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Title: Comparison of our HRT Blood Test Results after 9 or 10 Months
Post by: pamelatransuk on November 16, 2018, 10:15:45 AM
Hello Everyone

You may recall that in May and August I compiled previous tables on BT Results.

So once again I invite anyone that wishes to provide with their E and T Blood Test results after either 3/4 months or after 6/7 months or after 9/10 months, please do so on this thread please and I shall happily add you to the table(s). Please state whether you are providing International or US Units and I shall happily convert accordingly as the table provides both for comparison purposes.

I am doing this exercise in May, August and November 2018 and February 2019 just to see if there are any statistical trends we may see; I accept we may not see anything more than coincidence especially since I do not possess (and I do not wish to possess) details of dosage. Anyone may inform me but only if they wish of their medication name but not dosage of course. I do not wish any table to be regarded in any way as "League" or "Performance" table.

The current tables are as follows:


                                   HRT Blood Test Results after 3 or 4 Months


                               E (Intnl)            E (US)       T (Intnl)       T (US)

Pamela                       922                  251               1.6              46

Sarah                         297                    81               1.1              32

Devlyn                       338                    92                4.8            140

Deborah                     261                    71                5.5            158

Kathy                         698                  190                0.2                6

Tonya                         224                    61                5.4            156

Katie                          364                     99               0.2                6

Kaitylynn                    220                     60               3.8             110

Allison                       1178                   321                1.6              47

Charlie Nicki                173                    47                5.3             154

Sadie                        2577                   702               0.4               12
   
KayXo                         974                   265               1.5               43

Casady                        821                  224                4.2             121

Kirsten                        915                   249               0.8               23

Sarahthenerd               202                     55             12.6             365

VickiMI                        206                     56               0.2                 6

Soph                           278                     76               5.9             170

Kendra                          92                     25              21               595



                                   HRT Blood Test Results after 6 or 7 Months


                               E (Intnl)            E (US)       T (Intnl)       T (US)

Pamela                      1662                   453             2.4              69

Sarah                         349                    95               0.4              12

Devlyn                        720                   196               1.8              53

Deborah                     430                   117               4.2            120

Kathy                         303                     83              0.5               14

Tonya                         268                    73                1.1              32

Katie                          254                     69               0.2                5.8

Kaitylynn                    162                     44               1.0               30

Allison                         826                   225             <0.1             <2.5

Charlie Nicki                213                     58               2.6              74

Sadie                        1296                   353               0.4               12

Casady                      1067                   291               3.1               90

Kirsten                       422                    115               0.4               12

Kendra                       147                      40               5                 142       


                                   HRT Blood Test Results after 9 or 10 Months


                               E (Intnl)            E (US)       T (Intnl)       T (US)

Pamela                       TBD                  TBD               0.7             20

Kathy                         193                    53               3.3              95

Charlie Nicki                334                    91               0.4              11

Sadie                          826                   225              0.6              17

Kirsten                        736                    200              0.5               14



May I thank all those ladies who have already supplied their figures for me.

Hugs to you all

Pamela
Title: Re: Comparison of our HRT Blood Test Results after 9 or 10 Months
Post by: pamelatransuk on November 19, 2018, 04:36:32 AM
The current tables are as follows:


                                   HRT Blood Test Results after 3 or 4 Months


                               E (Intnl)            E (US)       T (Intnl)       T (US)

Pamela                       922                  251               1.6              46

Sarah                         297                    81               1.1              32

Devlyn                       338                    92                4.8            140

Deborah                     261                    71                5.5            158

Kathy                         698                  190                0.2                6

Tonya                         224                    61                5.4            156

Katie                          364                     99               0.2                6

Kaitylynn                    220                     60               3.8             110

Allison                       1178                   321                1.6              47

Charlie Nicki                173                    47                5.3             154

Sadie                        2577                   702               0.4               12
   
KayXo                         974                   265               1.5               43

Casady                        821                  224                4.2             121

Kirsten                        915                   249               0.8               23

Sarahthenerd               202                     55             12.6             365

VickiMI                        206                     56               0.2                 6

Soph                           278                     76               5.9             170

Kendra                          92                     25              21               595

Marcie                          371                  101                -                  -



                                   HRT Blood Test Results after 6 or 7 Months


                               E (Intnl)            E (US)       T (Intnl)       T (US)

Pamela                      1662                   453             2.4              69

Sarah                         349                    95               0.4              12

Devlyn                        720                   196               1.8              53

Deborah                     430                   117               4.2            120

Kathy                         303                     83              0.5               14

Tonya                         268                    73                1.1              32

Katie                          254                     69               0.2                5.8

Kaitylynn                    162                     44               1.0               30

Allison                         826                   225             <0.1             <2.5

Charlie Nicki                213                     58               2.6              74

Sadie                        1296                   353               0.4               12

Casady                      1067                   291               3.1               90

Kirsten                       422                    115               0.4               12

Kendra                       147                      40               5                 142

Marcie                        184                      50               -                   -


                                   HRT Blood Test Results after 9 or 10 Months


                               E (Intnl)            E (US)       T (Intnl)       T (US)

Pamela                       TBD                  TBD               0.7             20

Kathy                         193                    53               3.3              95

Charlie Nicki                334                    91               0.4              11

Sadie                          826                   225              0.6              17

Kirsten                        736                   200              0.5              14

Kendra                        698                   190              0.6              18

Marcie                         516                   140              0.3                9


Any more BT results may either be sent to me by PM or listed as a post on this thread and I shall happily add to the tables. Thank you ladies.

