Susan's Place Transgender Resources

Hi gurls,

I am pre-everything and I am unemployed right now. I am full time for 1 week. It tooks me a lot of courage to go public but I have nothing to loose because everyone that were close to me didn't accepted and are now gone.  There are good days and other less good. What worries me the most is will I be able to find a job that accept MTF?  The question is: do you have any good or bad stories about finding a new job?

I couldn't resist attaching a picture with my new wig, hearrings and nose piercing but no makeup...

Thanks

Sabrina(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180428/2c7137937f504c432d2d7323726cc764.jpg)

Envoyé de mon LG-H873 en utilisant Tapatalk

Oh wow you look like my brother in law who wore a wig. You have the exact same eyes!!
I think for being pre hrt you're doing just fine. Your face is already rounded, I don't see any masculine structure (usually jaw/chin) and your eyebrows are good!
Only thing is to try to use concealer to cover up a bit of the shadow

Sent from my SM-G930T using Tapatalk

I have found several in the female role so I would think it would be possible for you as well. It might be a bit more difficult not only because your transgender but because your female. If you work in a profession where it's difficult to find employees, you will find it less difficult to find work so go out there and get that job.

Quote from: dizz on April 28, 2018, 12:20:18 AM
Hi gurls,

I am pre-everything and I am unemployed right now. I am full time for 1 week. It tooks me a lot of courage to go public but I have nothing to loose because everyone that were close to me didn't accepted and are now gone.  There are good days and other less good. What worries me the most is will I be able to find a job that accept MTF?  The question is: do you have any good or bad stories about finding a new job?

I couldn't resist attaching a picture with my new wig, hearrings and nose piercing but no makeup...

Thanks

Sabrina(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180428/2c7137937f504c432d2d7323726cc764.jpg)

Envoyé de mon LG-H873 en utilisant Tapatalk

Alot of it is confidence.. or monkey see/monkey do.  Girls learn that at the age of 5 onwards, to 'act' like a woman. You just have a bit of catching up to do :) 

As far as explaining m2f, ... don't? Unless you have to.  If you already have your name changed just roll with it on your new application.  When they ask you gender, mark the one you feel you are.  Most jobs only care about how you can improve their bottom line, they don't really care about personal issues.  IN fact if you can avoid personal issues at work, that's a good way to keep employment.  As opposed to making personal issue front & center in every interaction in their business. 

That's just my personal approach, not saying its right or wrong for anyone.  It has worked for me over the eons.

Sabrina, that pic is gorgeous girl. I am also pre-everything but not planning to come out to "the public" for awhile. So I really admire your bravery and Moxie.

For job stuff, if you have any skills to capitalize on that could be a big boost. I work retail and I got a job at a craft store's frame shop because of my art degree. The biggest thing is to show you want to work there. My boss always says they want people who want to work. So being passionate and talking on why you will be great at it is a good start.

A lot of time hiring comes down to gut feeling. There is no equation, just the boss deciding who they want to see everday for god knows how long. So if you can make a personal connection to show you have social chemistry and show you are competent than that is the biggest thing imho.

Good luck with the search and never stop being beautiful

Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk

Thank you for all your great answer. I have to increase my self confidence before going to an interview. I am a computer and web site developer with a lot of experience. As a man I can find a job easily. I cannot change my name before I get SRS here so a long way to go since I am pre-everything.

Envoyé de mon LG-H873 en utilisant Tapatalk

I have a degree in art myself! The good thing about that is that if you have a lot of trouble with companies freelance is always an option. If you make a few new pieces for your portfolio, it will probably help you feel more confidant too. Creative fields are great because you always have the chance to impress them with your work.

Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk

Hello Dizz
I just wanted to congratulate you for your exceeding courage. Know that your family here will show you unconditional love and support throughout your journey. I'm sorry what happened to your real family but it sounds like that would happen at some point anyways. You are one tough cookie going out there in the real world searching for a job I'm glad your past is not hindering you in this. I am so impressed with your determination it's very inspiring to me. I wouldn't even considering going out job hunting pre everything because I feel cursed with this big masculine body that kept me in the closet until very recently, hats off to you. best of luck with your job-hunting be sure and let us know what you find as I'm sure you will be successful due to your determination in all you do.

