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I don't know what it is about guys that makes them incapable of putting the toilet paper on the spindle!!! It doesn't matter which bathroom I go into, I find the toilet paper holder empty and there will be a new roll sitting on the counter or on the back of the toilet tank. But NOT on the spindle in the holder! So I told all three of them TO PUT THE TOILET PAPER IN THE HOLDER! So I went into the bathroom a few minutes ago and what do I find? An empty tube of toilet paper on the spindle and a brand new roll laying on top of the toilet paper holder, not on the spindle! AGHHH!! I swear I'm going to start hiding all the toilet paper and giving each one of them 4 squares a day. Lazy ass guys....

What's even worse is when it is facing the wrong way...


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OMFG I KNOW RIGHT???!!!! LIKE I HAVE TWO BROTHERS WHO DO THAT AND THEN WHEN THEY GO TO THE BATHROOM THEY ALWAYS SHOUT AT ME TO GET THEM SOME TP AND IT'S LIKE 'B@$%& IF YOU NEEDED SOME WHY DIDN'T YOU GO GET IT BEFORE YOU TOOK A MASSIVE DUMP!!!!"
AND THEN WHEN I GO IN THERE WHEN I NEED TO GO THEY HARDLY EVER PUT IT ON THE SPINDLE AND GB HI YDNJJF BBN UFDJOO!!!!!!!

Well, I always have to change it because it always seems to run out in the middle of my, uh, usage.

Men haven't an eye for detail. I know someone who restores bikes & cars but asks his wife to check out his work because(in his own words) women are good at solving puzzles & will point out anything wrong

My hubby considers it as doing me a huge favor when he puts the TP on the spindle. He usually leaves 2, maybe 3 squares on the roll, expecting me to put a fresh roll when I need to use the toilet. Much of the time, he leaves the empty cardboard tube on the spindle, and never bothers to get out another roll at all.
I think it boils down to laziness. He thinks "why should I do anything? That's what I have her for".

My father and brother never exhibited this behavior. The two male exes I lived with, even the one who was pretty much a jerk, also never exhibited this behavior, although I would sometimes find the toilet paper facing the "wrong direction" or down to a few turns--but that can happen to anyone. Fortunately, the spare rolls were always in the cabinet under the sink.

When I lived with other people, I felt obligated to install the roll immediately. Since I live alone now, I sometimes leave a new roll on the counter for a day or two. Nobody has complained yet. ;D

My wife is bad about replacing the rolls, but at least when she remembers to, she puts it on the spindle the correct direction.

*sheepishly raises hand*  So... I intentionally set mine on the counter in my apartment.  Ok, technically it's on a little tray on the counter, but let me explain!  There's a holder/spindle installed, but it's really awkwardly placed - just another of many questionable layout decisions by whoever designed my place ::)  Anyway, it's almost impossible for anyone larger than a child to remove any squares without bumping arms and elbows into things, or twisting their arm into unnatural positions.  My setup might not look quite as nice as using the built-in holder, but at least picking up a roll off the near-by counter doesn't require one to be a professional contortionist ;)

The people who are fortunate enough to have well-placed holders but don't use them, or leave empty rolls on them, or put the roll in the wrong direction drive me nuts though!  And I'm especially having trouble imagining a bathroom layout where the top of the tank is the best option.  Like, what if someone bumps the roll or the toilet, and it falls in?  Or falls on the floor?  And how often do most people even clean the top of the tank anyway?  Gross!

Also on the topic of annoying bathroom habits that seem to be more common in men, my big ones are:
Not washing their hands, or doing like a 2-second rinse without soap.  I just don't understand how some people can do that and then go on with their day?

Getting water all over the counter while washing their hands and not wiping it up.  I am so sick of forgetting to carefully check counters, and then ending up soaked because I accidentally brush my clothing against the edge after someone left it a mess!