Hugs

Pamela 


Title: Re: Comparison of our HRT Blood Test Results after 9 or 10 Months
Post by: pamelatransuk on November 27, 2018, 04:44:30 AM
results 26/11/18 - 10 months

Katie's BT Results

Serum testosterone level < 0.2 nmol/L [8.3 - 27.8]

Serum oestradiol level 223 pmol/L [95.0 - 223.0]

so dropped from last tests despite increase of dosage

luv n hugz

Katie

Nov 26th


Katie has posted me her results which I shall shortly add to the table.

Thank you Katie and sorry your E level has fallen but at least there is only a minimal drop.

Wishing you well and sending love.

Hugs

Pamela  xx
Title: Re: Comparison of our HRT Blood Test Results after 9 or 10 Months
Post by: pamelatransuk on November 28, 2018, 04:30:04 AM
fgsb's BT results - 4 months

Finally got my 4 month results back!!!

I started at (07/06/2018) T= 346 and E= 23

After 120 days (11/01/2018), I am at T= 37.3 and E= 116.6

Going to be 38 in December


fgsb has posted me her results which I shall shortly add to the 4 month table.

Thank you fgsb and sending hugs to you.

Pamela  xx
Title: Re: Comparison of our HRT Blood Test Results after 9 or 10 Months
Post by: pamelatransuk on December 10, 2018, 04:58:43 AM
Veracious Valerie's BT results - 4 months

I have been o HRT for 4 months now.
1st month was just a low dose of E.
2nd month doubled my E.
3rd month started Spiro.
5th month. In a week I go back in to talk about my latest blood results. Here they are...

Day -10(Days before starting any meds) Aug 09th
Testosterone=392 ng/dL
Estradiol=17 pg/mL

Day 30 Sep 19th
Testosterone=201 ng/dL
Estradiol=58 pg/mL

Day 109 Dec 7th
Testosterone=48 ng/dL
Estradiol=145 pg/mL

I am 37. Turn 38 on International women day (March 8th)  :)
We are very similar. That is nice to see.


Veracious Valerie has posted me her results which I shall shortly add to the 4 month table.

Thank you Veracious Valerie and sending hugs to you.

Pamela  xx



Title: Re: Comparison of our HRT Blood Test Results after 9 or 10 Months
Post by: pamelatransuk on December 10, 2018, 05:36:44 AM
The current 9/10 Month table is as below.


                                  HRT Blood Test Results after 9 or 10 Months


                               E (Intnl)            E (US)       T (Intnl)       T (US)

Pamela                       442                  120               0.7             20

Kathy                         193                    53               3.3              95

Katie                          223                    61               0.2               5.8

Charlie Nicki                334                    91               0.4              11

Sadie                          826                   225              0.6              17

Casady                       688                   187              3.6              104

Kirsten                        736                   200              0.5              14

Kendra                        698                   190              0.6              18

Marcie                         516                   140              0.3                9


Several participants did not have a reading taken after 9/10 months but had to wait till after 12/13 months

Any more BT results may either be sent to me by PM or listed as a post on this thread and I shall happily add to the tables. Thank you ladies.

Hugs

Pamela 
Title: Re: Comparison of our HRT Blood Test Results after 9 or 10 Months
Post by: pamelatransuk on December 17, 2018, 06:33:44 AM
Hello again

I was just wondering if any of you dear girls would like to let me know their E and T Blood Test results please.

I invite anyone that wishes to provide with their E and T Blood Test results after either 3/4 months or after 6/7 months or after 9/10 months, please do so on this thread please and I shall happily add you to the table(s). Please state whether you are providing International or US Units and I shall happily convert accordingly as the table provides both for comparison purposes.

I know from experience that many of you have Blood Tests after 3/4 then 6/7 then 12/13 months thus omitting the 9/10 month period.

May I also take this opportunity of wishing those kind ladies. who have already contributed or who will contribute to this Comparison Exercise, a very happy Christmas. May you achieve all your transition goals.

Thanking you and Hugs to all

Pamela  xx

Title: Re: Comparison of our HRT Blood Test Results after 9 or 10 Months
Post by: pamelatransuk on January 07, 2019, 03:37:13 AM
Hello Everyone

Joanna Jones CD has provided this very informative comment on her thread "Estrodiol and Bicalutamide" which I am copying to this thread. The numbers she refers to are US units:


"Thanks Pamela for your link.  It is very interesting.  The overall data gives us a definitive direction of the numbers when looking at the averages of all of the girls combined over time.

