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I have been on Estrogen for nearly 3 weeks now, blockers 2 days thus far. I'm not sure if there's any developments of note I have seen, initially my chest was senstive after the 3 day mark but it has not been like that since then after nearly 3 weeks, I'm not sure if I should be concerned by this or if my estrogen is just now failing to do it's job, my right chest seems a little bigger than my left but then I'm not the slimmest of people so it could very well be just moob fat as opposed to female chest development, I never really paid attention to it before so honestly can't tell but given how my chest is no longer sensitive maybe it just fat from my not so healthy diet, if anyone has input or advice that helps give insight to this I'd appreciate it as right now I'm somewhat concerned any development I may have had at the start is just dead in the water, I've seen no facial improvement and my hands are still like shovels etc

Honestly from what I have heard and understand it would probably take longer than 3 weeks for the estrogen to show any effect.  I myself haven't started yet I start the 1st of June and I myself much like you.would love for the effect to be instant but from my understanding it could take months even years for the effect to be truly noticeable.  With that being said I do also know that it is much harder for oneself to notice a difference but friends and family may notice the difference sooner than you would.

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Quote from: TranSketch on May 26, 2018, 08:25:37 PM
I have been on Estrogen for nearly 3 weeks now, blockers 2 days thus far. I'm not sure if there's any developments of note I have seen, initially my chest was senstive after the 3 day mark but it has not been like that since then after nearly 3 weeks, I'm not sure if I should be concerned by this or if my estrogen is just now failing to do it's job, my right chest seems a little bigger than my left but then I'm not the slimmest of people so it could very well be just moob fat as opposed to female chest development, I never really paid attention to it before so honestly can't tell but given how my chest is no longer sensitive maybe it just fat from my not so healthy diet, if anyone has input or advice that helps give insight to this I'd appreciate it as right now I'm somewhat concerned any development I may have had at the start is just dead in the water, I've seen no facial improvement and my hands are still like shovels etc

@TranSketch    No worries ... what you are describing is completely normal in my experience.  It is way too soon to draw any conclusions or even guesses about your Estrogen working as it should.  The only way to know for sure is your next blood tests that your doctor can evaluate... 

Your chest/nipple sensitivity will go up and down over the first 3 or 4 months or more, and one side getting larger than the other is a much reported normal occurrence.    Most of the time after much longer HRT, they will usually even out... it took me about one and a half years for my right boob to catch up with my left boob.

Again, in my opinion based on my own experience it is way too soon to expect a lot of changes in your body, face, hands, etc. 

HRT affects every body differently and at different speeds....  some members postings that you read will tell about quicker and more significant changes compared to other's reports of slower and less significant changes.   Patience is required... usually nothing happens very quickly with HRT...  certainly not as quickly as we all desire...
Human nature dictates... "We want it ALL, and we want it NOW"   
.... again... PATIENCE !!!   Certainly easier said than done.

I will be watching for your updates as you post them.
Thank you for letting us on the Forums know how you are doing and how you are feeling.

HUGS,
Danielle

Quote from: Alaskan Danielle on May 26, 2018, 08:47:38 PM
@TranSketch    No worries ... what you are describing is completely normal in my experience.  It is way too soon to draw any conclusions or even guesses about your Estrogen working as it should.  The only way to know for sure is your next blood tests that your doctor can evaluate... 

Your chest/nipple sensitivity will go up and down over the first 3 or 4 months or more, and one side getting larger than the other is a much reported normal occurrence.    Most of the time after much longer HRT, they will usually even out... it took me about one and a half years for my right boob to catch up with my left boob.

Again, in my opinion based on my own experience it is way too soon to expect a lot of changes in your body, face, hands, etc. 

HRT affects every body differently and at different speeds....  some members postings that you read will tell about quicker and more significant changes compared to other's reports of slower and less significant changes.   Patience is required... usually nothing happens very quickly with HRT...  certainly not as quickly as we all desire...
Human nature dictates... "We want it ALL, and we want it NOW"   
.... again... PATIENCE !!!   Certainly easier said than done.

I will be watching for your updates as you post them.
Thank you for letting us on the Forums know how you are doing and how you are feeling.

