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Title: Have you experienced sexual harassment as a transgender person?
Post by: stephaniec on July 15, 2017, 06:38:37 PM
There is a news story. On CNN about sexuall harassment in the tech industry just curiouss if as a trans you've ever experienced sexual harrasment












Admin edit: Fixed title. Devlyn
Title: Re: have you experianced sexual harassment as a trans
Post by: Lady Sarah on July 15, 2017, 10:26:44 PM
The only sexual harassment I have experienced has been the typical kind you might get from idiotic men that think women are good for nothing but sex. Normally, giving a "look that might kill" is enough. When that fails, one good jab does the trick.
Title: Re: have you experianced sexual harassment as a trans
Post by: Raell on July 16, 2017, 01:10:47 AM
Since I'm non-transitioning and androgynous, my only persecution had been occasional scorn of cisfemales for my clueless male behavior, which I ignored, being male-minded, or persecution from my parents, who actively mocked my bold personality. Perhaps my dad felt threatened by me?

In public, I apparently appear to be within female gender norms, despite androgynous clothing.
Title: have you experianced sexual harassment as a trans
Post by: rose on July 17, 2017, 11:15:01 AM
I always get sexual harassments the worst part I cannot call the police
Because if I do I'm guilty for being trans

Title: Re: have you experianced sexual harassment as a trans
Post by: Devlyn on July 17, 2017, 11:31:19 AM
Not at all. I transitioned on the job, though. They remember the boy side.

Hugs, Devlyn
Title: Re: have you experianced sexual harassment as a trans
Post by: EmmaLoo on July 17, 2017, 12:38:39 PM

I had inappropriate comments made that were very clearly sexual in nature. I shut them down immediately, but kindly, on the spot. It never reached the level of harassment.
Title: Re: have you experianced sexual harassment as a trans
Post by: sarah1972 on July 17, 2017, 01:36:28 PM
Not due to being trans. What I had experienced is more in line what I heard from other cis women. Try walking through a train car packed with horny business men at the end of a week where they have been away from their girlfriends / wifes for 5 days. I do not claim I am passing well but I think they looked mostly at my heels / skirt / chest and stopped there.
Made me feel really odd and bad about myself for having had the same stare in the past.
Borderline to classify as sexual harassment but it is still somewhat uncomfortable...
Title: Re: have you experianced sexual harassment as a trans
Post by: RobynD on July 17, 2017, 01:44:30 PM
Micro-aggressions (stares that are too long etc.) but never anything very overt. I am increasingly getting interest from men but most of that has been polite. 

Part of being a woman and presenting as such is you will see more looks etc it just a fairly consistent part of how the people act both culturally and biologically. However there is no excuse for harassment, there should be a zero tolerance attitude on that.
Title: Re: have you experianced sexual harassment as a trans
Post by: Aurorasky on July 17, 2017, 03:35:45 PM
No, but I have as a girl. I have lost count of how many times. It happens everywhere. Really, unsolicited comments about your appearance, especially in a crude manner, are soo intruding and I feel so bad afterwards.
Title: Re: Have you experienced sexual harassment as a transgender person?
Post by: pretty pauline on July 17, 2017, 04:28:39 PM
No never experienced sexual harassment  for being trans, but everyday for being a woman, particular walking pass construction sites in the present hot weather and wearing a pretty summer dress and open toe heels, macho horny construction workers wolf whistling and shouting leering comments, it makes me feel anxious and nervous, but I keep walking and just try to ignore them. Sitting opposite men on a train I can feel eyes on me staring at my chest and legs if I'm wearing a dress and heels.
On the upside some men are gentlemen, polite and offer up their seat, which is nice, I've got use to it now over the years, it's all part of being a woman, comes with the territory, I had absolutely no idea what it was going to be like, and nobody does till we experience life and live as a woman. I feel more secure and safe if my husband is with me, that's another thing, I experience very little harassment when I'm with my man, lots of macho men go very silent when a woman is ''protected'' by another man, they pull in their horns, that's life for thousands of years, males wanting to dominate, power and influence over females, ok rant over, I could go on and on.....
Title: Re: Have you experienced sexual harassment as a transgender person?
Post by: Raell on July 18, 2017, 12:12:28 AM
Yeah, I get the part about being on both sides of the fence, even though I'm only a non-transitioning nonbinary partial transmale.

Even when I thought I was a normal cisfemale, no male could even secretly ogle me without my instinctively sensing it and whirling to give the male an "evil eye" such as a cismale would do if another male looked him over. The poor, confused males would hastily avert their eyes.

It took my becoming aware of my partial transmale status to realize that this behavior is NOT normal for cisfemales, who often are actually flattered by the attention. I finally noticed that I'm gender fluid, and was constantly switching between the two gender modes during the day.

I found that taking a local Thai herb, derris scandens, blended my genders and if I took a lot of capsules I would lean toward my female side. Suddenly males, whom I never noticed, began to look cute, and women became just normal people.
When men ogled me, instead of whirling to glare, I'd smile, and suddenly my wide stance stride collapsed, and I slowed down. Without my trying to do so, my hips would actually sway when I walked.

