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Hello, I'm new to the site & this will be my first post.

After over a 2 years of research & appointments...I finally have my phalloplasty surgery date(s). Excited & thankful beyond words. NYC was very late to offering FTM surgeries -- so all of a sudden, two leaders in hospitals (Mt. Sinai & NYU) jumped at offering top surgeons.

Problem is, I now have 2 options -- both really great surgeons that will completely cover the cost/via medicaid. So, I need your advice.

The first is with Dr. Bluebond-Langner at NYU. My ALT phalloplasty surgery is scheduled for Nov 2017. She was amazing to meet and discuss options with. I was highly impressed.

Then...I had my hysterectomy with Mt Sinai last month (July 2017) & it went so well. And the team recommended I meet with Dr. Ting for a phalloplasty consultation...I was really expecting to go with Dr. BL at NYU...but hey, I thought it's always good to get another surgical opinion. So, I met with Dr. Ting a few weeks ago...& I was blown away!!

Not sure if anyone here is familiar with a new phalloplasty technique he has just created -- but there's no arm or thigh donor site. He uses skin from the labia & lower stomach. I return in a few weeks to get more specific details with the Mt Sinai surgical team. But I saw photos & I was really impressed...

Any advice? Anyone here had phalloplasty surgery with either surgeon? I finally have options here in NYC but I don't know who to choose. I have respect & trust in both. I'm leaning towards Dr. Ting at Mt Sinai...

Dr. BL has done more phallos at this point than Dr. Ting, if experience matters to you.

I personally would not want to be one of the first few people getting a new version of anything, especially phalloplasty which is already very complicated. So if I chose Ting, I wouldn't go with his new offering. At least not until he had done at least a dozen of them successfully on other people.

I consulted with Dr. BL and would have gone to her had insurance cooperated. I also met Dr. Zhao and Dr. Weinberg (who are also involved in phallo at NYU) while I was in Serbia and they both seemed great. Haven't met Ting, but he was trained by my surgeon so gets bonus points for that from me.

It's a tough choice. If it were me, I'd consult with both and specifically ask about stages and aftercare. Dr. BL is very cautious and stretches these out into 3-5 stage ordeals, which would have been a deal breaker for me (I talked her down to 2-3 based on what I wanted). So if Ting would by default squeeze more into fewer stages, that would be a plus for me. And if either of them are better suited to coordinating your aftercare, I'd go with that one.

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Thanks Max & Jacqui! I really appreciate your responses. I have a lot to consider & honestly I haven't decided yet. Hoping additional guys have had a similar experience to me...or surgery from one of them. I would imagine a lot of guys hoping or planning to have phalloplasty here in NYC.

With Ting's method I am assuming you need to clear hair from the stomach correct?

I was set with Dr. B-L last month but found out I have cancer so now they are making me wait until next summer but only if I stay cancer free, which may be a long shot. I am now not so keen on her 5 stages, too.

I have an intake with Ting's office late next month, psych eval and all. After that I would meet with him. He is booked for phallo through late spring 2018. So if you want to have surgery sooner rather than later you may want to stick to Dr. B-L.

Dr B-L for the reasons Max said. Her experience, and this idea of a new phallo I wouldn't trust. A new method created by a surgeon new to trans surgery?  No way for me.
I met B-L. She fit me in after I had to get a testicular implant removed due to infection (my surgeries were with Crane).  She was great. I'd go to her for surgery, for certain.
Level headed, smart, honest, direct. My kind of health provider.

This is a great discussion going forward as I try to nail down my surgeon as well.  It's down to Crane (Austin, TX), Bluebond-Langner, or Dr Miro in Serbia.  Tough decisions, and for me--most experienced and successful surgeon will rule the day.


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Quote from: CMD042414 on August 23, 2017, 09:28:32 AM
I was set with Dr. B-L last month but found out I have cancer so now they are making me wait until next summer but only if I stay cancer free, which may be a long shot. I am now not so keen on her 5 stages, too.

I have an intake with Ting's office late next month, psych eval and all. After that I would meet with him. He is booked for phallo through late spring 2018. So if you want to have surgery sooner rather than later you may want to stick to Dr. B-L.

I am sorry to hear about your cancer.  I had Stage 3 B colon cancer 7 years ago.  I went through 2 surgeries and 6 months of chemotherapy.  If you want to talk, give me a shout.  Hang in there.

Quote from: FTMax on August 22, 2017, 06:13:15 PM
Dr. BL has done more phallos at this point than Dr. Ting, if experience matters to you.

I personally would not want to be one of the first few people getting a new version of anything, especially phalloplasty which is already very complicated. So if I chose Ting, I wouldn't go with his new offering. At least not until he had done at least a dozen of them successfully on other people.

I consulted with Dr. BL and would have gone to her had insurance cooperated. I also met Dr. Zhao and Dr. Weinberg (who are also involved in phallo at NYU) while I was in Serbia and they both seemed great. Haven't met Ting, but he was trained by my surgeon so gets bonus points for that from me.

It's a tough choice. If it were me, I'd consult with both and specifically ask about stages and aftercare. Dr. BL is very cautious and stretches these out into 3-5 stage ordeals, which would have been a deal breaker for me (I talked her down to 2-3 based on what I wanted). So if Ting would by default squeeze more into fewer stages, that would be a plus for me. And if either of them are better suited to coordinating your aftercare, I'd go with that one.

Max:  Does Doc BL do MLD donor sites?  I did visit NYU's website (as well as Crane) and requested a consult from them as I await more word from Doc Miro.  Dr Zhou likely does the urological work, no?  Lastly, does Dr BL do the histo, oopho, vaginectomy, or send folks to have that done first?  Like you--I'd like to have as few stages as is humanly possible.  (That sends me back to Miro!)

I'll be honest, I appreciate Dr Miro's website more than anything I've seen here stateside.  His site explains the surgery in great detail--almost a teaching site! 

Patiently (not so much) waiting....


