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Today, I asked my doctor for a referral for feminizing hormones.  She agreed to arrange it.  It will probably be with the Rainbow Health Centre in Toronto.  Can't wait to get started!

AnneK,
Congratulations! That is such a big and exciting step. Sounds like you were able to get in very quickly. Please keep us updated on how things go.

Lacy

Hugs,
Lacy

Congratulations Anne!

QuoteSounds like you were able to get in very quickly.

In where?  She just said she'd arrange the referral, nothing said about when it would be.  Or were you referring to my visit to my doctor?  Yes, that was very quick.  She has walk in clinics on Monday & Wednesday evenings.  For some reason, I was the only one there tonight, so I was seen almost as soon as I walked in.  Normally those walk in clinics are very busy and I often have to wait a while.  :)

Still, I'm looking forward to the changes, particularly larger breasts (currently a 38A).  I also expect I'll be sterile, after a while on hormones.  No loss.  I also believe my testicles should shrink.  Again, no loss.  I am excited something is finally happening.

The Rainbow Heath Centre is located in Toronto's "Gay Village" and caters to the LGBQT community.  It's also not far (several blocks) from the new trans clinic being set up at Woman's College Hospital.

Incidentally, in my discussion with my doctor, I got the impression I'm not her first trans patient, as she said she'd sent a few others to Rainbow Health.

One other thing,  as someone over 65 in Ontario, my prescriptions are covered.  I pay the first $100 per year and no more that $6.11 per prescription after that.  GCS is also covered under our health care system.

Quote from: AnneK on November 05, 2018, 08:27:03 PM
In where?  She just said she'd arrange the referral, nothing said about when it would be.  Or were you referring to my visit to my doctor?  Yes, that was very quick.  She has walk in clinics on Monday & Wednesday evenings.  For some reason, I was the only one there tonight, so I was seen almost as soon as I walked in.  Normally those walk in clinics are very busy and I often have to wait a while.  :)

Still, I'm looking forward to the changes, particularly larger breasts (currently a 38A).  I also expect I'll be sterile, after a while on hormones.  No loss.  I also believe my testicles should shrink.  Again, no loss.  I am excited something is finally happening.

The Rainbow Heath Centre is located in Toronto's "Gay Village" and caters to the LGBQT community.  It's also not far (several blocks) from the new trans clinic being set up at Woman's College Hospital.

Incidentally, in my discussion with my doctor, I got the impression I'm not her first trans patient, as she said she'd sent a few others to Rainbow Health.

I was talking about your doctor. It took me 3 months to get in to mine. Then another few months to get my hormones.

It sounds like they are providing some pretty good resources there. I have a friend that lives in Toronto. She has been completely transitioned for a while, and she said there was a good support system even when she started.

In regards to becoming sterile and testicular shrinkage, you can definitely expect that. But as you said, no big loss!

I hope everything goes smoothly for you.


Hugs,
Lacy

QuoteI was talking about your doctor. It took me 3 months to get in to mine.

As I said, it was a walk in clinic, no appointment necessary.  My main reason for going was to get a flu shot.  While there I discussed a couple of other issues and then handed her some stuff I printed out from the Rainbow web site.  So, now I just have to wait for the referral.  The sooner, the better.

And yes, our health care here is good, despite what Trump claims.  That flu shot was also covered.  I also made an appointment with my urologist last week.  I called on Monday and had an appointment for Thursday.  When I see what happens with health care in the U.S., I'm glad I don't live there.  Then we get to Trump's attacks on our community and others.

Congratulations on the good news, Anne!

Hugs, Devlyn

Quote from: Devlyn on November 06, 2018, 02:00:25 AM
Congratulations on the good news, Anne!

Hugs, Devlyn

Last night, I was so excited, I couldn't sleep!

A couple of points from my doctor visit yesterday.  First off, it was very simple.  I just handed my doctor the documentation I had printed out.  No questions asked.  She just said she'd refer me.  Also, she said the referral was to an endocrinologist, so no therapist etc..  Things have really changed since the protocol was changed in 2016.  Many years ago, when I was first looking into this sort of thing, it was necessary to go to a shrink, with a low prospect of success.  Now, it's essentially informed consent, assuming no medical issues.  Surgery, however, still requires evaluations, though no longer by a psychiatrist.

QuoteIn regards to becoming sterile and testicular shrinkage, you can definitely expect that.

Any idea what the time frame is?

Quote from: AnneK on November 06, 2018, 09:30:12 PM
Any idea what the time frame is?

I noticed shrinkage by about three months.  Now, I am approaching two years, and things are about half their former size.

