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Title: Transgender People in Florida Face Having Their Driver's Licenses Revoked
Post by: Jessica_Rose on January 30, 2024, 08:36:57 AM
Transgender People in Florida Face Having Their Driver's Licenses Revoked

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/transgender-people-in-florida-face-having-their-driver-s-licenses-revoked/ar-BB1htJmZ?cvid=c7317b0c9c2f4ad6a56a04b410eb1620&ei=13

Story by Khaleda Rahman (30 Jan 2024)

Transgender people in Florida could have their driver's licenses revoked or face prosecution if they try to change their gender markers, according to a memo shared on social media.

Robert Kynoch, the deputy executive director of the Florida Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles, issued a memo dated January 26 that said "establishing gender on a newly issued Florida Driver License is based on the supporting documents provided with an application."

Kynoch also wrote that the term "gender" does not refer "to a person's internal sense of his or her gender role or identification, but has historically and commonly been understood as a synonym for 'sex,' which is determined by innate and immutable biological and genetic characteristics."

He added that: "Permitting an individual to alter his or her license to reflect an internal sense of gender role or identity, which is neither immutable nor objectively verifiable, undermines the purpose of an identification record and can frustrate the state's ability to enforce its laws."

Alejandra Caraballo, a civil rights attorney and clinical instructor at the Harvard Law School's Cyberlaw Clinic who shared the memo on X, wrote: "Any trans person who has had [their license] changed is potentially subject to suspension."
Title: Re: Transgender People in Florida Face Having Their Driver's Licenses Revoked
Post by: D'Amalie on January 30, 2024, 04:45:20 PM
Quote from: Jessica_Rose on January 30, 2024, 08:36:57 AMTransgender People in Florida Face Having Their Driver's Licenses Revoked

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/transgender-people-in-florida-face-having-their-driver-s-licenses-revoked/ar-BB1htJmZ?cvid=c7317b0c9c2f4ad6a56a04b410eb1620&ei=13

He added that: "Permitting an individual to alter his or her license to reflect an internal sense of gender role or identity, which is neither immutable nor objectively verifiable, undermines the purpose of an identification record and can frustrate the state's ability to enforce its laws."


This is what is driving all of the political hubhub over trans rights.  They want to put us in a category so laws can be enforced.  AND then they can identify who they want to kill off.  Just like gun rights. 
Title: Re: Transgender People in Florida Face Having Their Driver's Licenses Revoked
Post by: D'Amalie on January 30, 2024, 05:01:57 PM
Quote from: D'Amalie on January 30, 2024, 04:45:20 PMThis is what is driving all of the political hubhub over trans rights.  They want to put us in a category so laws can be enforced.  AND then they can identify who they want to kill off.  Just like gun rights.

I hope I'm not afoul of "The Foul Language and Respectful Communication Policy".  Sorry for the strong emotion.
Title: Re: Transgender People in Florida Face Having Their Driver's Licenses Revoked
Post by: Devlyn on January 31, 2024, 07:27:28 AM
My wife just spent a week in Miami on business. While she didn't have any problems, we just hate the idea that she contributed to the state's economy.
Title: Re: Transgender People in Florida Face Having Their Driver's Licenses Revoked
Post by: ChrissyRyan on January 31, 2024, 07:29:09 AM
Quote from: Jessica_Rose on January 30, 2024, 08:36:57 AMTransgender People in Florida Face Having Their Driver's Licenses Revoked

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/transgender-people-in-florida-face-having-their-driver-s-licenses-revoked/ar-BB1htJmZ?cvid=c7317b0c9c2f4ad6a56a04b410eb1620&ei=13

Story by Khaleda Rahman (30 Jan 2024)

Transgender people in Florida could have their driver's licenses revoked or face prosecution if they try to change their gender markers, according to a memo shared on social media.

Robert Kynoch, the deputy executive director of the Florida Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles, issued a memo dated January 26 that said "establishing gender on a newly issued Florida Driver License is based on the supporting documents provided with an application."

Kynoch also wrote that the term "gender" does not refer "to a person's internal sense of his or her gender role or identification, but has historically and commonly been understood as a synonym for 'sex,' which is determined by innate and immutable biological and genetic characteristics."

He added that: "Permitting an individual to alter his or her license to reflect an internal sense of gender role or identity, which is neither immutable nor objectively verifiable, undermines the purpose of an identification record and can frustrate the state's ability to enforce its laws."

Alejandra Caraballo, a civil rights attorney and clinical instructor at the Harvard Law School's Cyberlaw Clinic who shared the memo on X, wrote: "Any trans person who has had [their license] changed is potentially subject to suspension."



This action is silly. 

Chrissy
Title: Re: Transgender People in Florida Face Having Their Driver's Licenses Revoked
Post by: Faith on February 01, 2024, 12:00:13 PM
Everything in FL is scary right now. I don't dare stand up for myself for fear of being arrested, even if I was not in the wrong. Going to jail, even short-term, is not on my list of things to contend with.  Trust me when I say, they can and will arrest me just for being me.

I have my SS and FL DL both changed, also my NYS Birth Cert.  Hopefully the birth cert is enough to prevent them from invalidating my license, whether immediately or at renewal time.
Title: Re: Transgender People in Florida Face Having Their Driver's Licenses Revoked
Post by: Donica on February 01, 2024, 02:05:39 PM
This is shocking! Clearly adding to the growing list of reason to vote these bigots out of office.