Quote from: LeafyMeg4589 on August 06, 2018, 04:26:06 AM
*sheepishly raises hand*  So... I intentionally set mine on the counter in my apartment.  Ok, technically it's on a little tray on the counter, but let me explain!  There's a holder/spindle installed, but it's really awkwardly placed - just another of many questionable layout decisions by whoever designed my place ::)  Anyway, it's almost impossible for anyone larger than a child to remove any squares without bumping arms and elbows into things, or twisting their arm into unnatural positions.  My setup might not look quite as nice as using the built-in holder, but at least picking up a roll off the near-by counter doesn't require one to be a professional contortionist ;)

The people who are fortunate enough to have well-placed holders but don't use them, or leave empty rolls on them, or put the roll in the wrong direction drive me nuts though!  And I'm especially having trouble imagining a bathroom layout where the top of the tank is the best option.  Like, what if someone bumps the roll or the toilet, and it falls in?  Or falls on the floor?  And how often do most people even clean the top of the tank anyway?  Gross!

Also on the topic of annoying bathroom habits that seem to be more common in men, my big ones are:
Not washing their hands, or doing like a 2-second rinse without soap.  I just don't understand how some people can do that and then go on with their day?

Getting water all over the counter while washing their hands and not wiping it up.  I am so sick of forgetting to carefully check counters, and then ending up soaked because I accidentally brush my clothing against the edge after someone left it a mess!

I totally understand the awkward placement of the toilet paper holder. The bathroom in our basement has the toilet paper holder in such a weird location you almost have to be a contortionist to reach it. So I bought a free standing toilet paper holder for that one. It has a spindle and everything. I've found an empty cardboard tube on that one as well! When I had pneumonia earlier this year and was bedridden the guys did all the cleaning. Surprisingly they kept the top of the toilet tank clean but on the floor on each side of the toilet where the toilet is bolted to the floor was nasty!  No one had cleaned that spot on any of the toilets while I was sick.

The proper direction in my house is the one that prevents the cat from rolling all the paper off the tube!

I always replace the TP and never leave the seat up. [except in public bathrooms, where I touch as little as possible, so things are left as I found them] But, I've always been "different."

Quote from: Maid Marion on August 06, 2018, 06:36:50 AM
The proper direction in my house is the one that prevents the cat from rolling all the paper off the tube!

I always replace the TP and never leave the seat up. [except in public bathrooms, where I touch as little as possible, so things are left as I found them] But, I've always been "different."

So true about the cat.  Not my preferred way but it beats picking the shreds off the floor. 

I've always been the only one that seems to be able to figure out how to put a new roll on the spindle, so for a long time it was the "male" in the house that always did it, wife and daughters not. 

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A better question, in my opinion, is why do people even USE the spindle? Am I the only one who likes to hold the roll when I use it? I just set it on the counter for convenience's sake.

first I'd like to point out that I, historically, always put the roll on a spindle. I don't know what you all think is the right direction to hang, for me it's loose-leaf out and facing you where you can see it.

My preferred scenario is holding the roll. Much easier to get what I need without spooling it all over the place.

That said, no spindle in our primary bath so it goes on a convenient flat spot. The one I don't like is sliding the spare rolls down the handle of the ever-handy plunger. EWWWWW do you know where that thing has been? Keep them in a reachable cabinet and, for everyone's sake, leave them in the plastic wrapping.

Quote from: Faith on August 06, 2018, 07:17:01 AM
first I'd like to point out that I, historically, always put the roll on a spindle. I don't know what you all think is the right direction to hang, for me it's loose-leaf out and facing you where you can see it.

My preferred scenario is holding the roll. Much easier to get what I need without spooling it all over the place.

That said, no spindle in our primary bath so it goes on a convenient flat spot. The one I don't like is sliding the spare rolls down the handle of the ever-handy plunger. EWWWWW do you know where that thing has been? Keep them in a reachable cabinet and, for everyone's sake, leave them in the plastic wrapping.

Ewww. I would never keep a plunger in the bathroom.  Ours stays out in the garage where it belongs. I keep the toilet paper in the cabinets under the sink. The downstairs bathroom has a pedestal type sink so if you run out in that bathroom you have to yell for someone to bring you some or you have to walk out to the garage with a dirty butt. Lol

Quote from: Julia1996 on August 06, 2018, 07:39:53 AM
Ewww. I would never keep a plunger in the bathroom.  Ours stays out in the garage where it belongs. I keep the toilet paper in the cabinets under the sink. The downstairs bathroom has a pedestal type sink so if you run out in that bathroom you have to yell for someone to bring you some or you have to walk out to the garage with a dirty butt. Lol

we don't have a garage, plus, I would rather a rinsed off (un-rinsed .. ick!) and stored plunger handy than to run for one and have a toilet over flow making an even bigger mess before you can get back to it.