I have no way of knowing about sterility.  I assume I am by this time, which, for me, is a good thing.

QuoteI noticed shrinkage by about three months.

Well, that's certainly something to look forward to.  If only breasts grew as fast!   ;)

I have my appointment with the endocrinologist, on April 17!

Awesome!

Quote from: Devlyn on December 28, 2018, 12:47:46 PM
Awesome!

That was quick.  You posted 40 seconds after I did!

Quote from: AnneK on December 28, 2018, 12:48:55 PM
That was quick.  You posted 40 seconds after I did!

Congratulations should never have to wait.  :)

Quote from: Devlyn on December 28, 2018, 01:19:50 PM
Congratulations should never have to wait.  :)

I just wish I didn't have to wait so long.  I guess there aren't a lot of endocrinologists doing this sort of work.  Other referrals I've had didn't take anywhere near as long.  I wonder how long it is to see an endocrinologist for usual medical reasons.

Quote from: AnneK on December 28, 2018, 12:47:06 PM
I have my appointment with the endocrinologist, on April 17!

My endocrinologist will be Dr. Raymond Fung, at Michael Garron hospital, in Toronto.  Has anyone here had any experience with him?  I'm curious about what to expect.

Quote from: AnneK on December 28, 2018, 01:33:18 PM
I just wish I didn't have to wait so long.  I guess there aren't a lot of endocrinologists doing this sort of work.  Other referrals I've had didn't take anywhere near as long.  I wonder how long it is to see an endocrinologist for usual medical reasons.

My general Family doc called an endo who he knew, and I was in in the next week.  He got me going, and made a referral to a transgender specialist endo for "fine tuning", and that took about 2 month to get in!

Quote from: Dietlind on December 28, 2018, 10:02:11 PM
My general Family doc called an endo who he knew, and I was in in the next week.  He got me going, and made a referral to a transgender specialist endo for "fine tuning", and that took about 2 month to get in!

It took almost 2 months just to get an appointment, which is much longer than actually going to other specialists.  I suspect this may be due to so few working with trans, as compared to other medical needs.  I expect if I had to see an endocrinologist for something else, such as diabetes, the wait would be much less.  I also suspect there was a surge in demand, after the protocols for transgender services were changed back in 2016.  The process is much easier than it used to and perhaps encouraging more to transition.

My experience with other referrals has generally been 2 weeks or less.

Quote from: AnneK on December 29, 2018, 06:13:25 AM
It took almost 2 months just to get an appointment, which is much longer than actually going to other specialists.  I suspect this may be due to so few working with trans, as compared to other medical needs.  I expect if I had to see an endocrinologist for something else, such as diabetes, the wait would be much less.  I also suspect there was a surge in demand, after the protocols for transgender services were changed back in 2016.  The process is much easier than it used to and perhaps encouraging more to transition.

My experience with other referrals has generally been 2 weeks or less.

My "normal" endo does diabetes and stuff like this, and it was rather easy to get in.  Of course there has to be a reason for docs to specialize (like I did infection Control & Prevention), and that reason is partially dictated by demand.  There are way more diabetic people in the US (almost 1/2 of the population) than there are trans people, which means, a endo specialized with trans stuff will not have the chance to get a full patient load when there are to many of this specialty around.  And that is the reason that there are few specializing in trans stuff.  Now that more trans are coming out, they have now an overload of patients.  This might change once young doc's see that they can get enough patients with specializing toward this field (as long as the current administration will not drive us back into the closet).

My endocrinologist appointment is just a month away.  As I am already on dutasteride, I don't expect I'll be needing another anti-androgen.  Anyone else here using it, instead of spiro, etc.?

BTW, I asked my doctor about why it took so long to get the appointment and whether being for hormones had anything to do with it.  Apparently, there are priorities, depending on why you need the appointment.  For some, such as cancer patients, the wait isn't long.  Diabetics a bit longer etc.  Also, not may endocrinologists work with trans patients.

Quote from: AnneK on December 28, 2018, 12:47:06 PM
I have my appointment with the endocrinologist, on April 17!

Two weeks tomorrow!

Quote from: AnneK on April 02, 2019, 09:28:42 PM
Two weeks tomorrow!

The time will pass quickly... Less than two weeks left now, that is not long!   :)

Chrissy

Tomorrow's the big day!!! :o

I had my appointment with the endocrinologist today.  The appointment took about a half hour.  We discussed why I thought I was trans, what my plans were and expected from hormones and also the medical issues that may be involved.  I walked out of the office with a requisition for blood work and a prescription.  I went to a lab across the street from the doctors office, for the blood work and then took the prescription to my usual pharmacy.  I then went home and immediately took my first pill, even before walking the dog.  Looking forward to the results!

