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Title: Not ready for the breasts
Post by: Nora Kayte on August 30, 2017, 12:11:32 PM
And yes another boob post. Lol

I know I'm in the minority. But not alone. But in the boob area in a year I am at a tanner 4 and no signs of stopping. I just had pellets re implanted. I go every 4-5 months. That usually kicks them in gear and I get some good growth. I have not transitioned socially and in real life only out to 3 people. My wife. The awesome lady who does my sugaring and Bari Jo. I am not sure how far I am going to go. I may never go all the way and bottom surgery is not going to be likely. 

I am mostly just saying what I am feeling not looking for the replies. But I don't know what I am going to do. I love having them. But do not want to have to explain them to everyone. I know the tricks to hiding them. Dark tops. Baggy tops. And etc.... I won't bind them. And wearing a bra makes the stand out more.

I know it's like any other stage for me. Just keep wearing the bra and eventually it will be second nature. Like getting my nails done. It was just one of those things that after a while it is just one of those things I did. My nails are very fem and no possible way to say I play the guitar or what ever excuse. When asked I just say been doing it for over 5 years and I just like having them done. Its part of what I do. It's like a habit.

So I guess wearing a bra and having breasts is just one of those stages that I have to get used to. And move on. Just sometimes I look in the mirror and say to my self. "Yup them there are some boobs. Can't deny it anymore! Now how do I pull this off"?

And no way I could use low dose. My mind did not feel correct until I was at full dose.

Any body else have some noticeable growth and plan to go slow like I am?


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Title: Re: Not ready for the breasts
Post by: Michelle G on August 30, 2017, 02:28:53 PM
I love my perky boobs and pretty much gave up on worrying about the glances from men or what people think on the rare occasion I run to the hardware store in boy mode so I get better service.

Just happy to be me 💕
Title: Re: Not ready for the breasts
Post by: Jin on September 01, 2017, 10:18:51 AM
If you got 'em, flaunt 'em!
Title: Re: Not ready for the breasts
Post by: Nora Kayte on September 01, 2017, 11:52:11 AM
It just seems every time I look in the mirror they are bigger. They are growing at an unexpected rate. They are sore again. I just got re implanted my pellets. Im not out and am not sure to handle this. I love my wife. But I have to move forward. I am scared.


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Title: Re: Not ready for the breasts
Post by: Talita on September 01, 2017, 01:15:57 PM
Hi
Please tell us what is a "tanner 4" ?

regards
Talita
Title: Re: Not ready for the breasts
Post by: itsApril on September 01, 2017, 01:24:13 PM
Quote from: Talita on September 01, 2017, 01:15:57 PM
Hi
Please tell us what is a "tanner 4" ?

regards
Talita

The "Tanner Scale" is a scale of development of secondary sex characteristics that's used by health professionals to describe the relative sexual maturity of patients.  Here's a link:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanner_scale
Title: Re: Not ready for the breasts
Post by: Talita on September 01, 2017, 01:42:29 PM
Thanks April, that explains it all.

regards
Talita
Title: Re: Not ready for the breasts
Post by: JoanneB on September 01, 2017, 07:19:20 PM
Call me silly... but if maybe having to explain your boobs is more important..... WHY?

Just what were you expecting to happen?

I have a barely B cup, to which I am thankful for. I still work and present primarily as male. The only person to make any noise about the boobs is my wife. Understandable I think. Barely a day goes by when I don't think about a BA. A C... Full C. Perfect.

I also made the choice between Low Dose HRT, my life safer for decades, and Full. I also was all too well aware of the ramifications after 2 failed transition experiments, a well ensconced "Male" life, a wife, BFF, soul-mate, and reality therapist, and a career I cannot believed I get paid to have fun at.

Which pain is Worse?
Title: Re: Not ready for the breasts
Post by: elkie-t on September 01, 2017, 07:29:15 PM
I don't know is it maybe local or what, but where I work I know 4 guys with boobs in the D-size range. Not transgender guys, cis-ones. Something is definitely in American food to make them grow, could be soy and fast food combination?

