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After almost 4 years of HRT, I have reached Tanner stage 5 breast growth. I have size 42D breasts, no surgery of any sort. Natal female size nipples and areola growth, recessed to the rest of the breast curve. I'd like to go down to 38 band size after losing some weight. But all in all I am very fortunate to have this growth between 25-29 years old. :)

A lot of life has been difficult for me in the last few years, but I will take the successes and good things when I can get them. This is one of them. :)

Congrats.

I've heard that most never get past tanner 2. I never did understand the main difference between stage 2 and 3.

Here here found this in wikipedia's "Tanner Scale" dept:

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lol How we doing on the "male side"?

One is 2 and the other is a 3. 3/12 months in.

But dang a tanner 5. that is amazing

Congratulations!

Congratulations from me, too!
I think that i am between Tanner III and IV, but I can't get my pubic hair look like the pictures show!  I am max a II in that field!

I wish I'd been this lucky. I am a stage III after taking estrogen for five years, starting at the age of 20. I guess my breast development is slightly lesser due to me being thin. I've never weighed more than 74kg and am 185cm.

I took a peek today when I got out of the shower. Both look like their gonna be solid 3s shortly.

Quote from: 930310 on January 24, 2019, 01:05:07 AM
I wish I'd been this lucky. I am a stage III after taking estrogen for five years, starting at the age of 20. I guess my breast development is slightly lesser due to me being thin. I've never weighed more than 74kg and am 185cm.

that sounds like a great height to weight ratio.

Solid 3 for me

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Hello Findingreason

Congratulations on achieving Tanner Stage 5; I am so happy for you!

I am clearly Stage 3.

Hugs

Pamela

Judging from that chart, I'd be a III, possibly IV.  I haven't started hormones yet, but I am on dutasteride, which can cause breast growth.  I can't say for certain, but they do seem to be larger than a couple of years ago.  I nicely fill a 38A bra.

I am just hoping that my development does not slow down. stage 3 in almost 4 months. too good to be true

Here is are some more specific definitions of the differences between the stages, that the picture above does not really address:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK138588/

https://www.cps.ca/uploads/tools/2016-GHR-Page-3.pdf

https://www.medschool.lsuhsc.edu/medical_education/undergraduate/spm/SPM_100/documents/tannerstagescard.pdf

Quote from: Myranda on January 24, 2019, 07:01:48 AM
Here is are some more specific definitions of the differences between the stages, that the picture above does not really address:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK138588/

https://www.cps.ca/uploads/tools/2016-GHR-Page-3.pdf

https://www.medschool.lsuhsc.edu/medical_education/undergraduate/spm/SPM_100/documents/tannerstagescard.pdf

This is what I needed. i have a great start in a stage 2. :)

@ ~10 months I'm a solid three .. and I do mean solid.

I have rounding on the top of my breasts and the charts/links do not address that. I wonder if the upper rounding is caused by buds.

Isn't the main difference between 2 and 3 outer rounding? I do show obvious outer rounding toward the armpit. The only thing I really know is that they do not hide well.

I am close to a 4 in the breast area and almost back to a 1 for the pubic hair... OK, that is not fair since I am getting all the hair removed for surgery.

Quote from: sarah1972 on January 24, 2019, 09:57:00 AM
I am close to a 4 in the breast area and almost back to a 1 for the pubic hair... OK, that is not fair since I am getting all the hair removed for surgery.

@sarah1972
Dear Sarah:
I am very happy to hear about your breast area development, I am glad that you are getting "close" to a stage 4, congratulations for sure....   so sorry about your "nether region" hair.... now it is getting removed entirely, but do know that many women are opting for the completely shaven look down there so you may be right in style.

I was at almost a stage 4 when I went full time over 2 years ago and nowI am just about in between a stage 4 and stage 5....   some days are "fuller" than others.   
The good news about being a stage 4 or stage 5 is that cleavage will start looking right, and bras and tops designed for "women's" sizes will start fitting better and looking better..

Thank you for sharing and I am wishing you well as you prepare for your long awaited surgery.
Hugs and well wishes,
Danielle

Either works for me but...

https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/6900216/throw-away-your-razors-ladies-apparently-the-full-bush-is-making-a-comeback/

i am not sure if this is just a hairy situation that will pass or what.

Quotei am not sure if this is just a hairy situation that will pass or what.

