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Title: Voice feminization tips/guides?
Post by: Whimsy on November 01, 2018, 04:34:02 PM
Post by: Whimsy on November 01, 2018, 04:34:02 PM
Hello all. I'm new to this forum, been transitioning for a little over a year (November is my year anniversary on full hormone dosage) and I've been struggling with one aspect in particular...my voice. I know a lot of trans people struggle with this, and I've looked at several guides that haven't really helped me.
Does anyone have access to any good guides or videos about voice feminization tips or techniques? Or does anyone know any good, affordable voice coaches in the Bay area? Any hello would be appreciated.
Thanks so much and good luck in this current, awful political climate to all my brothers and sisters <3
Does anyone have access to any good guides or videos about voice feminization tips or techniques? Or does anyone know any good, affordable voice coaches in the Bay area? Any hello would be appreciated.
Thanks so much and good luck in this current, awful political climate to all my brothers and sisters <3
Title: Re: Voice feminization tips/guides?
Post by: KathyLauren on November 01, 2018, 04:57:21 PM
Post by: KathyLauren on November 01, 2018, 04:57:21 PM
Hi, Whimsy!
Welcome to Susan's Place. Congratulations on your anniversary!
Voice is indeed a problem area for many trans women. I found it helpful to see a voice therapist. She wasn't cheap, so I had fewer sessions that would have been ideal, but I learned a lot from her. Unfortunately, I am at the opposite end of the continent from you, so I can't help you with local recommendations.
One thing I learned from her was not to worry too much about numbers. All the reference material indicated that I needed to raise my voice by a full octave to get it into official "female range". I simply couldn't do a full octave without danaging my voice. (And one of the advantages of working with a therapist is that she was able to tell me when I was doing something damaging, so I could stop doing it.) So instead of trying for a full octave, I aimed for raising my pitch a fifth, which I could do without injury, and which got me up to the bottom end of the female range.
With practise (it's been a couple of years now), I am now able to start with my voice at that level most of the time.
More important that pitch is the intonation of your voice. There is not much you can do about the natural resonance of your vocal cavities, but you can alter your how your voice rises and falls as you speak. Letting your pitch drop at the end of a sentence is very male. Women keep their pitch up, or even raise it, as they finish talking.
Please feel free to stop by the Introductions forum (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/board,8.0.html) to tell the members about yourself. Here is some information that we like to share with new members:
Welcome to Susan's Place. Congratulations on your anniversary!
Voice is indeed a problem area for many trans women. I found it helpful to see a voice therapist. She wasn't cheap, so I had fewer sessions that would have been ideal, but I learned a lot from her. Unfortunately, I am at the opposite end of the continent from you, so I can't help you with local recommendations.
One thing I learned from her was not to worry too much about numbers. All the reference material indicated that I needed to raise my voice by a full octave to get it into official "female range". I simply couldn't do a full octave without danaging my voice. (And one of the advantages of working with a therapist is that she was able to tell me when I was doing something damaging, so I could stop doing it.) So instead of trying for a full octave, I aimed for raising my pitch a fifth, which I could do without injury, and which got me up to the bottom end of the female range.
With practise (it's been a couple of years now), I am now able to start with my voice at that level most of the time.
More important that pitch is the intonation of your voice. There is not much you can do about the natural resonance of your vocal cavities, but you can alter your how your voice rises and falls as you speak. Letting your pitch drop at the end of a sentence is very male. Women keep their pitch up, or even raise it, as they finish talking.
Please feel free to stop by the Introductions forum (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/board,8.0.html) to tell the members about yourself. Here is some information that we like to share with new members:
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Title: Re: Voice feminization tips/guides?
Post by: Northern Star Girl on November 01, 2018, 05:17:18 PM
Post by: Northern Star Girl on November 01, 2018, 05:17:18 PM
Quote from: Whimsy on November 01, 2018, 04:34:02 PM@Whimsy
Hello all. I'm new to this forum, been transitioning for a little over a year (November is my year anniversary on full hormone dosage) and I've been struggling with one aspect in particular...my voice. I know a lot of trans people struggle with this, and I've looked at several guides that haven't really helped me.
Does anyone have access to any good guides or videos about voice feminization tips or techniques? Or does anyone know any good, affordable voice coaches in the Bay area? Any hello would be appreciated.
Thanks so much and good luck in this current, awful political climate to all my brothers and sisters <3
Dear Whimsy:
I am most pleased that you had decided to join the Susan's Place.
I see that our lovely member @KathyLauren has already welcomed you to Susan's Place. Please allow me to also welcome you here.
Thank you for writing your very first posting.... other members will be along to offer their thoughts and comments in response to your specific questions and concerns..
This is the right place for you to be to find out what others may have to say that may have been in your circumstances and with your questions and concerns.
There are a lot of members here that will be able to identify with your situation as you continue to feel free to share it.
I want to warmly WELCOME you to Susan's Place.
You will find this a safe and friendly place to share with others and to read about others similar trials, tribulations, and successes.
As you are certainly aware you can share with others and involve yourself with some give and take with other like-minded members. When frustrated or if you have successes you can share it here if you wish and receive support from others and offer support to others. ....
***It's a very good chance that you might find that you will make some new friends here.
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Title: Re: Voice feminization tips/guides?
Post by: StacyRenee on November 03, 2018, 05:52:40 PM
Post by: StacyRenee on November 03, 2018, 05:52:40 PM
I've been seeing a voice therapist through the VA. She has me using the EVA app. It's only for iPhone (6 and newer). It's 20 lessons at $5 each for a total of $100. I haven't stuck with it, but I do feel it was helping. It's very methodical. A lot of the early lessons are very basic, but do help to build a foundation for later lessons.
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Title: Re: Voice feminization tips/guides?
Post by: Katie on November 14, 2018, 01:54:21 PM
Post by: Katie on November 14, 2018, 01:54:21 PM
One of the best ways to IMPROVE your voice is to simply go full time. It is soo sooooo soooooooo much more real when your neck is on the line in front of the world..... Not saying it is going to make your voice perfect but it certainly will do wonders........
Title: Re: Voice feminization tips/guides?
Post by: NatalieRene on November 14, 2018, 02:14:17 PM
Post by: NatalieRene on November 14, 2018, 02:14:17 PM
Quote from: Katie on November 14, 2018, 01:54:21 PMIt's funny because it works that way for foreign languages too.
One of the best ways to IMPROVE your voice is to simply go full time. It is soo sooooo soooooooo much more real when your neck is on the line in front of the world..... Not saying it is going to make your voice perfect but it certainly will do wonders........
I went to a voice trainer at GWU.