Community Conversation => Crossdresser talk => Topic started by: Patroklos on November 26, 2007, 01:54:41 PM Return to Full Version
Title: FtMtF? Help?
Post by: Patroklos on November 26, 2007, 01:54:41 PM
Post by: Patroklos on November 26, 2007, 01:54:41 PM
Well, most recently I've identified myself as an FtM transsexual whose gender is actually androgynous.
However, even though I'm generally very comfortable with this identity, lately I've begun to fancy the idea of crossdressing as a woman/girl. I really enjoy Lolita fashion and love to dress up in those Victorian dresses. But I'm trying to function socially as a man in a female body. I'm trying to begin HRT and have top surgery and yet I occasionally get the intense urge to have long hair again and frilly frocks and petticoats.
I really do strongly identify with the male body and desire that my own should be a close as possible to that of a cisgendered male but I love little girls' clothes.
Are there other FtMtF crossdressers out there? Is it possible? Is it practical to transition from FtM if I'm just going to wear girls' clothes anyway?
I'm feeling very conflicted. *sigh*
However, even though I'm generally very comfortable with this identity, lately I've begun to fancy the idea of crossdressing as a woman/girl. I really enjoy Lolita fashion and love to dress up in those Victorian dresses. But I'm trying to function socially as a man in a female body. I'm trying to begin HRT and have top surgery and yet I occasionally get the intense urge to have long hair again and frilly frocks and petticoats.
I really do strongly identify with the male body and desire that my own should be a close as possible to that of a cisgendered male but I love little girls' clothes.
Are there other FtMtF crossdressers out there? Is it possible? Is it practical to transition from FtM if I'm just going to wear girls' clothes anyway?
I'm feeling very conflicted. *sigh*
Title: Re: FtMtF? Help?
Post by: Nero on November 26, 2007, 02:01:45 PM
Post by: Nero on November 26, 2007, 02:01:45 PM
Why do you want a male body if you want to wear frilly frocks?
I HATED wearing frilly frocks as a kid.
I HATED wearing frilly frocks as a kid.
Title: Re: FtMtF? Help?
Post by: Patroklos on November 26, 2007, 02:18:38 PM
Post by: Patroklos on November 26, 2007, 02:18:38 PM
Well, I only sometimes want to wear frilly frocks and I always want a male body. This is a recent development, also. I hated dresses as a kid.
Plus, I don't necessarily think that frilly frocks would look bad on a male body. Or.. my body, were it male.
Plus, I don't necessarily think that frilly frocks would look bad on a male body. Or.. my body, were it male.
Title: Re: FtMtF? Help?
Post by: Nero on November 26, 2007, 02:34:39 PM
Post by: Nero on November 26, 2007, 02:34:39 PM
So, do you feel that you're male? And you just like dresses? I sometimes think men crossdress because of the lack of wardrobe variety.
Title: Re: FtMtF? Help?
Post by: Patroklos on November 26, 2007, 02:51:10 PM
Post by: Patroklos on November 26, 2007, 02:51:10 PM
Well, yes, I do just like dresses. Do I feel male? That's a much harder question.
Title: Re: FtMtF? Help?
Post by: Nero on November 26, 2007, 04:21:42 PM
Post by: Nero on November 26, 2007, 04:21:42 PM
There are those who are FtN (female to neutral). A lot actually. It's not so far fetched that some androgynes tend to the extremes. I'm male but I do enjoy some stereotypically girly things, not dresses, though.
Title: Re: FtMtF? Help?
Post by: Patroklos on November 26, 2007, 04:23:23 PM
Post by: Patroklos on November 26, 2007, 04:23:23 PM
I'll have to consider that, I suppose.
Title: Re: FtMtF? Help?
Post by: Nero on November 26, 2007, 04:27:39 PM
Post by: Nero on November 26, 2007, 04:27:39 PM
You don't have to label yourself. Just explore who you are. It can be quite the journey.
