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A little bit ago I had to go get my brother from the hospital. He had dislocated his shoulder. He dislocated it car surfing. That's when you stand on a moving car and ride it like a surfboard. If my brother was 12 I might understand being that stupid but he's 21. When I asked him why he would do something that totally stupid he said because his friends were doing it and they dared him to. I might have known that. His friends are always doing really stupid stuff and when Tyler is with them it's like his intelligence drops sharply. One time they were zapping each other with my stun gun another time they decided to ride a snowboard down the stairs. And once they were daring each other to put pepper spray on their tongues. When a group of guys are together they all get stupid! Why?? It's a mystery to me. I've seen the same thing with other groups of guys.  So they dared Tyler to do it, so what. If he refuses what happens? He has to turn in his membership to the guy club? It amazes me. When other guys dare a guy to do something they usually will do it. Even if it's totally stupid and dangerous. It's insane! My brother said he figured I would laugh at him when he told me how he hurt himself. I told him that realizing my brother is as dumb as a bag of hair was more like something to cry about.

I guess I can't go anywhere until my dad gets home. If I leave Tyler unattended he might go running into traffic or try to put a fork into the electric socket. I guess I have to keep him out of the shower too or he might start staring up at the shower head and drown himself.

Yea, im not to sure why that happens. Maybe they want to see who can be the bigger center peice of attention? But hey, somethings being stupid can make you rich and famous.. look at the people in the movie Jackass....

Haha I always enjoyed doing this kind of dumb ->-bleeped-<- though lol. Dunno would I still do it though at my age haha

While guys have always done things on a dare etc., things to be getting dumber lately.  Car surfing is one thing I'd never even heard of until a few years ago.  Another recent, incredibly stupid activity is swarms of motorcycles interfering with traffic, pulling wheelies on public roads and more. 

Quote from: AnneK on August 31, 2017, 01:24:47 PM
While guys have always done things on a dare etc., things to be getting dumber lately.  Car surfing is one thing I'd never even heard of until a few years ago.  Another recent, incredibly stupid activity is swarms of motorcycles interfering with traffic, pulling wheelies on public roads and more. 

I hear you. The most incredably stupid thing I have witnessed while driving 70 mph was watching 5 guys on crotch rockets doing wheelies at 85 - 90 MPH. But I have also witnessed first hand, being assaulted in an outhouse by knuckleheads with BB guns shooting through the vents.

Quote from: DawnOday on August 31, 2017, 02:09:33 PM
I hear you. The most incredably stupid thing I have witnessed while driving 70 mph was watching 5 guys on crotch rockets doing wheelies at 85 - 90 MPH. But I have also witnessed first hand, being assaulted in an outhouse by knuckleheads with BB guns shooting through the vents.
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An outhouse?? When were you in an outhouse? Weren't those like from over a hundred years ago? What's a outhouse like. Is it just a big hole with a wood shelter around it? I know it doesn't flush so it must smell nasty! And how do you clean up without toilet paper? Sorry for all the questions, Ive just always wondered what a outhouse was like.

Your brother is lucky to have just dislocated his shoulder. We use to tow each other behind a car on skateboards..among other stupid things.  Like getting are cars air borne. Ive seen bad results from that. Boys will be boys and they feel at a young age they may not make it to see adulthood so let's push it! It's called Showing off and a testosterone rush. Young and dumb sorry to say.

Quote from: Christine1 on August 31, 2017, 02:32:46 PM
Your brother is lucky to have just dislocated his shoulder. We use to tow each other behind a car on skateboards..among other stupid things.  Like getting are cars air borne. Ive seen bad results from that. Boys will be boys and they feel at a young age they may not make it to see adulthood so let's push it! It's called Showing off and a testosterone rush. Young and dumb sorry to say.

I figured it probably had something to do with testosterone.  I was talking to my boyfriend and told him what my brother had done. I was expecting him to agree with me how stupid it was but he said " oh I've done car surfing. It's fun."  I give up.