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Dr. BL will do just about any donor site you can dream of (and some you haven't) at last chat with her. I don't know if that has changed at all since her move to NYU. I talked to her when she was still at UMD and she had a lot of leeway there to do whatever was in the patient's best interest. Crane will do MLD but it is probably the donor site he has done the least of. That's not to say that BL is more experienced with MLD, because I don't know that that is true. But it is one of the least popular donor sites currently so it's tough to find anyone stateside with a lot of experience in it.

Zhao does all the urological work, and again, he was pretty fantastic. Also, don't know quite where you are in NY, but Dr. Nikolavsky in Syracuse is a urologist who regularly fixes issues with UL from other surgeons. Met him in Serbia as well, very sharp guy.

I'm not sure on the hysto question. I didn't ask since I already had mine done when I met with her, and I think most of the people I personally know who have gone to her have had theirs done in advance as well. I would call her office and ask if that needs to be done in advance. 9 times out of 10 in the US, for phalloplasty, the answer is going to be to get it done first and then come in. I have only met one phallo guy who is having his done simultaneously, and that is due to additional health issues and his doctor wanting to reduce the instances that he's subjected to anesthesia.

Quote from: Bimmer Guy on August 28, 2017, 10:32:20 PM
I am sorry to hear about your cancer.  I had Stage 3 B colon cancer 7 years ago.  I went through 2 surgeries and 6 months of chemotherapy.  If you want to talk, give me a shout.  Hang in there.

Thanks!

Thanks again for all your responses. There's a lot to consider.

Dr BL doesn't perform hysterectomies from what I discussed with her & her team a few months ago. So I chose Dr. Rodriguez (who is amazing!) at Mt Sinai, also here in NYC (100% covered with medicaid). I really have loved the new trans center at Mt Sinai...it's such an incredible resource with an entire team dedicated to trans surgeries, health, and mental wellness. If anyone here is based in NYC & hasn't checked it out...go make an appt.

On Sept 13th, I return to Mt Sinai for more details regarding Dr Ting's new phalloplasty procedure. I already met with him & again, I was very impressed (& saw photos). Many of you have expressed concern over a "new" technique, but honestly all surgeons in this field (including Crane) have spent many years altering & improving each method, with every patient. New techniques happen all the time.

I still haven't decided what surgeon I will go with...& I think Dr BL is a highly skilled surgeon -- but the idea of using a large donor site is slowly becoming an outdated method (from what I've been told). There's obviously pros & cons to all surgeries -- no question about it. But if there's a new phalloplasty procedure that doesn't involve taking a donor site from my arm or thigh, I would be pumped & more than willing to research...& be open to learning about such a procedure. I believe I'd be his 15th patient come Jan 2018 if I choose him.

I'll update everyone once I gather even more details on the 13th. Side frustration: Dr BL's team hasn't returned any of my calls or emails & my surgery is scheduled for Nov 2017. They also don't facilitate or offer hair removal at their offices (thus, not covered by medicaid, ugh). Not a huge deal, but frustrating in that it's quite expensive here in Manhattan. Mt Sinai offers all hair removal, schedules all appts with the patient directly & 100% covered by medicaid.

Many fear advancements & new techniques, but I personally find it awesome. Many years from now, phalloplasty will be even more highly advanced. It's already come so far...

Still deciding...& I'm happy to listen to your thoughts...thanks

Quote from: transnomad on August 30, 2017, 10:30:10 AM
Thanks again for all your responses. There's a lot to consider.

Dr BL doesn't perform hysterectomies from what I discussed with her & her team a few months ago. So I chose Dr. Rodriguez (who is amazing!) at Mt Sinai, also here in NYC (100% covered with medicaid). I really have loved the new trans center at Mt Sinai...it's such an incredible resource with an entire team dedicated to trans surgeries, health, and mental wellness. If anyone here is based in NYC & hasn't checked it out...go make an appt.

On Sept 13th, I return to Mt Sinai for more details regarding Dr Ting's new phalloplasty procedure. I already met with him & again, I was very impressed (& saw photos). Many of you have expressed concern over a "new" technique, but honestly all surgeons in this field (including Crane) have spent many years altering & improving each method, with every patient. New techniques happen all the time.

I still haven't decided what surgeon I will go with...& I think Dr BL is a highly skilled surgeon -- but the idea of using a large donor site is slowly becoming an outdated method (from what I've been told). There's obviously pros & cons to all surgeries -- no question about it. But if there's a new phalloplasty procedure that doesn't involve taking a donor site from my arm or thigh, I would be pumped & more than willing to research...& be open to learning about such a procedure. I believe I'd be his 15th patient come Jan 2018 if I choose him.

I'll update everyone once I gather even more details on the 13th. Side frustration: Dr BL's team hasn't returned any of my calls or emails & my surgery is scheduled for Nov 2017. They also don't facilitate or offer hair removal at their offices (thus, not covered by medicaid, ugh). Not a huge deal, but frustrating in that it's quite expensive here in Manhattan. Mt Sinai offers all hair removal, schedules all appts with the patient directly & 100% covered by medicaid.

Many fear advancements & new techniques, but I personally find it awesome. Many years from now, phalloplasty will be even more highly advanced. It's already come so far...

Still deciding...& I'm happy to listen to your thoughts...thanks

Is the September 13th appointment with Ting or the intake folks? I have a trio of back to back appointments for intake on the 20th but I don't actually meet with him until sometime after.

Wow, thanks for all this info, I was actually recently referred to Mt. Sinai for Phallo. Glad to hear about this new technique.

Apologize for the delay! It's official...I have chosen Dr. Ting & the team at Mt Sinai, NYC to perform my phalloplasty! My surgery date is January 31st, 2018. After meeting with Dr. Ting & his (amazing) team numerous times (almost all are trans men & women btw!!)...without question, I want his new form of phalloplasty. It works for me/my body & I couldn't be more pumped. His technique doesn't have an official name yet but it takes skin from the labia (sorry, hate that word but need to explain) and the surrounding genital area to form the phallus and scrotum. The scrotum is made with skin tissue rather than "implants" so they are softer. NYC Medicaid will be paying for my entire surgery along with multiple sessions of electrolysis.

