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I'm mtf transgender. Lately I have been really depressed because I did not start hrt at age 13 or earlier. My bone structure gives me very much dysphoria and the thought that before I did not have this <not allowed> up skeleton but I have it now really drives me crazy.

When I was 15 I started transition but because I live in a country where you can only get hormones in a few hospitals and those hospitals have very very long waiting lists and way too much aquired psychiatry before being able to start transtition, I started at age 17 with puberty blockers. (so they made me wait 2 years before starting puberty blockers, you can legally start puberty blockers at age 12 here)

The doctor told me I was still in puberty so puberty blockers would still work better than just testosterone blockers for some reason. Half a year later I started with female hormones.

So what I wonder is did I avoid any male devolopment at all? I was told that untill age 18 is when a male is in puberty usually and between age 18 and 25 a male usually develops a little bit more. Or is this not true? The road to get blockers and hormones was a living hell so it would give me rest in my head if I indeed avoided some development and the struggle was not for nothing.




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Everyone develops at a somewhat different rate but I expect that you still underwent much of male puberty.  For me my height was finished growing by 17.  After that I got more darker facial hair over time and possibly more muscle development.  On the muscle development though I'm not sure how much of that was more puberty and how much was just a few years of working out and exercising.  Since I weigh the same now at age 58 as I did at 17 I expect that not much more, if any, permanent development happened after that.


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Quote from: Deborah on December 05, 2017, 06:03:22 PM
Everyone develops at a somewhat different rate but I expect that you still underwent much of male puberty.  For me my height was finished growing by 17.  After that I got more darker facial hair over time and possibly more muscle development.  On the muscle development though I'm not sure how much of that was more puberty and how much was just a few years of working out and exercising.  Since I weigh the same now at age 58 as I did at 17 I expect that not much more, if any, permanent development happened after that.


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Thankyou for your answer. But the skeleton? I heard that the height, broadness etc of the skeleton is finished growing at 18, but that the bones become thicker and more prominent from 18 to 25. I see it in my face and body that it is not that of a biological man of my age or is that just genetics?

Quote from: V M on December 05, 2017, 07:44:44 PM
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Heey, thankyou :D

Quote from: Weltschmerz on December 06, 2017, 07:56:07 AM
Thankyou for your answer. But the skeleton? I heard that the height, broadness etc of the skeleton is finished growing at 18, but that the bones become thicker and more prominent from 18 to 25. I see it in my face and body that it is not that of a biological man of my age or is that just genetics?

It could be just genetics.  I always had a high testosterone level and yet my face remained somewhat effeminate.   I also never had much body hair nor did I ever lose any head hair.

However, if you are genetically predisposed to develop heavy masculine features in the face then maybe that would increase over time while testosterone remains high.

The rest of the bones may become heavier and more dense over time but that is actually a good thing that happens with both estrogen and testosterone when you exercise.  Thin and weak bones are a bad thing for either sex.


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Well on your bone development. We still develop with bone structure. Now puberty blockers from what I read do to an extent limit broad shoulder development and other male features. Ultimately some things we can't stop because genetics still do their thing i.e. height, build, and bone structure. As far as the body hair, facial hair, and fat distribution gets altered a lot. Many on puberty blockers don't worry with laser hair removal because the beard hair gets stopped in it's tracks. So yes you are right that it does stop some things and not others. I have seen some great results from puberty blockers as well as testosterone blockers. So I believe both ways have their advantages and disadvantages.