Don't give up girl! Tell him how u feel but unfortunately the boys will push Him to man up. My only advise to chill him out would maybe show him how he can really man up with You! Just my 2 cents girl.   I think that testosterone rush would be better! Hope I didn't over step on that one Julia?

As I have said a million times, I never fit in. As a teenager I always knew that when a pretty girl came around the boys' personalities would change drastically. I noticed that they immediately started talking "tougher" and louder as if trying to impress the girl. One time the guys noticed that I walked away when one of these girls walked into a room. They asked where I was going. I said, "Well, every time a girl comes around, you guys start acting different. I'll come back when she's gone." This freaked them out for some reason. They had to know that they changed! Why do I have to tell the obvious? I REALLY stopped fitting in after that.

When I was really young, a bunch of us boys (brother, cousins) got bow and arrow sets for Christmas. After shooting targets for a while, one of the "tough" ones started a very dangerous game. We were to take turns shooting an arrow straight up into the air as high as we could shoot it. The first boy to "chicken out" and run to dodge the returning arrow was labelled the "chicken." Very dangerous and stupid.

My old hillbilly aunt lived in a house that had an outhouse. You are lucky if you never had to use one. It was just a square wooden shack with a wooden "seat" inside that had a 6" hole in the middle. You simply did your business and the poop would just drop to the bare ground below. Two things I remember are snakes and the horrid smell. Just used store bought toilet paper. Old timers used catalogs and corncobs! :o

Quote from: Julia1996 on August 31, 2017, 02:18:36 PM

Quote from: DawnOday on August 31, 2017, 02:09:33 PM
I hear you. The most incredably stupid thing I have witnessed while driving 70 mph was watching 5 guys on crotch rockets doing wheelies at 85 - 90 MPH. But I have also witnessed first hand, being assaulted in an outhouse by knuckleheads with BB guns shooting through the vents.
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An outhouse?? When were you in an outhouse? Weren't those like from over a hundred years ago? What's a outhouse like. Is it just a big hole with a wood shelter around it? I know it doesn't flush so it must smell nasty! And how do you clean up without toilet paper? Sorry for all the questions, Ive just always wondered what a outhouse was like.

Honey you got to get out more. Outhouses are often used at concerts, campgrounds, construction areas, temporary facilities. Yes they do stink but lighting a match does make it slightly more bearable. In remote areas they are dug into the ground. Others have a 25-50 gallon tank attached and are vaccumed out weekly or more oftern depending on use. This one was in the Angeles National Forest near Wrightwood. Alcohol more often that not is the cause. It certainly was this time/

Because it's fun.

Quote from: DawnOday on August 31, 2017, 03:15:37 PM
Honey you got to get out more. Outhouses are often used at concerts, campgrounds, construction areas, temporary facilities. Yes they do stink but lighting a match does make it slightly more bearable. In remote areas they are dug into the ground. Others have a 25-50 gallon tank attached and are vaccumed out weekly or more oftern depending on use. This one was in the Angeles National Forest near Wrightwood. Alcohol more often that not is the cause. It certainly was this time/

Are you talking about a portapotty? I've used one of those nasty things before.  I thought you meant a outhouse like from back in the 1800s.

Quote from: FTMax on August 31, 2017, 03:20:06 PM
Because it's fun.

I'm not surprised you say that Max. I would expect as much from a mushroom hater. Lol jk.

Quote from: Julia1996 on August 31, 2017, 04:01:04 PM

Quote from: FTMax on August 31, 2017, 03:20:06 PM
Because it's fun.

I'm not surprised you say that Max. I would expect as much from a mushroom hater. Lol jk.

I ate a mushroom yesterday. Still gross :(

That's testosterone for you. Any where from puberty to late 30s is a dangerous time to be in a group of men.  It makes them do stupid things, sometimes dangerous. 

As for the porta-potty, to me an outhouse is completely different. I had to use an outhouse one winter in Montana when visiting my grandmother.  So glad they got plumbing the next time I visited.

