Community Conversation => Non-binary talk => Topic started by: Lady Lisandra on January 15, 2018, 06:40:22 PM Return to Full Version
Title: Could I pass as a male again?
Post by: Lady Lisandra on January 15, 2018, 06:40:22 PM
Post by: Lady Lisandra on January 15, 2018, 06:40:22 PM
I believe my level of androgyny has dropped in the last months, probably due to the effect of hormones. I'm gendered female 99% of the times, at least face to face and I usually need at least to dress in a very masculine way to be gendered male, but today a woman came to the hotel I work at (I believe my clothes lately are rather feminine), asking for a room, and told me "I know you, you're Lazaro's brother". I don't know her and I'm not sure where she knows me from, but could I pbe starting to pass again as a guy? Last week there was a host who also thought I was male, so it may not be an isolated incident.
So...what do you think? Here are some photos of me.
https://imgur.com/a/qVhXw
So...what do you think? Here are some photos of me.
https://imgur.com/a/qVhXw
Title: Re: Could I pass as a male again?
Post by: HappyMoni on January 15, 2018, 06:59:13 PM
Post by: HappyMoni on January 15, 2018, 06:59:13 PM
Lis,
Don't see guy at all. I think the one person knew you only through the context of seeing you before as related to their friend. That's not a clocking really.
Moni
Don't see guy at all. I think the one person knew you only through the context of seeing you before as related to their friend. That's not a clocking really.
Moni
Title: Re: Could I pass as a male again?
Post by: Allison S on January 15, 2018, 07:01:54 PM
Post by: Allison S on January 15, 2018, 07:01:54 PM
I think you pass but photos don't account for voice, mannerisms, even the way you carry yourself/walk. Still solely based on how you look, even with any seemingly male gender marker, you are female. Which to any person that means, yeah, you pass. It's very weird they misgender you.
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Title: Re: Could I pass as a male again?
Post by: Lady Lisandra on January 15, 2018, 07:52:56 PM
Post by: Lady Lisandra on January 15, 2018, 07:52:56 PM
The thing is, she's never seen me before. She's the mother of one of my brother's schoolmates. He's 5yo, and at least in his current school, I've always been his older SISTER.
Title: Re: Could I pass as a male again?
Post by: Michelle_P on January 15, 2018, 08:03:23 PM
Post by: Michelle_P on January 15, 2018, 08:03:23 PM
Posture and mannerisms provide subconscious gender hints to a person looking at us. It's not just facial structure or body form. If you were to ASK someone why they gendered us the way they do, they would likely make up a tale to explain what their preoptic cortex did, as gender recognition in a casual encounter is not a conscious process in the vast majority of people.
Head and mouth motion, gait, and posture are all cues to this recognition process, along with static physical appearance. (I've been clocked from behind, although not recently, I think 🤔 ).
Head and mouth motion, gait, and posture are all cues to this recognition process, along with static physical appearance. (I've been clocked from behind, although not recently, I think 🤔 ).
Title: Re: Could I pass as a male again?
Post by: Lady Lisandra on January 15, 2018, 08:35:07 PM
Post by: Lady Lisandra on January 15, 2018, 08:35:07 PM
Meh... she didn't come back. Anyways...I'll continue to post if anything similar happens. Also, I've added another photo without hair on my face.
Thanks for the opinions!
Thanks for the opinions!
Title: Re: Could I pass as a male again?
Post by: mako9802 on January 16, 2018, 09:10:26 AM
Post by: mako9802 on January 16, 2018, 09:10:26 AM
Definitely female....but with a twist.
Title: Re: Could I pass as a male again?
Post by: natalie.ashlyne on January 16, 2018, 09:16:21 AM
Post by: natalie.ashlyne on January 16, 2018, 09:16:21 AM
I see female