BTW, I expect to be a D cup within a week.   ;) :D :D :D

It's a wonderful feeling to take that first dose, you'll always remember it.....

congrats on starting and enjoy the ride, it's an interesting one !

Cynthia -

WOO HOO !!!!!  Getting the first prescription and taking it is so exciting.  I kept the empty bottle of my finestride and what the heck is that other one called?  Whatever it is an androgen/testosterone blocker.  Don't need that stuff anymore but it was so exciting to start the journey.

October 2016.  I felt like I joined the club. 

We will mail your membership card.  :D

Anne,


   Congratulations!   :)
   
   Yay!


Chrissy

QuoteI kept the empty bottle of my finestride and what the heck is that other one called?

I've been on dutasteride for a couple of years and don't have to take any other anti-androgen.

One other thing.  I had earlier wondered why it took so long to see an endocrinologist.  I thought it might be due to a big increase in trans people looking for help, since the protocols changed 3 years ago.  Turns out  I was right.  I was talking to the receptionist and she said that's what happened and the doctor is currently training other endocrinologists in this sort of work.  His is a usual practice, working with hormone issues for various reasons, but he chose to expand into transgender work.

Big hug! Congratulations, Anne!

Hugs, Devlyn

Quote from: AnneK on April 17, 2019, 05:20:18 PM
I had my appointment with the endocrinologist today.  The appointment took about a half hour.  We discussed why I thought I was trans, what my plans were and expected from hormones and also the medical issues that may be involved.  I walked out of the office with a requisition for blood work and a prescription.  I went to a lab across the street from the doctors office, for the blood work and then took the prescription to my usual pharmacy.  I then went home and immediately took my first pill, even before walking the dog.  Looking forward to the results!

BTW, I expect to be a D cup within a week.   ;) :D :D :D

Congrats!  You know that the cup size depends on the bandwidth?  You might be an E cup without knowing it  >:-)
Look at me, i would be an EE cup, if my bandwidth would be 32!

Quote from: Dietlind on April 18, 2019, 08:09:23 AM
Congrats!  You know that the cup size depends on the bandwidth?  You might be an E cup without knowing it  >:-)
Look at me, i would be an EE cup, if my bandwidth would be 32!

I'll leave it to the fitters in the bra shop to tell me what size I am, but even before HRT I was a 38A.  Also, I think my breasts may have enlarged a bit, since starting dutasteride a couple of years ago, but I can't be certain.

BTW, with many years experience in the telecommunications industry, bandwidth has a different meaning for me.  also, I thought the measurement referred to band size (length) not width.  At the back, my bras are only about 1" wide.   ;)

Congrats! You'r gonna be so excited!  :laugh:

I was just reading through the information sheet that came with my estradiol.  It's obvious it wasn't written with trans women in mind.   ;)

I have thought about this for many years and after I asked my doctor for the referral, I had moments when I wondered if I was doing the right thing.  Now, though, there's absolutely no doubt I am.  I couldn't wait to take the first pill yesterday and now look forward to the next one, and the next, and the...

I am very happy I've started this phase of my life and waiting to see the physical results.  They can't come soon enough!

Congrats!  It always an uplifting experience to find an ally that helps you move further in your journey.  Good luck  :)

QuoteIt always an uplifting experience

I expect I'll be getting that from my bras.   ;)

Quote from: AnneK on April 19, 2019, 12:34:56 PM
I expect I'll be getting that from my bras.   ;)

You might not want to wear them when it is hot!  What about that feeling under those conditions?  ???

I still wear a bra when it's hot.  They're just uncomfortable then.

Incidentally, yesterday I noticed a tingling feeling in my penis.  Is this a normal experience when starting hormones?  I haven't felt it since and don't recall experiencing it before.

One thing I've noticed is I can't wait to take my next dose of HRT.  I take it first thing in the morning, but spend the rest of the day looking forward to the next morning.  I recall reading here, a while ago, about someone who waited a while trying to get up the nerve to take the first pill.  That certainly didn't happen with me.  I took it as soon as I got my prescription home.  I just couldn't wait any longer.  In fact, I was tempted to take it as soon as I had paid for it at the pharmacy.

Has anyone else experienced this sort of feeling?

Hi Annie, congratulations.

As the HRT switches your from a T based to an E based primary sex hormone your gonads may ache as well as your penis. If you have an erection it may become painful as the tissue had not expanded for a while.

