. But we are all in the trans spectrum, so of course, it only seems right that others will want to talk about their insecurities right? I feel like it would be odd if at one point or another I tell them I feel uncomfortable with a subject since we're supposed to support each other with this.
Title: Re: Any other ftm's here that don't bind and have small chests?
Post by: WolfNightV4X1 on June 06, 2017, 04:41:27 PM
I think as much as ftm's can be Im really lucky because I dont have much of anything in that area, not even an A. It's awesome because I dont bind at all and dont have to worry about the troubles of having a chest like rib or back injuries. Its very obvious that I dont have much in that way and helps to pass since Im not obviously trying to hide anything.

That said...it still bothers me, it doesnt make me miserable but it still very much dissappoints me a lot of times and I fantasize about getting top surgery while Im still in my youth so I can spend my pool days feeling like a man much more and feeling more comfortable in having a 100% flat chest.Sometimes I still tape it down and admire it that way, or tape the nipples when Im not wearing a tank top to give a little extra padding to hide them. I really want surgery in that area as soon as I can, I decided a long while ago when I was trying to come to terms eith being small chested for a female that I didnt even want them at all, much less bigger for the sake of normalcy.

When I was a kid and looking in the mirror at puberty during a growth spurt and saw my chest had those strange new bumps, I felt defeated and miserable in that one look realizing my life would change forever and I couldnt do anything about it but move on and accept it.

So yeah, I honestly cant say I hurt more than others, I honestly feel really bad for other guys who arent that little bit closer that I am, but it still does hurt, because I dont want them and I want them gone asap



oh...most days I actually feel okay in my sorta masculine chest because I actually have seen my cis male friends with a little bit of fatty growth around the nipple area, it's not even uncommon and it's just as much an issue of discomfort and confidence for them too, I bet. So I mean, I live with it knowing it isnt too much different. I still have enough to keep me from going shirtless anywhere public though, sadly. I just want surgical intervention.
Title: Re: Any other ftm's here that don't bind and have small chests?
Post by: Elis on June 06, 2017, 05:08:50 PM
I'm not small chested myself but it's likely you feel dysphoria about your chest because the amount of tissue you have on your chest is still associated with being female. For me I think this is the reason I feel dysphoria in my chest even though I'm ok looking at my chest in the mirror and walking around my place topless. I've thought to myself; as my top surgery is coming up soon; why can't I just live with my chest how it is now bcos a lot of men have chests that look like mine and as I'm male it's still a male chest. But the above reason is the only answer I can think off. For some reason my brain sees my chest and interprets the lumps as something that shouldn't be there; which makes me feel intense discomfort if I don't wear my binder or my binder isn't tight enough. That plus my areolas and nipples are far too big which is again associated with being female and which makes me uncomfortable; even more so due to the reason nipples are bigger on cis women than cis men.
Title: Re: Any other ftm's here that don't bind and have small chests?
Post by: Kylo on June 06, 2017, 06:39:05 PM
Just the female nipple size and the fact there is still convex breast tissue would be enough to bother me.
Title: Re: Any other ftm's here that don't bind and have small chests?
Post by: ghostbees on June 06, 2017, 07:03:22 PM
My chest is a d cup and I don't bind that's because of a choice, really.
Binding can cause me to overheat so I tend not to these days.
Not everyone can bind so don't beat yourself up!


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Title: Re: Any other ftm's here that don't bind and have small chests?
Post by: WolfNightV4X1 on June 07, 2017, 12:28:17 PM
Kylo does make a good point! It's not about how much you've got it's about the fact that it could be read as female by yourself or others which causes the dysphoria.


if you track down the most miserable person on the face of the Earth and find that they are the only ones with permission to feel sad or dissappointed in life because by comparison everyone else has it made, well,  that doesn't make any sense. Some people have it "better" but that doesn't mean theyre situation is any less important and valid of emotional reaction within the sphere of their own circumstance. You can still feel pain even if you're not a third world child starving in Africa, or in this case even if you're not a guy with a chest you absolutely  have to bind just to feel more comfortable.