Best wishes love Tatiana

Quote from: Tatiana 79 on April 30, 2018, 06:36:09 AM
Hello Dizz
I just wanted to congratulate you for your exceeding courage. Know that your family here will show you unconditional love and support throughout your journey. I'm sorry what happened to your real family but it sounds like that would happen at some point anyways. You are one tough cookie going out there in the real world searching for a job I'm glad your past is not hindering you in this. I am so impressed with your determination it's very inspiring to me. I wouldn't even considering going out job hunting pre everything because I feel cursed with this big masculine body that kept me in the closet until very recently, hats off to you. best of luck with your job-hunting be sure and let us know what you find as I'm sure you will be successful due to your determination in all you do.

Best wishes love Tatiana

Than you very much Tatiana but I did not tried to find a job yet because I am too much scared right now. I am full time but I still fear people reaction. I am not able to hide all my male apparence yet. I am 6ft tall with big hands and feet.

You can call me Sabrina [emoji4]

Envoyé de mon LG-H873 en utilisant Tapatalk

Sabrina, another good idea may be to look into remote work. That has the structure of employment with the privacy of the home.

Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk

Quote from: dizz on April 30, 2018, 08:11:41 AM
Than you very much Tatiana but I did not tried to find a job yet because I am too much scared right now. I am full time but I still fear people reaction. I am not able to hide all my male apparence yet. I am 6ft tall with big hands and feet.

Sabrina, I saw your photo on another thread.  With a pretty face like that, no one is going to be looking at your hands and feet!  You are beautiful.

Quote from: KathyLauren on April 30, 2018, 08:56:39 AM
Sabrina, I saw your photo on another thread.  With a pretty face like that, no one is going to be looking at your hands and feet!  You are beautiful.

Thank you Kathy [emoji4]

Envoyé de mon LG-H873 en utilisant Tapatalk

I say just be you. If someplace won't hire you because of who you are, you do not want to work there anyhow.

Show up dressed the way you expect to work and make no apologies.

FYI, Federal gov't agencies, especially USDA, are making a big push for inclusiveness. I work in a USDA office and I can show up dressed male one day, and female the next, and nobody much cares.

Quote from: Jin on April 30, 2018, 03:36:40 PM
I say just be you. If someplace won't hire you because of who you are, you do not want to work there anyhow.

Show up dressed the way you expect to work and make no apologies.

FYI, Federal gov't agencies, especially USDA, are making a big push for inclusiveness. I work in a USDA office and I can show up dressed male one day, and female the next, and nobody much cares.

Thank you. [emoji4] You are right, if they don't want to hire me for being true to myself and to them this not the good place. This is a very good way to think IMHO. Thanks again.

Sabrina

Envoyé de mon LG-H873 en utilisant Tapatalk

Quote from: Allison S on April 28, 2018, 05:56:25 PM
Oh wow you look like my brother in law who wore a wig. You have the exact same eyes!!
I think for being pre hrt you're doing just fine. Your face is already rounded, I don't see any masculine structure (usually jaw/chin) and your eyebrows are good!
Only thing is to try to use concealer to cover up a bit of the shadow

Sent from my SM-G930T using Tapatalk

Thank you. Yes I know for the concealer I did just woke up on this picture. About concealer, what brand do you use because it is hard to hide beard on my side. Really eager to laser it off [emoji6]

Envoyé de mon LG-H873 en utilisant Tapatalk

Quote from: Lady Love on April 29, 2018, 12:12:17 AM
Sabrina, that pic is gorgeous girl. I am also pre-everything but not planning to come out to "the public" for awhile. So I really admire your bravery and Moxie.

For job stuff, if you have any skills to capitalize on that could be a big boost. I work retail and I got a job at a craft store's frame shop because of my art degree. The biggest thing is to show you want to work there. My boss always says they want people who want to work. So being passionate and talking on why you will be great at it is a good start.

A lot of time hiring comes down to gut feeling. There is no equation, just the boss deciding who they want to see everday for god knows how long. So if you can make a personal connection to show you have social chemistry and show you are competent than that is the biggest thing imho.

Good luck with the search and never stop being beautiful

Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk

You should try to go public in a place you go for the first time. My trick is to smile to everybody and most of the time they smile back and forget about you appearance. You look great by the way, you will pass for sure.

Envoyé de mon LG-H873 en utilisant Tapatalk

No one, where I work know that I was not born female, and its none of their business. My ID says female and I look and dress female so that is what I am..