I have been on HRT for 11 days.  It could be my imagination, but I seem to be filling my bra a bit more.  Is it too soon for growth?

Quote from: AnneK on April 18, 2019, 04:43:25 PM
I was just reading through the information sheet that came with my estradiol.  It's obvious it wasn't written with trans women in mind.   ;)

I have thought about this for many years and after I asked my doctor for the referral, I had moments when I wondered if I was doing the right thing.  Now, though, there's absolutely no doubt I am.  I couldn't wait to take the first pill yesterday and now look forward to the next one, and the next, and the...

I am very happy I've started this phase of my life and waiting to see the physical results.  They can't come soon enough!

Anne

Congratulations.

I pray your big win comes about the same time mine did. 

Roughly 4 weeks after starting HRT I finally felt at peace with myself.  That was this last Christmas.

Now I enjoy each day as it comes.  Each day I'm a little more feminine.   Where my transition journey will lead; I don't care.  That peace was all I ever wanted.

(OH, yes I have growing boobs!  ;-). )
Kate



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I've now been on HRT for 17 days.  I get the impression my breasts are a bit fuller and look more feminine.  I hope what I'm seeing is real!

One other thing I've noticed is I seem to be bumping a breast with my arms more often.

Quote from: AnneK on May 06, 2019, 10:00:50 AM
One other thing I've noticed is I seem to be bumping a breast with my arms more often.

Yeah, that'll happen.  :o

I wasn't sure if it's real or not, as according to timelines I've read, it should start around 3 months and I haven't hit 3 weeks yet.  However, my bra seems fuller and I've noticed a more feminine profile.  I haven't noticed buds yet.

Anne we are in close synch. I started Hrt on. 4/15.   It is difficult to say how much has changed.  Breasts are a little sensitive..  Real calm though.  I am 67.  I am outside Cleveland. Things here are very supportive,  my wife says I am more relaxed and it shows.  Patience, Sister!   

Gina

QuotePatience, Sister!

I guess I'll just have to hurry up and wait!   ;)

QuoteHowever, my bra seems fuller and I've noticed a more feminine profile.

Also, I wear a bra 24 hours/day.  Hopefully that might influence shape.

Quote from: AnneK on May 06, 2019, 10:09:08 PM
Also, I wear a bra 24 hours/day.  Hopefully that might influence shape.

Hi Anne:

I don't know if it will influence shape, but it will protect your growing girls!

For me, from about 1 month to 4 months on HRT, any bump or rub caused a very intense neurological response.  We'll just call it pain!  The extra layer of covering protected them some and made for a less intense neurological response. ;-)

Kate


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Quote from: AnneK on April 19, 2019, 01:17:38 PM
I still wear a bra when it's hot.  They're just uncomfortable then.

Incidentally, yesterday I noticed a tingling feeling in my penis.  Is this a normal experience when starting hormones?  I haven't felt it since and don't recall experiencing it before.

Anne, I am also 65, and started HRT in March, and have had no noticeable changes, except...... I am starting to have morning half erections, and my penis is slightly larger. I have had low T for years, so didn't need Spiro. My outy had almost shrunk to be an innie, and I was having trouble with my urine stream going all over the place, but since starting E, I have enough penis to at least manipulate a stream direction. I can even use a urinal which hasn't been possible for some time. I'm guessing the hormone has woken up my system and I'm going through some reactions, and I'll talk to my Endo about it at my next review soon, but it certainly hasn't been what I was expecting!

Allie

QuoteHowever, my bra seems fuller and I've noticed a more feminine profile.

A couple of things I've noticed.  First, my right breast used to be a bit larger than the left.  That's now reversed.  Also, they seem to be growing on the side towards my arms.

I just noticed something else.  As I was about to get dressed, I looked in the mirror and saw what might be the areola:growing on my right breast.  When I examined it closer, I found a small area, just above the nipple that has similar texture to the areola.  Is this the way the areola normally grows?

Just wait until they grow enough that you feel movement (jiggling) when you walk.  Talk about a weird and at the same time exciting sensation....

Kate


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Quote from: jkredman on May 08, 2019, 06:38:44 PM
Just wait until they grow enough that you feel movement (jiggling) when you walk.  Talk about a weird and at the same time exciting sensation....

I've often noticed that, particularly on stairs.  Even now, I'm starting to feel as though I'll need new bras shortly.

Hi,
You are right we are so lucky to be up here in the great white north with the recent changes. Once I finally decided to start HRT I simply made an appointment with a local psycologist specializing in gender issues and got in right away. Went to see my GP and got a referal to my Endo that only took a couple months and I had the hormones in my hands. I also work for municipal government so I have great benefits and Sun Life benefits in Canada just announced they would cover extras not covered by OHIP like FFS, Tracheal shave, voice surgery etc. Within a couple months I was on my way.   