HUGS,
Danielle

@TranSketch , @Alaskan Danielle is so right!  Wait for your first blood tests before making conclusions.  Certainly your doctor will review them and make any changes that they feel are necessary.
Danielle is also on point when describing how you could experience the medication in the beginning.  But there is the "ymmv"...your mileage may vary.  Everyone is unique in mind, body and soul.  Effects can be slight or pronounced, a lot of it depends on your genetics.  Moms got big butt and boobs?  There is a chance that you will inherit that from her.  One thing that happened to me quickly, was my skin softening and my demeanor was not as agitated and calmer.  I personally experienced, what I can describe as getting used to the the estrogen, becoming more emotional in waves.  My emotions sometimes seemed irrational and overblown.  There are those here that can attest to it.

Danielle had her race between lefty and righty.  I'm having the same with my girls Lucy and Rhonda.  Rhonda is in the lead by a nipple.

So relax, it's a slow process.
Hugs and smiles, Jessica

Same thing happened to me I noticed a ton of changes the first week then it slowed down. It takes months for your hormone levels to hit therapeutic levels so be patient. My doctor has adjusted my doses several times in the first three months. Breast development happens in growth spurts too. Mine did a lot the first week then nothing and now they are growing again rapidly at the 100 day mark.


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In my experience it wasnt just the time it takes for the hormones to work, but the months it took to get my dosage right so that I was at the correct levels. First 3 month review my estrogen levels were meh, and my testosterone levels were meh

I read all of these timelines online, "after 1 month this will happen, after 3 months this will happen etc etc" and I didn't hit a single one of them. Some things were earlier than expected, some later, some never really happened (damn you body hair grrrrrr). Part of the journey is not knowing about what will happen when or how. Its one of the reasons why any surgeon of repute wants a decent period of hormones before considering BA. Enjoy the experience and keep us up tom date with your progress!

Emma

Only 3 weeks of HRT?  :o

The only thing I experienced at 3 weeks is the psychological relief of finally being on Estradiol.  ;D  I finally found something that helped my dysphoria. The physical changes did not kick in until after about one year on HRT.

The younger you are, the sooner you will look more feminine. Many of us older transitioners require FFS before we just begin to pass, even after several years of HRT. Be patient. HRT works. It just takes time. ;)

Quote from: Nikkimn on May 27, 2018, 02:22:03 AM
Same thing happened to me I noticed a ton of changes the first week then it slowed down. It takes months for your hormone levels to hit therapeutic levels so be patient. My doctor has adjusted my doses several times in the first three months. Breast development happens in growth spurts too. Mine did a lot the first week then nothing and now they are growing again rapidly at the 100 day mark.


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Here in lies the problem, I do not in anyway condone or say it's the safe way but all my HRT stuff I get online at least until July when I see my therapist again and hopefully this time he signs off my HRT and doesn't refuse it again, the point is devils advocate aside I have no blood tests or reports to compare were I'm up to or even what dosage I need so whilst the whole process is guesswork based on the fact HRT works at different paces I also have no official means to gauge anything on.
Again I do not wish to promote self medicine as I'm playing risk but I wasn't prepared to wait any longer for HRT, I'm impatient and frankly in 3 months I may have more physical developments that I wouldn't have had, touch wood I've had no ill effect with them thus far, I hope at that point I can get them through NHS officially as this method is not the cheapest compared to proper subscriptions so I advise against it because of cost to, just I'm not patient enough to wait around for some guy with a degree to say yes I should have them.

Hopefully, in July, you will get some monitoring of your levels.  Obviously right now, it is all guesswork.  That and the fact that it's only been three weeks means it is way too early to begin worrying.

Quote from: KathyLauren on May 27, 2018, 03:23:43 PM
Hopefully, in July, you will get some monitoring of your levels.  Obviously right now, it is all guesswork.  That and the fact that it's only been three weeks means it is way too early to begin worrying.

I'm on <dosage removed> blockers and <dosage removed> of eostrogen a day, honestly it seems not enough when I've probably produced much more testosterone in 28 years than that bit of extra eostrogen can really reverse.

We really are not supposed to post dosages here.

But I did notice that you used the term estrogen. This is a class of medications and not the name of the specific drug you are taking. Without the specific name of which estrogen you are taking the mg strength is not helpful. Same thing for the T blockers. Which one are you taking? Since you got these online, I am thinking non standard supplements or worse, ineffective drugs.