So, really, if they grow, just don't act all weirded out and no one would challenge you (too personal unless you're very close friends).


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Title: Re: Not ready for the breasts
Post by: gg on September 04, 2017, 04:37:33 AM
Quote from: Norma Lynne on August 30, 2017, 12:11:32 PM
And yes another boob post. Lol

I know I'm in the minority. But not alone. But in the boob area in a year I am at a tanner 4 and no signs of stopping. I just had pellets re implanted. I go every 4-5 months. That usually kicks them in gear and I get some good growth. I have not transitioned socially and in real life only out to 3 people. My wife. The awesome lady who does my sugaring and Bari Jo. I am not sure how far I am going to go. I may never go all the way and bottom surgery is not going to be likely. 

I am mostly just saying what I am feeling not looking for the replies. But I don't know what I am going to do. I love having them. But do not want to have to explain them to everyone. I know the tricks to hiding them. Dark tops. Baggy tops. And etc.... I won't bind them. And wearing a bra makes the stand out more.

I know it's like any other stage for me. Just keep wearing the bra and eventually it will be second nature. Like getting my nails done. It was just one of those things that after a while it is just one of those things I did. My nails are very fem and no possible way to say I play the guitar or what ever excuse. When asked I just say been doing it for over 5 years and I just like having them done. Its part of what I do. It's like a habit.

So I guess wearing a bra and having breasts is just one of those stages that I have to get used to. And move on. Just sometimes I look in the mirror and say to my self. "Yup them there are some boobs. Can't deny it anymore! Now how do I pull this off"?

And no way I could use low dose. My mind did not feel correct until I was at full dose.

Any body else have some noticeable growth and plan to go slow like I am?


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I'm in exactly that boat. I'm not living full time yet and my boobs are full C cup and perky. There's no way to hide them without a binder and dark, loose tops. In fact, even with a binder I have large mounds up there.

I also feel growth spurts too. I think they're still growing.

My plan was to let the hormones feminize my face and body as much as possible... and hopefully to the point that I couldn't pass as male, before going full time. Never in a million years did I imagine my breasts would take off like they did.

Just over two years ago I have no breasts. I only recently moved up to full dosages of estrogen (patches) and spiro. 

I plan on going full time as soon as I can make myself feel comfortable with my face, but for now I go out in guy mode and I have to bind my breasts to even begin to hide them.
Title: Re: Not ready for the breasts
Post by: LShipley on September 04, 2017, 06:54:06 AM
So i hid my growth for a year and then prior to coming out when i was a 34C i stopped wearing compression and stopped hiding it.

It was something i felt extremely self conscious about, but no one said anything when i was hiding them and no one said anything when i stopping hiding.

Title: Re: Not ready for the breasts
Post by: AnneK on September 04, 2017, 09:14:19 AM
I'd like to have larger breasts.  I currently wear a 38A bra.  Something like the upper right photo in this link or perhaps a bit larger appeals to me.

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Title: Re: Not ready for the breasts
Post by: Nora Kayte on September 04, 2017, 03:58:13 PM
Quote from: AnneK on September 04, 2017, 09:14:19 AM
I'd like to have larger breasts.  I currently wear a 38A bra.  Something like the upper right photo in this link or perhaps a bit larger appeals to me.

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I think I am getting close to a C cup. Or at least I look super close to what's in that picture in the upper right. And one of my bras that's fits so well almost perfect. The one bra I had that made me buy more hanes bras because it fit so good and was so comfy is a 38C. If I can remember I'll take a pic. But gotta go.


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Title: Re: Not ready for the breasts
Post by: gg on September 04, 2017, 04:03:20 PM
Are we allowed to post breast shots? Like, in a bra? 

I have some that I could share, though I'm not sure what the point would be, other than I'm super proud and excited how they've turned out.

Would that be allowed, and if so, would that be offensive to others?

