News and Events => Political and Legal News => Topic started by: SadieBlake on August 24, 2017, 02:33:21 AM Return to Full Version
Title: White House to brief Pentagon on transgender ban
Post by: SadieBlake on August 24, 2017, 02:33:21 AM
Post by: SadieBlake on August 24, 2017, 02:33:21 AM
https://www.google.com/amp/thehill.com/policy/defense/347738-wh-to-issue-guidance-on-transgender-military-ban-in-coming-days-report%3famp
The Wall Street Journal reported Wednesday that a White House memo will direct the Defense Department on details related to Trump's intention to bar transgender people from being admitted to the military.
Under the new policy, Defense Secretary James Mattis would have to consider a service member's ability to deploy in deciding whether to remove them from the military
The Hill/ By Max Greenwood 08/23/2017
The Wall Street Journal reported Wednesday that a White House memo will direct the Defense Department on details related to Trump's intention to bar transgender people from being admitted to the military.
Under the new policy, Defense Secretary James Mattis would have to consider a service member's ability to deploy in deciding whether to remove them from the military
The Hill/ By Max Greenwood 08/23/2017
Title: Re: White House to brief Pentagon on transgender ban
Post by: Deborah on August 24, 2017, 04:32:15 AM
Post by: Deborah on August 24, 2017, 04:32:15 AM
Soldiers might be undeployable for a number of different reasons. Under this logic they should be removed too.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
< Let us not paint everyone who has a political belief with one brush please
Cindy>
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
< Let us not paint everyone who has a political belief with one brush please
Cindy>
Title: Re: White House to brief Pentagon on transgender ban
Post by: Dee Marshall on August 24, 2017, 06:22:10 AM
Post by: Dee Marshall on August 24, 2017, 06:22:10 AM
Mattis personally? That's an awful amount of detail to be involved in at his level!
:
April 22, 2015, the day of my first face to face pass in gender neutral clothes and no makeup. It may be months to the next one, but I'm good with that!
Being transgender is just a phase. It hardly ever starts before conception and always ends promptly at death.
They say the light at the end of the tunnel is an oncoming train. I say, climb aboard!
Think outside the voice box!
:
April 22, 2015, the day of my first face to face pass in gender neutral clothes and no makeup. It may be months to the next one, but I'm good with that!
Being transgender is just a phase. It hardly ever starts before conception and always ends promptly at death.
They say the light at the end of the tunnel is an oncoming train. I say, climb aboard!
Think outside the voice box!
Title: Re: White House to brief Pentagon on transgender ban
Post by: stephaniec on August 24, 2017, 01:24:00 PM
Post by: stephaniec on August 24, 2017, 01:24:00 PM
http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2017/08/24/donald-trumps-white-house-ready-to-brief-pentagon-on-enforcing-transgender-troops-ban/
Pink News/by Benjamin Butterworth. 08/24/2017
Pink News/by Benjamin Butterworth. 08/24/2017
Title: Re: White House to brief Pentagon on transgender ban
Post by: KittyKat on August 25, 2017, 12:10:59 AM
Post by: KittyKat on August 25, 2017, 12:10:59 AM
The way I'm reading this, the only person with the power to dismiss someone for being transgender is Defense Secretary James Mattis. While anyone having that power is honestly for all intents, bad, with the way the military works this would mean almost no current trans service members would be removed. I say this based on the fact that the paper work is unlikely to ever be filled out, and if it was anyone in a long chain could stop it by denying the paper work. It would have to go through several commanders, company, battalion, brigade, and garrison to even be sent to DC and make its way to Mattis. Any service members in right now most likely would be able to continue serving.
The main issue would be if MEPS can deny someone entry, or are they still allowed to let new soldiers in? I also don't see any language stating the Military would stop treating Gender Dysphoria. I can only hope that the way I interrupt this is correct, and that is it appears Military advisors are trying to appease Trump while keeping the ability to let trans individuals serve.
The main issue would be if MEPS can deny someone entry, or are they still allowed to let new soldiers in? I also don't see any language stating the Military would stop treating Gender Dysphoria. I can only hope that the way I interrupt this is correct, and that is it appears Military advisors are trying to appease Trump while keeping the ability to let trans individuals serve.
Title: Re: White House to brief Pentagon on transgender ban
Post by: JulieOnHerWay on August 25, 2017, 12:29:22 AM
Post by: JulieOnHerWay on August 25, 2017, 12:29:22 AM
KittyKat has it right, I think.
The CIC is a full-on idiot that is pandering to his most debased base. You know, those that hate anything progressive or inclusive or Obama. Remember he told Caitlyn Jenner she was welcome to use any bathroom in trump tower she wanted? Now this. Another reversal.
His silly directive will cause huge headaches for the top brass. Divert their attention from readiness. For what reason? To review every openly TG that is active duty right now. Most of them, the military wants to stay. But the Cheetos Prez has to pander. So off we go. Down his deluded mandate. Giving aid and comfort to our enemies by presidential proclamation.
There is that out for the SecDef. He can keep the good ones, which is most if not all. And for what? Just beyond belief. What has my country begat?
The CIC is a full-on idiot that is pandering to his most debased base. You know, those that hate anything progressive or inclusive or Obama. Remember he told Caitlyn Jenner she was welcome to use any bathroom in trump tower she wanted? Now this. Another reversal.
His silly directive will cause huge headaches for the top brass. Divert their attention from readiness. For what reason? To review every openly TG that is active duty right now. Most of them, the military wants to stay. But the Cheetos Prez has to pander. So off we go. Down his deluded mandate. Giving aid and comfort to our enemies by presidential proclamation.
There is that out for the SecDef. He can keep the good ones, which is most if not all. And for what? Just beyond belief. What has my country begat?
Title: Re: White House to brief Pentagon on transgender ban
Post by: SadieBlake on August 25, 2017, 04:38:11 AM
Post by: SadieBlake on August 25, 2017, 04:38:11 AM
According to CNN via WSJ
So yes it's bad.
Quote
The memo also instructs the Pentagon to stop paying for transgender troops' medical treatment regimens, the officials told the paper.
So yes it's bad.
Title: Re: White House to brief Pentagon on transgender ban
Post by: RobynD on August 25, 2017, 01:14:27 PM
Post by: RobynD on August 25, 2017, 01:14:27 PM
It will be interesting to see how this horrific violation of human rights will be implemented and since it has been said most if not all of the generals disagree with their non esteemed commander in chief, Perhaps they will drag their feet and do almost nothing for the existing troops.
Recruiting is the saddest part. Its like going back to the "don't ask, don't tell" for some and for others it will be impossible.
Make no mistake, this is an effort to appease organizations and individuals that do not want us to progress or enjoy the same rights that they do in this society. These attempts to regress also cause people to die directly.
Recruiting is the saddest part. Its like going back to the "don't ask, don't tell" for some and for others it will be impossible.
Make no mistake, this is an effort to appease organizations and individuals that do not want us to progress or enjoy the same rights that they do in this society. These attempts to regress also cause people to die directly.