When taking Estrodiol orally and someone wants to have a clearer picture of their own data sets, from my research it does make a big difference when these tests are done in relation to the last dosage.  I am hoping my own E numbers mimic the predictability charts.  I am going to always have my tests done 3.5 hours after taking my dosage of E.  That should then give me a 200 ng/dL.   (Plus an unknown slight increase of E from the effects of bica added to the 200.) From what I understand, bica will also raise your E levels somewhat just by itself.  The reason why I want my number to be around 200, is to make sure my doctor is happy with my goal.  If I did the test after two hours, my E number would be around 400, and he would insist that I take less.  If I waited to take the test 12 hours after my last dosage, he would probably start giving me to much of a dosage.

The larger difference of numbers between each girl I think is because of the time of last dosage.  For instance, if you were to take 2 mg Estrodiol sublingual, 1 hour later you should have a E test reading around 800.  If a test done 8 hours later in the day after last dosage, you could only expect 90-100 or so, 12 hours it could be 70 or lower.  T levels too are determined at time of day.  If you take the blood test early in the day vs in the afternoon, it would make a big difference since the production of T is at its highest first thing in the morning.

I think the key in a good data set, is just make sure your testing is done at the same time during the day for all tests.  Therefore comparing the results from each blood test is more accurate in trying to achieving the direction of the numbers, as oppose the numbers themselves."

Thank you Joanna for this.

Hugs to all

Pamela


Any more girls wish to provide E&T results for 3/4 or 6/7 or 9/10 Months please? Thank you
Title: Re: Comparison of our HRT Blood Test Results after 9 or 10 Months
Post by: Jenny1969 on January 08, 2019, 09:54:16 AM
Following
Title: Re: Comparison of our HRT Blood Test Results after 9 or 10 Months
Post by: josie76 on January 09, 2019, 04:17:39 AM
Hi Pamela, I just had my second blood test ever
I am post orchi and take micronized progesterone and estradiol with buccal absorption. In US units

T: <3
E: 1237 (this was less than 2 hours after taking my pill)
Title: Re: Comparison of our HRT Blood Test Results after 9 or 10 Months
Post by: pamelatransuk on January 09, 2019, 06:13:50 AM
Thank you Jenny and I note you expect to let me have your 3 month BT results for E&T in due course as you started HRT in December.

Thank you Josie and I note your information and BT results after 22 months HRT.

Hugs

Pamela
Title: Re: Comparison of our HRT Blood Test Results after 9 or 10 Months
Post by: pamelatransuk on January 16, 2019, 09:23:50 AM
Sarahthenerd and Katie Ellen have recently provided their 6 months BT results for which I thank them.

Herewith latest 6/7 months table:

                                 HRT Blood Test Results after 6 or 7 Months


                               E (Intnl)            E (US)       T (Intnl)       T (US)

Pamela                      1662                   453             2.4              69

Sarah                         349                    95               0.4              12

Devlyn                        720                   196               1.8              53

Deborah                     430                   117               4.2            120

Kathy                         303                     83              0.5               14

Tonya                         268                    73                1.1              32

Katie                          254                     69               0.2                5.8

Kaitylynn                    162                     44               1.0               30

Allison                         826                   225             <0.1             <2.5

Charlie Nicki                213                     58               2.6              74

Sadie                        1296                   353               0.4               12

Casady                      1067                   291               3.1               90

Kirsten                       422                    115               0.4               12

Sarahthenerd              202                      55              13.8             399

Kendra                       147                      40               5                 142

Marcie                        184                      50               -                   -

Katie Ellen                  551                     150              12.5             362



Hugs

Pamela

Title: Re: Comparison of our HRT Blood Test Results after 9 or 10 Months
Post by: Melinda@heart on January 17, 2019, 12:27:57 PM
9 Month results in U.S. values.

E 60
T 12

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Title: Re: Comparison of our HRT Blood Test Results after 9 or 10 Months
Post by: JanePlain on January 18, 2019, 10:47:44 PM
My last labs (US) after I quit taking an aromatace inhibitor (Which my Endo prescribed because I was complaining how I wasn't liking how I felt trying to "male up" with Testosterone)

Estrogen 130 pg/mL
Title: Re: Comparison of our HRT Blood Test Results after 9 or 10 Months
Post by: JanePlain on January 18, 2019, 11:06:17 PM
Oops... Hit the wrong key.   *Note all my labs are post orchiectomy.  I never took spiro.

I don't have any post HRT labs yet.  I only went "legit" with my Endo a fairly short time ago so the next ones will be the first to show how they look with just a tiny amount of Testosterone and the first where I'm using estrogel.

I don't have post HRT labs yet but here are my latest labs after I had stopped taking an Aromatase inhibitor which was squashing my estrogen levels.  I was still taking male levels of testosterone.   Estrogen 130 pg/mL      Testosterone 596 ng/dL   *Note I started feeling better when my E2 levels tripled and this was when I made up my mind to quit trying to "male up" and try dialing down the testosterone and start taking Estrogen.