Myself I'm one of those fast reactors. May on herbals( Not a good choice as no
Regulation) October doctor prescribed spiro and dutatriside and a definite change in mood. Estrogen start in January and by March my T was cut by 50%. This is not to say it's going to happen for anyone elselike that. No one knows how transitioning will progress
I was already diagnosed as being in andropause which helped l think.
I noticed changes in touch and skin softness in about 6 weeks but I noticed a change in body odour after only two weeks. I now use deodorant during heavy work and hot weather only. These are some things with me and I appreciate it all. The booby fairy's have been very busy as well which I love but gets expensive buying new bras.
I hoe you have great progress but always remember there are no rules for how progress will go so be patient and enjoy the changes as they come

Quote from: TranSketch on May 27, 2018, 04:43:48 PM
I'm on <dosage removed> blockers and <dosage removed> of eostrogen a day, honestly it seems not enough when I've probably produced much more testosterone in 28 years than that bit of extra eostrogen can really reverse.

You need to use the blocker to reduce you body from converting the testosterone to usable. estrogen does not really reverse it. Estrogen goes to different receptor that create  other results.
Also if your ordering on line you need to consider without monitoring you can overload your system and cause blockages at the receptors. If you happen to be using none conventional products they can block the actions of natural estrogen in your system. Neat thing with guys and a belly is belly fat actually produces estrogen.
I'm not a doctor and these are my understandings if this. Talk to
Your doctor for sure.

Quote from: Dani on May 27, 2018, 07:11:21 PM
We really are not supposed to post dosages here.

But I did notice that you used the term estrogen. This is a class of medications and not the name of the specific drug you are taking. Without the specific name of which estrogen you are taking the mg strength is not helpful. Same thing for the T blockers. Which one are you taking? Since you got these online, I am thinking non standard supplements or worse, ineffective drugs.

Estrofem and Spiractin 25 are the names of the actual products, I've read reviews and some older posts on forums such as here and others that generally at least for Estrofem some who used it did see some results from them and others didn't, it seems a mixed bag as for Spiractin not so sure.

For me I didn't really see anything noticeable for about 3 months, Both facially and  Chestally. You just need to be patient, I recently posted some photos about this.

https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,237873.0.html

Quote from: AnamethatstartswithE on May 27, 2018, 09:57:03 PM
For me I didn't really see anything noticeable for about 3 months, Both facially and  Chestally. You just need to be patient, I recently posted some photos about this.

https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,237873.0.html

As everyone says I'm aware that yes patience seems to be key, but when you've wasted so long not doing anything and then when you actually make the effort to actually progress IE Therapists and so forth, and still see nothing to show for it get's more than a little frustrating, patience was never my strong suit even before this, I despise the very act of waiting to see a result of anything especially when I've wasted so many years as a male only to be stuck in this constant loop of still waiting what seems an age for this to happen.

I get it's a second puberty, bodies develop differently over different periods of time, some faster and some see results in next to no time but I hate the sheer fact that despite all the trials and problems life has threw at me in the past that has made the anti social pessimist I am today it still doesn't cut me slack for at least transitoning, I swear I feel like at times that my life is like the Sims on Gods PC and he's delibarately controlling my life to go as wrong as it can for his amusement, I just need some slack cutting but life never seems to give me that slack.

The reason I'm in this situation is because my Therapist refused to sign off HRT because I wasn't presenting as female in day to day life which was not practical or safe where I live, he knew this but still wouldn't budge on his final decision and despite my calmness in the room once I left the room I really felt like ending it there, as a pessimist I already generally think the worst of life but when he said what he did he may as well have pointed a gun at my head and killed me, that's how I felt and even with the process I'm going through now it's at my own risk and no real means of seeing how it's progressing as officialy the doctors haven't a clue about this and it's costing me way more than a basic NHS prescription would.

I'm doing this so blind it's not even funny, I want results but I can't physically see any and I don't even have doctors evaluations to see how high and low my testosterone/estrogen levels are. Honestly if anyone wanted the definition of a living joke I feel like I'm it as nothing ever works out my way even if I actively try to change that situation around myself or try to think positive, honestly I feel sometimes someone like me just doesn't get that chance as I don't deserve it, if there is deity in heaven or whatever then I must have seriously annoyed them.

It's nice to see others on here finally get what they want out of life and in some cases super fast to but someone like me doesn't get the happy ending, that's not what my life allows because who else can be the receiving end of lifes cruel sense of humour then if not me, I may be doing this in vain and it feels like it at the best of times as in the end life has threw to many things my way to be patient with it anymore.

I would take a step back and relax and not to think about the changes too much. They are coming, but I would say, check the mirror next time, when 6 months has passed.

