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Title: How do you find clothes that fit you?
Post by: 930310 on December 13, 2018, 01:09:46 PM
Post by: 930310 on December 13, 2018, 01:09:46 PM
Hello,
I'm still in male-mode and have never dressed in "female clothing". I am fairly tall and thin and have no idea how to find clothes that fit me without actually having to go somewhere and try things on (which I can't do due to social anxiety).
I have measured myself for my sizes but I really do get confused when looking up clothes online since there are so many different ways to give a size.
Furthermore, I have no idea how to coordinate clothing or what to wear to look more feminine since there are a few differences between male and female anatomy in general (such as shoulder with etc).
If this is posted in the wrong section, please do move it to the correct place.
My sizes are:
Length: 185,5cm (6'1")
Bust: 92cm (36")
Underbust: 80cm (31,5")
Waist: 73cm (28,7")
Hip: 96cm (37,8")
I'm still in male-mode and have never dressed in "female clothing". I am fairly tall and thin and have no idea how to find clothes that fit me without actually having to go somewhere and try things on (which I can't do due to social anxiety).
I have measured myself for my sizes but I really do get confused when looking up clothes online since there are so many different ways to give a size.
Furthermore, I have no idea how to coordinate clothing or what to wear to look more feminine since there are a few differences between male and female anatomy in general (such as shoulder with etc).
If this is posted in the wrong section, please do move it to the correct place.
My sizes are:
Length: 185,5cm (6'1")
Bust: 92cm (36")
Underbust: 80cm (31,5")
Waist: 73cm (28,7")
Hip: 96cm (37,8")
Title: Re: How do you find clothes that fit you?
Post by: Traci091176 on December 13, 2018, 01:51:09 PM
Post by: Traci091176 on December 13, 2018, 01:51:09 PM
Long Tall Sally is a good place to start.
Title: Re: How do you find clothes that fit you?
Post by: gracefulhat on December 13, 2018, 02:09:35 PM
Post by: gracefulhat on December 13, 2018, 02:09:35 PM
Quote from: 930310 on December 13, 2018, 01:09:46 PM
My sizes are:
Length: 185,5cm (6'1")
Bust: 92cm (36")
Underbust: 80cm (31,5")
Waist: 73cm (28,7")
Hip: 96cm (37,8")
We are both similar in our measurements. In women's dresses and pants you probably wear a size 6 or 8. For bra just buy 36A...or B if your using fillers. For tops I buy med and large. For shoes just go 1.5 size bigger than men's, maybe just 1. I wear 10 in men's and can wear a snug 11 in women's. Hope this helps.
Title: Re: How do you find clothes that fit you?
Post by: KathyLauren on December 13, 2018, 02:23:53 PM
Post by: KathyLauren on December 13, 2018, 02:23:53 PM
The size numbers on women's clothes are so random that there really is no substitute for trying them on. So, when ordering online, be sure to check the vendor's return policy.
I was a solid "medium" in men's clothes, 34x30 in jeans. Now, I am usually a 10 in women's clothes, but I'll try an 8 in bottoms if it looks big, and a 12 in tops if it looks small. For S-M-L sizing, I am a medium in bottoms and a large in tops.
You are taller and slimmer than me, so obviously your numbers will be different, but hopefully this gives you a reference point.
I was a solid "medium" in men's clothes, 34x30 in jeans. Now, I am usually a 10 in women's clothes, but I'll try an 8 in bottoms if it looks big, and a 12 in tops if it looks small. For S-M-L sizing, I am a medium in bottoms and a large in tops.
You are taller and slimmer than me, so obviously your numbers will be different, but hopefully this gives you a reference point.
Title: Re: How do you find clothes that fit you?
Post by: randim on December 13, 2018, 02:44:42 PM
Post by: randim on December 13, 2018, 02:44:42 PM
Give your height, you will probably need to shop online to find long sleeves and pants legs that fit you, although women not infrequently wear shortish pants to show off their shoes. If you google tall women's clothing you will find links to retailers that stock tall sizes or articles discussing where to find tall sizes. I seem to have had better luck than some ordering using the size charts. I must say I am envious of your waistline. You have quite a nice figure. I think you will have pretty good luck finding clothes that fit if they're long enough.
Title: Re: How do you find clothes that fit you?
Post by: sarahc on December 13, 2018, 03:15:23 PM
Post by: sarahc on December 13, 2018, 03:15:23 PM
If ordering online, make sure to look at the size chart. Different apparel makers have different size charts.