For me, the only wait, after telling my doctor, was the endo appointment.  Apparently he's quite busy.  He has a regular practice in a hospital and decided to take on trans care.  According to his business card, he does endocrinology and metabolism.  My appointment took about a half hour and I then went across the street for the blood tests and then drove to my pharmacy to get the pills and took the first as soon as I got home.  As I'm 65, my prescriptions are covered under the Ontario Drug Benefit plan and I pay only the dispensing fee.  Of course all the medical stuff is completely covered under OHIP and that's not dependent on age.

My bras are definitely getting tighter!   :D

Quote from: AnneK on May 11, 2019, 10:45:35 AM
My bras are definitely getting tighter!   :D

won't be long and the itchy's do come along....

C -

Quote from: CynthiaAnn on May 11, 2019, 08:17:08 PM
won't be long and the itchy's do come along....

C -

Soooo very true! I think of it as confirmation that changes I want are, in fact, happening. Never did I think "Itching will release endorphins into your system because you are happy about it."

Ricki

Quote from: CynthiaAnn on May 11, 2019, 08:17:08 PM
won't be long and the itchy's do come along....

C -

Well, I'm looking forward to the changes.  Can't get here soon enough!   ;)


Dolly Parton, watch OUT!!!   ;) :D :D :D

Quote from: AnneK on May 08, 2019, 07:00:54 AM
I just noticed something else.  As I was about to get dressed, I looked in the mirror and saw what might be the areola:growing on my right breast.  When I examined it closer, I found a small area, just above the nipple that has similar texture to the areola.  Is this the way the areola normally grows?

It's now happening on both breasts and the colour is starting to change to that of the areola.

I love growing breasts!

Quote from: AnneK on May 12, 2019, 07:50:17 AM
It's now happening on both breasts and the colour is starting to change to that of the areola.

I love growing breasts!

Congrats!  Wait until they are large enough that you hit them all the time while doing just mundane things!  Just simply reaching over with one arm to the other side can give you solid pain signals!
One gets used to this, but it is a very sue reminder that they are there!

Quote from: Dietlind on May 12, 2019, 08:06:00 AM
Congrats!  Wait until they are large enough that you hit them all the time while doing just mundane things!  Just simply reaching over with one arm to the other side can give you solid pain signals!
One gets used to this, but it is a very sue reminder that they are there!

I already hit them frequently with my arm.  I'm surprised it's happening so soon, when the literature I've read says at least 3 months.  I wonder if being on dutasteride for over 2 years has given me a head start.

Quote from: AnneK on May 11, 2019, 10:45:35 AM
My bras are definitely getting tighter!   :D

It won't be long before I have to buy new bras.  Fortunately 38B and larger cup are much more readily available than the 38A I've been wearing.

Quote from: Linde on May 12, 2019, 08:06:00 AM
Congrats!  Wait until they are large enough that you hit them all the time while doing just mundane things!  Just simply reaching over with one arm to the other side can give you solid pain signals!
One gets used to this, but it is a very sue reminder that they are there!

I taped my chest trying to get a cat to jump in my lap and wow, it was like I had been hit in the groin levels of pain. My youngest daughter saw what I did and laughed saying "yeeeeaaah. That never goes away". I realized at that point that teen girls carried their books in front of their chest not to look smart, but as armor!

It's not just pain either, sometimes things will brush across them and it feels just so darned good!

A good moisturizer will help with the itching a bit, and silky t-shirts instead of typical male cotton t-shirts, will cut down on the chaffing. When T-shirts start to feel like sand paper, I suspect you will figure out that it is time to change materials.


Ricki

Quote from: Ricki Wright on May 12, 2019, 08:17:54 PM
I taped my chest trying to get a cat to jump in my lap and wow, it was like I had been hit in the groin levels of pain. My youngest daughter saw what I did and laughed saying "yeeeeaaah. That never goes away". I realized at that point that teen girls carried their books in front of their chest not to look smart, but as armor!

It's not just pain either, sometimes things will brush across them and it feels just so darned good!

A good moisturizer will help with the itching a bit, and silky t-shirts instead of typical male cotton t-shirts, will cut down on the chaffing. When T-shirts start to feel like sand paper, I suspect you will figure out that it is time to change materials.