Title: Re: Not ready for the breasts
Post by: Mariah on September 04, 2017, 05:46:55 PM
Nope. Nudity is against TOS. Hugs
Mariah
Quote from: gg on September 04, 2017, 04:03:20 PM
Are we allowed to post breast shots? Like, in a bra? 

I have some that I could share, though I'm not sure what the point would be, other than I'm super proud and excited how they've turned out.

Would that be allowed, and if so, would that be offensive to others?
Title: Re: Not ready for the breasts
Post by: billyjeans on September 04, 2017, 06:46:38 PM
I love this thread, so interesting to think about since I'm about 5-6 months pre hormones. I dream daily about what my breasts will look like. Strong positive but also the potential for negative consequences based on the specific situation of each individual. Stay strong, we are with you.


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Title: Re: Not ready for the breasts
Post by: gg on September 04, 2017, 06:53:44 PM
Quote from: Mariah on September 04, 2017, 05:46:55 PM
Nope. Nudity is against TOS. Hugs
Mariah

Oh, I wouldn't think of that. I was asking if it was okay to show them in a bra.

:)
Title: Re: Not ready for the breasts
Post by: gg on September 04, 2017, 07:02:08 PM
Quote from: billyjeans on September 04, 2017, 06:46:38 PM
I love this thread, so interesting to think about since I'm about 5-6 months pre hormones. I dream daily about what my breasts will look like. Strong positive but also the potential for negative consequences based on the specific situation of each individual. Stay strong, we are with you.


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I remember how excited I was when I started HRT and I would play scenarios in my head, like  "what if I somehow grow d sized boobs, I won't be able to hide them" and I be so excited, but I never figured I'd actually be on my way to a D cup!

My bra size is 38c right now and they're starting to grow out of most of them.

Right now I'm in sports bra and a regular t-shirt and I'm thinking about going to Walmart like this. I actually need to go to Walmart, I'm not doing it as an excuse to go out like this. Still, I'm a lot more fem than I would normally even think about presenting as right now, and I'm starting not to care what people might think anymore.

I'm going to do it. I mean, what's the worst that can happen? Someone clocks me and then murders me?  (kidding)

I'm just going to go for it. I have SUPER light eye makeup and a nude lip liner. Just very subtly noticeable, but it makes me look WAY feminine.

I'm kind of fantasizing that someone might say something like "you look pretty" or maybe get mammed.

:)

Title: Re: Not ready for the breasts
Post by: billyjeans on September 04, 2017, 07:32:32 PM
OMG girl!  Wish we could go along right next to you, I need some knee highs. I have a pretty convincing push up bra and some comfy cute outfits. Power to you and update us!  Let us know how it went!


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Title: Re: Not ready for the breasts
Post by: gg on September 04, 2017, 10:30:44 PM
Well I went into Walmart and bought some ankle weights and a phone charger. No issues at all. If anything, people seemed to smile at me more.

I had to stop myself from looking away from people and avoiding eye contact a couple times, but then I just decided to be confident, and so I was. No problems at all.

Now I looked pretty androgynous though, but surely leaning towards the feminine. My boobs we not huge with the sports bra on, but they were for sure right there.

So that was the very first time I had the guts to do something like this, and it wasn't bad at all.

The only thing that made me nervous were being near kids, lol.

Title: Re: Not ready for the breasts
Post by: rmaddy on September 05, 2017, 12:13:49 AM
Quote from: Norma Lynne on August 30, 2017, 12:11:32 PM

So I guess wearing a bra and having breasts is just one of those stages that I have to get used to. And move on. Just sometimes I look in the mirror and say to my self. "Yup them there are some boobs. Can't deny it anymore! Now how do I pull this off"?