Quote from: RobynTx on August 31, 2017, 04:33:24 PM
As for the porta-potty, to me an outhouse is completely different. I had to use an outhouse one winter in Montana when visiting my grandmother.  So glad they got plumbing the next time I visited.

This is right. An outhouse is an old-fashioned hand-built wood-boarded square shack that is usually permanently built on one spot far in the backyard of a residence (usually in the old days before indoor plumbing). Just a seat/bench with a "stink hole." No sink or other facilities inside. A porta-potty, on the other hand, is almost always factory built (by the thousands) of plastic and fiberglass and is portable by a special truck from place to place for public use like outdoor concerts, construction sites, etc. They are strictly commercial and temporary and usually placed several together in groups -- we've all seen them at events. They stink too but not as bad as outhouses since chemicals are used in the fluids to kill bacteria and to un-stink the thing as much as possible.... :o

Quote from: Julia1996 on August 31, 2017, 03:59:06 PM
Are you talking about a portapotty? I've used one of those nasty things before.  I thought you meant a outhouse like from back in the 1800s.

Pretty much the same thing. They were called outhouses because they were outside down a path. An out building on a property. Today they are mostly port a pots, honey buckets, etc  Rural areas still have outhouses in the original configuration.

I has to do with bravery, strength and the ability to endure things. In ancient times, brave young men went to war, or hunting. Now, they do things like car surfing. Think about it as a duel from 200 years ago. It didn't matter wheather you lived or died, the important part was being brave enough to accept. If not, you would loose your honor, which was a terrible thing.

If you translate that to modern times, it doesn't matter if your brother couldn't surf the car, but he tried. He would be a "chicken" if not. And it's not nice to be the chicken in a group of boys.

QuoteAnd it's not nice to be the chicken in a group of boys.

That's one thing I definitely don't recall happening.

Quote from: FTMax on August 31, 2017, 04:04:44 PM
I'm not surprised you say that Max. I would expect as much from a mushroom hater. Lol jk.


I ate a mushroom yesterday. Still gross :(

I'm with Max, mushrooms are nasty.

Quote from: SailorMars1994 on August 31, 2017, 08:20:04 PM
I'm with Max, mushrooms are nasty.

  I beg to disagree Ashley. Mushrooms are delicious. Especially sauteed in butter with garlic, salt, and cracked pepper with a dash of white wine.

Bon appétit,
    Laurie

Quote from: Laurie on September 01, 2017, 01:49:54 AM

Quote from: SailorMars1994 on August 31, 2017, 08:20:04 PM
I'm with Max, mushrooms are nasty.

  I beg to disagree Ashley. Mushrooms are delicious. Especially sauteed in butter with garlic, salt, and cracked pepper with a dash of white wine.

Bon appétit,
    Laurie

You're wrong, but okay.

I am sorry but I don't think I can abide all this hating on mushrooms.... :icon_cry2:  a fine piece of fungus  ;)

Some mushrooms are quite large, steak sized.  But they are not adequate as knee and shoulder protection.

Sorry, but something that is capable of growing between my toes is not entering my mouth.  Just say no to fungi   :icon_blah:


Mushroom walks into a bar
Bartender says "we don't serve your kind here"
Mushroom says "Buy why, I'm a Fun guy"

Insert groans and eye rolls here.

Artesia, if you are capable of growing mushrooms between your toes you might want to wash your feet once in a while. (Just kidding) lol. I'm sorry but I love mushrooms! Once when we had ordered pizza my boyfriend picked the mushrooms off of his and gave them to me. He said he could eat mushrooms but he wasn't wild about them. But I find his taste in food suspect. He loves Vegimite! The nastiest food item ever created!  He stuck a bite of toast with Vegimite on it in my mouth once to try. I almost had to bleach my tongue to get rid of that aftertaste. Ewww!