I had my first session last week and it was extremely painful. You put on numbing cream an hour prior, then arrive & they stick 3 thick needles up your privates to completely numb the entire genital area. I have no needle fears...but let me just say, this was by far - the most painful experience ever. But then once that's over (& your entire genital area is swollen!!) you have 2 hours of hair removal. Thankfully by a beautiful & sweet trans woman who made my experience so much better! It's not easy but they do this so the hair removal process goes quicker (over a 3-4 month period)...and the machine is put on a much higher level so less visits are needed. It's smart of them -- but not easy. Thankfully you are in a very trans-friendly medical environment.

If you have any questions for me regarding Dr. Ting's new phalloplasty procedure... please ask & I'll try to provide information. I did see post-op photos and it's awesome. There will be a row of stitches on the top of my penis because of how the skin is formed and attached. And I do know they take a nerve/muscle from the abdominal area. I have a little drawing if someone wants to see that.

Keep you posted on my journey... thank you for all your advice... really awesome guys here on this forum.

Quote from: transnomad on September 19, 2017, 11:58:38 AM
Apologize for the delay! It's official...I have chosen Dr. Ting & the team at Mt Sinai, NYC to perform my phalloplasty! My surgery date is January 31st, 2018. After meeting with Dr. Ting & his (amazing) team numerous times (almost all are trans men & women btw!!)...without question, I want his new form of phalloplasty. It works for me/my body & I couldn't be more pumped. His technique doesn't have an official name yet but it takes skin from the labia (sorry, hate that word but need to explain) and the surrounding genital area to form the phallus and scrotum. The scrotum is made with skin tissue rather than "implants" so they are softer. NYC Medicaid will be paying for my entire surgery along with multiple sessions of electrolysis.

I had my first session last week and it was extremely painful. You put on numbing cream an hour prior, then arrive & they stick 3 thick needles up your privates to completely numb the entire genital area. I have no needle fears...but let me just say, this was by far - the most painful experience ever. But then once that's over (& your entire genital area is swollen!!) you have 2 hours of hair removal. Thankfully by a beautiful & sweet trans woman who made my experience so much better! It's not easy but they do this so the hair removal process goes quicker (over a 3-4 month period)...and the machine is put on a much higher level so less visits are needed. It's smart of them -- but not easy. Thankfully you are in a very trans-friendly medical environment.

If you have any questions for me regarding Dr. Ting's new phalloplasty procedure... please ask & I'll try to provide information. I did see post-op photos and it's awesome. There will be a row of stitches on the top of my penis because of how the skin is formed and attached. And I do know they take a nerve/muscle from the abdominal area. I have a little drawing if someone wants to see that.

Keep you posted on my journey... thank you for all your advice... really awesome guys here on this forum.

This is interesting. I have an intake with them tomorrow actually. Although I now want MLD this sounds cool. But I wouldn't be surprised if it limits penis size. That's an issue for me.

CMD042414: Cool, let me know how your meeting goes... yes probably penis size varies based on numerous factors, including how much skin is in your genital area. But I saw photos & they were the ideal size for me. Not to get graphic, but I have enough skin down there thankfully so Dr. Ting felt very confident that the surgery would fit nicely with my body. I guess it all depends and since it's a new procedure...there's some aspects they won't know until surgery. Good luck!!

Well I live 2.5 hours away. Got half way there and the office calls to say one of the 3 clinicians I was seeing called out sick. Needless to say I was and still am pissed off. The next opening isn't until November. Only after that appointment do I see Dr. Ting and that is 3-4 months wait. So yea right now I am not to keen on Mt. Sinai. I now want MLD and not ALT so I am probably going to wait for Dr. Rumer to get up and running here in Philadelphia. That way I can be at home.

Quote from: FTMax on August 29, 2017, 02:12:35 PM
Dr. BL will do just about any donor site you can dream of (and some you haven't) at last chat with her. I don't know if that has changed at all since her move to NYU. I talked to her when she was still at UMD and she had a lot of leeway there to do whatever was in the patient's best interest. Crane will do MLD but it is probably the donor site he has done the least of. That's not to say that BL is more experienced with MLD, because I don't know that that is true. But it is one of the least popular donor sites currently so it's tough to find anyone stateside with a lot of experience in it.

Zhao does all the urological work, and again, he was pretty fantastic. Also, don't know quite where you are in NY, but Dr. Nikolavsky in Syracuse is a urologist who regularly fixes issues with UL from other surgeons. Met him in Serbia as well, very sharp guy.

I'm not sure on the hysto question. I didn't ask since I already had mine done when I met with her, and I think most of the people I personally know who have gone to her have had theirs done in advance as well. I would call her office and ask if that needs to be done in advance. 9 times out of 10 in the US, for phalloplasty, the answer is going to be to get it done first and then come in. I have only met one phallo guy who is having his done simultaneously, and that is due to additional health issues and his doctor wanting to reduce the instances that he's subjected to anesthesia.

FTMax:  Thanks for your info on this, and you are correct, Dr BL does require the hysto-oopho first prior to any phallo surgeries.  As luck would have it, I did get a response back from her office this week and have a consult set up on 12/4.  Their office is determining whether or not they are on my insurance provider list, and we'll go from there.  And just today, Dr Miro answered back and agreed to set up a consult when he is stateside in November (for his teaching stint I presume, at Mt Sinai), so I'm excited and nervous all at the same time!  While GCS seems likely in my future, it sure looks like wickedly painful surgery(ies) and long recovery periods.  I am not yet fully convinced that I want to include the UL surgery, as I just imagine so many complications over time with that whole set up.  I could be wrong and hope I am, but being lucky enough to have had a pretty healthy 54 years, I'm really not totally crazy about the idea of throwing myself in to the medical industrial complex --by choice, but the trade off is the lifetime of packers and glue (not great).  Seeing more photos of successful post-op aesthetics would surely help, and honestly, just meeting the practitioners as well--goes a long way.  Am thrilled to be moving forward.