Ricki

I am sorry to tell you that your daughter is right, the pain seems to  be there for pretty good.  I am working on my boobies for several years already, and the pain is still there.  One gets used to it after a while, but once in a while it hits by surprise.  I hate it when shorter persons try to hug me, and press either their shoulders or other body parts against my hurting boobs!

I am lucky here in southern Florida that we were only very light weight clothing, and I don't wear a bra most of the time, and have only the thin fabric on top of my nipples and that does not rub as bad.  I buy a lot of tops with breast pockets to hide the nipples away when not wearing a bra.

Tomorrow marks 4 weeks on HRT and I'm definitely seeing results.  When I look in the mirror, my breasts definitely look bigger, with a more feminine profile.  In addition, I see evidence that the areola are getting bigger.  When I hold my breasts, they're definitely a bigger handful and my bras are getting tighter.  So, all in all, I am growing, though not quite to the Dolly Parton stage yet.   ;) :D :D :D

BTW, I was at my doctor yesterday, about an unrelated issue.  When I told her my breasts were growing, her response was "good".   :)

Quote from: AnneK on May 12, 2019, 11:33:06 AM
It won't be long before I have to buy new bras.  Fortunately 38B and larger cup are much more readily available than the 38A I've been wearing.

there is a nice selection of 38b out there  :)

Quote from: CynthiaAnn on May 14, 2019, 10:00:14 AM
there is a nice selection of 38b out there  :)

Yep.  I was thinking about getting this one from WalMart.

https://www.walmart.ca/en/ip/wonderbra-wonderband-womens-wire-free-bra-white/1255125399789 (https://www.walmart.ca/en/ip/wonderbra-wonderband-womens-wire-free-bra-white/1255125399789)

Nothing fancy, just a plain beige bra.

Quote from: AnneK on May 11, 2019, 10:45:35 AM
My bras are definitely getting tighter!   :D

First bras have been retired. 

Bought 42D.....

Now looking for a couple of padded.

Kate


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Quote from: AnneK on May 14, 2019, 10:52:10 AM
Yep.  I was thinking about getting this one from WalMart.

https://www.walmart.ca/en/ip/wonderbra-wonderband-womens-wire-free-bra-white/1255125399789 (https://www.walmart.ca/en/ip/wonderbra-wonderband-womens-wire-free-bra-white/1255125399789)

Nothing fancy, just a plain beige bra.

I bought one yesterday.  While functional, it's nowhere near the quality of the bras from the bra shop.  Nowhere near the price either, so I guess that's to be expected.

I frequently check for changes and am happy to find them.  My breasts are definitely larger and firmer.  My nipples and areola also appear to be growing and I think my testicles are starting to shrink.  Looking forward to more change!!!  I just wish I'd started years ago.

4 weeks, I remember my 4th week. I was still wishing to see or feel some type of physical change. I'm glad for you that you didn't have to wait longer. My areola showed no significant signs of change until I tried progesterone. Shrinkage as well already? WOW. I continue to have shrinkage, I pray for an innie - still an outie though :(  ;D

QuoteShrinkage as well already?

I said "think" as I can't say for certain, but I do hope it's more than wishful thinking.

However, my breasts are definitely growing.  For example, I frequently hit them with my arms and when my arms are forward, as they are now for typing, they are pressing against my breasts.  Also, my bras are getting tighter and when I hold a breast in my hand it feels larger and firmer.  So yes, after 4 weeks, changes are happening.  In fact I started noticing just before the 3 week point.

at 3 weeks of E I noticed my sense of smell went bonkers

Quote from: CynthiaAnn on May 16, 2019, 07:43:16 AM
at 3 weeks of E I noticed my sense of smell went bonkers

I can't say that I've noticed that, though my sense of smell has long been sensitive.  I could often detect scents others couldn't.  Maybe it was already bonkers.   ;)

At around 3 weeks my smell and taste changed. I used to like Coke, now it just doesn't taste good at all..and I'm way more sensitive to odours, both good and bad..

Allie

Quoteused to like Coke, now it just doesn't taste good at all.

That change hit me years ago.  I used to like soft drinks, including Coke, Pepsi, etc., but these days I prefer water.  A few years ago, I bought a dozen cans (ginger ale IIRC) and it took me over 2 years to go through it!

Quote from: CynthiaAnn on May 14, 2019, 10:00:14 AM
there is a nice selection of 38b out there  :)

It looks like I'll be needing new bras sooner than I thought.  I was fitted about 3.5 years ago and have been comfortably wearing 38A since.  However, over the past week or so, my bras are now getting uncomfortably tight!  The way things are going, I don't know that I'll be stopping at B.

Perhaps I should stop by the bra shop and see about sports bras.  Walmart "quality" isn't that great.

