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Title: Did I pass when I was in France?
Post by: 930310 on January 28, 2019, 02:08:36 PM
Post by: 930310 on January 28, 2019, 02:08:36 PM
So I went to France over the weekend and I put on makeup every day and ventured outside in Paris. I didn't wear any female clothes either but people referred to me as "mademoiselle" or "madame" whenever I interacted with them. I speak enough French to get around and understood what people said when we talked so I guess that my voice passed without me even trying. Still, I fear that most people read me as male because of my height, voice, clothes and face. The ones who referred to me with female pronouns probably did it because they thought I was trans...
Serious replies please.
Here are a few pictures of me when I was in France.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F5GkCxjR.jpg&hash=feb6c63d4cc7602a150bda6422a16153668f4abc)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FNYgtOIu.jpg&hash=8d67182f8c95797594b127ba8a31686554221b0a)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FJjQ9WeI.jpg&hash=418ad38216ca38fc6c0d0ef520480cb5b55b6173)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FXmsjjuw.jpg&hash=c98227f91f51cef8b1670a151ea34a04a56d9a3b)
Serious replies please.
Here are a few pictures of me when I was in France.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F5GkCxjR.jpg&hash=feb6c63d4cc7602a150bda6422a16153668f4abc)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FNYgtOIu.jpg&hash=8d67182f8c95797594b127ba8a31686554221b0a)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FJjQ9WeI.jpg&hash=418ad38216ca38fc6c0d0ef520480cb5b55b6173)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FXmsjjuw.jpg&hash=c98227f91f51cef8b1670a151ea34a04a56d9a3b)
Title: Re: Did I pass when I was in France?
Post by: Jenny1969 on January 28, 2019, 02:15:12 PM
Post by: Jenny1969 on January 28, 2019, 02:15:12 PM
I think you look great!!! Looking good. Keep it up. How was Paris? Still dirty? Every time we went to Paris we found it dirty and the city workers went on strike every 4 hours
Title: Re: Did I pass when I was in France?
Post by: GingerVicki on January 28, 2019, 02:15:33 PM
Post by: GingerVicki on January 28, 2019, 02:15:33 PM
i think so
Title: Re: Did I pass when I was in France?
Post by: Northern Star Girl on January 28, 2019, 02:16:44 PM
Post by: Northern Star Girl on January 28, 2019, 02:16:44 PM
Quote from: 930310 on January 28, 2019, 02:08:36 PM@930310
So I went to France over the weekend and I put on makeup every day and ventured outside in Paris. I didn't wear any female clothes either but people referred to me as "mademoiselle" or "madame" whenever I interacted with them. I speak enough French to get around and understood what people said when we talked so I guess that my voice passed without me even trying. Still, I fear that most people read me as male because of my height, voice, clothes and face. The ones who referred to me with female pronouns probably did it because they thought I was trans...
Serious replies please.
Here are a few pictures of me when I was in France.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F5GkCxjR.jpg&hash=feb6c63d4cc7602a150bda6422a16153668f4abc)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FNYgtOIu.jpg&hash=8d67182f8c95797594b127ba8a31686554221b0a)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FJjQ9WeI.jpg&hash=418ad38216ca38fc6c0d0ef520480cb5b55b6173)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FXmsjjuw.jpg&hash=c98227f91f51cef8b1670a151ea34a04a56d9a3b)
Well, it sure looks to me like that you convincingly passes from viewing your posted photos. Your hair and appearance are definitely female....
That is so good that your voice passed without even trying, that can be a problematic feat for many transitioners even with voice therapy.
Thank you for sharing and posting.
Hugs,
Danielle
Title: Re: Did I pass when I was in France?
Post by: ChrissyRyan on January 28, 2019, 02:18:33 PM
Post by: ChrissyRyan on January 28, 2019, 02:18:33 PM
Quote from: 930310 on January 28, 2019, 02:08:36 PM
So I went to France over the weekend and I put on makeup every day and ventured outside in Paris. I didn't wear any female clothes either but people referred to me as "mademoiselle" or "madame" whenever I interacted with them. I speak enough French to get around and understood what people said when we talked so I guess that my voice passed without me even trying. Still, I fear that most people read me as male because of my height, voice, clothes and face. The ones who referred to me with female pronouns probably did it because they thought I was trans...