Stressing about the changes early on is a sure way to get depressed or mental breakdown. I nearly went crazy/depressed, because I stressed so much about the changes, early on, when I just should have relaxed and though that they are coming.

Seriously, even my therapist said, that I was very annoying and tiring customer during the first 3 to 4 months  ;D

It's strange that the therapist is using the appearance as a reason for denial of HRT. My understanding is that requirement is for surgical intervention. Have you tried a second opinion or read the WPath guidelines if it is used where you live. Waiting is so much a part of transitioning as well as frustrations. I waited 60 years and other here have done the same, for me to see the next doctor to proceed further has been 4 months waiting for my report and it's still two months away and then 30 months to see the doctor. That is just my situation and everyone has their own processes to follow.
Please try to tough it out and maybe try a different therapist.
Good luck and best wishes

As you're a UK girl I'm going to go out on a limb and ask was your therapist a Dr B? It's a few years since I went the NHS route but he refused to prescribe me hormones unless living full time either. I gave up and went private for a bit, and now my local GP prescribes me my hormones having been given the private recommendation

Emma x

Quote from: emma-f on May 28, 2018, 01:26:09 AM
As you're a UK girl I'm going to go out on a limb and ask was your therapist a Dr B? It's a few years since I went the NHS route but he refused to prescribe me hormones unless living full time either. I gave up and went private for a bit, and now my local GP prescribes me my hormones having been given the private recommendation

Emma x

His name is Tim

Quote from: TranSketch on May 28, 2018, 08:57:59 AM
His name is Tim

Not the same then. I didn't want to say his name as I'm sure many people like him (and to be fair I got on with him. Like me he's well read and knows lots of useless information, so we'd spend ages at a tangent, talking about complete irrelevancies, only to be told no at the end of every session when I asked for hormones) but he's well known for being awkward on hormone treatment, and requiring RLE before hormones, and being very binary on his views on gender.

Afterwards I went to Dr Curtis who was brilliant, but I understand was driven from the profession because he was more liberal in his prescribing of treatment. Whenever a doctor becomes known for prescribing hormones easier (and in my view, correctly) they get all kinds of trouble from parts of the press and some of the more conservative gender psychologists in London, and they made his, and other, psychologists lives hell!

Emma x

I am sorry you have to go through such an ordeal to find a medical doctor to prescribe hormones. Is there a way that you can request a blood work from your regular GP so you can check your own levels? I also want to second the opinion of everyone here that HRT takes time. I have been on hormones for the last 4 years and I am pretty happy with the results but it's going to take some time.

It is extremely slow - However, you will find that the only people that can see your changes is the people around you. I find that we are extremely critical of ourselves and it's hard to gauge our progress without the help of our peers/family.

Twenty-six months for me. The YMMV idea is so true for HRT. I started one particular change at 3 weeks and it hasn't stopped for me. Unfortunately I have had only that one major change. I really do wish the changes would have evened out for me more (even though one other minor change has been the body aroma improvement). Again, YMMV....

Quote from: April_TO on May 28, 2018, 10:05:04 AM
I am sorry you have to go through such an ordeal to find a medical doctor to prescribe hormones. Is there a way that you can request a blood work from your regular GP so you can check your own levels? I also want to second the opinion of everyone here that HRT takes time. I have been on hormones for the last 4 years and I am pretty happy with the results but it's going to take some time.

It is extremely slow - However, you will find that the only people that can see your changes is the people around you. I find that we are extremely critical of ourselves and it's hard to gauge our progress without the help of our peers/family.

In theory yes you could ask a GP to do bloods however someone whom I know who wants to transition was told by there GP were they to self medicate they'd get no help or support, I assume because they would be going over the NHS's appproved protocols and as such were not really covered or they weren't prepared to deal with said person if they took the risk of there own accord and may cause complications in the foreseeable future, this is of course speculation as I don't know the whole story but honestly it's not encouraging to hear that in the first place a trained professional would basically leave them to there own devices no matter the end result.
I have a Mental Health Assessment with a GP next month as he has has to fill in details to pass my paperwork onto a GIC which has to go through my Therapist before the GIC, I could query about this with said GP but with already self medicating for a month they may very well turn me away as I've basically put my own health as the bartering chip in a risky game of poker.
Regarding being our own worst critics it's true but no one has said I look any different or better outside of my own views so one can assume it's making no difference as of yet, honestly the problem is the image in my head is not the one I can achieve as I'd have to be much smaller and the "ideal" overall perfect look which my build just wouldn't accomodate for unless I surgically removed bones and many extremities to have a petite body, something that being over 6ft and a wide build is just so far removed from reality one would think I must smoking the wacky tobaccky to even entertain the idea I could ever be the ideal female build/appearance.