Yep.  Puberty, the Sequel.  We get what we get!
Title: Re: Not ready for the breasts
Post by: Lucy Ross on September 05, 2017, 06:20:31 AM
Walmart's where I started shopping for undies in earnest.  The discount racks and self check mean you can buy cheap bras and panties without talking to anyone.
Title: Re: Not ready for the breasts
Post by: RobynD on September 05, 2017, 11:52:07 AM
Mine grew quickly and steadily also. I am now a 38D, and some measurements put me at a DD. There was a bit of shock there for me too but also a lot of joy about it. For me it was a partial catalyst to dress a bit more feminine, wear bras every day etc and deal with the reactions etc.

The other day i quickly threw on a dress and left the house and i was clearly leaving not a lot to the imagination up top. My boyfriend sort of kidded in a nice way, but i deserved it. Unless you want a lot more attention than normal, the outfit and the bra or lack thereof, has to be thought about.

For me, a little nudging into the future by my own body was a pretty good thing.
Title: Re: Not ready for the breasts
Post by: Mariah on September 05, 2017, 06:30:58 PM
Nope it isn't okay to do so. Hugs
Mariah
Quote from: gg on September 04, 2017, 06:53:44 PM
Oh, I wouldn't think of that. I was asking if it was okay to show them in a bra.

:)
Title: Re: Not ready for the breasts
Post by: AshleyP on September 05, 2017, 09:17:12 PM
Quote from: gg on September 04, 2017, 06:53:44 PM
Oh, I wouldn't think of that. I was asking if it was okay to show them in a bra.

There's the bikini/swimsuit thread that's been around for a while:

https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,190932.0.html
Title: Re: Not ready for the breasts
Post by: Dena on September 05, 2017, 09:54:32 PM
Quote from: gg on September 04, 2017, 06:53:44 PM
Oh, I wouldn't think of that. I was asking if it was okay to show them in a bra.

:)
This is a family web site so the rule we moderate by is swimwear and street clothes are fine, nudity and underwear are not.
Title: Re: Not ready for the breasts
Post by: Jacqueline on September 06, 2017, 11:56:46 AM
Quote from: gg on September 04, 2017, 06:53:44 PM
Oh, I wouldn't think of that. I was asking if it was okay to show them in a bra.

:)

gg,

It is a very slippery slope considering the material that many items defined as "bra" fits. So the rule on the site is if you would wear it outside in public(not a nudist area).  What that has come to mean is that clothed or bathing suits and depending on the taste of the garment, sports bras are occasionally allowed.

Warmly,

Jacqui
Title: Re: Not ready for the breasts
Post by: Jacqueline on September 06, 2017, 11:57:42 AM
Wow, sorry. I feel we all hit post and the same time.

Not trying to gang up on anyone. :)

Jacqui
Title: Re: Not ready for the breasts
Post by: Nora Kayte on September 06, 2017, 05:03:15 PM
So you guys(moderators) are not being very clear. Because there are some bathing suits that are way more reveling than any bra and panties would be. So what is it? To say a bikini top is ok but a bra is not just sounds wrong to me. Lol but that's just me. Lol


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Title: Re: Not ready for the breasts
Post by: rmaddy on September 06, 2017, 05:07:16 PM
Quote from: Norma Lynne on September 06, 2017, 05:03:15 PM
So you guys(moderators) are not being very clear. Because there are some bathing suits that are way more reveling than any bra and panties would be. So what is it? To say a bikini top is ok but a bra is not just sounds wrong to me. Lol but that's just me. Lol



Not liking a rule doesn't mean that it is unclear.  I don't think that there is any doubt based on their posts how to follow it, i.e. it is very clear.
Title: Re: Not ready for the breasts
Post by: Dena on September 06, 2017, 06:38:58 PM
Sometimes we have a difficult time telling a bra and panties from a bikini and we get several moderators and administrators involved in the decision. I hate those calls because your never sure you got it right. Most of the time the underwear is naughty enough that we know it's not swimwear or the swimwear cut or pattern clearly indicates what it is. Nobody ever said being a moderator was easy and that's why it's so difficult to find people who we trust with the job.
Title: Re: Not ready for the breasts
Post by: gg on September 06, 2017, 07:36:26 PM
Quote from: Dena on September 06, 2017, 06:38:58 PM
Sometimes we have a difficult time telling a bra and panties from a bikini and we get several moderators and administrators involved in the decision. I hate those calls because your never sure you got it right. Most of the time the underwear is naughty enough that we know it's not swimwear or the swimwear cut or pattern clearly indicates what it is. Nobody ever said being a moderator was easy and that's why it's so difficult to find people who we trust with the job.