Quote from: Julia1996 on September 01, 2017, 06:47:11 AM
..... But I find his taste in food suspect. He loves Vegimite! The nastiest food item ever created!  He stuck a bite of toast with Vegimite on it in my mouth once to try. I almost had to bleach my tongue to get rid of that aftertaste. Ewww!

Funny thing is you are certainly not the first to comment on that wonderful elixir of life called Vegemite. The blackish brown gooeyness of Vegemite....in fact how about a Vegemite and Potato crisp sandwich... or vegemite and shallots on fresh bread.....or vegemite on hot toast.....or vegemite in your gravy...and last but certainly least vegemite on rye with a poached egg on top...all real foods hmmmmm  hmmmmm ask Tristan I am sure he would appreciate those and have a couple of his own to add  ;D ;D

Quote from: ElizabethK on September 01, 2017, 07:22:07 AM
Funny thing is you are certainly not the first to comment on that wonderful elixir of life called Vegemite. The blackish brown gooeyness of Vegemite....in fact how about a Vegemite and Potato crisp sandwich... or vegemite and shallots on fresh bread.....or vegemite on hot toast.....or vegemite in your gravy...and last but certainly least vegemite on rye with a poached egg on top...all real foods hmmmmm  hmmmmm ask Tristan I am sure he would appreciate those and have a couple of his own to add  ;D ;D

I'm sure he could come up with more ways to eat Vegimite. That is when I know what he's talking about. Aussies have some.....interesting words for food items and things in general. Bumnuts are eggs, crisps are potato chips, etc. Once when a woman with a baby in a stroller walked by us he said " what a cute bub". I was like "what? Who is bub?"  Bub is Australian for a baby. Lol

Quote from: Julia1996 on September 01, 2017, 06:47:11 AM
Artesia, if you are capable of growing mushrooms between your toes you might want to wash your feet once in a while. (Just kidding) lol. I'm sorry but I love mushrooms! Once when we had ordered pizza my boyfriend picked the mushrooms off of his and gave them to me. He said he could eat mushrooms but he wasn't wild about them. But I find his taste in food suspect. He loves Vegimite! The nastiest food item ever created!  He stuck a bite of toast with Vegimite on it in my mouth once to try. I almost had to bleach my tongue to get rid of that aftertaste. Ewww!

I think it is more needing to stop wearing my male shoes. Those things stink BAD!!!

Job is over now, so no more wearing them for work, so maybe no more bad feet.

Well... I was gonna write a more serious reply to this... then I got distracted by the talk of food... Especially mushrooms. Mmmmm.  They are really good cooked with.... oh crap... what's it called... OH! Balsamic vinegar and glaric and onion....
Edit:  I meant garlic... I have NO idea what glaric is....

Don't like chicken though... being one or eating it...

Okay, now for the more serious reply... okay so its only slightly more serious.  Doing stupid things is fun... liiiiike going down a very steep hill on a razor scooter when your brake doesn't work as is, and without a helmet.  Yeah, why did I think that was a good idea? (In case anyone's wondering, I at least was smart enough to jump off my scooter close to the top of the hill so I didn't crash and die at the bottom... Just ended up with a broken shoulder blade, my eyebrow cut open, and a bunch of other scars. [You know you did something stupid when you have to be numbed just to get your scrapes clean])

Because they are guys

I totally avoid any group of guys I see in my way because I know they can do stupid things

Since I was little I always consider boys dumb their actions prove that to me

I live in all boys environment and honestly they never grow up mentally and always bully me because I'm different than them

The simple answer because they are boys they do dumb things

Lol they see us girls the same way btw

Quote from: rose on September 02, 2017, 02:59:54 AM
Lol they see us girls the same way btw

Truer words never spoken.  I've never understood girls. They make no sense to me.

Though to be fair, I don't understand men either...

Honestly, I think that's kinda one of the great things about being trans and/or non-binary is you get a perspective from both worlds, and realize... DANG such and such that men/women do is DUMB. (And then half the time you find yourself doing it anyway, lol....) I know there are some people who would rather just be seen as their preferred gender without the label 'trans'.  Personally though, I feel like its something to own and be proud of. At least that's what my goal is.