Title: Re: FtMtF? Help?
Post by: Patroklos on November 26, 2007, 05:19:40 PM
Post by: Patroklos on November 26, 2007, 05:19:40 PM
It's very stressful, though I suppose that it doesn't have to be. Thank you for the encouragement.
Title: Re: FtMtF? Help?
Post by: Nero on November 26, 2007, 05:57:59 PM
Post by: Nero on November 26, 2007, 05:57:59 PM
Yeah, it can be stressful. I didn't want to admit to myself I was trans. It was painful to so. To acknowledge it. I imagine it's the same for anyone gendered outside the norm cisgender. PM if you ever want to talk or unload or anything. I'm here for you buddy.
Title: Re: FtMtF? Help?
Post by: Patroklos on November 26, 2007, 05:59:25 PM
Post by: Patroklos on November 26, 2007, 05:59:25 PM
Thank you so much, .
Title: Re: FtMtF? Help?
Post by: Nero on November 26, 2007, 06:01:42 PM
Post by: Nero on November 26, 2007, 06:01:42 PM
I look forward to chewing the fat with you.
Title: Re: FtMtF? Help?
Post by: Skye on November 29, 2007, 08:15:24 PM
Post by: Skye on November 29, 2007, 08:15:24 PM
If I may, it sounds to me you need something soft and feminine in your life. I don't know what your interests are but I am 100% positive you can find someone to fill a void, even if temporary. This would go into exploring who you are. There is no right and wrong about it. Take your time and ask yourself what you feel you need/want.
Is it really you that wants to wear the dress? Or do you Identify the dress as being something feminine and soft and you feel you need that kind of comfort.
Basically just be honest with yourself about how you feel. You will work it out I am sure.
Best of luck to you.
Is it really you that wants to wear the dress? Or do you Identify the dress as being something feminine and soft and you feel you need that kind of comfort.
Basically just be honest with yourself about how you feel. You will work it out I am sure.
Best of luck to you.
Title: Re: FtMtF? Help?
Post by: RebeccaFog on November 29, 2007, 08:45:27 PM
Post by: RebeccaFog on November 29, 2007, 08:45:27 PM
Hi Milo,
I believe our friend, Wishy, went through this last year or so. I remember a thread by him where he was going through pretty much what you described.
Maybe you can ask him about it.
The thread is here:
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,10249.msg73449.html#msg73449 (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,10249.msg73449.html#msg73449)
Hope it helps some. I like what 's been saying to you too.
Rebis
I believe our friend, Wishy, went through this last year or so. I remember a thread by him where he was going through pretty much what you described.
Maybe you can ask him about it.
The thread is here:
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,10249.msg73449.html#msg73449 (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,10249.msg73449.html#msg73449)
Hope it helps some. I like what 's been saying to you too.
Rebis
Title: Re: FtMtF? Help?
Post by: OtokoSuki on December 08, 2007, 05:57:13 PM
Post by: OtokoSuki on December 08, 2007, 05:57:13 PM
Quote from: Milo on November 26, 2007, 01:54:41 PM
I really do strongly identify with the male body and desire that my own should be a close as possible to that of a cisgendered male but I love little girls' clothes.
Hi Milo, I totally understand what you're saying. I have thought about wearing Japanese school sailor outfits before... in a male body of course. To me it's not weird at all.
Title: Re: FtMtF? Help?
Post by: RebeccaFog on December 08, 2007, 06:58:26 PM
Post by: RebeccaFog on December 08, 2007, 06:58:26 PM
Quote from: OtokoSuki on December 08, 2007, 05:57:13 PMit is if you live in the tundra. :laugh:Quote from: Milo on November 26, 2007, 01:54:41 PM
I really do strongly identify with the male body and desire that my own should be a close as possible to that of a cisgendered male but I love little girls' clothes.
Hi Milo, I totally understand what you're saying. I have thought about wearing Japanese school sailor outfits before... in a male body of course. To me it's not weird at all.