Hopefully it will pass.  Like armpit hair, I don't want to see it on anyone.  I had laser to remove mine years ago.

Quote from: AnneK on January 24, 2019, 12:40:44 PM

Quote from: GingerVicki on January 24, 2019, 11:19:05 AM... i am not sure if this is just a hairy situation that will pass or what ...

Hopefully it will pass.  Like armpit hair, I don't want to see it on anyone.  I had laser to remove mine years ago.

It's my single biggest creep out factor for body hair, much worse than my facial hair even. ICK!!!!! I am very anal obsessive about removing it.

Thanks, @Alaskan Danielle for your encouraging words. I have to admit I hope to make it past 4 one day. Right now it still all looks a bit odd.

I am fine and happy about the bottom hair removal. Aside from being for a good cause, it saves me all the shaving. As you stated, many women go through permanent hair removal, especially in the bikini region to have a clean look at the beach. My comment was more a chuckle. Especially for late transitioners, we would all start out at stage 5, so the pubic hair stages are really irrelevant for us.

Hugs,

Sarah

Quote from: Alaskan Danielle on January 24, 2019, 10:11:34 AM

Quote from: sarah1972 on January 24, 2019, 09:57:00 AM
I am close to a 4 in the breast area and almost back to a 1 for the pubic hair... OK, that is not fair since I am getting all the hair removed for surgery.

@sarah1972
Dear Sarah:
I am very happy to hear about your breast area development, I am glad that you are getting "close" to a stage 4, congratulations for sure....   so sorry about your "nether region" hair.... now it is getting removed entirely, but do know that many women are opting for the completely shaven look down there so you may be right in style.

I was at almost a stage 4 when I went full time over 2 years ago and nowI am just about in between a stage 4 and stage 5....   some days are "fuller" than others.   
The good news about being a stage 4 or stage 5 is that cleavage will start looking right, and bras and tops designed for "women's" sizes will start fitting better and looking better..

Thank you for sharing and I am wishing you well as you prepare for your long awaited surgery.
Hugs and well wishes,
Danielle

As a hairless by nature person, I have only very light growth of pubic hair. Nothing that grows up to the belly button, etc.  But I am still horrified to attack this area with anything sharp, or worse, even with wax stris.  How can you ladies stand the cruciating pain?
But to be honest, I am not used to any hair removal pain at all, and I have no idea how much it would hurt to get bare down there.  How would on even approach this hair removal task?  I think I would need some kind of a professional doing this for me!

This ginger will always have at least some.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deB_u-to-IE

Thank you everyone for your congrats. :) It means a lot, and I wish all of us the best in our journies here.

Quote from: findingreason on January 23, 2019, 03:34:29 PM
After almost 4 years of HRT, I have reached Tanner stage 5 breast growth. I have size 42D breasts, no surgery of any sort

You're very lucky and that's great. Kudos.

I couldn't help but do this but I've been on HRT for 47 years since I was 17 and have reached the previously undocumented Tanner stage 6! Aren't I lucky! Ha! :)

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Quote from: Lisa_K on January 26, 2019, 04:29:50 AM
You've very lucky and that's great. Kudos.

I couldn't help but do this but I've been on HRT for 47 years since I was 17 and have reached the previously undocumented Tanner sage 6! Aren't I lucky! Ha! :)

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LOL
Love the honesty.

Quote from: Lisa_K on January 26, 2019, 04:29:50 AM
You've very lucky and that's great. Kudos.

I couldn't help but do this but I've been on HRT for 47 years since I was 17 and have reached the previously undocumented Tanner sage 6! Aren't I lucky! Ha! :)

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This is pure applied bio-physics, demonstrating the effects of gravity on biological systems! 
Or simply said, the center of the earth reaches out with it's sticky fingers, to pull anything towards it!

In my last session, the numbing cream did not work. The only thing which made me get through it was the knowledge of why I am doing this. But it was tough.

Lucky me, I am not a hairy person either, so I only need a few hours, then I am done.

Quote from: Dietlind on January 24, 2019, 04:08:49 PM
As a hairless by nature person, I have only very light growth of pubic hair. Nothing that grows up to the belly button, etc.  But I am still horrified to attack this area with anything sharp, or worse, even with wax stris.  How can you ladies stand the cruciating pain?
But to be honest, I am not used to any hair removal pain at all, and I have no idea how much it would hurt to get bare down there.  How would on even approach this hair removal task?  I think I would need some kind of a professional doing this for me!