My labs when I was taking an aromatase inhibitor and where I felt "wrong"  Zero sex drive, binary emotions (Angry or nothing) but mostly depression were Estrogen 42 pg/mL  (Normal male  range 60-190?)  Testosterone 620 ng/dL (Normal male range 250-1100?) 

Somewhere I have labs after having Prostate cancer surgery where I wasn't allowed to take testosterone for a year and didn't have the guts to insist on estrogen therapy.  This was probably the worst mix of all.  Awful...
Title: Re: Comparison of our HRT Blood Test Results after 9 or 10 Months
Post by: JanePlain on January 18, 2019, 11:08:02 PM
Quote from: josie76 on January 09, 2019, 04:17:39 AM
Hi Pamela, I just had my second blood test ever
I am post orchi and take micronized progesterone and estradiol with buccal absorption. In US units

T: <3
E: 1237 (this was less than 2 hours after taking my pill)

I haven't talked to my endo about progesterone and know next to nothing.  Can you say anything about that as to why and how it works for you?
Title: Re: Comparison of our HRT Blood Test Results after 9 or 10 Months
Post by: pamelatransuk on January 19, 2019, 06:13:39 AM
Hello again Jane

I am so happy you have found the right path with Estrogen.

I note you don't have any post HRT BT results as yet but please free to let me know them after 3/4 months if you wish.

Thanking you and Hugs

Pamela
Title: Re: Comparison of our HRT Blood Test Results after 9 or 10 Months
Post by: JanePlain on January 19, 2019, 08:08:06 PM
I don't have a date yet for my first post HRT labs but I'm happy to put out some numbers.  I know dose info is not allowed but I do have to say I'm really curious about how they get the results they do.   For example transdermal gels versus pills or injections. 

Thanking you back for doing this and hugs to you as well.
Title: Re: Comparison of our HRT Blood Test Results after 9 or 10 Months
Post by: GordonG on January 20, 2019, 02:26:01 PM
Quote from: JanePlain on January 19, 2019, 08:08:06 PM
I know dose info is not allowed but I do have to say I'm really curious about how they get the results they do.

I wish we could talk about dosage here. I honestly believe that the rule of not doing so, so that others won't be able to self medicate is being blind to reality. There is plenty of other sources on the web that do talk about dose that this is not a hindrance to those who choose to self medicate.
Title: Re: Comparison of our HRT Blood Test Results after 9 or 10 Months
Post by: JanePlain on January 21, 2019, 05:56:52 PM
Yes, I guess I agree and truth is I guess the answers for doses etc really are everywhere so maybe this is one place to not have that so that people know self medicating is not a good idea.   It was probably this rule that made me fess up to my doctor.  Which while scary (Until I did it and found out I have the coolest doctor)
Title: Re: Comparison of our HRT Blood Test Results after 9 or 10 Months
Post by: Kate.claire on January 21, 2019, 11:10:53 PM
Hi all,
New to posting, but I guess this finally drew me out.  I'm 43 and have been on EV injections only the last 3 months, and on a patch for 25 days before that.  I switched due to skin irritation and because I prefer just having to remember an injection every other Sunday.  No androgen blockers or others drugs for now,  I wanted to see how E only went before adding in Spiro... as I had low E for a male starting out (around 150).  Readings in US measurements exactly a week between injections:
3+ months:
E (418)
T (15)

My doctor and I are pretty happy with these results so far, so going to continue with E only to my 6 month mark.

Thanks for tracking this!

-Kate
Title: Re: Comparison of our HRT Blood Test Results after 9 or 10 Months
Post by: pamelatransuk on January 22, 2019, 05:00:11 AM
Thank you Kate Claire for your 4 months BT results.

Herewith latest 3/4 month table.

                                HRT Blood Test Results after 3 or 4 Months


                               E (Intnl)            E (US)       T (Intnl)       T (US)

Pamela                       922                  251               1.6              46

Sarah                         297                    81               1.1              32

Devlyn                       338                    92                4.8            140

Deborah                     261                    71                5.5            158

Kathy                         698                  190                0.2                6

Tonya                         224                    61                5.4            156

Katie                          364                     99               0.2                6

Kaitylynn                    220                     60               3.8             110

Allison                       1178                   321                1.6              47

Charlie Nicki                173                    47                5.3             154

Sadie                        2577                   702               0.4               12
   
KayXo                         974                   265               1.5               43

Casady                        821                  224                4.2             121

Kirsten                        915                   249               0.8               23

Sarahthenerd               202                     55             12.6             365

VickiMI                        206                     56               0.2                 6

Soph                           278                     76               5.9             170

Kendra                          92                     25              21               595

Marcie                          371                  101                -                  -

Kate Claire                   1535                 418               0.5               15


Hugs

Pamela
Title: Re: Comparison of our HRT Blood Test Results after 9 or 10 Months
Post by: pamelatransuk on January 22, 2019, 05:08:02 AM
Thank you Melinda for your 9 months BT results.