I've seen shades of this too over the years. Particularly when my dad and his brothers get together. My dad on his own is fine, perfectly happy to take it easy and let other people be. But when his brothers are around, suddenly he turns into a jerk. That's when he starts trying to show off his guns and act like some kind of tough guy. At his worst he goes out of his way to make other people look/feel stupid by catching them off guard and tripping them up so he has something to point and laugh at. Trying to pour something into a measuring cup? Prepare for him to sneak up and start yelling "Whoa! Careful there! Don't put to much in there! HO! WATCH IT!!" and if it works and he manages to make you either mess up or second guess yourself he'll start going on about how you could never work with explosives. It's like his brothers being around makes him think he's got something to prove. Of course if you turn that around on him and try to make him look like the idiot he gets butthurt and sulks for days. He's also more prone to taking risks around them, drinking more than he normally would, trying to turn a cartwheel even so he's in his 50's and has a bad back. Stuff he always has to pay for the next day.

...I chalk it up to him being the middle child.

Quote from: Red Lion on September 03, 2017, 01:38:01 AM
I've seen shades of this too over the years. Particularly when my dad and his brothers get together. My dad on his own is fine, perfectly happy to take it easy and let other people be. But when his brothers are around, suddenly he turns into a jerk. That's when he starts trying to show off his guns and act like some kind of tough guy. At his worst he goes out of his way to make other people look/feel stupid by catching them off guard and tripping them up so he has something to point and laugh at. Trying to pour something into a measuring cup? Prepare for him to sneak up and start yelling "Whoa! Careful there! Don't put to much in there! HO! WATCH IT!!" and if it works and he manages to make you either mess up or second guess yourself he'll start going on about how you could never work with explosives. It's like his brothers being around makes him think he's got something to prove. Of course if you turn that around on him and try to make him look like the idiot he gets butthurt and sulks for days. He's also more prone to taking risks around them, drinking more than he normally would, trying to turn a cartwheel even so he's in his 50's and has a bad back. Stuff he always has to pay for the next day.

...I chalk it up to him being the middle child.

Thankfully my dad isn't too bad but my brother is another story. Its like he works overtime to be annoying. Before I try to pour anything into a measuring cup or anything like that I've learned to check that my brother is no where around. I've lost count of how many times he has slipped up behind me and grabbed my sides and screamed making me spill whatever it was all over. He also likes to hide around corners and jump out and scare the crap out of me and if he ever gives me a soda I know to let it rest a while before opening it because it's a guarantee that he shook the hell out of it before he gave it to me. Guys have kind of a mean sense of humor. The stuff they do to each other as a "joke" can be really mean.

And I don't know if it's all guys, but most of them can give it out but they can't take it. If they suddenly find themselves the butt of the joke the turn into big babies. My brother is equal opportunity annoying. He will mess with my dad too. One night my dad was watching TV and Tyler kept messing with him. He would spray him with the spray bottle we use for the cat, throw cheese goldfish at his head, etc. Just stupid guy stuff. My dad told him to keep it up and see what happened.  Instead of leaving him alone my brother seemed to take that as a challenge. He went over to my dad and he would smack him in the head and then jump away and tell my dad he was too slow. By smack in the head I don't mean actual slapping. Just play smacking. In the blink of a eye my dad suddenly had Tyler on the floor and pinned down. My dad started smacking him in the head like he had done to him and he soaked him with the cat bottle. Then he asked Tyler if he was still as ticklish as when he was little and started tickling the crap out of him. Well....Tyler had a little accident and peed his pants. Then I almost peed mine from laughing at him. He asked my dad why he would do something like that, and that he had only been playing. The he said that it was totally messed up that my dad would do something like that. Then he said " and you shut up Julia. It's not funny!". He was actually still mad at my dad the next day. My dad told him told him to remember what had happened the next time he thought about messing with him and to get over it or the next time Tyler's friends were over he would make him pee his pants in front of them.