Give it some time and let HRT do it's work. As I have said, it is hard to gauge how we will turn out based on many factors beyond our control when it comes to hormonal therapy alone.

I hope that you take this journey day by day. We all have our wants but sometimes what we need is enough.

Re-affirm yourself everyday and be the best version of who you are. Take care.

I've been on HRT for 15 months and for me the feminization process was imperceptible but then one day I noticed that I was looking more feminine than before. I think it was after about 3 months. At the moment my figure is definitely more female but there's been hardly any breast development (I suspect this may be genetic).  In my case I didn't take T blockers, possibly wrongly, because I had small shrunken testicles and didn't think I was producing any T to speak of.  I had an orchi in April this year so I'm hoping now that my balls are gone (hooray for that) things will speed up.

Quote from: TranSketch on May 27, 2018, 08:53:45 AM
Here in lies the problem, I do not in anyway condone or say it's the safe way but all my HRT stuff I get online at least until July when I see my therapist again and hopefully this time he signs off my HRT and doesn't refuse it again, the point is devils advocate aside I have no blood tests or reports to compare were I'm up to or even what dosage I need so whilst the whole process is guesswork based on the fact HRT works at different paces I also have no official means to gauge anything on.
Again I do not wish to promote self medicine as I'm playing risk but I wasn't prepared to wait any longer for HRT, I'm impatient and frankly in 3 months I may have more physical developments that I wouldn't have had, touch wood I've had no ill effect with them thus far, I hope at that point I can get them through NHS officially as this method is not the cheapest compared to proper subscriptions so I advise against it because of cost to, just I'm not patient enough to wait around for some guy with a degree to say yes I should have them.

Hello Transketch

We have chatted before as you know.

I am sorry you are feeling pessimistic and frustrated and at present unable to have HRT supervised by a medical doctor but I do not judge you for that, as the system is against you.

I decided to take the private route to get therapy and HRT and then to have a shared care agreement between private transgender doctor and my NHSGP thus preventing me from having to satisfy the ridiculous rule of "hormones only with living publicly as female".

I truly hope you are able to get NHS supervised HRT in July (without the RLE rule) as you intend. I wish you the best of luck in July with your therapist.

Hugs

Pamela

Quote from: pamelatransuk on May 30, 2018, 06:00:28 AM
Hello Transketch

We have chatted before as you know.

I am sorry you are feeling pessimistic and frustrated and at present unable to have HRT supervised by a medical doctor but I do not judge you for that, as the system is against you.

I decided to take the private route to get therapy and HRT and then to have a shared care agreement between private transgender doctor and my NHSGP thus preventing me from having to satisfy the ridiculous rule of "hormones only with living publicly as female".

I truly hope you are able to get NHS supervised HRT in July (without the RLE rule) as you intend. I wish you the best of luck in July with your therapist.

Hugs

Pamela

My understanding is I may get it by then, I have actively at least on weekends in groups presented as female because safety in numbers, and also because as I said maybe to you or at least in another forum he said in a way that did not put his profession on the line had I been taking hormones they would have been bridged,considering my appointment was initially in Spetember and it got forwarded to July instead so nearly 3 month quicker after informing the receptionist at the cliniic to pass on the information to my Therapist I was essentially self medicating which ended up in a phone call literally a few days later from him, I forced them to play ball how I wanted and hopefully by July the HRT I'm doing now will have yielded at least some results, next month I have  doctors appointment for a psychological assessment IE fill in the medical details for the form needed for the GIC that the Therapist did not know but I'l ask them about getting bloods to see if my self done HRT is having any effect or if the dosage I need is higher etc.

That is a ridiculous and utterly devastating rule.  Stealth transitioning is a right.  Nobody should be forced to emerge from their cocoon until they are the butterfly they will be.  So sad to hear that.
This is not the case in the US.  I would go private if I were you.
I am about as stealth as one can get and understand where you are coming from.
That said, the estrogen doesn't work it's magic without blockers. 

I had super low test and high estrogen for a man and was actually on test injections for a while until I realized that wasn't helping me at all.  So I stopped and my test plummeted and I began to feel like me again and allowed myself to feel feminine.  Then came the wonderful effects of spiro with the occasional E.  I'm also diy.