The three most important measurements in women's clothing are:
* Bust for tops and dresses
* Hip and Waist for bottoms - If you get different sizes for waist vs hip, choose the SMALLER size.
* Inseam for pants - note: women's pants generally fit closer in the crotch so add 1 inch vs. men's inseam
No guarantee that this will work all the time, but it will lead to the best change of success. You then either go to stores or start ordering stuff online and seeing what fits and return what doesn't fit
Given your height, you will likely need to focus your shopping on stores that have meaningful tall selections. Depending on your body type, you may need tall bottoms, tall tops, or tall everything. In the US, Long Tall Sally, Lands End, Asos, and some Gap properties (especially Athleta) have decent tall selections.
The three most important measurements in women's clothing are:
* Bust for tops and dresses
* Hip and Waist for bottoms - If you get different sizes for waist vs hip, choose the SMALLER size.
* Inseam for pants - note: women's pants generally fit closer in the crotch so add 1 inch vs. men's inseam
No guarantee that this will work all the time, but it will lead to the best change of success. You then either go to stores or start ordering stuff online and seeing what fits and return what doesn't fit
Given your height, you will likely need to focus your shopping on stores that have meaningful tall selections. Depending on your body type, you may need tall bottoms, tall tops, or tall everything. In the US, Long Tall Sally, Lands End, Asos, and some Gap properties (especially Athleta) have decent tall selections.
Title: Re: How do you find clothes that fit you?
Post by: Maid Marion on December 13, 2018, 03:59:59 PM
Post by: Maid Marion on December 13, 2018, 03:59:59 PM
I started by buying clothes on ebay from sellers who actually measured the clothes they were selling. This is one way to get actual measurements. Another way to get a handle on what fits is to buy cheap clothes from a thrift store. Typically there is some sort of refund policy, particularly if you save receipts and don't cut off the pricing tags.
I bring a tape measure when I go shopping. It doesn't lie.
I bring a tape measure when I go shopping. It doesn't lie.
Title: Re: How do you find clothes that fit you?
Post by: NatalieRene on December 13, 2018, 04:05:47 PM
Post by: NatalieRene on December 13, 2018, 04:05:47 PM
When ordering online look for the items size chart that will convert measurements to sizes. You have to check each item especially with retailers carrying multiple brands.
Title: Re: How do you find clothes that fit you?
Post by: LizK on December 13, 2018, 07:05:08 PM
Post by: LizK on December 13, 2018, 07:05:08 PM
Consistent sizing is rare thing in womens clothes...take your measurements and from that you may be able to work it out. Second hand clothing stores are good to been able to buy a number of items cheaply and play with sizes..once you know your basic size you can then by new on line hopefully things will fit
Take care
Liz
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Title: Re: How do you find clothes that fit you?
Post by: Gertrude on December 13, 2018, 08:36:49 PM
Post by: Gertrude on December 13, 2018, 08:36:49 PM
EShakti and sumissura.
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Title: Re: How do you find clothes that fit you?
Post by: GingerVicki on December 13, 2018, 08:53:22 PM
Post by: GingerVicki on December 13, 2018, 08:53:22 PM
Quote from: Gertrude on December 13, 2018, 08:36:49 PMThese links are solid gold! Straight bookmarked!
EShakti and sumissura.
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Title: Re: How do you find clothes that fit you?
Post by: 930310 on December 14, 2018, 03:14:19 AM
Post by: 930310 on December 14, 2018, 03:14:19 AM
Thank you everyone. I'll look into this further.
Title: Re: How do you find clothes that fit you?
Post by: 930310 on December 14, 2018, 12:35:58 PM
Post by: 930310 on December 14, 2018, 12:35:58 PM
Quote from: gracefulhat on December 13, 2018, 02:09:35 PMI have smaller feet (I'm about an 8,5-9) than you do but thanks for the help.
We are both similar in our measurements. In women's dresses and pants you probably wear a size 6 or 8. For bra just buy 36A...or B if your using fillers. For tops I buy med and large. For shoes just go 1.5 size bigger than men's, maybe just 1. I wear 10 in men's and can wear a snug 11 in women's. Hope this helps.
Title: Re: How do you find clothes that fit you?
Post by: Lyric on December 16, 2018, 12:21:37 PM
Post by: Lyric on December 16, 2018, 12:21:37 PM
Well, I've been into this stuff for a very long time and I can give you some valuable advice, for sure.