Sometimes watching guys interact is like watching baboons in the wild.

Quote from: Rowena_Ellenweorc on September 01, 2017, 04:56:35 PM

Okay, now for the more serious reply... okay so its only slightly more serious.  Doing stupid things is fun... liiiiike going down a very steep hill on a razor scooter when your brake doesn't work as is, and without a helmet.  Yeah, why did I think that was a good idea? (In case anyone's wondering, I at least was smart enough to jump off my scooter close to the top of the hill so I didn't crash and die at the bottom... Just ended up with a broken shoulder blade, my eyebrow cut open, and a bunch of other scars. [You know you did something stupid when you have to be numbed just to get your scrapes clean])

Thank you Rowena for heading us back on topic. Though I enjoyed the side track and was guilty of participating in it myself, it was off topic. I shall have to keep an eye on myself and try not to stray and derail topics.

laurie

Quote from: Julia1996 on September 03, 2017, 07:10:32 AM
Thankfully my dad isn't too bad but my brother is another story. Its like he works overtime to be annoying. Before I try to pour anything into a measuring cup or anything like that I've learned to check that my brother is no where around. I've lost count of how many times he has slipped up behind me and grabbed my sides and screamed making me spill whatever it was all over. He also likes to hide around corners and jump out and scare the crap out of me and if he ever gives me a soda I know to let it rest a while before opening it because it's a guarantee that he shook the hell out of it before he gave it to me. Guys have kind of a mean sense of humor. The stuff they do to each other as a "joke" can be really mean.

I have a brother too, and he's about the same. Loud, annoying and doesn't know when to leave people alone. He can't take his own medicine either.

I know plenty of guys who aren't super obnoxious, but yeah, seems like when you get a lot of them in a group together they're more prone to do stupid ->-bleeped-<- and now that I think about it, the mean sense of humor is kinda prevalent even in the quiet ones.

Quote from: Laurie on September 03, 2017, 01:02:04 PM
Thank you Rowena for heading us back on topic. Though I enjoyed the side track and was guilty of participating in it myself, it was off topic. I shall have to keep an eye on myself and try not to stray and derail topics.

laurie

Haha, any time. ;) Bur hey at least it was amusing of a derailment.

Quote from: Red Lion on September 03, 2017, 01:38:01 AM
I've seen shades of this too over the years. Particularly when my dad and his brothers get together. My dad on his own is fine, perfectly happy to take it easy and let other people be. But when his brothers are around, suddenly he turns into a jerk. That's when he starts trying to show off his guns and act like some kind of tough guy. At his worst he goes out of his way to make other people look/feel stupid by catching them off guard and tripping them up so he has something to point and laugh at. Trying to pour something into a measuring cup? Prepare for him to sneak up and start yelling "Whoa! Careful there! Don't put to much in there! HO! WATCH IT!!" and if it works and he manages to make you either mess up or second guess yourself he'll start going on about how you could never work with explosives. It's like his brothers being around makes him think he's got something to prove. Of course if you turn that around on him and try to make him look like the idiot he gets butthurt and sulks for days. He's also more prone to taking risks around them, drinking more than he normally would, trying to turn a cartwheel even so he's in his 50's and has a bad back. Stuff he always has to pay for the next day.

...I chalk it up to him being the middle child.

I wish I could say it has something to do with where you're (generic you obviously) placed in the family,   My dad is the eldest... and at a lovely 73, put him around the rest of the family, he's an idiot... Let's just say there's a reason he's the favorite uncle.

And then there's me, who is the youngest by 8.5 years.  And well... scroll up for my big stupid story.

Frankly, there's no rhyme or reason to it... logically speaking.  However from a sociological standpoint, Actually... I have a bad habit of writing to much as is, and I could go on and on for hours about the sociology behind it all.  But sum up... If you get together any group of people with certain similarities, its going to bring out those similarities in prominence.