Okay, I don't want to get off on the wrong foot with anyone - and I am not advocating changing any rules and I really don't mind about the bra rule, so please just understand that there is a part of me that has to point something out for my own sanity.

If you sometimes have a hard time telling a bra from a bikini, then what is the difference really? Also, what's "naughty" about a bra? I would think a better rule would be to just not allow naked breasts that expose anything from the nipple and below perhaps.

Also, it's been mentioned that this is a family site. Newspapers show ads of women in bras and so do family catalogs.

There. I said it. Please don't be personally offended and please don't run me out of dodge!

I'm a forum owner myself - two different ones going back 9 years and one has over 1 million posts. I know now hard it is to moderate a forum.





Title: Re: Not ready for the breasts
Post by: Dena on September 06, 2017, 08:17:49 PM
It's the sensitive nature of this site. We have parents with children who visit this site and what's worst, we have strongly religious people who view this site. We had a devil of a time getting this site off the black list (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,191383.0.html) so children could find it. In addition, my email provider (a once major one) had the site black listed and may still have it blocked to protect the children from corruption. It resulted in me not being able to create an account because my emails were blocked so I had have chat force me in. My email now has this site white listed so I am good but it took a while to untangle it.

Yes, the dividing line overlaps but it's the best we can do without adding the personal judgement of the staff into the mix. When that happens, one moderator may rule differently than another. At least the current rule has a clear dividing line.
Title: Re: Not ready for the breasts
Post by: rmaddy on September 06, 2017, 10:48:39 PM
Thanks for the explanations, Dena.  This is a privately run business and not a public square.  Susan an Co have the right to set rules to keep whatever sense of order that they desire.

Being a bit of a clown, I tend to trip over the occasional line in the sand.  IMO, the best response when a moderator intervenes is "Thank you.  I understand."
Title: Re: Not ready for the breasts
Post by: SonadoraXVX on September 07, 2017, 12:17:05 AM
Well, ladies, I have been on hrt for the past 4 years, going on 5 at the end of November. Not only do your boobs grow, my clothes hang differently, especially around my leg area and I'm very much smoother in appearance, and long hair. I wear very loose dress shirts and slacks, but I always make it a habit to wear a windbreaker jacket. I also have long hair. Off work, I wear Hawaiian shirts and it does seem to hide my growth, but I'm pretty sure I'm a solid b, or tanner 3, at my age. Helps if I'm overweight, but only so much, since I'm tall too, at 5' 10". I wear a sleeveless white tshirt underneath(acts like a bra of sorts), over  white vneck tshirt, then the dress shirt, which works pretty well, for most situations.
Title: Re: Not ready for the breasts
Post by: Nora Kayte on September 07, 2017, 09:44:08 AM
Quote from: rmaddy on September 06, 2017, 05:07:16 PM
Not liking a rule doesn't mean that it is unclear.  I don't think that there is any doubt based on their posts how to follow it, i.e. it is very clear.
Never said I don't like the rule. I don't care. So to think you know what I'm thinking is wrong. And something being clear or not depends on the person. Just because it's clear to you does not mean it's clear to others. There are a lot of people on this site that English is not their native tongue.