Herewith latest 9/10 month table.

                                HRT Blood Test Results after 9 or 10 Months


                               E (Intnl)            E (US)       T (Intnl)       T (US)

Pamela                       442                  120               0.7             20

Kathy                         193                    53               3.3              95

Katie                          223                    61               0.2               5.8

Charlie Nicki                334                    91               0.4              11

Sadie                          826                   225              0.6              17

Casady                       688                   187              3.6              104

Kirsten                        736                   200              0.5              14

Kendra                        698                   190              0.6              18

Marcie                         516                   140              0.3                9

Melinda                       220                     60              0.4              12


Hugs

Pamela
Title: Re: Comparison of our HRT Blood Test Results after 9 or 10 Months
Post by: Joanna Jones CD on January 29, 2019, 02:45:57 PM
Quote from: GordonG on January 20, 2019, 02:26:01 PM
I wish we could talk about dosage here. I honestly believe that the rule of not doing so, so that others won't be able to self medicate is being blind to reality. There is plenty of other sources on the web that do talk about dose that this is not a hindrance to those who choose to self medicate.

Same here too.  I am working with my doctor who has never treated anyone on a MTF HRT program.  Since I am living in a small community, there are no other choices unless I wanted to drive 60 miles each way.  I feel it it my job to try and inform my doctor of all of the dosage requirements based on my tests.  This is a great forum, but lacks critical information.  A well informed patient is a key component of ones proper care with their own doctor.  This forum would be so much better if we could share all of our dosages.  If however, this is not done because of liability issues with the owner of this website, then it is understandable.
Title: Re: Comparison of our HRT Blood Test Results after 9 or 10 Months
Post by: GordonG on January 29, 2019, 02:53:42 PM
Quote from: Joanna Jones CD on January 29, 2019, 02:45:57 PM
Same here too.  I am working with my doctor who has never treated anyone on a MTF HRT program.  Since I am living in a small community, there are no other choices unless I wanted to drive 60 miles each way.  I feel it it my job to try and inform my doctor of all of the dosage requirements based on my tests.  This is a great forum, but lacks critical information.  A well informed patient is a key component of ones proper care with their own doctor.  This forum would be so much better if we could share all of our dosages.  If however, this is not done because of liability issues with the owner of this website, then it is understandable.

I'm a member of another web forum that does talk about doses.  In fact that's all they talk about is hormones, dosage and blood test results. There is a lot of info there.
Title: Re: Comparison of our HRT Blood Test Results after 9 or 10 Months
Post by: Dena on January 29, 2019, 05:47:47 PM
Quote from: Joanna Jones CD on January 29, 2019, 02:45:57 PM
Same here too.  I am working with my doctor who has never treated anyone on a MTF HRT program.  Since I am living in a small community, there are no other choices unless I wanted to drive 60 miles each way.  I feel it it my job to try and inform my doctor of all of the dosage requirements based on my tests.  This is a great forum, but lacks critical information.  A well informed patient is a key component of ones proper care with their own doctor.  This forum would be so much better if we could share all of our dosages.  If however, this is not done because of liability issues with the owner of this website, then it is understandable.
Dosage information might be informative however blood levels are far more informative and may be posted. As a moderator, I remove all sorts of dosage from the posts and some, under doctor supervision are well above the recommended levels. Others like mine are halve dosage with levels in the menopause levels but they still produce results. Finding the correct dosage is a balancing act between you and your endo and what works for you may not work for another.
Title: Re: Comparison of our HRT Blood Test Results after 9 or 10 Months
Post by: JanePlain on January 30, 2019, 11:13:24 AM
I think the policy is to try to limit the number of people who self medicate (I was guilty of this) and on saying that I would add that its very liberating to had a doctor on board and see that your not screwing yourself up following amateur advice.

I think your doctor will be easily capable of adjusting meds to hit a proper range.  Its also pretty easy to use labs that indicate normal male/female ranges.   Some of the more variable things like doing estrogen without blockers might not be on your GPs radar but take my advice and bring in some print outs to ask your doctor about.   Be prepared to learn everything on the Internet is not correct.   :D
Title: Re: Comparison of our HRT Blood Test Results after 9 or 10 Months
Post by: Joanna Jones CD on January 30, 2019, 12:01:24 PM
Quote from: JanePlain on January 30, 2019, 11:13:24 AM
I think the policy is to try to limit the number of people who self medicate

Self medicating without doctor overview is playing Russian roulette.  Is that what you really want to do with your body?  Most of us would say no.  But excluding some information for all to see, is not the answer.  I am new to HRT having just started 3 months ago.  But I live in an area of the country that have doctors with very limited knowledge or none at all when it comes to MtF.  In another 6-12 months, I will be moving to Las Vegas.  It looks like there are a few doctors with more than enough expertise in this field that will be able to take over my care.  Still though, I want as much information as possible with the risks/rewards associated with HRT.  I know from other websites what other people are taking for dosage.  Anyone that is self medicating can go to those same sites to get that info too.  I just feel a complete full discussion might help the overall general group as a whole.  I know that it will never happen here at this site, but just my opinion.