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CMD042414: sorry to hear that! OMG that is beyond frustrating... It took me well over 1.5 years to coordinate all the necessary letters and appointments so I completely understand. Waiting and waiting...it's such a process! Well, good luck and keep us posted!

Quote from: transnomad on September 19, 2017, 11:58:38 AM
Apologize for the delay! It's official...I have chosen Dr. Ting & the team at Mt Sinai, NYC to perform my phalloplasty! My surgery date is January 31st, 2018. After meeting with Dr. Ting & his (amazing) team numerous times (almost all are trans men & women btw!!)...without question, I want his new form of phalloplasty. It works for me/my body & I couldn't be more pumped. His technique doesn't have an official name yet but it takes skin from the labia (sorry, hate that word but need to explain) and the surrounding genital area to form the phallus and scrotum. The scrotum is made with skin tissue rather than "implants" so they are softer. NYC Medicaid will be paying for my entire surgery along with multiple sessions of electrolysis.

I had my first session last week and it was extremely painful. You put on numbing cream an hour prior, then arrive & they stick 3 thick needles up your privates to completely numb the entire genital area. I have no needle fears...but let me just say, this was by far - the most painful experience ever. But then once that's over (& your entire genital area is swollen!!) you have 2 hours of hair removal. Thankfully by a beautiful & sweet trans woman who made my experience so much better! It's not easy but they do this so the hair removal process goes quicker (over a 3-4 month period)...and the machine is put on a much higher level so less visits are needed. It's smart of them -- but not easy. Thankfully you are in a very trans-friendly medical environment.

If you have any questions for me regarding Dr. Ting's new phalloplasty procedure... please ask & I'll try to provide information. I did see post-op photos and it's awesome. There will be a row of stitches on the top of my penis because of how the skin is formed and attached. And I do know they take a nerve/muscle from the abdominal area. I have a little drawing if someone wants to see that.

Keep you posted on my journey... thank you for all your advice... really awesome guys here on this forum.

Awesome! I'd love to see the drawing. As I mentioned before, I've been referred to Mt. Sinai as well and am looking forward to getting phallo done. I recently had a hysterectomy as well but at Yale. Any info is much appreciated. Also, you mentioned the new technique was best for your body type, what kind of body type do you think this works best on? Thanks and feel free to PM me.

This is so exciting! Just saw an upload on Transbucket of Dr Ting's technique and I've got to say it looks fantastic and apparently his phalloplastys are able to retain "turgor" afterwards? Fascinating stuff, please keep us updated if possible and best of luck.

JHeron: agree...this new technique is so exciting!! Yes, Dr Ting uploaded some photos on Transbucket & I'm really excited to have my surgery in January! Keep you posted...

icesolidmind: "...you mentioned the new technique was best for your body type, what kind of body type do you think this works best on?" To answer your question... I'll try not to be too graphic, but I kind of have to...in order to explain. I don't mind sharing. T created growth down there (for me) in my "labia" / surrounding area as well. I can't explain it but the skin itself also feels different as well. Even my girlfriend can't believe how things have changed "down there" in the past 1.5 years for me. So Dr Ting said that his procedure "fit my body" because there's enough skin to work with for everything I've requested. Feel free to PM as well...

Quote from: transnomad on September 21, 2017, 10:17:39 AM
CMD042414: Cool, let me know how your meeting goes... yes probably penis size varies based on numerous factors, including how much skin is in your genital area. But I saw photos & they were the ideal size for me. Not to get graphic, but I have enough skin down there thankfully so Dr. Ting felt very confident that the surgery would fit nicely with my body. I guess it all depends and since it's a new procedure...there's some aspects they won't know until surgery. Good luck!!

This sounds very interesting!  Would love to see the drawing if you could message.  I am doing consults w Dr Miro in NYC (although he has no OR privileges at Mt Sinai, he is teaching there) 11/3 and Dr BL 12/4.  I also wonder about the pedicle flap procedure?  I understand it is often accomplished without UL.  Does anyone know about this procedure? 


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@JHeron

Thanks for your message. It's so odd...but I'm unable to reply to any private messages??? Is this because I'm new? I checked all my settings & logged on/off a few times. There's no "reply" button anywhere.

Perhaps you guys know what I can do.

Anyhow, I have Health First Medicaid here in NYC. But as far as I know, Mt Sinai takes all medicaid patients for trans-related surgeries. I'd highly suggest calling the Trans center at Mt Sinai and asking them further questions. I don't know anything about Jersey health insurance or NJ Medicaid. I only know NYC...& all this is very new for this state.

Keep me posted & hopefully I can respond to private messages soon.

You where given the rules here (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,227504.msg2017680.html#msg2017680) and somewhere in them you will discover you need 15 quality posts before features like profile and PM unlock. More features come at higher post counts but 15 is the magic number for most of them.

Quote from: transnomad on October 20, 2017, 05:41:48 PM
@JHeron

Thanks for your message. It's so odd...but I'm unable to reply to any private messages??? Is this because I'm new? I checked all my settings & logged on/off a few times. There's no "reply" button anywhere.

Perhaps you guys know what I can do.

Anyhow, I have Health First Medicaid here in NYC. But as far as I know, Mt Sinai takes all medicaid patients for trans-related surgeries. I'd highly suggest calling the Trans center at Mt Sinai and asking them further questions. I don't know anything about Jersey health insurance or NJ Medicaid. I only know NYC...& all this is very new for this state.

Keep me posted & hopefully I can respond to private messages soon.

Oh wow that's great to hear, maybe their Dept. can help my Medicaid company jump through the necessary hoops. Appreciate the response   :D  and best of luck in Jan.

How many phases is the process with Dr. Ting? Is there a UL?