Quote from: LaserGirl on June 02, 2018, 05:32:22 AM
That is a ridiculous and utterly devastating rule.  Stealth transitioning is a right.  Nobody should be forced to emerge from their cocoon until they are the butterfly they will be.  So sad to hear that.
This is not the case in the US.  I would go private if I were you.
I am about as stealth as one can get and understand where you are coming from.
That said, the estrogen doesn't work it's magic without blockers. 

I had super low test and high estrogen for a man and was actually on test injections for a while until I realized that wasn't helping me at all.  So I stopped and my test plummeted and I began to feel like me again and allowed myself to feel feminine.  Then came the wonderful effects of spiro with the occasional E.  I'm also diy.

In the ideal world I would go private however I don't have the money for it (as well as electrolysis hair removal etc, way out of my range of wages) so this is all done at the NHS's cost hence the lenghthy waits to get appointments or surgeries etc the whole "prove your commited" attitude with RLE even if your not anywhere near the appearance you need to pass safely, it's a joke alright however for people such as myself who don't have the sort of money for private there's no alternative other than to do it this way.

After nearly 2 months I have got 38 A Breasts of course because bra's are designed with female bodies in mind and I have a male upper torso the back part where they hook up are not long enough in A cup size, I need a C cup for the right hook/back strap length which is annoying as it means I'd need specially made ones and screw paying for tailored clothes, to expensive but I don't see a point in getting C's till I transition full time I'd rather a smaller bra for subtly I can still wear under male clothes.

Quote from: TranSketch on June 28, 2018, 11:54:06 AM
After nearly 2 months I have got 38 A Breasts of course because bra's are designed with female bodies in mind and I have a male upper torso the back part where they hook up are not long enough in A cup size, I need a C cup for the right hook/back strap length which is annoying as it means I'd need specially made ones and screw paying for tailored clothes, to expensive but I don't see a point in getting C's till I transition full time I'd rather a smaller bra for subtly I can still wear under male clothes.

Dear TranSketch:   Go to a larger department store and talk the the clerk in the women's lingerie section...  or you can go online ...   what you are looking for to solve your problem is Bra Extenders or Bra Band Extenders... 
they are like this:
(https://i.imgur.com/5KOigow.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/vsgIDkd.jpg)

They come in all kinds of colors and 2, 3 or 4 hook versions.

I hope this helps,
Hugs, and well wishes,
Danielle

38 A, not a problem. Just go to Hanes (https://www.onehanesplace.com), click on a manufacture then search for the size I found two manufactures with that size but I stopped looking at that point.  For a long time it was a big problem for me because I was AA and it was really difficult to find something in that size.

I am also a 38A.  The lingerie store I went to had several different 38As in stock, none of which fit really well.  I'm kind of a small 38A: with conical breasts, I have the projection to be an A, but not the volume to fill the cup of most bras.  They also had bras sized in small-medium-large.  The medium fit 34C, 36B and 38A.  The band is a little snug, as you would expect, but it fits and doesn't require extenders.  My backup plan, had I not found that one, was to get a 36A or B with an extender.

Transketch

I agree with the advice provided.

Good luck with the bra extenders but also importantly as were now so close to July, good luck with your July Blood Tests and psychological assessment such that you can get HRT and further help under NHS GIC.

Hugs

Pamela

Quote from: Dena on June 28, 2018, 03:35:17 PM
38 A, not a problem. Just go to Hanes (https://www.onehanesplace.com), click on a manufacture then search for the size I found two manufactures with that size but I stopped looking at that point.  For a long time it was a big problem for me because I was AA and it was really difficult to find something in that size.

Unfortunately there is no Hanes in the UK, I am under the impression it's an American chain only.

Quote from: KathyLauren on June 28, 2018, 05:32:05 PM
I am also a 38A.  The lingerie store I went to had several different 38As in stock, none of which fit really well.  I'm kind of a small 38A: with conical breasts, I have the projection to be an A, but not the volume to fill the cup of most bras.  They also had bras sized in small-medium-large.  The medium fit 34C, 36B and 38A.  The band is a little snug, as you would expect, but it fits and doesn't require extenders.  My backup plan, had I not found that one, was to get a 36A or B with an extender.

Kind of the same boat, 38 A but not enough development to fill a bra cup properly either.