"I have no idea how to coordinate clothing"
...This is not a strictly transgender problem. Every girl/woman goes through learning this stuff (many never do). If you can access this website you have a world of fashion information at your fingertips. Google "fashion blog". Bookmark them and spend a few minutes a week reading what people are wearing. As unimaginative as it sounds, nobody every went wrong by emulating a celebrity's look-- and with very little effort you can do it for little money if you forget about designer labels.
"...or what to wear to look more feminine"
The best thing would be to bring some friends into the project. There's nothing better than an outside opinion. It's very hard to do these things alone. Take selfies of yourself full length and compare the images to those of women you admire, considering what improvements need to be made.
"...social anxiety"
This is something that will cripple your entire life, not just the TG stuff. As soon as possible start seeing a good therapist about this. This is something else everyone must deal with to some extent and is entirely fixable.
"I have measured myself for my sizes but I really do get confused when looking up clothes online since there are so many different ways to give a size."
Again, welcome to the club. There are no firm standards for sizes in womens clothing (most men's either, really). Sizes can even vary within a brand. If you must buy online, I suggest buying from one of the reputable dealers that offer free returns. I surveyed this recently and these online clothe dealers are all meet those specs: Asos, Macy's, Zappos, Gap, Old Navy, Banana Republic. I buy from Macy's online all the time and they have a lot of good specials.
Here's something anybody who wears clothes should do: find a tailer to do alterations. It's not as expensive as you might think and there's nothing like getting clothes custom fitted.
"I am fairly tall and thin"
You're an inch shorter than my favorite current fashion model, Karlie Kloss. Karlie was awkward and pestered in high school because of her height and now she's adored by millions. Do a Google image search of Karlie Kloss + "fashion". You could probably wear any look she can.
"I have no idea how to coordinate clothing"
...This is not a strictly transgender problem. Every girl/woman goes through learning this stuff (many never do). If you can access this website you have a world of fashion information at your fingertips. Google "fashion blog". Bookmark them and spend a few minutes a week reading what people are wearing. As unimaginative as it sounds, nobody every went wrong by emulating a celebrity's look-- and with very little effort you can do it for little money if you forget about designer labels.
"...or what to wear to look more feminine"
The best thing would be to bring some friends into the project. There's nothing better than an outside opinion. It's very hard to do these things alone. Take selfies of yourself full length and compare the images to those of women you admire, considering what improvements need to be made.
"...social anxiety"
This is something that will cripple your entire life, not just the TG stuff. As soon as possible start seeing a good therapist about this. This is something else everyone must deal with to some extent and is entirely fixable.
"I have measured myself for my sizes but I really do get confused when looking up clothes online since there are so many different ways to give a size."
Again, welcome to the club. There are no firm standards for sizes in womens clothing (most men's either, really). Sizes can even vary within a brand. If you must buy online, I suggest buying from one of the reputable dealers that offer free returns. I surveyed this recently and these online clothe dealers are all meet those specs: Asos, Macy's, Zappos, Gap, Old Navy, Banana Republic. I buy from Macy's online all the time and they have a lot of good specials.
Here's something anybody who wears clothes should do: find a tailer to do alterations. It's not as expensive as you might think and there's nothing like getting clothes custom fitted.
"I am fairly tall and thin"
You're an inch shorter than my favorite current fashion model, Karlie Kloss. Karlie was awkward and pestered in high school because of her height and now she's adored by millions. Do a Google image search of Karlie Kloss + "fashion". You could probably wear any look she can.
Title: Re: How do you find clothes that fit you?
Post by: 930310 on December 18, 2018, 08:05:20 AM
Post by: 930310 on December 18, 2018, 08:05:20 AM
Oh you....
To address what you said, I haven't got any friends, not a single one. The people that I'm the closest to are my father and my younger brothers. We see each other a couple of times a month at best. The rest of the time I am pretty much by myself.
I have been seeing therapists since I was 11, which is when I was diagnosed with autism (albeit a high functioning one). I have made much progress but after my parents divorced and I became homeless for a few months I retreated inwards and am still not over things.
I'll look up what you said about fashion but the other things about my social life are things that I've dealt with since before I hit puberty and my issues with my gender identity started.
To address what you said, I haven't got any friends, not a single one. The people that I'm the closest to are my father and my younger brothers. We see each other a couple of times a month at best. The rest of the time I am pretty much by myself.