Had my intake appointment with Dr. Ting's team at Mt. Sinai yesterday so I thought I'd revive this thread. His new technique is very interesting and if possible for me would be awesome. The idea of having a penis made of my own genital skin and tissue is phenomenal. The amount of sensation is unimaginable. Immediate feeling from base to tip. Ting can do glansplasty and UL too.

3 stages with only one that requires a hospital stay if I heard correctly. Stage 1 is just making the incisions so you go home same day (I think) with stitches tracing the tissue that will be used. This allows important blood flow to the area. Stage 2 is construction of the phallus, vaginectomy, scrotoplasty, and UL. It's a beast though! 4 weeks you have to stay in the NYC area! A direct quote is 100% chance of a fistula so they want you close to fix stuff asap. Stage 3 would be glansplasty.

A piece of abdominal muscle is used inside of the phallus so that is why you may not need an erectile implant. However you can still opt for one if you choose. Probably adds a 4th stage. He does not offer MLD which sucks because that is what I really want.

I live about 2.5 hours from NY so staying there for 4 weeks would be a bitch. They release patients to a nursing care facility if insurance covers it. That would be the only way i could make it work. Also the electrolysis appointments being in NY twice a month would be inconvenient as all hell. Anyway I hope to meet Ting no later than February and i will bring back more deets.

Hey, I wonder how long was the process of getting to Dr Ting was? I spoke to someone from the dept that told me  there's a meeting with a social worker, psych eval, physical, and i forget how ever many other appts before getting an eval with the Dr. Sounded pretty extensive so I'm curious.

Ps. There's a fb group dedicated to his procedure - he himself is a moderator on it and from what I've read though some movement and feeling in the phallus is certain he never says whether it''' be enough for any kind of penetration. Did he say otherwise during your time together? (that would crazy amazing)

Thanks for writing about that! I've been seeing a lot about Dr. Ting's technique recently and I'm curious to learn more. I'd love any further updates once you see him.

Quote from: JHeron on November 04, 2017, 06:21:02 PM
Hey, I wonder how long was the process of getting to Dr Ting was? I spoke to someone from the dept that told me  there's a meeting with a social worker, psych eval, physical, and i forget how ever many other appts before getting an eval with the Dr. Sounded pretty extensive so I'm curious.

Ps. There's a fb group dedicated to his procedure - he himself is a moderator on it and from what I've read though some movement and feeling in the phallus is certain he never says whether it''' be enough for any kind of penetration. Did he say otherwise during your time together? (that would crazy amazing)

I booked the intake I just had back in early September. Because i am from out of town they made sure to schedule all 3 appointments in one day for me, back to back. If you want to separate them you can probably get in sooner. I met with his Nurse Practitioner, a social worker and the psychiatrist. They come together as a team at the end of the week I guess to tall about each case and recommend who is ready for surgery. Once you are forwarded to Ting they contact you to see him. I've been told that appointment will most likely not be until February. I have not heard from thw team yet. It has been a week. For me that may be because they are waiting to talk to my oncologist first so for others it could be sooner.

To be honest all 3 meetings lasted maybe 10 minutes a piece for me. But I'm in my mid 30s, established, and independent with no major mental or emotional issues so I tend to get that at these consultations a lot.

Ilm going to be blunt.  I'm really interested in everything, and I'd love to see pics and whatnot of everything.

Is it possible to post links of everything you all are talking about?  I'd love to see relevant pics in order to make my own descisions on what I might want to do in the future.

Thanks so much!

Ryiuchi

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Quote from: Ryuichi13 on November 15, 2017, 01:49:39 AM
Ilm going to be blunt.  I'm really interested in everything, and I'd love to see pics and whatnot of everything.

Is it possible to post links of everything you all are talking about?  I'd love to see relevant pics in order to make my own descisions on what I might want to do in the future.

Thanks so much!

Ryiuchi

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I was shown the same pic I've seen on Transbucket. It is no longer there. I've been told Ting is active in a FB group and that's where to go but I don't do Social Media, besides this. When I meet with him I will be sure to get at least a sketch of the incisions and whatnot.

Not sure if I mentioned this but the Ting procedure has only been performed on 5 guys.

Quote from: CMD042414 on November 15, 2017, 05:57:08 PM
I was shown the same pic I've seen on Transbucket. It is no longer there. I've been told Ting is active in a FB group and that's where to go but I don't do Social Media, besides this. When I meet with him I will be sure to get at least a sketch of the incisions and whatnot.

Not sure if I mentioned this but the Ting procedure has only been performed on 5 guys.

Even a sketch is better than nothing.  Thanks!

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Can anyone tell me what the FB group is called? I can find Dr.ting, but no groups. Thanks.

Quote from: Pao on December 15, 2017, 10:41:32 AM
Can anyone tell me what the FB group is called? I can find Dr.ting, but no groups. Thanks.

I've been wondering this too.

Message me if you guys want the link. I'm not sure if posting it on here is up to the guidelines..

I'm really excited to hear about this new technique. Not so excited it depends on existing tissue because, well, I don't have a lot down there (which is why I'm not seriously considering meta). Dunno if someone could explain better?

RFF seems to be super popular right now but my feeling about taking skin from that site is a giant NOPE!!

I'd like more info on the testicles as well. I've wanted implants since I heard about them--is there a reason being squishy like a baby's scrotum is supposed to be better? Are the implants just hard to live with or something?

Join the FB group if you can. They have been adding a lot of info in the files section. Read those first before submitting new questions. If you go on transbucket and look under phallo procedures you will see the photo. It also has a link to the FB group under it, if you click on the photo.

If it is helpful I am meeting with Dr. Bluebond-Langner next month to chat about my August stage 1 and I will report back. She is reworking my staging so I will post both options with some details for those that are looking for all of the info they can find. By options I mean her standard order of procedures and the rearrangement of mine.

Apologize it's been such a long time guys. I've had a long list of pre-surgical meetings, checkups, requirements, etc. But everything cleared including my insurance. I'm so beyond relieved, excited, & happy. Most of all -- I'm ready!

