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Title: I was called Bigender. True?
Post by: tsukiyoarts on September 15, 2017, 12:42:52 PM
Post by: tsukiyoarts on September 15, 2017, 12:42:52 PM
Good afternoon,
By discussing at other transgender forum site, when I told my personal background, someone arrived and said I could really be bigender. Because it seemed I was both genders at the same time.
What I wrote there, was which I suffer the influence of my male body, thus I like girls. Yet, my mind leans to female since I was a child, people noticed it, but I did not back then. I did felt strange then, and I liked to a much less degree men too. Yet again, for prolonged periods of time, I do not care about romance at all. Nowadays I am on a 2 month medical supervisioned mtf HRT already.
Previously I called myself androgynous or neutrois, I know people should not seek tags, and which only the person will know their true nature, but what term you think applies better to me? Also, this is non-binary, isn't it?
Regards,
Tsukiyoarts
By discussing at other transgender forum site, when I told my personal background, someone arrived and said I could really be bigender. Because it seemed I was both genders at the same time.
What I wrote there, was which I suffer the influence of my male body, thus I like girls. Yet, my mind leans to female since I was a child, people noticed it, but I did not back then. I did felt strange then, and I liked to a much less degree men too. Yet again, for prolonged periods of time, I do not care about romance at all. Nowadays I am on a 2 month medical supervisioned mtf HRT already.
Previously I called myself androgynous or neutrois, I know people should not seek tags, and which only the person will know their true nature, but what term you think applies better to me? Also, this is non-binary, isn't it?
Regards,
Tsukiyoarts
Title: Re: I was called Bigender. True?
Post by: Rowena_Ellenweorc on September 15, 2017, 12:59:21 PM
Post by: Rowena_Ellenweorc on September 15, 2017, 12:59:21 PM
'suffer the influence of my male body' -- this is probably the most telling statement of your identity in my opinion.
To be honest, you should go with whatever label feels most comfortable. But the above phrase indicates to me that its not really so much bigender, or even androgyny, but that your physical really doesn't match with how you see yourself. I don't know if that means you want to be seen/read/pass as female, but it does indicate that you are more on the female side than the male side of the gender spectrum.
The main reason I identify as just simple non-binary (sometimes adding transmasculine onto that) is because I 'suffer the influence of my female body'. But do I want to be seen/read/pass as a man? I dunno. That's why I like the more generalized terms. Because someone says you might be bigender, doesn't mean that's what you have to be. When I started out on this journey, someone told me I might be gender fluid. But that doesn't feel like the right title for me. Its not that I see myself as both genders and want to present as one one day and a different one the next or however the best way to describe it is.
Anyway, I find that the non-binary title fits me really great since its a diverse spectrum. Perhaps that's the label that fits you best instead of tying yourself down to very specific labels.
(As for being non-binary... I definitely think yes you fit under that umbrella... Non-binary just means you don't fit within the binary [aka male or female standard definitions])
To be honest, you should go with whatever label feels most comfortable. But the above phrase indicates to me that its not really so much bigender, or even androgyny, but that your physical really doesn't match with how you see yourself. I don't know if that means you want to be seen/read/pass as female, but it does indicate that you are more on the female side than the male side of the gender spectrum.
The main reason I identify as just simple non-binary (sometimes adding transmasculine onto that) is because I 'suffer the influence of my female body'. But do I want to be seen/read/pass as a man? I dunno. That's why I like the more generalized terms. Because someone says you might be bigender, doesn't mean that's what you have to be. When I started out on this journey, someone told me I might be gender fluid. But that doesn't feel like the right title for me. Its not that I see myself as both genders and want to present as one one day and a different one the next or however the best way to describe it is.
Anyway, I find that the non-binary title fits me really great since its a diverse spectrum. Perhaps that's the label that fits you best instead of tying yourself down to very specific labels.
(As for being non-binary... I definitely think yes you fit under that umbrella... Non-binary just means you don't fit within the binary [aka male or female standard definitions])
Title: Re: I was called Bigender. True?
Post by: tsukiyoarts on September 15, 2017, 07:03:36 PM
Post by: tsukiyoarts on September 15, 2017, 07:03:36 PM
Quote from: Rowena_Ellenweorc on September 15, 2017, 12:59:21 PMAnyway, I find that the non-binary title fits me really great since its a diverse spectrum. Perhaps that's the label that fits you best instead of tying yourself down to very specific labels.
Good night Rowena,
Wisely said! I will start using more broader definitions then. I sometimes think which in an attempt to categorize how one transgender person differs from the other, which countless number of terms are created; which in the end lead to confusion between our community and those outside it.
Kind regards,
Tsukiyoarts
Title: Re: I was called Bigender. True?
Post by: Rowena_Ellenweorc on September 15, 2017, 07:46:37 PM
Post by: Rowena_Ellenweorc on September 15, 2017, 07:46:37 PM
Quote from: tsukiyoarts on September 15, 2017, 07:03:36 PM
Good night Rowena,
Wisely said! I will start using more broader definitions then. I sometimes think which in an attempt to categorize how one transgender person differs from the other, which countless number of terms are created; which in the end lead to confusion between our community and those outside it.
Kind regards,
Tsukiyoarts
The most important thing to remember is simply that no matter your label, or what anyone says about it, you do you. The world around us, within or without the trans* community might not understand anything but binary definitions, but that doesn't make you any less you, or your identity less valid.
If you are certain that you're supposed to be an alien, then you're an alien, even if the world doesn't understand. ;) Don't let the world determine your identity, you determine that.
Title: Re: I was called Bigender. True?
Post by: tsukiyoarts on September 15, 2017, 08:18:12 PM
Post by: tsukiyoarts on September 15, 2017, 08:18:12 PM
Quote from: Rowena_Ellenweorc on September 15, 2017, 07:46:37 PM
The most important thing to remember is simply that no matter your label, or what anyone says about it, you do you. The world around us, within or without the trans* community might not understand anything but binary definitions, but that doesn't make you any less you, or your identity less valid.
If you are certain that you're supposed to be an alien, then you're an alien, even if the world doesn't understand. ;) Don't let the world determine your identity, you determine that.
Goood night,
Alien? Like in this image I made about my measures at my HRT topic?
(https://s26.postimg.org/z419xjvsp/human_body.jpg)
My humorous identity indeed identify as alien. :laugh:
Humorously,
Tsukiyoarts
Title: Re: I was called Bigender. True?
Post by: Rowena_Ellenweorc on September 15, 2017, 08:21:32 PM
Post by: Rowena_Ellenweorc on September 15, 2017, 08:21:32 PM
HAHAHAHA that's really funny. And sheer coincidence since I've not read your HRT topic LOL.