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Greetings, my brothers and sisters.

I have a question that I am deeply concerned about that I hope someone here can answer from personal experience.

I am currently on HRT; I've only been on estrogen for a couple weeks now and I've been on spironolactone for over a month. I am also a smoker (I do smoke pot, but I am referring to cigarettes).

My question is this: I was told by another TG woman that nicotine greatly reduces the effects of hormones; is this true?

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I don't know about reducing estrogen levels but it increases the risk of blood clots while your on hrt. I know people have problems quitting but putting a gun to your head is a much faster and way less painful way to kill yourself. No offense to smokers,  I'm just saying.
Julia

My E prescription has warning labels on it not to smoke while taking it.  The risk is blood clots ( = strokes or heart attacks).  Your doctor should have warned you about this.

I would strongly suggest giving up smoking. From a woman who breathes through a hole in her neck.

In addition to he health concerns, smoking will age your skin much faster than normal. To keep your face looking as young as possible, quite smoking and use sun screen when in bright sunlight.

And also people who smoke smell like...really bad.
Julia

You will feel much better if you give up smoking. I know there are many that will say vaping is just as bad, but I switched to vaping 2 1/2 years ago, and feel tons better. You could even ween yourself down to 0 mg of nicotine. All that stuff that coats your lungs will mess you up, especially the tar. It also effects your immune system.

Quote from: Julia1996 on August 23, 2017, 06:51:05 PM
And also people who smoke smell like...really bad.
Julia

Smokers have no idea how bad they smell because they are nose blind and cannot smell burnt tobacco the way non-smokers do.

Cigarettes are the debil in my opinion. I quit when my friend lost his eyesight due to smoking.

It's your life though, but I had like a whole life review at that moment... I wasn't a heavy smoker or anything.

The nicotine... I don't know about, but I chew nicotine gum to suppress my hunger.

Yup, quit. There's no up side to continuing smoking. The costs of cigarettes alone should be motivation... it'll nearly pay for your meds. Clots are bad juju. Bad for your teeth, bad for lungs, bad odor, stains your hands, burns your clothes, makes perfume obsolete, in the states it's banned almost everywhere... the list goes on. I quit after 18 years of smoking off and on. My endocrinologist threatened to stop my hormones if she thought I was smoking at all, after that first day of stress smoking that is....

Let me answer the question you asked. So in my experience smoking has no effect on my development. Some things growing faster than I would like. But as you will be told a lot your mileage may differ. Also if your on pills ask your doctor if you can get injections or pellets. Pills are more dangerous and you have to check things more often. AND everybody already knows they stink and it's bad for them. They don't need to be made to feel worse when asking a question. I am on chantix and trying to quit. It's hard enough to quit when things are not stressing you out. But to be told what we already know and probably don't like about ourselves, it adds stress. Being trans is already stressful enough don't need more added on. Shame. Shame. Advice is good but some of these are more than advice and just wrong.


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Quote from: Norma Lynne on August 25, 2017, 02:46:35 AM
Let me answer the question you asked. So in my experience smoking has no effect on my development. Some things growing faster than I would like. But as you will be told a lot your mileage may differ. Also if your on pills ask your doctor if you can get injections or pellets. Pills are more dangerous and you have to check things more often. AND everybody already knows they stink and it's bad for them. They don't need to be made to feel worse when asking a question. I am on chantix and trying to quit. It's hard enough to quit when things are not stressing you out. But to be told what we already know and probably don't like about ourselves, it adds stress. Being trans is already stressful enough don't need more added on. Shame. Shame. Advice is good but some of these are more than advice and just wrong.


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Thank you for that answer.

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Quote from: TheDarkQueenEmily on August 25, 2017, 10:39:20 AM
Thank you for that answer.

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You are welcome. If you need to talk or anything else. Just message me.


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First, if you're a smoker, make sure you're using the estrogen patches.

Second, there aren't any studies that investigates the long term effects of cigarettes on feminization, so one can only speculate, but I would say that anything that subtracts from ideal physical health will slow down the effects of hormones. Everything the body does starts with oxygen after all.

I am a regular light cigarette smoker (between 3 and 5 a day), I do from time to time do smoke a little pot and have a drag or two on my husbands cigars.

in my experience, it had little effect on my feminine development. I managed to get D cup breasts, my skin feminized well and I got good fat redistribution to my hips.

I know smoking is not good for me, and I know I am addicted.. You need the will power to stop, which I dont have. Most of my family smokes, my mother, step father and my 2 of my 3 step siblings. I enjoy the mother daughter bonding I have with my mother over a smoke..

All of the people involved in my transition (therapist, general doctor and endocrinologist) told me to avoid cigarettes because it could cause thrombosis and heart failure. I was never a heavy smoker, only did it socially when I was drinking, but I quit altogether in May.


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Quote from: Julia1996 on August 23, 2017, 06:51:05 PM
And also people who smoke smell like...really bad.
Julia

You mean like astray.

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Quote from: luanneph on November 13, 2017, 08:46:04 AM
You mean like astray.

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OMG!! And you don't realize how bad you stunk until you quit. We quit about 2 months ago. And I had cut way down to like 2-3 at the most a day if any. But this guy sat next to us at the Wallflowers concert last night and I could not take it. It was so bad. Took me a minute to figure out what the stink was. Talk about something that you can remember to keep you from ever doing that nasty crap again.


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Quote from: Norma Lynne on November 13, 2017, 10:39:36 PM
OMG!! And you don't realize how bad you stunk until you quit. We quit about 2 months ago. And I had cut way down to like 2-3 at the most a day if any. But this guy sat next to us at the Wallflowers concert last night and I could not take it. It was so bad. Took me a minute to figure out what the stink was. Talk about something that you can remember to keep you from ever doing that nasty crap again.


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Before he quit my dad didn't notice the smoke/ashtray odor. But since he's quit he can smell it a mile away. He always kisses me on the top of my head and before he quit smoking when he did that that awful ashtray smell would fall over me like a cloud. I never told him though because I didn't want to hurt his feelings. I've never dated anyone who smoked but I can't imagine mouth kissing a smoker! That would be a deal breaker for me. And I am not ragging on smokers. I know how hard it is to quit. I went through it with my dad. Talk about a bad mood! He turned into a Dick before he started using the nicotine patches.

Im fairly certain that the risks for mixing hrt and smoking have more to do with inhaling burnt plant matter than an interaction with the drug nicotine itself.  Nicotine has many benefits, and many other delivery systems than just smoking.  Im rather partial to transdermal

Quote from: extraaction on November 14, 2017, 07:37:34 AM
Im fairly certain that the risks for mixing hrt and smoking have more to do with inhaling burnt plant matter than an interaction with the drug nicotine itself.  Nicotine has many benefits, and many other delivery systems than just smoking.  Im rather partial to transdermal

After reading this discussion now I'm just smoke free.

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I quit smoking long ago, but I still use nicotine for cognitive gains and to ward off schizophrenia symptoms and to ward off dimentia.  I use insufflated and transdermal nicotine frequently.  The propaganda thats been spread gives a powerful medicinal drug a bad name, but there is a huge precedent for medicinal nicotine.