Quote from: AnneK on May 16, 2019, 11:35:24 AM
It looks like I'll be needing new bras sooner than I thought.  I was fitted about 3.5 years ago and have been comfortably wearing 38A since.  However, over the past week or so, my bras are now getting uncomfortably tight!  The way things are going, I don't know that I'll be stopping at B.

Perhaps I should stop by the bra shop and see about sports bras.  Walmart "quality" isn't that great.

wow that's great news, you're on your way !

The sports bras I wear are by Spanx, I am sold on their "workout to waves" model, so comfy.

Enjoy !

C -

Quote from: CynthiaAnn on May 16, 2019, 01:29:17 PM
wow that's great news, you're on your way !

Yes, it's great to be getting real breasts!   ;)

They are noticeable in so many ways, aside from the tight bras.  For example, my arms are frequently hitting them and they're far more noticeable in my peripheral vision and more.  I am quite excited at the results that I've waited so long for!  I check the mirror every morning and night, to see if I can find more differences.  Perhaps I'll soon be passing Dolly Parton!   ;) :D :D :D

mirror mirror on the wall, show me girls after all.....

Quote from: AnneK on May 16, 2019, 06:05:15 AM
I think my testicles are starting to shrink.  Looking forward to more change!!!  I just wish I'd started years ago.

At about 3 1/2 months on estrogen I had the absolute shrinkage.  I took a nap in the morning, and when I woke up I had not a single testicle left!  >:-)
They were gone, as if somebody had cut them off!  ???

Quote from: CynthiaAnn on May 16, 2019, 07:43:16 AM
at 3 weeks of E I noticed my sense of smell went bonkers

3 weeks to about 9 weeks was awful scent wise. I was in an elevator with 6 guys and the conflicting scents of sweat and axe body spray applied with a hose, I was nauseous. Getting overwhelmed by smells has calmed down a bit thank goodness!

I have a weird one for you: About 4 months on E and 1 month on Spiro, my tinnitus calmed down to almost zero. I am so not unhappy about that!

Ricki

Quote from: Allie Jayne on May 16, 2019, 08:13:43 AM
At around 3 weeks my smell and taste changed. and I'm way more sensitive to odours, both good and bad..

Allie

I noticed this same thing, don't remember that in the side effects before starting. I absolutely can be turned to neaseu and gagging. I was never that way before. The worst part of all of it to me is the weight gain. Just packed on the pounds. Now the task of losing it all.

Quote from: Stepheewt on May 19, 2019, 03:12:52 PM
I noticed this same thing, don't remember that in the side effects before starting. I absolutely can be turned to neaseu and gagging. I was never that way before. The worst part of all of it to me is the weight gain. Just packed on the pounds. Now the task of losing it all.

Yes, the taste will change.  I used to like beer a lot, and now I can't stand anymore the taste and the smell of the stuff!

Quote from: Ricki Wright on May 17, 2019, 10:16:50 PM
3 weeks to about 9 weeks was awful scent wise. I was in an elevator with 6 guys and the conflicting scents of sweat and axe body spray applied with a hose, I was nauseous. Getting overwhelmed by smells has calmed down a bit thank goodness!

I have a weird one for you: About 4 months on E and 1 month on Spiro, my tinnitus calmed down to almost zero. I am so not unhappy about that!

Ricki

Ricki

I haven't had the tinnitus calm down yet, but yes the sense of smell has changed.

Yes, please keep me off of elevators, and help me make sure the food in the home is fresh!!!!!

Either that, or I need to put cotton up my nose....   ;-)

Kate


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 Speaking of changing tastes here's a weird one, for me. I've never been into really eating much candy, not my thing,  suddenly I'm craving it.  I'm big-time dying for like Caramello bars.  Once again bringing back to the weight gain thing  Lol

Quote from: Stepheewt on May 20, 2019, 08:20:23 AM
Speaking of changing tastes here's a weird one, for me. I've never been into really eating much candy, not my thing,  suddenly I'm craving it.  I'm big-time dying for like Caramello bars.  Once again bringing back to the weight gain thing  Lol

I would be willing to bet a half pound that it is not the candy bar, but the 75mg of salt in it that you are craving. Have a pickle next time instead. Dammit! Just typing "pickle" is making my mouth water!

Ricki

Quote from: Ricki Wright on May 22, 2019, 08:17:28 PM
I would be willing to bet a half pound that it is not the candy bar, but the 75mg of salt in it that you are craving. Have a pickle next time instead. Dammit! Just typing "pickle" is making my mouth water!