Quote from: dizz on May 01, 2018, 05:53:30 AM
You should try to go public in a place you go for the first time. My trick is to smile to everybody and most of the time they smile back and forget about you appearance. You look great by the way, you will pass for sure.

Envoyé de mon LG-H873 en utilisant Tapatalk

Thanks Sabrina :) you're sweet

I was planning to go the park sometime with my girlfriend in a skirt, maybe even a dress. Honestly, the hardest part right now is  my beard. I love my beard, but it does make me a little scared to present femme. I also have fairly hairy arms and legs. I am havent actually used a razor to shave in years, so its kind of a big project to shave myself to be skirt ready.

After a day with no shave my girlfriend started calling me her sandpaper princess xD

Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk

Quote from: Lady Love on May 01, 2018, 06:44:26 AM
Thanks Sabrina :) you're sweet

I was planning to go the park sometime with my girlfriend in a skirt, maybe even a dress. Honestly, the hardest part right now is  my beard. I love my beard, but it does make me a little scared to present femme. I also have fairly hairy arms and legs. I am havent actually used a razor to shave in years, so its kind of a big project to shave myself to be skirt ready.

After a day with no shave my girlfriend started calling me her sandpaper princess xD

Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk

I use an epilator like Braun silk epil for my body. At first it hurts bad but after it is just maintenance. It takes a good week before hair shows up. For the beard there is no magic, shave every day until laser does its job.

Envoyé de mon LG-H873 en utilisant Tapatalk

Quote from: dizz on May 01, 2018, 05:27:00 AM
Thank you. Yes I know for the concealer I did just woke up on this picture. About concealer, what brand do you use because it is hard to hide beard on my side. Really eager to laser it off [emoji6]

Envoyé de mon LG-H873 en utilisant Tapatalk

I went to kryolan store before hrt for their paint sticks and the person that works there helped me get one. I used a really light stick and it covered my shadow and dark circles really well.
It is on the thick side though and can be a bit "cakey".
Since doing laser I use some foundation and loose powder.
It's best to go to a makeup counter/department and ask.


Sent from my SM-G930T using Tapatalk

Quote from: dizz on May 01, 2018, 07:56:20 AM
I use an epilator like Braun silk epil for my body. At first it hurts bad but after it is just maintenance. It takes a good week before hair shows up. For the beard there is no magic, shave every day until laser does its job.

Envoyé de mon LG-H873 en utilisant Tapatalk

Thank you, I will work on this. I like having no beard but honestly I like touching my soft smooth face so much too :) i have started using moisturizer so that helps. And feels very nice

Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk

A woman approached me on linkedIn for a job after I changed my profile picture and my name. I have told her the truth, that my real name is XYZ but that I prefer Sabrina because I am transitioning. She answered No problem.

I was stunned! This the biggest IT company in my province with 2000 employees...

So monday is the decisive day. I really I hope I will get the job.

I am full time for around only 2 weeks and I have to practice my voice for a more feminine voice. It will be hard to focus on my feminine things during an interview that we also have to focus on the contents of what we say.

I will post updates after my interview.

Sabrina
We are not WYSIWYG

Envoyé de mon LG-H873 en utilisant Tapatalk

Monday is my second interview for the same job as Sabrina... If all goes well I will work on a contract with a national train company. Sabrina, continue to impress me...

On a side note, got 2 pairs of heels and boots today that fits my big feet. I do pretty well on heels, maybe some f dna inside me. [emoji23] Very love the sexy walk it makes with 3 inches heels

Envoyé de mon LG-H873 en utilisant Tapatalk

Hi Sabrina!

I am a little late to the party here but I just wanted to say that picture of you with your new wig is amazing! You look fantastic! It is hard to believe you are pre-everything. You are going to do very well! ;)


xoxoxo
Alyssa

Going to my second interview [emoji4](https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180514/02224d37eadb327d7b1984d7c651f1ea.jpg)

Envoyé de mon LG-H873 en utilisant Tapatalk

I have got the job! Hurray. It was my first interview as Sabrina and the contract was delayed to beginning of August but I got it. So proud of me. Btw all my family saw me as women and they are ok with that. it has been 2 months since I am full time. Everything is going great except for my wife that is very very upset and manipulate my children so they don't want to see me. I am doing great anyway. Thank you all for your great support. [emoji4]

Envoyé de mon LG-H873 en utilisant Tapatalk

Hello Sabrina

Congratulations on getting the job and I hope you enjoy your job in August as your true self.