I'm sure there are some out there that will put it on the roll correctly.

I must admit that after having children i'm just glad there is toilet paper. Anyone have to sing the stranded on the potty song.

Quote from: 4A-GZE on August 06, 2018, 06:55:28 AM
A better question, in my opinion, is why do people even USE the spindle? Am I the only one who likes to hold the roll when I use it? I just set it on the counter for convenience's sake.

Cue for all of us to point at Carly and do the (1978) Invasion of the Body Snatchers scream.
Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek! Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek! Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek!

Julia...So glad to have you back. I really missed your humor and warmth. Have you considered that like my home the dogs love to roam and one of their favorite things to do is to unroll the toilet paper? I got tired of picking up after them. So there it sits on the tank. Unfortunately I now have a toddler for a granddaughter and she loves to play with the TP too. And she can reach the top of the tank.

Re my last post, people who don't use the spindle because they can't reach it or because their dogs and cats can, are exempt from the scream.

Quote from: LexieDragon on August 05, 2018, 05:01:49 PM
What's even worse is when it is facing the wrong way...

Quote from: LeafyMeg4589 on August 06, 2018, 04:26:06 AM
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The people who ... put the roll in the wrong direction drive me nuts though! ...

Quote from: Sydney_NYC on August 05, 2018, 10:58:30 PM
My wife is bad about replacing the rolls, but at least when she remembers to, she puts it on the spindle the correct direction.

Quote from: Arch on August 05, 2018, 10:44:51 PM
...  I would sometimes find the toilet paper facing the "wrong direction" ...

Quote from: Faith on August 06, 2018, 07:17:01 AM
... I don't know what you all think is the right direction to hang, for me it's loose-leaf out and facing you where you can see it.
...

Possibly another opportunity to point and scream but I'll defer until I'm sure that I'll be one of the screamers and not the screamed at.

I have the loose leaf on the side nearest the wall, like my mother had it.  I did experiment with the loose leaf on the outside (it seemed to make sense dynamically) but I sometimes pulled the spindle right off the wall, so mummy knew best.

Quote from: MaryT on August 06, 2018, 01:24:57 PM
Cue for all of us to point at Carly and do the (1978) Invasion of the Body Snatchers scream.
Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek! Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek! Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek!

xD Well, now I'm thinking I may really be the only one!

I do that too. It's not that I am incapable of putting it on the spindle it's just that I a) couldn't care any less and b) think it is unnecessary to put it there. It's just bothersome and I can get the deed done even more conveniently without the role of toilet paper being on the spindle.
Only my mum always complains about stupid unimportant stuff like that when she drops by my appartment and I tell her it's my bathroom and I am not obligated to and if she wants to put it there she can feel free to do it as I don't care and am not the one bothered by it hence it's her problem not mine. Just as the guys in your family don't have a problem with it, only you have, so why would they put it on the spindle because you want it to be there when they apparently don't care?   

I'm also really glad that I am gay and won't have to deal with a woman in the future as probably the majority of them are way too stressful and dramatic and bitch about the smallest, unnecessary things like that too often that I don't even blink an eye about and that gets extremely annoying over time.

Quote from: Corax on August 06, 2018, 02:39:17 PM
I do that too. It's not that I am incapable of putting it on the spindle it's just that I a) couldn't care any less and b) think it is unnecessary to put it there. It's just bothersome and I can get the deed done even more conveniently without the role of toilet paper being on the spindle.
Only my mum always complains about stupid unimportant stuff like that when she drops by my appartment and I tell her it's my bathroom and I am not obligated to and if she wants to put it there she can feel free to do it as I don't care and am not the one bothered by it hence it's her problem not mine. Just as the guys in your family don't have a problem with it, only you have, so why would they put it on the spindle because you want it to be there when they apparently don't care?   