I'm 34A with pointy nipples and traffic cone breasts. They don't fit properly in any bra I've tried. Until I get bigger I'll go without.

Quote from: TranSketch on July 03, 2018, 09:19:55 AM
Kind of the same boat, 38 A but not enough development to fill a bra cup properly either.

Frustrating isn't it, even though there's growth there's not enough shape to justify a bra either, not to mention the right chest and nipple are clearly larger than the left side.

I don't know if any other girls have this but as well as my nipples getting very pointy they are also very hard. Lately I've taken to wearing nipple guards to protect them.

Quote from: gloria6 on July 15, 2018, 02:55:10 AM
I don't know if any other girls have this but as well as my nipples getting very pointy they are also very hard. Lately I've taken to wearing nipple guards to protect them.

Mine aren't developed that much yet, if anything one of the strokes and nipples is still smaller than the other however my right breast is more itchier than normal, aka the one that is more developed

I've spoken to one of my tgirl firends, she's 36B now but said she started out lopsided with the right side bigger than the left. She said things evened out after about 6 months or so.

Been having an awful lot of pain in the boobs the last week or so since my last injection. Noticed today the right is getting bigger than the left again and it's starting to push out the cup more now. The areola and nipple are changing more and I think it may be another growth spurt starting and I can only wait and see. Sure hope so

7 years HRT I ended with full Bs but my right is 5-10% larger then my right, trust me this is normal when I go for mammograms I always get told the right is just more developed but this happens to cis women also.

Quote from: LilDevilOfPrada on August 06, 2018, 05:03:06 PM
7 years HRT I ended with full Bs but my right is 5-10% larger then my right, trust me this is normal when I go for mammograms I always get told the right is just more developed but this happens to cis women also.

@LilDevilOfPrada
We have another thread here on the Forums addressing the issue boob size not being equal.   Yes indeed this is normal for cis-women as well.  Certainly in trans-women with developing breasts they may be uneven as they grow in size but many times, and in my case, they did even out when I was getting near my 3rd year of HRT.   Usually what I hear is that it is the LEFT breast is larger....  but maybe it has to do with the local water. LOL :) 

Other theories I have heard is that if you are left handed your right boob may be larger
and if you are right handed your left boob might be larger....

I don't put much stock in those theories but they are interesting to ponder.
Danielle

Here is the other thread about uneven breast growth that I mentioned:
                                  "Right or Left Boobulation"
     https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,235365.msg2164714.html#msg2164714

You might find this interesting.
Danielle

Quote from: Alaskan Danielle on August 27, 2018, 03:27:26 PM
@LilDevilOfPrada
We have another thread here on the Forums addressing the issue boob size not being equal.   Yes indeed this is normal for cis-women as well.  Certainly in trans-women with developing breasts they may be uneven as they grow in size but many times, and in my case, they did even out when I was getting near my 3rd year of HRT.   Usually what I hear is that it is the LEFT breast is larger....  but maybe it has to do with the local water. LOL :) 

Other theories I have heard is that if you are left handed your right boob may be larger
and if you are right handed your left boob might be larger....

I don't put much stock in those theories but they are interesting to ponder.
Danielle

It's actually rather amusing my right breast is actually seems to be growing at a higher rate than my left as well but at least they're growing lol

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Quote from: Arianna Valentine on August 27, 2018, 04:15:07 PM
It's actually rather amusing my right breast is actually seems to be growing at a higher rate than my left as well but at least they're growing lol

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@Arianna Valentine
It can be alarming but at least in most cases they will even out a little more as you continue.  Like you say, at least they are growing!!!
From my own experience they did mostly catch up with each other when I started year #3 of HRT....
And now after 3 1/2 years they are equal.
Hugs,
Danielle

Quote from: Alaskan Danielle on August 27, 2018, 03:27:26 PM
@LilDevilOfPrada

Other theories I have heard is that if you are left handed your right boob may be larger
and if you are right handed your left boob might be larger....

I don't put much stock in those theories but they are interesting to ponder.
Danielle

Interesting as you say Danielle. I am yet another girl with my right boob more developed than the left and indeed I am left handed!

Hugs

Pamela

Quote from: pamelatransuk on August 28, 2018, 08:50:15 AM
Interesting as you say Danielle. I am yet another girl with my right boob more developed than the left and indeed I am left handed!

Hugs

Pamela

I'm ambidextrous so hopefully I just grow in nice even set LOL

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