Quote from: Lisa_K on January 26, 2019, 04:29:50 AM
You're very lucky and that's great. Kudos.

I couldn't help but do this but I've been on HRT for 47 years since I was 17 and have reached the previously undocumented Tanner stage 6! Aren't I lucky! Ha! :)

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dooberville.com%2FPhotos%2FTanner6.jpg&hash=93e4e39eab233d912ef7226ab2a39a0405f8c16c)

That is truly funny. Starting at age 54, I hope to live long enough to get to stage 6.

I'd say I'm currently at early stage 3, about a month shy of 2 years HRT.



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Do you think that breast development has something to do with age?

I feel like adult people develop more breasts (sometimes) than young people, my mom has big breasts, and I have 1 year and 1 month with estrogen and according to that scale, I have only reached tanner 3. .. puberty takes years and the chest changes according to weight and height ...

My height 5'2 and weight 114lb (according to my endocrinologist I have to climb at least 121lb to not develop as a sick woman, so were his words, but I want to weigh 136lb to have a better breast development, and then lose weight again , at my normal weight 105lb.

Sorry if  my english is so bad, it is because i'm chilean and my native language is spanish lol XD

Quote from: Dietlind on January 26, 2019, 06:58:34 AM
Or simply said, the center of the earth reaches out with it's sticky fingers, to pull anything towards it!

I have an even more simplified way of saying it... gravity sucks!  :laugh:

Quote from: sarah1972 on January 26, 2019, 12:13:46 PM
In my last session, the numbing cream did not work. The only thing which made me get through it was the knowledge of why I am doing this. But it was tough.

Lucky me, I am not a hairy person either, so I only need a few hours, then I am done.

I don't even know if I could stand a few hours of it.  I might need full anesthesia for this!  I wonder how much of i is required for a vulvoplasty  with minimum depth only?

Quote from: Dietlind on January 26, 2019, 05:43:25 PM
I don't even know if I could stand a few hours of it.  I might need full anesthesia for this!  I wonder how much of i is required for a vulvoplasty  with minimum depth only?

My best guess is less than what I do. It also depends on the surgeon, some remove hair follicles during surgery. My surgeon said hair removal is optional. I had already started and of course "the more the merrier". Makes it easier for her during surgery and reduces chances of unwanted hair growth.

There are a few places which offer hair removal under full anesthesia... I think there is one in Texas.

Quote from: sarah1972 on January 27, 2019, 08:41:15 AM
My best guess is less than what I do. It also depends on the surgeon, some remove hair follicles during surgery. My surgeon said hair removal is optional. I had already started and of course "the more the merrier". Makes it easier for her during surgery and reduces chances of unwanted hair growth.

There are a few places which offer hair removal under full anesthesia... I think there is one in Texas.

Thanks, but Texas does not do any good, because I live as far south in Florida as possible (Ladies and Gentlemen, our next stop are the Everglades)

I go to E3000 in the Dallas area. They do not offer full anesthesia but the do use lidocaine injections which help quite a bit. The injections sting quite a bit but the electrolysis is not felt at all. Many folks travel from quite far for their services, I come down from Colorado, so Florida is not a show stopper for a clearing every six to eight weeks.

Clearing the groin area is not often required for partial or cosmetic GCS as there is no vaginal canal to make free of hair. I am choosing the hair removal for personal preferences.

Tia Anne

Quote from: Anne Blake on January 27, 2019, 04:41:55 PM
I go to E3000 in the Dallas area. They do not offer full anesthesia but the do use lidocaine injections which help quite a bit. The injections sting quite a bit but the electrolysis is not felt at all. Many folks travel from quite far for their services, I come down from Colorado, so Florida is not a show stopper for a clearing every six to eight weeks.

Clearing the groin area is not often required for partial or cosmetic GCS as there is no vaginal canal to make free of hair. I am choosing the hair removal for personal preferences.

Tia Anne

Thanks.  I have to see what I would need for the limited depth surgery.  I was never really a fan of the hairless look, and would not do it if I don't have to.

You ladies seem to be the master travelers anyway.  I have to travel in a way that allows me to take my pretty big dog along, which means it has to be done with the motorhome.  It would take about 3 days to go to Dallas, a long trip for a few hours of hair removal!