I'm also really glad that I am gay and won't have to deal with a woman in the future as probably the majority of them are way too stressful and dramatic and bitch about the smallest, unnecessary things like that too often that I don't even blink an eye about and that gets extremely annoying over time.

That's a healthily male attitude.  I'm not sure that having a gay male partner will necessarily shield you from melodrama, though.

I think most men can put the paper on the spindles.
They just choose not too very often!  :)

Seems like they need to complete the job....  and the job is not finished until the paperwork is done.

Chrissy

Get one (or twelve) of these, and hang in the bathroom, in a prominent place:

Sometimes people seem to try to carefully balance an additional item on the top of the trash bin, instead of taking the full bag out and putting an empty new kitchen trash bag in the bin.

Quote from: Julia1996 on August 06, 2018, 07:39:53 AM
Ewww. I would never keep a plunger in the bathroom.  Ours stays out in the garage where it belongs. I keep the toilet paper in the cabinets under the sink. The downstairs bathroom has a pedestal type sink so if you run out in that bathroom you have to yell for someone to bring you some or you have to walk out to the garage with a dirty butt. Lol

We keep a plunger and toilet brush behind the toilet, to be sure to keep the toilet clean and working. I have the toilet paper holder attached to the wall directly in front of the toilet. Since I have replaced the walls, it actually looks very nice in the bathroom. Everything needed where one might expect to find it. With no vanity, I put a small plastic storage bin between the sink pedestal and the toilet for the TP.
The only person that will never use that bathroom is my mother, ever since I asked her to please wipe the seat when she gets done. OMG! She threw a fit! She thought it was MY JOB to wipe the seat down after she used it. Now, she uses the toilet in HER bathroom, and the seat is never left nasty. SMH!

Quote from: ChrissyRyan on August 06, 2018, 05:43:37 PM
Sometimes people seem to try to carefully balance an additional item on the top of the trash bin, instead of taking the full bag out and putting an empty new kitchen trash bag in the bin.

My brother is famous for that! He will place an item on top of the the already full trash can with the skill of an explosives  expert to keep from having to take the trash out.

I've a counter-position on this one.

Putting the roll on the spindle when it's new is the worst possible thing you can do - you'll end up trying to tear the first piece off with one hand, then failing miserably, then trying two, then tearing off several layers instead of one in pieces, and eventually end up swearing, crying and assaulting the roll. Better to keep it in hand. It takes a lot of concentration and brain power to get the first sheet off successfully, and then there's the wiping, and after that not much brain RAM left for putting it on the spindle.

Quote from: Kylo on August 06, 2018, 06:36:55 PM
I've a counter-position on this one.

Putting the roll on the spindle when it's new is the worst possible thing you can do - you'll end up trying to tear the first piece off with one hand, then failing miserably, then trying two, then tearing off several layers instead of one in pieces, and eventually end up swearing, crying and assaulting the roll. Better to keep it in hand. It takes a lot of concentration and brain power to get the first sheet off successfully, and then there's the wiping, and after that not much brain RAM left for putting it on the spindle.

Lol. 😂

Quote from: Corax on August 06, 2018, 02:39:17 PM
I do that too. It's not that I am incapable of putting it on the spindle it's just that I a) couldn't care any less and b) think it is unnecessary to put it there. It's just bothersome and I can get the deed done even more conveniently without the role of toilet paper being on the spindle.
Only my mum always complains about stupid unimportant stuff like that when she drops by my appartment and I tell her it's my bathroom and I am not obligated to and if she wants to put it there she can feel free to do it as I don't care and am not the one bothered by it hence it's her problem not mine. Just as the guys in your family don't have a problem with it, only you have, so why would they put it on the spindle because you want it to be there when they apparently don't care?   

I'm also really glad that I am gay and won't have to deal with a woman in the future as probably the majority of them are way too stressful and dramatic and bitch about the smallest, unnecessary things like that too often that I don't even blink an eye about and that gets extremely annoying over time.

Now there's a male attitude if I've ever heard one!   Just keep in mind that no matter who you date, they're likely to care about some things that you find frivolous and vice versa.

Quote from: Kylo on August 06, 2018, 06:36:55 PM
I've a counter-position on this one.