Serious replies please.
Here are a few pictures of me when I was in France.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F5GkCxjR.jpg&hash=feb6c63d4cc7602a150bda6422a16153668f4abc)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FNYgtOIu.jpg&hash=8d67182f8c95797594b127ba8a31686554221b0a)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FJjQ9WeI.jpg&hash=418ad38216ca38fc6c0d0ef520480cb5b55b6173)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FXmsjjuw.jpg&hash=c98227f91f51cef8b1670a151ea34a04a56d9a3b)
Yes you did! Bravo! Nicely done! :)
Chrissy
Title: Re: Did I pass when I was in France?
Post by: SarahWithin on January 28, 2019, 02:23:21 PM
Post by: SarahWithin on January 28, 2019, 02:23:21 PM
Quote from: 930310 on January 28, 2019, 02:08:36 PMLovely! How could you not pass?
So I went to France over the weekend and I put on makeup every day and ventured outside in Paris. I didn't wear any female clothes either but people referred to me as "mademoiselle" or "madame" whenever I interacted with them. I speak enough French to get around and understood what people said when we talked so I guess that my voice passed without me even trying. Still, I fear that most people read me as male because of my height, voice, clothes and face. The ones who referred to me with female pronouns probably did it because they thought I was trans...
Serious replies please.
Here are a few pictures of me when I was in France.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F5GkCxjR.jpg&hash=feb6c63d4cc7602a150bda6422a16153668f4abc)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FNYgtOIu.jpg&hash=8d67182f8c95797594b127ba8a31686554221b0a)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FJjQ9WeI.jpg&hash=418ad38216ca38fc6c0d0ef520480cb5b55b6173)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FXmsjjuw.jpg&hash=c98227f91f51cef8b1670a151ea34a04a56d9a3b)
Hugs,
Sarah From Chitown
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Title: Re: Did I pass when I was in France?
Post by: 930310 on January 28, 2019, 02:40:58 PM
Post by: 930310 on January 28, 2019, 02:40:58 PM
The general fears I have about my face are my brow ridge, eyes and scars which I consider quite masculine.
Title: Re: Did I pass when I was in France?
Post by: GingerVicki on January 28, 2019, 02:55:06 PM
Post by: GingerVicki on January 28, 2019, 02:55:06 PM
Quote from: 930310 on January 28, 2019, 02:40:58 PM
The general fears I have about my face are my brow ridge, eyes and scars which I consider quite masculine.
You passed. Contrary to many peoples opinion some women, more than people think, have brow ridges and anyone can have scars. Scars are not a male thing. Scars are just part of your life story.
Title: Re: Did I pass when I was in France?
Post by: KathyLauren on January 28, 2019, 07:08:09 PM
Post by: KathyLauren on January 28, 2019, 07:08:09 PM
Quote from: 930310 on January 28, 2019, 02:40:58 PMI think that in your photos you look very pretty and feminine. Your brow ridges are not prominent, and I didn't even notice them until you mentioned them. Your eyes do not pass as male; I see them as 100% feminine. Anyone can have scars, male or female.
The general fears I have about my face are my brow ridge, eyes and scars which I consider quite masculine.
The only thing I can't judge is your voice. You say your voice passed, so I would think that you did indeed pass.
Title: Re: Did I pass when I was in France?
Post by: 930310 on January 29, 2019, 03:28:24 AM
Post by: 930310 on January 29, 2019, 03:28:24 AM
I've been doing voice training for about three weeks now but I feel that the high pitched voice that I can produce is too thin so I am sticking to my regular voice which is a bit nasal. The reason I asked here was because I was in France with my father and he kept correcting the people that I was male and ruined a lot of my enjoyment there...