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Title: Re: Not ready for the breasts
Post by: freebird on September 07, 2017, 01:13:25 PM
I struggled with my breast readiness and I have come to the conclusion to not worry about it. As my breasts get larger I just need to revel in the knowledge that I am becoming who I want to be. Sure I get some odd looks from time to time but I have started saying to myself "Yep those are mine. Pretty nice aren't they?". I have been doing this over the past couple of weeks and I feel much better. I hope this helps..
Title: Re: Not ready for the breasts
Post by: Jacqueline on September 07, 2017, 01:23:37 PM
Quote from: Norma Lynne on September 07, 2017, 09:44:08 AM
Never said I don't like the rule. I don't care. So to think you know what I'm thinking is wrong. And something being clear or not depends on the person. Just because it's clear to you does not mean it's clear to others. There are a lot of people on this site that English is not their native tongue.


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Alright ladies. Let's give this a rest. We have clarified what we can about that policy. Speaking of policies and such, I would like to remind every one to not get too personally upset about comments here. This is a personally owned site. As such the rules are defined by that person, Susan. It is to try to keep this a safe place. While discussing this, I want to include three parts of the Terms of Service:

Quote2. Any attempts to stage protests, dispute the site policies, the TOS/rules, or actions of the staff...



10. Bashing or flaming of an individual or group is not acceptable behavior on this website and will not be tolerated in the slightest for any reason.  This includes but is not limited to:

    Advocating the separation or exclusion of one or more group from under the Transgender umbrella term. The same restriction applies to advocating the removal of the T from GLBT.
    Suggesting or claiming that one segment or sub-segment of our community is more or less legitimate, deserving, or real than any others.
    Suggesting that Trans people are not really men (FTM) or women (MTF).
    Posting any messages that engages in personal attacks and/or is actively or passively aggressive no matter the provocation.


15. Items under discussion shall be confined to the subject matter at hand. Members shall avoid taking the other users posts personally, and/or posting anything that can reasonably be construed as a personal attack. 

Whew. I feel better. I got all those rules out of my  system. We travel a tough path. Lets not make it tougher for ourselves or each other.

Warmly,

Jacqueline
Title: Re: Not ready for the breasts
Post by: Nora Kayte on September 07, 2017, 02:28:50 PM
Quote from: freebird on September 07, 2017, 01:13:25 PM
I struggled with my breast readiness and I have come to the conclusion to not worry about it. As my breasts get larger I just need to revel in the knowledge that I am becoming who I want to be. Sure I get some odd looks from time to time but I have started saying to myself "Yep those are mine. Pretty nice aren't they?". I have been doing this over the past couple of weeks and I feel much better. I hope this helps..
Made me smile. Thank you. And your right. I have been trying to adopt that attitude this last week.


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Title: Re: Not ready for the breasts
Post by: Nora Kayte on September 11, 2017, 02:05:29 PM
This is me in my 38C bra. In a tank top. So it should be legal. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170911/1b04cb641e8357d0a9a2f5daa35f7aa9.jpg)
A couple of my friends may have seen it already. Probably to close. The skin looks bad even though I moisturize a lot.


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Title: Re: Not ready for the breasts
Post by: AshleyP on September 12, 2017, 12:51:22 AM
Quote from: Norma Lynne on September 11, 2017, 02:05:29 PM
This is me in my 38C bra. In a tank top. So it should be legal. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170911/1b04cb641e8357d0a9a2f5daa35f7aa9.jpg)
A couple of my friends may have seen it already. Probably to close. The skin looks bad even though I moisturize a lot.

Awesome.

--AshleyP
Title: Re: Not ready for the breasts
Post by: Bari Jo on September 12, 2017, 08:16:12 AM
Wow Norma, I'd be happy with half that size!
Title: Re: Not ready for the breasts
Post by: Nora Kayte on September 18, 2017, 06:42:22 PM
Don't want to start another related thread. So I'll post in this one. Lol. Never thought I would have said this to myself. And actually really never thought about it before. But I looked at the laundry and as I was walking by the laundry basket, I thought to myself. "Dang I have to do a load of  delicates". Because as I walked by I said out loud to myself "I am out of bras". WTH? Out of bras. Lol. Jeez. Ha Ha Ha


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