Each person needs are totally different from someone else.  The proper dosage must be made by the doctor and patient, not from some website as an absolute figure.  I love data points.  The more that I have the better that I feel in making life long modifications to my body.
Title: Re: Comparison of our HRT Blood Test Results after 9 or 10 Months
Post by: Bibi on January 31, 2019, 05:33:18 PM
Ok, after almost exactly 5 months, I am at 98 pg/mL estradiol and 48 ng/dL testosterone. Not sure where that puts me as my next appointment is next week, but it seems like some progress!
Title: Re: Comparison of our HRT Blood Test Results after 9 or 10 Months
Post by: Jenny1969 on February 01, 2019, 08:27:46 AM
Hello

I am eagerly waiting for my labs to come back.  They drew blood on the 30th so any day now.   This will be only 1 month on E for me.......Do you want those numbers or no?
Title: Re: Comparison of our HRT Blood Test Results after 9 or 10 Months
Post by: pamelatransuk on February 02, 2019, 04:12:22 AM
Bibi

Thank you for your readings which I shall add to the tables mid February.

Jenny

Any readings are always welcome. Thanking you in advance for yours next week.

Hugs

Pamela
Title: Re: Comparison of our HRT Blood Test Results after 9 or 10 Months
Post by: Bibi on February 02, 2019, 11:16:50 AM
Thank you, Pamela!! :D
Title: Re: Comparison of our HRT Blood Test Results after 9 or 10 Months
Post by: Linde on February 06, 2019, 09:37:43 AM
I don't know how to convert my US levels into international ones (can somebody post the formula for that, please?)

I was just tested, after 3 months on HRT.  However, my doc feels that my T levels were very low for many years already.

T 74
E 63.8

I seem to be low on T and E.  T might go away fully, once I had my orchi in a few weeks (days??, depending on scheduling).
I don't know how I can convince my endo to increase my estrogen, he does no want it to be more because of the danger of DVT!  I might want to find an endo who is willing to take a little more risk with me!  But there are not many endos around here in southern Florida, because of the old population they are not really needed!
Title: Re: Comparison of our HRT Blood Test Results after 9 or 10 Months
Post by: Jenny1969 on February 06, 2019, 10:30:23 AM
Quote from: pamelatransuk on February 02, 2019, 04:12:22 AM
Bibi

Thank you for your readings which I shall add to the tables mid February.

Jenny

Any readings are always welcome. Thanking you in advance for yours next week.

Hugs





Ok here is what I got for my first lab results after 30 days on HRT

E-45
T-3.47

Pamela
Title: Re: Comparison of our HRT Blood Test Results after 9 or 10 Months
Post by: Dena on February 06, 2019, 03:55:23 PM
Quote from: Dietlind on February 06, 2019, 09:37:43 AM
I don't know how to convert my US levels into international ones (can somebody post the formula for that, please?)

ESTRADIOL LEVELS
SEX                     pg/ml
Women (> 18 years old)   
      Follicular Phase  30-120
      Ovulatory Peak   130-370
      Luteal Phase      70-250
      Post-Menopausal   15-60
Male                    15-60

TOTAL TESTOSTERONE LEVELS
SEX      ng/dl        ng/ml
Females  6 - 86     0.1 - 1.2
Males  270 - 1100   2.4 - 12
Conversion factor: 1 ng/ml = 3.47 nmol/l
Title: Re: Comparison of our HRT Blood Test Results after 9 or 10 Months
Post by: Linde on February 06, 2019, 04:17:55 PM
Quote from: Dena on February 06, 2019, 03:55:23 PM

ESTRADIOL LEVELS
SEX                     pg/ml
Women (> 18 years old)   
      Follicular Phase  30-120
      Ovulatory Peak   130-370
      Luteal Phase      70-250
      Post-Menopausal   15-60
Male                    15-60

TOTAL TESTOSTERONE LEVELS
SEX      ng/dl        ng/ml
Females  6 - 86     0.1 - 1.2
Males  270 - 1100   2.4 - 12
Conversion factor: 1 ng/ml = 3.47 nmol/l

Thanks!  That seems to indicate that I basically do not have any testosterone to speak of (or am in the female range).  I am also with E in the luteal phase at the very low end.  The devil knows how I should feminize more than my system is doing anyway!  I think I have to find a different endo!
Title: Re: Comparison of our HRT Blood Test Results after 9 or 10 Months
Post by: pamelatransuk on February 07, 2019, 04:16:24 AM
Linde

Clearly you are interested in BT readings as am I and as is KathyLauren.

I attach below Kathy's "Unit Conversions" thread which explains arithmetical calculations.


https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,234373.msg2104271.html#msg2104271

Hugs

Pamela
Title: Re: Comparison of our HRT Blood Test Results after 9 or 10 Months
Post by: Linde on February 07, 2019, 07:53:28 AM
Quote from: pamelatransuk on February 07, 2019, 04:16:24 AM
Linde

Clearly you are interested in BT readings as am I and as is KathyLauren.