But in the late afternoon as the herb began to wear off, I'd be walking down the street and suddenly all the women, who were simply "people" before, would become the most beautiful, cunning creatures on earth, and I'd find myself desperately trying to get second looks by using motorbike mirrors, staying partially hidden, etc. The women were NEVER fooled.

Even from blocks away, they'd whirl to meet my eyes, but being Thai, so probably bisexual, they'd mentally calculate my usefulness to them..hmmm. Americans can marry same sex people and get them green cards, and besides, foreigners of both genders have money, so even though a small percentage would stick their noses in the air and stalk off, more often the women who found themselves being admired would put on a show for me, leaning over their motorbikes to retrieve packages to give me good look at their stunning bodies, while glancing coyly in my direction.

Weirdly, if the derris scandens affects wore off at work, female teachers all around me in the teacher's lounge, who had previously been minding their own business would suddenly sit up straight to push out their bosoms, cross their legs to let their skirts hike, and start glancing at me and giggling, finding excuses to sit near me.

It's weird that people are all psychic like that. The change was instantaneous. If it went the other way and I took derris scandens at work, the same Thai women teachers would suddenly lose interest in me and return to normal behavior. It's all subconscious, apparently.

I now take two capsules a day which keeps me in a sort of androgynous state all the time. I don't react now to either gender.
I'm asexual anyway, but panromantic, being attracted to both genders under different circumstances, but without any sexual imaginings.
Title: Re: Have you experienced sexual harassment as a transgender person?
Post by: JMJW on July 18, 2017, 11:51:26 AM
I haven't had any sexual harrassment but more like the odd laddish comment from someone who knows me in male presentation and thought I was doing this for a laugh for a party. So to them it's like commenting on a dude wearing a fancy dress costume. It's not something I took personally.
Title: Re: Have you experienced sexual harassment as a transgender person?
Post by: SerenaOhSerena on July 19, 2017, 07:25:35 PM
I was at the bar a few nights ago and went outside to the car by myself. Guy comes out of nowhere drunk and starts following me and then grabs my hips saying vulgar/gross ->-bleeped-<-. I scared him off saying I'd call the police but it was more annoying/pathetic than anything else.
Title: Re: Have you experienced sexual harassment as a transgender person?
Post by: Sydney_NYC on July 20, 2017, 08:55:14 PM
I've have experience sexual harassment as a woman, but not not because I am transgender. One evening my wife and were on the subway platform in Chelsea (NYC) and this 6'3" man, who might have been a little drunk, comes up to me to tell me how he loved my red hair and height and asked if I was Irish. He then told me: "I want to put a baby in you to make tall babies!" My wife (who is a brown belt in Karate) told him that he needed to leave and I was in a little bit of shock. Luckily our train arrived and we got on and he didn't. While on the train it hit me that if I had been alone, he would have probably tried to rape me.
Title: Re: Have you experienced sexual harassment as a transgender person?
Post by: elkie-t on July 20, 2017, 10:27:36 PM
Quote from: Sydney_NYC on July 20, 2017, 08:55:14 PM
I've have experience sexual harassment as a woman, but not not because I am transgender. One evening my wife and were on the subway platform in Chelsea (NYC) and this 6'3" man, who might have been a little drunk, comes up to me to tell me how he loved my red hair and height and asked if I was Irish. He then told me: "I want to put a baby in you to make tall babies!" My wife (who is a brown belt in Karate) told him that he needed to leave and I was in a little bit of shock. Luckily our train arrived and we got on and he didn't. While on the train it hit me that if I had been alone, he would have probably tried to rape me.
Oh, Sidney. He probably wouldn't, not in such a public place as a subway station. And he might've even wasn't violent and mean at all, and just tried to flirt with you.

And brown belt or not, your wife wouldn't be a physical match to a strong and big man. Although brave heart means a lot.
Title: Re: Have you experienced sexual harassment as a transgender person?
Post by: KathyLauren on July 21, 2017, 07:21:06 AM
None since I became aware of who I am.  But back when I was a teenager, I was sexually assaulted by another teenager whose 'gaydar' picked up my transness but registered it as gay.
Title: Re: Have you experienced sexual harassment as a transgender person?
Post by: Abbie Normal on July 28, 2017, 07:55:26 PM
 In a way yes I have, it wasn't pleasant. I was in the grocery store shopping when some hillbilly ,who must of been starring at my ass realised that I'm trans. He made a really big seen announcing to the whole store that that guy had a womans ass and hips. Witch in a strange way caught me off gard, because I live in a very small town, and when I was still trying to pass as a man I had made a reputation for being wild and a bit vindictive, as in colorfull pranks. That weren't always easy to clean up. I've got one hell of a twisted imagination. And most people around here don't mess with me because of this. I don't think they want to clean the tampons out of there trees.:-)