Get together a bunch of people who naturally have an inclination to say, 'Hey watch this', then because of the inclination being present in all of them, that thought will then be followed by a stupid action, then subsequently followed by sirens.

Lets take a cultural example. (I'm using one from personal experience)  I came from the Washington DC area before moving to Utah.  As many of you probably would guess, its a multicultural, multiethnic hub of activity. I grew up one of a few Mormons, so in a school setting, the Mormon traits didn't seem so abundant. You had to look for them.  However, in 2005, I moved to Utah.
The difference in coming to a place known for its Mormons was drastic. The traits that seemed so hard to notice, take something simple like, 'Don't drink' or 'Don't shop on Sunday' were prominent.  Many businesses are closed on Sundays.  Liquor sales... well don't get me started on that.  There's an LDS church on practically every corner. Now these aren't necessarily bad (okay maybe the liquor ones are a bit extreme, but that's a different story for a different day), unlike boy stupidity when they get together. But the point remains.

Put any liketraited individuals together, and those traits will become more prominent/noticeable.

Oh... didn't I say I wasn't going to go into sociology?  Oh well, at least I kept it fairly short. For once.

Car surfing is easier to explain if all participants wear antlers. 

Quote from: Kendra on September 04, 2017, 05:39:28 PM
Car surfing is easier to explain if all participants wear antlers.

oh wow... that made me laugh way harder than it should have.

I never understood it. I was always disgusted by the testosterone fueled competitions and stunts, and even just the general dialogue when around a group of guys always made me feel very uncomfortable and out of place. I had not even really considered this in light of my recent revelations, but it makes perfect sense I suppose.

Quote from: Laurie on September 01, 2017, 01:49:54 AM
  I beg to disagree Ashley. Mushrooms are delicious. Especially sauteed in butter with garlic, salt, and cracked pepper with a dash of white wine.

Bon appétit,
    Laurie

Don't stop with a dash! Use a full cup and let the wine cook down! So good with some steak or in a dish like tetrazini.

Another great method of preparation is "bronzed", which is a sort of enhanced version of the style you find in Japanese steak houses. Sautee the mushrooms in a bit of olive oil, salt and pepper, until they shrink just a little bit. Then add some soy sauce. Keep the heat on high (unless you have a really good pan and stove and they are just blackening), let them sear in the soy sauce for about half a minute, stir like mad, then sear, stir, etc. You want them cooked down fairly small, with a rich brown coating from the soy cooked on. After the first few sears if they are fully reduced and not quite bronzed, you can reduce the heat and let them and let them sit to get some final "caramelization" (it's not really caramelizing, but it looks like it).

Quote from: Kendra on September 04, 2017, 05:39:28 PM
Car surfing is easier to explain if all participants wear antlers.

Personally, I thought it would make more sense in a werewolf costume and a letterman's jacket.

Points for anyone who gets that movie reference.  Need a hint?  Scroll down a touch:











Michael J. Fox was in it.

If it's any consolation, guys turn into even bigger idiots when they are around girls.

I've never tried lighting a match in an outdoor toilet, to reduce the smell, but I don't think that I would dare with all that methane around.

Quote from: MaryT on September 06, 2017, 10:56:15 AM
If it's any consolation, guys turn into even bigger idiots when they are around girls.

I've never tried lighting a match in an outdoor toilet, to reduce the smell, but I don't think that I would dare with all that methane around.

I've seen that first hand with my brothers friends. It's another weird guy thing. I'm glad they consider me female but acting like muscle headed baboons is hardly the way to impress me or any woman. It's certainly not a turn on. Sometimes it's like I'm at the gorilla habitat at the zoo.

Perhaps some guys are just idiots, and there are some of us who don't act like idiots around anybody because we're not desperate to impress or terrified of losing face.

I just got back from my wife's village in Portugal where they have just held their annual traditional wine festival.  Lasts a week, party till 4am, everybody drinking Moscatel (like spicy sherry) by the bottle and getting totally ratted.  I digress really.