My phalloplasty surgery with Dr. Ting is next Wed, Jan 31st!!!

I've met with him & his team numerous times...have seen lots of photographs & have never been more confident using Dr. Ting. In my opinion, he's figured out the best new phalloplasty procedure available today. Again, just my research & my personal opinion.

My surgery will be 7 hours long on the 31st, followed by 6-7 days in the hospital, followed by 3-4 weeks in a recovery center/hospital here in Manhattan. I was thrilled to hear that! As of now, with my body... Dr. Ting is planning to do 90-95% on the 31st. Of course follow up revisions & possible urethra issues will most likely occur. But as of now, I'm only scheduled for 1 procedure. I've met with everyone on the surgical team...that will be there for my surgery including Dr. Rodriguez who preformed my hysto & was probably the best doctor I've ever had. I feel really confident, but of course realistic about my surgery. A lot can happen during surgery but I feel great about the choice I made & ultimately it's the finished "look" that I always dreamt of.

Feel free to reach out to me during my recovery. I'll try to update everyone post surgery.

Wish me luck.... much love guys & thanks for all your support/input! It's a long struggle to get here but once you do... feels so good.

transnomad, what all will be done at his time, in 7 hrs I expect you will have several procedures.  I know that many dr have been combining procedures so you need less total hospitalizations which is great for recoverying.

Can I ask what insurance you have? I'm intrigued by the recovery center approval.

Quote from: transnomad on January 25, 2018, 09:20:36 PM
Apologize it's been such a long time guys. I've had a long list of pre-surgical meetings, checkups, requirements, etc. But everything cleared including my insurance. I'm so beyond relieved, excited, & happy. Most of all -- I'm ready!

My phalloplasty surgery with Dr. Ting is next Wed, Jan 31st!!!

I've met with him & his team numerous times...have seen lots of photographs & have never been more confident using Dr. Ting. In my opinion, he's figured out the best new phalloplasty procedure available today. Again, just my research & my personal opinion.

My surgery will be 7 hours long on the 31st, followed by 6-7 days in the hospital, followed by 3-4 weeks in a recovery center/hospital here in Manhattan. I was thrilled to hear that! As of now, with my body... Dr. Ting is planning to do 90-95% on the 31st. Of course follow up revisions & possible urethra issues will most likely occur. But as of now, I'm only scheduled for 1 procedure. I've met with everyone on the surgical team...that will be there for my surgery including Dr. Rodriguez who preformed my hysto & was probably the best doctor I've ever had. I feel really confident, but of course realistic about my surgery. A lot can happen during surgery but I feel great about the choice I made & ultimately it's the finished "look" that I always dreamt of.

Feel free to reach out to me during my recovery. I'll try to update everyone post surgery.

Wish me luck.... much love guys & thanks for all your support/input! It's a long struggle to get here but once you do... feels so good.

Good luck to you on this endeavor, transnomad!  NYU/ Dr BL was my second choice, and I found Dr Miro through the Mt Sinai team as he is an adjunct Professor in their program (he teaches all over the world in between surgeries—quite the Energizer bunny).   As BL does not like to combine hysto w/ Stage 1 Phallo (among many other reasons—among them, MLD experience), I opted for the amazing Serbian team of Dr Miroslav Djordjevic.  I'm exactly 14 days post-op from Stage 1 and am on the mend.  Foley cath still in, but will likely come out tomorrow.  What an incredible 14 days since sx on 1/16.

I re-read this thread and understand you're having yours covered 100% by NY Medicaid; count yourself lucky.  I could have worked my EXCELLUS insurance with BL/NYU as "out of area but in network" but honestly——the cost of the Stage 1 sx (even with travel, excluding the separate hospitalization for hysto) is about 5 times the cost of my Stage 1.  Not to mention the bureaucracy at NYU—-I'm 54 and ready to get a move on!  ; )

In re-reading this thread that started in August, I realize you're the one who was positive on the new Ting procedure, so absolutely—would love to follow and stay caught up on your recovery.  In a perfect world, we could use more of that abdominal tissue right there where it needs to be (incl some muscle; much of the reason I like MLD) and do less damage to other areas of the body.  RFF was never an option for me as I honestly am horrified by the stories of recovery, rehab, complications etal—-regarding the arm.  As a musician and jock—there's no way I could tolerate loss of function in either of my hands!  I'm right handed predominantly, but mostly ambidextrous.  It's tough enough dealing with having my non-dominant side just under the armpit—stitched up, as it impacts range of motion a bit.  But—-I chose a small phallus (big enough for ED) in hopes of avoiding the necessity of requiring grafts for closure.  They hit a homerun with mine.  A few months of lymphatic massage I believe will have me back to normal.

Please keep us posted on your endeavors, as I may opt to stay state side for subsequent stages—we'll see how recovery goes.  We all know that you will likely be out of commission for some days immediately post-op, but we hope you will circle back to up date us.  I'd also, as a fellow new phallo guy—like to stay in touch with you as you're in my home state (of NY).

Good luck to you, and Godspeed on this difficult first stage!!!




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It sounds like good things are happening for some of you, congratulations!  I am myself scheduled for surgery soon, but have only recently started encountering information about Dr. Jess Ting, and I want to make sure I have thoroughly investigated all the options.

Since newbies cannot send messages, and no one can post the Facebook link to Dr. Ting's group on the procedure, could anyone here message me the link?  I have been hunting all over and even called the office, but have not gotten the information yet.

I apologize for the begging, I cannot think of any more options.

Quote from: transnomad on January 25, 2018, 09:20:36 PM
Apologize it's been such a long time guys. I've had a long list of pre-surgical meetings, checkups, requirements, etc. But everything cleared including my insurance. I'm so beyond relieved, excited, & happy. Most of all -- I'm ready!

My phalloplasty surgery with Dr. Ting is next Wed, Jan 31st!!!

I've met with him & his team numerous times...have seen lots of photographs & have never been more confident using Dr. Ting. In my opinion, he's figured out the best new phalloplasty procedure available today. Again, just my research & my personal opinion.