I am disappointed to hear your wife is most opposed to your transition and is manipulating the children. This must really hurt and I do sympathise. However all may not be lost on this front as in many cases here on Susan's, wives or other family members do change their mind over time and accept especially when they see that we are the same person despite transitioning and that we are much happier in transition. Just give it time.

I wish you every success for your future.

Hugs

Pamela

Congratulations on getting the job!

Sorry that your wife isn't taking your transition well.  I hope she is able to mellow out a bit.

Congrats Sabrina on landing that job as you! Hopefully the kids will come around.  Please don't give up hope on them.

Bari Jo

Finally my first day at work!! Yeah baby [emoji4](https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180806/d0d7840df93d35be517a7d54b88d9667.jpg)

Envoyé de mon LG-H873 en utilisant Tapatalk

Quote from: dizz on August 06, 2018, 12:09:03 PM
Finally my first day at work!! Yeah baby [emoji4](https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180806/d0d7840df93d35be517a7d54b88d9667.jpg)

Envoyé de mon LG-H873 en utilisant Tapatalk

@dizz
Dear Dizz:
I am so very happy for you....
..... terrific and wonderful picture of you wearing your work badge!!!!!

Thank you for sharing your happy moment with all of your friends here on the Forums.

Hugs, and well wishes,
Danielle

Congratulations on the new job!  You are the mirror image of an ex co-worker who was in more or less the same line of work you are in. I swear you two could pass for twins! She is also very attractive. Good luck with the job and everything else. May all go your way.

I think you have very marketable skills as a computer and web site developer with a lot of experience. I recommend that you apply for companies that are LGBTQ friendly or have explicit written language on their website that they will not discriminate because of "gender identity or expression." Those 4 words are key!

I think the Human Rights Campaign publishes annually a listing of companies that have policy of inclusion towards Trans people. Check out their listing and identify the companies that you are interested in working then apply.

Also, I would focus on sectors that are creative/liberal/tolerant. I don't recommend applying for Financial Services companies as they tend to be conservative and not open to hiring those who don't fit the mold. Most Law companies are very tolerant and do not discriminate on anyone on the LGBT spectrum. They would get sued! :)


Good luck / Bon Courage!

Quote from: Nina_NYC on August 11, 2018, 08:44:33 PM
I think you have very marketable skills as a computer and web site developer with a lot of experience. I recommend that you apply for companies that are LGBTQ friendly or have explicit written language on their website that they will not discriminate because of "gender identity or expression." Those 4 words are key!

I think the Human Rights Campaign publishes annually a listing of companies that have policy of inclusion towards Trans people. Check out their listing and identify the companies that you are interested in working then apply.

Also, I would focus on sectors that are creative/liberal/tolerant. I don't recommend applying for Financial Services companies as they tend to be conservative and not open to hiring those who don't fit the mold. Most Law companies are very tolerant and do not discriminate on anyone on the LGBT spectrum. They would get sued! :)


Good luck / Bon Courage!

disregard my previous post - clearly i missed the additional posts since your original posting - congrats on your new position!

:)

Hey Sabrina!!!

Congrats little sister!,,...I live fairly close to Silicon Valley area and know many trans women who have done well in the computer tech industry... From what I have seen, it seems to be a pretty tolerant industry for the most part... All good things to you as you move forward into a life that will finally be your own!

Onward we go brave sister!!!

Ashley 😀💕🌻

Hi everyone,
it's been a long time since last update. At my work everyone are great with me. My boss even told me that I am the best of my team. There is a possibility that I become team lead on 2019. I am so happy that my transidentity is not a barrier to my career.

So happy to be me!
Sabrina

P.S. here is a picture of me is the bus going to work [emoji4](https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190107/20f0850b2770e79d0be986ea76a8bdd0.jpg)

Envoyé de mon LM-Q910 en utilisant Tapatalk

Quote from: Sabrina Hope on January 06, 2019, 08:50:34 PM
Hi everyone,
it's been a long time since last update. At my work everyone are great with me. My boss even told me that I am the best of my team. There is a possibility that I become team lead on 2019. I am so happy that my transidentity is not a barrier to my career.