I have been seeing therapists since I was 11, which is when I was diagnosed with autism (albeit a high functioning one). I have made much progress but after my parents divorced and I became homeless for a few months I retreated inwards and am still not over things.
I'll look up what you said about fashion but the other things about my social life are things that I've dealt with since before I hit puberty and my issues with my gender identity started.
Title: Re: How do you find clothes that fit you?
Post by: Maid Marion on December 18, 2018, 05:28:43 PM
Post by: Maid Marion on December 18, 2018, 05:28:43 PM
I have an idea that may help with social anxiety.
Take advantage of opportunities to engage in small talk and casual conversation.
The reasoning is that you need to start slow and work your way up in the art of socializing.
Take a few minutes to talk to a bored cashier in an empty store if the opportunity presents itself.
Take advantage of opportunities to engage in small talk and casual conversation.
The reasoning is that you need to start slow and work your way up in the art of socializing.
Take a few minutes to talk to a bored cashier in an empty store if the opportunity presents itself.
Title: Re: How do you find clothes that fit you?
Post by: Lyric on December 18, 2018, 09:21:55 PM
Post by: Lyric on December 18, 2018, 09:21:55 PM
Quote from: 930310 on December 18, 2018, 08:05:20 AM
To address what you said, I haven't got any friends, not a single one.
Hey, don't discount what you've got here. We may not be live and in person, but we've got potential if you give us a chance. I just clicked you for my "buddy", so that's a start.
Title: Re: How do you find clothes that fit you?
Post by: 930310 on December 20, 2018, 12:16:54 PM
Post by: 930310 on December 20, 2018, 12:16:54 PM
Just wanted to say that I bought a black skirt and a black blouse online just to try things out. They were both EU size 40, so I guess that's an US size 8. I could probably have worn a size 6 as well since they were both a little large on me.
(https://i.imgur.com/xJMg10Z.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/xJMg10Z.jpg)
Title: Re: How do you find clothes that fit you?
Post by: DawnOday on December 20, 2018, 12:35:26 PM
Post by: DawnOday on December 20, 2018, 12:35:26 PM
Don't have a clue about style? Try these. https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=style+2019+femme
https://www.venus.com At 6' 3" I find the length is generally about two inches short in the arms and length to the waist.
Long Tall Sally has clothes for tall women as does JC Penny, ASOS. Old Navy, New York and Company.
https://www.venus.com At 6' 3" I find the length is generally about two inches short in the arms and length to the waist.
Long Tall Sally has clothes for tall women as does JC Penny, ASOS. Old Navy, New York and Company.
Title: Re: How do you find clothes that fit you?
Post by: Lyric on December 20, 2018, 08:57:40 PM
Post by: Lyric on December 20, 2018, 08:57:40 PM
Quote from: 930310 on December 20, 2018, 12:16:54 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/xJMg10Z.jpg)
Looks good to me. This is pretty much what we all do with this stuff. You do a little trial and error clothes buying and start to figure out what works for you. I'm not sure all of those online retailers DawnOday mentioned are easily available in Sweden, but I'm sure there are many good ones that are.
Title: Re: How do you find clothes that fit you?
Post by: 930310 on December 21, 2018, 01:29:36 AM
Post by: 930310 on December 21, 2018, 01:29:36 AM
Yeah. First time trying on a skirt yesterday and things felt quite alright. I still think I look way too masculine in face and body but I guess make up will help a bit whenever I get the confidence to go out and get some. At least this is a start, which is way more than I've done earlier by hiding my body in oversized clothing.
Title: Re: How do you find clothes that fit you?
Post by: Maid Marion on January 28, 2019, 06:42:51 AM
Post by: Maid Marion on January 28, 2019, 06:42:51 AM
In the USA many of get our start by going to thrift stores, which is a very cheap way to get clothing.
This should be an excellent time to go, since Marie Kondo and her teachings on getting rid of clutter have resulted in a big increase in donations.
This should be an excellent time to go, since Marie Kondo and her teachings on getting rid of clutter have resulted in a big increase in donations.
Title: Re: How do you find clothes that fit you?
Post by: 930310 on January 28, 2019, 07:14:09 AM
Post by: 930310 on January 28, 2019, 07:14:09 AM
I don't live in the US and our thrift stores here are fairly expensive since part of the money goes to the church that has the organisation. The most inexpensive way is to buy from private sellers but you can't try the clothes on this way since they are spread out all over the country.