Ricki

Ok so I read that and said yeah right, of course I then craved Candy. So I just tried your suggestion, keep in mind I have never been big eating pickles.......

You were right...... I hate to admit it, but it was great.....who the heck knew E would make me like pickles.....Lol....
So Ricki......I bow to you the all knowing....seriously that's just crazy(and so much better on calories)

After just over 5 weeks on HRT, there is no doubt my breasts are growing and taking a more feminine shape.  My testicles also seem to be shrinking, so it appears my magic pills are doing their job.   ;)

BTW, I have long loved dill pickles, not just since starting HRT.

Quote from: AnneK on May 24, 2019, 08:29:14 AM

BTW, I have long loved dill pickles, not just since starting HRT.

me too, and popcorn, OMG the salty cravings

Quote from: CynthiaAnn on May 24, 2019, 08:48:29 AM
me too, and popcorn, OMG the salty cravings

Actually, I've lost my appetite for popcorn over the past few years.  While I enjoy some salty things, I don't use a lot of it on my food.  I don't have a craving for it, as Nancy Crater does.   ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHAtynCsUWM

@AnneK, that's a classic, my coffee is spilling this morning !! does that mean when the salt is gone you turn into Nancy ?

Thanks for the smiles this morning  :D

Quote from: CynthiaAnn on May 24, 2019, 09:13:36 AM
@AnneK, that's a classic, my coffee is spilling this morning !! does that mean when the salt is gone you turn into Nancy ?

Thanks for the smiles this morning  :D

Of course, the important question is why those guys who croaked aren't wearing red shirts! 

I've been on HRT for almost 6 weeks and all I can say is it appears to be working!  My breasts are definitely growing and my testicles are shrinking.  I'm very happy with the changes!   :)

While I can see and feel the increase in breast size, the thing that makes it most noticeable is how my arms are frequently hitting my breasts, even if I'm doing nothing more than sitting at my desk and reading.  Very nice feeling!

Quote from: AnneK on November 05, 2018, 09:28:40 PM
And yes, our health care here is good, despite what Trump claims.  That flu shot was also covered.  I also made an appointment with my urologist last week.  I called on Monday and had an appointment for Thursday.  When I see what happens with health care in the U.S., I'm glad I don't live there.  Then we get to Trump's attacks on our community and others.

Hi Anne,

I'm so glad to hear that things are working out so well for you. I sure wish I lived in Canada. I live in the states and it's horrible here. Donald Trump is the absolute worst!! I would have said something much more stern but I've already been given a warning about talking like that on here...ha ha ha.  >:-)

But seriously people in the know here in the states understand that your healthcare system is far superior to ours. In fact I think in the latest W.H.O rankings we've dropped down a few more spots to something like 18th in the world. More often than not I'm ashamed of my country.

xoxo
Lexxi

QuoteBut seriously people in the know here in the states understand that your healthcare system is far superior to ours.

I was at my doctor 3 times in the past 3 weeks for another issue.  This resulted in X-rays and ultrasound.  The X-ray clinic was a walk in, no appointment needed.  My doctor arranged for my ultrasound, which happened a few days later.  For all this, I only had to pay for parking for the ultrasound.  I also picked up a renewal for one of my meds yesterday.  Total cost to me, $4.11.

Quote from: Lexxi on May 31, 2019, 03:38:31 PM
Hi Anne,

I'm so glad to hear that things are working out so well for you. I sure wish I lived in Canada. I live in the states and it's horrible here. Donald Trump is the absolute worst!! I would have said something much more stern but I've already been given a warning about talking like that on here...ha ha ha.  >:-)

But seriously people in the know here in the states understand that your healthcare system is far superior to ours. In fact I think in the latest W.H.O rankings we've dropped down a few more spots to something like 18th in the world. More often than not I'm ashamed of my country.

xoxo
Lexxi

As a health care professional, who has worked in the US and in other countries, I would like to make the statement that the US has one of the very beat health care systems of the world......... But the delivery of health care sucks big time.

It is the problem that many people have no aces to the really good system.  It is the delivery which is the problem.  And the delivery is controlled by the insurance system in this country!  A sick situation that companies who make money b paying out as little as possible are in control of the availability of health care for so many!

Hi AnneK!

Toronto here also, just going to restart HRT after a 8 year break due to other issues.  Have to start the journey again in finding a new endo etc. but not too worried.  But at 62 now wondering if there's a reason not to start up.  The first time I noticed definite effects after 2 solid years, both physical and psychological.  Maybe psychosomatic LOL.  But having the calming effect and peace of mind is a real benefit.

Ever want to chat let me know!