So happy to be me!
Sabrina

P.S. here is a picture of me is the bus going to work [emoji4](https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190107/20f0850b2770e79d0be986ea76a8bdd0.jpg)

Envoyé de mon LM-Q910 en utilisant Tapatalk

What an awesome update Sabrina!!!... I'm so glad things are going well... You're Livin' Life and Lovin' Life.... That's what all this stuff is about!!! Congrats on courageously claiming a life gets that is finally and truly your own!!! 😃👍

Onward we go brave sister!!!

Ashley 🙋‍♀️💕🌸

Hi Sabrina,

That is fantastic news!

Marion

Quote from: Sabrina Hope on January 06, 2019, 08:50:34 PM
Hi everyone,
it's been a long time since last update. At my work everyone are great with me. My boss even told me that I am the best of my team. There is a possibility that I become team lead on 2019. I am so happy that my transidentity is not a barrier to my career.

So happy to be me!
Sabrina

P.S. here is a picture of me is the bus going to work [emoji4](https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190107/20f0850b2770e79d0be986ea76a8bdd0.jpg)

Envoyé de mon LM-Q910 en utilisant Tapatalk

Hi Sabrina,                  07 January 2019

Just want to publicly welcome you back. I'm going to copy a post of yours so those that are new here can see what a wonderful Parent and Lady you are. So here goes:

Quote from: Sabrina Hope on August 12, 2018, 12:06:54 AM
I have saw ( sorry for my English with verb tenses ) my children a full day for the first time since my transition. To make a long story short my ex wife teaches them to hate me. I went to the beach and played with them in the lake. This was also the first close contacts with them because they were climbing on me in the inflatable boat. They asked me to wear man clothes but since I don't have any I went for neutral short and t-shirt. Also no wig but my hair are slowly growing and the are colored like my wig. I did keep all my piercings, toenails polish and my woman sunglasses. This was a really nice day. I will keep adding things progressively so they get used to my new appearance without thinking they are loosing their dad. They called me daddy all day and I don't mind if they keep this name even if I am a woman. I will do anything to keep them in my life.

Envoyé de mon LG-H873 en utilisant Tapatalk

Your children will always love you for the courageous way you are living your life and being a great parent and Lady.

Last but not least, you are very beautiful; please keep posting your photos.

Best Always, Love
Chris

Sabrina, I am happy for you that your work is going so well!  I am keeping my fingers crossed that you get that team lead position.

Quote from: luckygirl on January 07, 2019, 02:42:14 AM
You're gonna be a beauty.

"Gonna be"??  She already is!

Quote from: KathyLauren on January 07, 2019, 07:00:31 AM
Sabrina, I am happy for you that your work is going so well!  I am keeping my fingers crossed that you get that team lead position.

"Gonna be"??  She already is!

Hi Kathy,                      08 January 2019

Thanks for your comment regarding that demeaning post/comment. My personal opinion is that it was made out of shear jealousy. Sabrina is absolutely gorgeous; she reminds me of Jamie Lee Curtis. You can't get more beautiful than that.

Thank you again.

Best Always, Love
Christine

Quote from: christinej78 on January 08, 2019, 04:43:19 PM
Sabrina is absolutely gorgeous; she reminds me of Jamie Lee Curtis. You can't get more beautiful than that.
Best Always, Love
Christine

Quote from: KathyLauren on January 07, 2019, 07:00:31 AM
Sabrina, I am happy for you that your work is going so well!  I am keeping my fingers crossed that you get that team lead position.
"Gonna be"??  She already is!

@Sabrina Hope      cc:  @christinej78   @KathyLauren   
Dear Sabrina:
Take our word for it, you look absolutely beautiful... 
.... thank you for sharing your photo with us.

Please keep posting your updates and if you feel so led, more pictures???
Hugs,
Danielle

Quote from: Sabrina Hope on January 06, 2019, 08:50:34 PM
Hi everyone,
it's been a long time since last update. At my work everyone are great with me. My boss even told me that I am the best of my team. There is a possibility that I become team lead on 2019. I am so happy that my transidentity is not a barrier to my career.

So happy to be me!
Sabrina

P.S. here is a picture of me is the bus going to work [emoji4](https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190107/20f0850b2770e79d0be986ea76a8bdd0.jpg)

Envoyé de mon LM-Q910 en utilisant Tapatalk

@Sabrina Hope
Dear Sabrina:

I am wishing you success in getting your job promotion in this new year...  we are all wishing you well.
Please know that we are you biggest fans and we are always rooting for you.

You look terrific in your going to work photo ... on the bus...  !!!  :)

Hugs and well wishes,
Danielle