Putting the roll on the spindle when it's new is the worst possible thing you can do - you'll end up trying to tear the first piece off with one hand, then failing miserably, then trying two, then tearing off several layers instead of one in pieces, and eventually end up swearing, crying and assaulting the roll. Better to keep it in hand. It takes a lot of concentration and brain power to get the first sheet off successfully, and then there's the wiping, and after that not much brain RAM left for putting it on the spindle.

And the funniest post award goes to Kylo!  I almost hate to ruin the mood with a practical answer, but I guess I will.  I totally understand the frustration of trying to get sheets off a fresh roll, but the solution is to always take the first few sheets off at the same time you put a new roll on; that way nobody has to fight with it.  In my experience, public restrooms seem especially bad about that one  :(

I carefully release or separate the first sheet from the roll, then place the roll on the spindle

Hmmmm...how about a practical reason for doing so; for females anyway.  While you can't catch VD from a toilet seat, it is possible to get a yeast infection from TP that's been handled by many and left on the counter etc.  Slim chance but it does happen.   

Welll.... As long as one does NOT have diabolical four legged fur balls that have figured out how to unroll an entire mega roll of TP in EITHER direction in which then their human slave is then left to figure out what to do with this rather large pile of unrolled TP which then is much harder to use as one MUST first find the end of the roll in this pile of unrolled TP. Which that in and of itself is an adventure. (And then do you try to reroll it or just leave it in the pile????) :P

Half man, half woman here. I put the new roll on, and always do the triangle fold on the end when I'm finished.

Our house is only girls and not replacing the roll is a regular thing. 

It has gotten to be a battle to see if I can pee and use just the very last of the TP and not even get a new role out.  >:-)  I know if I am successful when I here Ainsley followed by my middle name hollered from the bathroom.  It's the little things in life that make me happy, you know?

Quote from: TonyaW on August 06, 2018, 06:54:39 AM
So true about the cat.  Not my preferred way but it beats picking the shreds off the floor. 

I've always been the only one that seems to be able to figure out how to put a new roll on the spindle, so for a long time it was the "male" in the house that always did it, wife and daughters not. 

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What?

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Never thought about this. I put the roll on the floor before the other roll is empty. Next one to use it replaces the roll in the holder.

Sometimes I just keep the roll on the floor. I don't think about replacing the old one. I am thinking about other random stuff.

My husband puts the roll in the holder though. He swears a bit about noone doing it but him.

I guess I have too many thoughts in my head to remember stuff like that.


Tony

Quote from: Sephirah on August 06, 2018, 04:47:50 PM
Get one (or twelve) of these, and hang in the bathroom, in a prominent place:

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:laugh: That's really funny!  Yet I'm still not sure it would get through to some people :P  It really does seem like such a small effort to me that I just really don't get it.  I can kind of understand not wanting to clean toilets since there is a "gross" factor and it's more effort, but even that has to get done SOMEHOW!  And do you really want to be using a gross toilet?

They are typically capable, but just lazy or unthoughtful.


Chrissy

I have personally never replaced the roll... ever. I would get out a new roll of toilet paper and leave it on the counter hahaha. this drove my gf crazy. She even went as far as to pull me into the bathroom, close the door and give me a lesson on HOW to change the roll on a toilet paper holder. She went through all the steps and then made me do it lol.... obviously we both knew that I was capable of changing the toilet paper roll.

haha i do this all the time! I often ask myself "Why am i doing this? It's so easy to do, but I can't seem to summon up the energy to do it." my husband does it too, we're both bad.  :P

I have personally never replaced the roll... ever. I would get out a new roll of toilet paper and leave it on the counter hahaha. this drove my gf crazy. She even went as far as to pull me into the bathroom, close the door and give me a lesson on HOW to change the roll on a toilet paper holder. She went through all the steps and then made me do it lol.... obviously we both knew that I was capable of changing the toilet paper roll.

Quote from: ChrissyRyan on August 06, 2018, 04:17:12 PM
I think most men can put the paper on the spindles

Ok ok well my question is:

Where is the spindle?
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I am not a contortionist but, having free moment while sitting doing business, I will change it
every time if it's a fancy one and easy to get at! Got a three year old? Bath time with TP laying around loose is definitely NOT an option!

Things could of course be worse

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