Title: Re: Did I pass when I was in France?
Post by: pamelamoore2706 on February 01, 2019, 02:17:08 AM
Post by: pamelamoore2706 on February 01, 2019, 02:17:08 AM
Quote from: 930310 on January 28, 2019, 02:08:36 PMYou certainly did pass! 100%!
So I went to France over the weekend and I put on makeup every day and ventured outside in Paris. I didn't wear any female clothes either but people referred to me as "mademoiselle" or "madame" whenever I interacted with them. I speak enough French to get around and understood what people said when we talked so I guess that my voice passed without me even trying. Still, I fear that most people read me as male because of my height, voice, clothes and face. The ones who referred to me with female pronouns probably did it because they thought I was trans...
Serious replies please.
Here are a few pictures of me when I was in France.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F5GkCxjR.jpg&hash=feb6c63d4cc7602a150bda6422a16153668f4abc)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FNYgtOIu.jpg&hash=8d67182f8c95797594b127ba8a31686554221b0a)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FJjQ9WeI.jpg&hash=418ad38216ca38fc6c0d0ef520480cb5b55b6173)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FXmsjjuw.jpg&hash=c98227f91f51cef8b1670a151ea34a04a56d9a3b)
Go you!
Xx
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Title: Re: Did I pass when I was in France?
Post by: Elizabeth_Swan on February 02, 2019, 02:23:16 AM
Post by: Elizabeth_Swan on February 02, 2019, 02:23:16 AM
I would say you definately passed
Title: Re: Did I pass when I was in France?
Post by: 930310 on February 02, 2019, 02:24:49 AM
Post by: 930310 on February 02, 2019, 02:24:49 AM
Thanks all for the encouragement!
Title: Re: Did I pass when I was in France?
Post by: Margrit on March 20, 2019, 03:34:29 PM
Post by: Margrit on March 20, 2019, 03:34:29 PM
:) Great, How could you not pass?
Title: Re: Did I pass when I was in France?
Post by: Inspectoral on May 07, 2019, 12:27:49 AM
Post by: Inspectoral on May 07, 2019, 12:27:49 AM
You absolutely passed, without a doubt or a second glance. I'm happy for you!
Title: Re: Did I pass when I was in France?
Post by: Dani on May 08, 2019, 08:01:01 AM
Post by: Dani on May 08, 2019, 08:01:01 AM
Well, you certainly appear female to me.
However, I noticed that your profile listed your preferred gender as "Q".
Do you mean queer or questioning?
Many young people have an androgynous appearance based on societal expectations. We often do not grow into our extreme masculine or feminine appearance until much later in life. Since you are young, thin and have very long hair these are typical female expectations. Also, keep in mind that your winter coat has hidden most of your clothing that defines male or female dress.
How you chose do do with your life and how you want to live it is something all young people need to do.
I am a late transitioner and I am now comfortable for the first time in my life. I am also dealing with the consequences of try to fit in with my assigned gender from birth. I wish I had transitioned much earlier.
However, I noticed that your profile listed your preferred gender as "Q".
Do you mean queer or questioning?
Many young people have an androgynous appearance based on societal expectations. We often do not grow into our extreme masculine or feminine appearance until much later in life. Since you are young, thin and have very long hair these are typical female expectations. Also, keep in mind that your winter coat has hidden most of your clothing that defines male or female dress.
How you chose do do with your life and how you want to live it is something all young people need to do.
I am a late transitioner and I am now comfortable for the first time in my life. I am also dealing with the consequences of try to fit in with my assigned gender from birth. I wish I had transitioned much earlier.
Title: Re: Did I pass when I was in France?
Post by: Charlie Nicki on May 08, 2019, 09:34:06 AM
Post by: Charlie Nicki on May 08, 2019, 09:34:06 AM
You look 100% female in those pictures :).
Title: Re: Did I pass when I was in France?
Post by: Ray123 on May 13, 2019, 12:19:45 AM
Post by: Ray123 on May 13, 2019, 12:19:45 AM
You look great.
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