My surgery will be 7 hours long on the 31st, followed by 6-7 days in the hospital, followed by 3-4 weeks in a recovery center/hospital here in Manhattan. I was thrilled to hear that! As of now, with my body... Dr. Ting is planning to do 90-95% on the 31st. Of course follow up revisions & possible urethra issues will most likely occur. But as of now, I'm only scheduled for 1 procedure. I've met with everyone on the surgical team...that will be there for my surgery including Dr. Rodriguez who preformed my hysto & was probably the best doctor I've ever had. I feel really confident, but of course realistic about my surgery. A lot can happen during surgery but I feel great about the choice I made & ultimately it's the finished "look" that I always dreamt of.

Feel free to reach out to me during my recovery. I'll try to update everyone post surgery.

Wish me luck.... much love guys & thanks for all your support/input! It's a long struggle to get here but once you do... feels so good.

Dear transnomad,

thank you so much for sharing   your journey with us!
I  really hope, your surgery was a success and you are recovering well.

I am on my way to phalloplasty, too, I also have an appointment for a first surgery (out of 4 or 5, if everything goes well). I'm really excited about this new technique of Dr. Ting and their team. I just heard about it recently and read through this thread, saw the pic on transbucket and am going to find the fb-group.

I'd really love to get in contact with you and other guys, who had or is going to get operated by this team. Not only I would like to know, if I myself made the right decision for me (RFF), but I would also like to spread the word about this new method, so that more people get informed.

I live in Germany and have a Russian YouTube channel. So, I would make some videos in both languages and sub them in English.

So, transnomad, I would really appreciate, if you could write me an email (PMs wouldn't work for me yet) to forb.symbATgmaildotcom

I'll really be happy, if anyone, who has some more information and would answer my questions about this procedure, will write.

Thanx in advance!

Let's share this valuable information!

My channel on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPxIVoJTsmiBYfg1dVnLZEQ

Quote from: alteredego on February 01, 2018, 01:16:53 PM
It sounds like good things are happening for some of you, congratulations!  I am myself scheduled for surgery soon, but have only recently started encountering information about Dr. Jess Ting, and I want to make sure I have thoroughly investigated all the options.

Since newbies cannot send messages, and no one can post the Facebook link to Dr. Ting's group on the procedure, could anyone here message me the link?  I have been hunting all over and even called the office, but have not gotten the information yet.

I apologize for the begging, I cannot think of any more options.

Hi and welcome to the site.

It does not look like you received an official greeting, so here goes. I want to share some links with you. They are mostly starting up, welcome and rules.

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Once again, welcome to Susan's. Look around, ask questions and join in.

With warmth,

Jacqui

Since I cannot yet reply to private messages, etc.:

JHeron - Thank you for the link!  There really is a wealth of information on the group for Dr. Ting's procedure; I am surprised to see a surgeon at this level of active engagement.

Jacqui - Thank you for the welcome, I looked through all the information.  I have been to this site often, but not as a registered user.  I appreciate the environment for discussion and sharing of information that is provided.


I am looking forward to hearing how your experiences have gone, to those of you who have/are approaching surgery, if you are comfortable sharing.  Thank you for including the detail you have already.

@alteredego no worries! Happy to spread the word, honestly the visual result on Tbucket coupled with Dr T's innovation - the informative Mt Sinai website and the FB group made me 1000% sure I'm going to get in line for this one (and this coming from someone who was all for Dr Crane/Chen since it was the Brownstein practice). I think the fact that it's his own method makes him particularly interested in connecting with his target demo so he can modify things if need be according to the demands of the community. It's really mind-blowing..  I didn't think something like this could be possible for another couple of years  ;D

Has anyone here got regular RFF phalloplasty from Dr.ting .. I'm was undecided between alt with Dr.bluebond and rff with Dr.ting because I really want alt but I could settle with rff if I can get the size I want or close to it and still have reason able girth since it would be easy to go with Dr.ting being he's in the same building as my endocrinologist .. Going with Dr.bluebond would require me to transfer medical records over too a new building and travel there instead and plus alt will have more stages to it and she doesn't do hysto in stage one , so those are the down sides that are making me go more towards Dr.ting.

Hi guys, I'm back! Looks like I still can't reply to private messages. My surgery was on Jan 31st so I've been in recovery since. My surgery was 14 hours long! Dr Ting spent a lot of time working on my penis & he's really into fine details. All went well but I won't lie, it felt like I was hit by a bus! Waking up was the most painful experience. But he did everything I requested all in one surgery! I can go into more details if needed just in a lot of pain today. I stayed in the hospital for 7 days, then I went to a recovery center to heal & receive physical therapy for 2 more weeks. I can't imagine all the guys who go directly home post surgery! Ouch! I couldn't even walk for 15 days. The recovery center was awesome. Then I was released & went home to my girlfriend's apt in Brookkyn. I've been recovering ever since. Some good days, some bad days. Another amazing thing is they offer free post recovery nursing care! So they assembled a team for me... 3 people (a nurse, an aid, & a physical therapist) to help me recover at home for another month. I'm so thankful! All this is covered for free! I'm honestly shocked. I'd say all this would have been well over $100k of treatment and care. I have Health First Medicaid. To meet these requirements I've had to live below poverty line for well over 2 years. My girlfriend obviously has the $...& I couldn't have lived in NYC without her help! It would have been impossible. I will be setting up photos on trabsbucket soon to help other guys out. I love the way my penis looks & it's slowly healing. I've had 2 small erections from kissing my girlfriend & that was shocking! My penis just bulges a little but we were amazed. I called Dr Ting right away. The most difficult aspects are the catheter & all the nerve/muscle spasms. Nerves are re-connecting so there's constant pain. But that's actually important. If there was no pain, I'd be in trouble. My pain is 24/7 even with meds. I want to be as real & honest with you guys... this is not an easy recovery! My girlfriend honestly helps me 24/7. I can barely shower...I can still barely walk... I need help all the time. You have days where you cry & days where you smile. It's a rollercoaster. I'm having a rough day today but I do want to explain the catheter/bladder/urethra issues further. It's very important as I was rushed to the ER a few days ago due to a misplaced catheter & extremely painful bladder spasms!! I want to explain more but too exhausted at the moment...still healing. Just know Dr Ting is an amazing surgeon & I 100% think he's the best phalloplasty surgeon in the US. I know that seems very bold to say but I wish I could just show you guys... visually. I'd never go through the traditional Phalloplasty methods at all. And no, he doesn't perform them. He only does his new technique using the labia.