This is a traditional festival not something developed to take advantage of tourism.  The locals are all there.  Virtually everyone and those who live away come back for that week on holiday.

One of the traditions it that they barracade on street in the village with metal barriers with just the footpath around the sides and of course the ends being the ends of the road.  They cover the street in 6 inches of sand and sawdust.  at 12am ish (midnight) a lot of the village will gather there (the rest of the festival is still open so lots of people are still partying elsewhere) but the main contingent of those that gather around this temporary enclosure are the teen to mid twenties age group.  Groups of boys, Groups of girls, couples etc.

They will stand on the barriers which are circa 6ft high waiting.  And then the raging bull is released from it's transport box in one corner and eyes up all the "brave" lads sitting atop or clinging to the outside of the barriers.  The noise, cheering, "encouragement" fills the air while the bull charges at different points of the barrier and the people quickly jump off the barriers.

Then the boys/young men/young 20s will jump in and race across the street behind the bull quickly climbing and jumping off the opposite side.  The girls will cheer and applaud and encourage more and more of this and within 15 minutes there will be 3 or 4 crossing at every opportunity.  The bull is changed each half hour.  People come and go.  This carries on for a couple of hours each night.

Like I say it is traditional.  It isn't something new.  Like pre-historic tests of strength and bravery.  The "coming of age" things.  Crazy stuff.

I did silly things when I was a kid.  Not as much as other lads did but then I was always a bit more of a with the crowd but not really into what they do sort of kid.

So thats my take.  These things that almost all boys (often encouraged by peers as well as girls or the prospect of girls) do.  It is a bravado/bravery/coming of age thing.  Young people are always described as thinking they are invincible.

Similar to the over drinking or drug taking.  "Did you have a good night mate?"  "Erm I can't remember any of it!"  "Good lad, you know it makes sense, cracking night" yet no-one can remember the night.

p.s. I didn't jump over to impress my wife.  I was 30 and much too sensible to do something that dangerous.  My wife on the other hand did encourage me to have a go.  Not just Men/boys that are silly.

Quote from: Andrea Pelloti on September 14, 2017, 08:52:06 AM
> My wife on the other hand did encourage me to have a go.  Not just Men/boys that are silly.

Perhaps she is supportive and perceived (right or wrong) it's something you may have wanted to join and didn't want to be the one to hold you back.  She didn't push you over the barricade. 

Quote from: Andrea Pelloti on September 14, 2017, 08:52:06 AM
My wife on the other hand did encourage me to have a go.  Not just Men/boys that are silly.

Perhaps she knew you wouldn't and was just teasing you.  I'll bet that she would have been horrified if you had actually jumped in.

you are giving her too much credit. lol.

Me on the other hand am adept at the "whistle, whistle, Is it that time already, lets go back down for a beer" tactic.

I'm guessing this is caused by peer pressure and seeking an adrenaline rush.   Either way, it does seem to correlate with testosterone.  I think caving to peer pressure is common in males and females.  They just do it in different ways.

I would be interested to know though if many MTFs have loss their desire for adrenaline as their testosterone decreased and conversely whether FTMs desire for adrenaline increased the more their testosterone increased.

Take care,
Paige :)

Quote from: Paige on September 14, 2017, 12:51:09 PMwhether FTMs desire for adrenaline increased the more their testosterone increased.

I used to be more argumentative and threat-aware which were both correlated with adrenaline for me. I feel like I took a chill drug since HRT.

Although I do more technically dangerous activities lately, I don't get much of a rush from any of it. I'm methodical with it, that's about it. Desire for a rush? Neh. If anything I desire to feel relaxed. I suppose it's possible I do seek out more dangerous activities because there's an element of the unknown and of risk, but the testosterone prevents them from feeling dangerous? I know they are, but I definitely don't 'feel' like I'm off to do something risky.

Tomorrow I'm heading out for some diving and the recent weather washed many thousands of Portuguese man o' war jellyfish to the region. I don't particularly want to encounter any, but they're not stopping me getting out there, etc.