I attach below Kathy's "Unit Conversions" thread which explains arithmetical calculations.


https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,234373.msg2104271.html#msg2104271

Hugs

Pamela
Thank you Pamela!
Title: Re: Comparison of our HRT Blood Test Results after 9 or 10 Months
Post by: judithlynn on February 10, 2019, 01:49:44 AM
Hi Pamela;
I am due to get my T, E and P tests done next week and I have my E & T results for the last couple of years. When i get the new results I will post up my results as well. Note I have been on E only for nearly 11 years and Promethium for just 1 year. I have never had T Blockers, mainly because my T was so low to start with.
Judith Lynnn
Title: Re: Comparison of our HRT Blood Test Results after 9 or 10 Months
Post by: pamelatransuk on February 10, 2019, 07:11:45 AM
Hello again Judith

Thank you very much for agreeing to post your E&T results next week including 2 years retrospection. I am most grateful for that.

I hope you don't mind me asking but on the "Periodlike Symptoms" thread you stated your T in nmol as expected for Australia (or UK) but you stated your E in pg/ml (US system) instead of the customary pmol. Did you do the conversion yourself from Intl to US as per "Unit Conversions" thread attached to replies to this thread on Feb 7th or is your E of 163 in fact in pmol please?

Thanking you

Hugs

Pamela
Title: Re: Comparison of our HRT Blood Test Results after 9 or 10 Months
Post by: pamelatransuk on February 16, 2019, 08:49:02 AM
Thank you Linde for your 3 Months BT results.

Herewith latest 3/4 month table.

                                HRT Blood Test Results after 3 or 4 Months


                               E (Intnl)            E (US)       T (Intnl)       T (US)

Pamela                       922                  251               1.6              46

Sarah                         297                    81               1.1              32

Devlyn                       338                    92                4.8            140

Deborah                     261                    71                5.5            158

Kathy                         698                  190                0.2                6

Tonya                         224                    61                5.4            156

Katie                          364                     99               0.2                6

Kaitylynn                    220                     60               3.8             110

Allison                       1178                   321                1.6              47

Charlie Nicki                173                    47                5.3             154

Sadie                        2577                   702               0.4               12
   
KayXo                         974                   265               1.5               43

Casady                        821                  224                4.2             121

Kirsten                        915                   249               0.8               23

Sarahthenerd               202                     55             12.6             365

VickiMI                        206                     56               0.2                 6

Soph                           278                     76               5.9             170

Kendra                          92                     25              21               595

Marcie                          371                  101                -                  -

Kate Claire                   1535                 418               0.5               15

Linde                            235                    64                2.2              74


Hugs

Pamela
Title: Re: Comparison of our HRT Blood Test Results after 9 or 10 Months
Post by: pamelatransuk on February 16, 2019, 08:54:49 AM
Thank you Bibi for your 5 Months BT results.


Herewith latest 6/7 months table:

                                 HRT Blood Test Results after 6 or 7 Months


                               E (Intnl)            E (US)       T (Intnl)       T (US)

Pamela                      1662                   453             2.4              69

Sarah                         349                    95               0.4              12

Devlyn                        720                   196               1.8              53

Deborah                     430                   117               4.2            120

Kathy                         303                     83              0.5               14

Tonya                         268                    73                1.1              32

Katie                          254                     69               0.2                5.8

Kaitylynn                    162                     44               1.0               30

Allison                         826                   225             <0.1             <2.5

Charlie Nicki                213                     58               2.6              74

Sadie                        1296                   353               0.4               12

Casady                      1067                   291               3.1               90

Kirsten                       422                    115               0.4               12

Sarahthenerd              202                      55              13.8             399

Kendra                       147                      40               5                 142

Marcie                        184                      50               -                   -

Katie Ellen                  551                     150              12.5             362

Bibi                            360                      98                1.7               48


Hugs

Pamela
Title: Re: Comparison of our HRT Blood Test Results after 9 or 10 Months
Post by: pamelatransuk on February 16, 2019, 08:58:31 AM
Herewith latest 9/10 month table.

                                HRT Blood Test Results after 9 or 10 Months


                               E (Intnl)            E (US)       T (Intnl)       T (US)

Pamela                       442                  120               0.7             20

Kathy                         193                    53               3.3              95

Katie                          223                    61               0.2               5.8

Charlie Nicki                334                    91               0.4              11

Sadie                          826                   225              0.6              17

Casady                       688                   187              3.6              104

Kirsten                        736                   200              0.5              14

Kendra                        698                   190              0.6              18

Marcie                         516                   140              0.3                9

Melinda                       220                     60              0.4              12


Hugs

Pamela
Title: Re: Comparison of our HRT Blood Test Results after 9 or 10 Months
Post by: Jessica on February 16, 2019, 09:01:53 AM
My 3 month BT was
E= <50 pg/mL
T= 1197 ng/dL

3 months later
E= 101 pg/mL
T= 21.6 ng/dL

5 months later
E= 92 pg/mL
T= 72 ng/dL

6 months later (most recent)
E= 122 pg/mL
T= 21 ng/dL

Yay!
Title: Re: Comparison of our HRT Blood Test Results after 9 or 10 Months
Post by: pamelatransuk on February 16, 2019, 09:56:09 AM
Thank you Jess for your readings and I will add to the tables (on my new thread just opened) in due course.