May I ask what length and girth you received, I know it probably depends on anatomy but I just want to get a feel for what I may have a chance at getting. Also you really got an erection on your own? That's amazing! And when you say you got everything done in one do you mean hysto too and scrotom ?? :)

Dude that's amazing to hear, congrats on your result either way - pain aside seems you're really happy with the aesthetic and sensory result so that's fantastic. Did you ever talk to the Dr Ting about the skenes gland option? I asked him in the fb group and he said he leaves it intact, heard of any post op guys from him being able to "cum" so to speak?
By the way are you getting the glands done later on and does it really add on an extra inch? (I've heard it could)

My penis is still swollen so unfortunately I can't give you a final exact size - but right now in bed, flaccid it's 4.5". This will change slightly as my penis continues to heal. It swells up after bathing or a hot shower... and of course, when sexually aroused.

It's far too early to see if I can "cum". My penis is far too fragile right now. But I'll keep you posted.

Note: I want to be very clear about these early "erections" - they are small but noticeable. After making out with my girlfriend the bulge in my underwear changed quite a bit. I'd describe it more as a bulge at the base (where my clit is hidden under) but I was pumped! The reason this happens is he selects 3 very important muscles (2 from my legs & 1 from my abs) that adjust, increase blood flow, and replicate a semi-erection based on initial patients & trials. All I can say, it was a very awesome moment for me.

I had my hysterectomy this past July with Dr Rodriguez at Mt Sinai. I chose to do the procedures separate — but I believe you can do everything at once. Dr Rodriguez was at my phalloplasty procedure to seal up all remaining "female" parts.

Not sure if I mentioned before, but I'll have a 2nd surgery in July/Aug to make certain corrections. Dr Ting initially places your urethra hole on the side of your penis so it can drain properly without fear of infection. If a surgeon places the hole on top, right away... there's a higher risk of bacterial infections. So he'll re-position the hole, remove the catheter (hopefully), & surgically improve the aesthetic of everything else.

So yes I had a vaginectomy, urethroplasty, scrotoplasty, glansplasty all at once.
Later upon healing Dr Ting & I will discuss what else could be done such as erection devices, etc. But as of now he's seeing great results utilizing these muscles, especially in the abdomen.

Oh okay and that's pretty awesome , did he tell you what size you may end up with as a result during your consultant by checking your body though? And keep us updated on if you will post on transbucket , I'd love to see his work

There's a few factors regarding penis size & how Dr Ting works. First his goal is to create a phallus that compliments the size & frame of your body. Personally I didn't want a HUGE penis & am really confused why so many trans guys are fixated on this. Not saying you are... just stating my feelings. I've been with a lot of women & too large is a turn-off for many... not my thing. So it's obviously your life & penis — but I think it should fit your body. Since he uses the labia to construct your phallus - if you have little skin there, probably Dr Ting wouldn't be a good choice? You'd need a consultation to discuss. I'm personally pumped with the size he gave me & it's the largest I'd ever go. My girlfriend is already worried it will be too big for her :(

I mainly want 5 the least but not cause my gf. She can't cum from penetration anyway so its for my want. But I'm still confused how he uses the labia

If 5" is your goal - you'd definitely need to discuss & meet with Dr Ting... to specifically tell him your goals. Without question, you'd get the largest penis from the traditional phalloplasty utilizing the thigh. Personally I didn't want large skin grafts & possibly a year of 3 surgeries & a lot of pain. It's too much for me honestly. That's not to say Dr Ting couldn't create a 5-6" flaccid penis... it just all depends on your skin down there. Yeah I have a drawing of how he does it... I can't believe he created what he did from my labia skin. Best idea is to reach out to Mt Sinai / trans center & get signed up to start meeting the team & then Dr Ting. The sooner you do it...the better.

I'm a patient with mount Sinai already, just working on getting my referral letters first. And is there a way to send me the drawing? If you can email it to me at funtaishacarden@gmail.com

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And is there a way to send me the drawing? If you can email it to me at funtaishacarden@gmail.com

Is there any pozsibility of posting those drawings on transbucket?  I'd love to see them too.  Thanks!

Ryuichi


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Hey Transnomad, I'm considering moving to NY for the healthcare and on the webpage there's a ton of them ranging from "Essential Plan", "Total EPO plan", "Leaf Plans" if you don't mind my asking which one do you specifically have?

JHeron: I have Health First Medicaid. I received help through NYC's LGBTQ health center: Callen-Lorde. They've helped me throughout every step, for over 3 years. I suggest visiting them, getting signed up & then work directly with a case worker to choose the best plan based on your income & situation. For everything to be covered 100%... (like in my case) you need to prove quite a bit... especially that you earn approx $14k a year max which is below poverty line here in NYC. You need to show your taxes from the previous year as well. But having a case worker helps so much. Ultimately I could not have had all my surgeries without the help of my girlfriend & Callen-Lorde.

I've been meaning to post on Trans-Bucket... just been in bed recovering from that recent hospital emergency/catheter mistake. Once I feel better, I'll definitely post. I know you're all waiting.

Hi!

It looks like the photo from Dr. Ting was taken off transbucket, would someone be willing to pm me the FB link? I'd like to find out a lot more about this surgery.

Thanks!

If you look up , ftm surgery support group-ting phallo , on facebook you should be able to find the group