Hugs

Pamela
Title: Re: Comparison of our HRT Blood Test Results after 9 or 10 Months
Post by: Linde on February 16, 2019, 10:28:37 AM
It looks like the readings are all over the place.  I wonder how mine will be a few weeks after my orchi?
Title: Re: Comparison of our HRT Blood Test Results after 9 or 10 Months
Post by: Katie Jade on February 19, 2019, 01:48:16 PM
Hi

My 12/13 month results are;

Serum testosterone level < 0.2 nmol/L [8.3 - 27.8]
Outside reference range - H
Serum oestradiol level 1483 pmol/L [41.0 - 159.0]
Outside reference range - Oops....

Looks like my level has risen a bit.....

Enjoy

Katie
Title: Re: Comparison of our HRT Blood Test Results after 9 or 10 Months
Post by: Dana Thompson on March 06, 2019, 11:32:17 AM
First test since starting hormones [emoji4][emoji4][emoji4].

3 months

T= 26
E= 98


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Title: Re: Comparison of our HRT Blood Test Results after 9 or 10 Months
Post by: pamelatransuk on March 07, 2019, 03:58:37 AM
Thank you Dana for your 3 Month BT results which I am copying to the latest "Comparison after 12/13 Months" thread which incorporates results 3/4, 6/7, 8/9 and 12/13 Months.

Hugs

Pamela
Title: Re: Comparison of our HRT Blood Test Results after 9 or 10 Months
Post by: JanePlain on March 23, 2019, 01:24:17 PM
Quote from: Kate.claire on January 21, 2019, 11:10:53 PM
Hi all,
New to posting, but I guess this finally drew me out.  I'm 43 and have been on EV injections only the last 3 months, and on a patch for 25 days before that.  I switched due to skin irritation and because I prefer just having to remember an injection every other Sunday.  No androgen blockers or others drugs for now,  I wanted to see how E only went before adding in Spiro... as I had low E for a male starting out (around 150).  Readings in US measurements exactly a week between injections:
3+ months:
E (418)
T (15)

My doctor and I are pretty happy with these results so far, so going to continue with E only to my 6 month mark.

Thanks for tracking this!

-Kate
Great to hear the results you got with E only.  And just want to say wow you look amazing. 
Title: Re: Comparison of our HRT Blood Test Results after 9 or 10 Months
Post by: Linde on April 09, 2019, 08:20:18 AM
My readings, taken about a month after my orchi, are:

T 5 ng/dl  (relatively low for a natal female)
E 139.9 pg/ml (normal for a natal female in her ovulation phase)

I think the orchi did it's job to eliminate T in my system!
Title: Re: Comparison of our HRT Blood Test Results after 9 or 10 Months
Post by: zirconia on April 09, 2019, 01:28:24 PM
Do initial/starting/baseline values interest anyone?
Title: Re: Comparison of our HRT Blood Test Results after 9 or 10 Months
Post by: bobbiesj on April 10, 2019, 12:58:24 PM
Hi Pamela,

My fourth month on HRT although the first three months were at an extremely low dosage to see how my body would react.

No negative effects, so, in March, my Doctor increased my dosage significantly.

I am providing blood work done in Jan (2 months on HRT)
Mid Jan Blood Work
Blood Work from prior to HRT start until Mid Jan Blood work
Estradiol - 27
Progesterone - 0.4
No Estrone sample taken
Testosterone - 277

April Blood Work ( 1 month on higher dosage)
Estrone = 99 pg/ml
Estradiol - 107
Progesterone - 1.10 ng/ml
Testosterone - 49 ng/dl

These are US stats

Thanks,
Bobbie
Title: Re: Comparison of our HRT Blood Test Results after 9 or 10 Months
Post by: Melinda@heart on April 26, 2019, 05:32:25 PM
Sorry I haven't posted more. I finally got my 1 year results. April 30th is my actual date, but I had tests on the 16th.

And here they are!(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190426/09d509e28c4cba2ccf282eede1c09414.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190426/684255b33f0fed665d4e5e6034ade78b.jpg)

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Title: Re: Comparison of our HRT Blood Test Results after 9 or 10 Months
Post by: pamelatransuk on April 27, 2019, 03:31:08 AM
Thank you Melinda for your one year BT results which I am copying to the "Comparison after 12/13 Months" thread which now incorporates all BT results after 3/4 6/7 9/10 and 12/13 months.

Hugs

Pamela