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Title: Is No Op (no gender conforming surgery) a viable option for you?
Post by: ChrissyRyan on May 14, 2024, 12:05:32 AM
Post by: ChrissyRyan on May 14, 2024, 12:05:32 AM
Is No Op (no gender conforming surgery) a viable option for you?
Chrissy
Chrissy
Title: Re: Is No Op (no gender conforming surgery) a viable option for you?
Post by: Jessica_K on May 14, 2024, 02:35:21 AM
Post by: Jessica_K on May 14, 2024, 02:35:21 AM
Absolutely resounding NO, NO, NO.
The older I get the more I want the surgery and closer and closer I get to not getting it. And the harder it gets to live without it.....
Jessica
The older I get the more I want the surgery and closer and closer I get to not getting it. And the harder it gets to live without it.....
Jessica
Title: Re: Is No Op (no gender conforming surgery) a viable option for you?
Post by: Lori Dee on May 14, 2024, 07:28:32 AM
Post by: Lori Dee on May 14, 2024, 07:28:32 AM
Quote from: Jessica_K on May 14, 2024, 02:35:21 AMAbsolutely resounding NO, NO, NO.
The older I get the more I want the surgery and closer and closer I get to not getting it. And the harder it gets to live without it.....
Jessica
THIS. Exactly.
Title: Re: Is No Op (no gender conforming surgery) a viable option for you?
Post by: Faith on May 14, 2024, 07:48:37 AM
Post by: Faith on May 14, 2024, 07:48:37 AM
My answer is No! My reality is, yes :( I am stuck in limbo awaiting whether I proceed or give up .. all to accommodate someone else's opinion of what I need.
Title: Re: Is No Op (no gender conforming surgery) a viable option for you?
Post by: ChrissyRyan on May 25, 2024, 06:31:50 AM
Post by: ChrissyRyan on May 25, 2024, 06:31:50 AM
Had another discussion with my sweetie at her house last night about GCS. Again she prefers for me to retain the original factory equipment. They are useful and can help provide some delights but I did explain from my heart that having a female body like hers would be comforting.
Have a nice weekend everyone.
Chrissy
Have a nice weekend everyone.
Chrissy
Title: Re: Is No Op (no gender conforming surgery) a viable option for you?
Post by: Maid Marion on May 25, 2024, 12:31:13 PM
Post by: Maid Marion on May 25, 2024, 12:31:13 PM
Yes, especially if I can find a fully accepting partner.
Title: Re: Is No Op (no gender conforming surgery) a viable option for you?
Post by: Gina P on May 26, 2024, 01:15:24 PM
Post by: Gina P on May 26, 2024, 01:15:24 PM
For 'ME' the answer was always no! If I was to transition I would go all the way. Boobs, Vagina, the works. Keep in mind everyone is different.
Title: Re: Is No Op (no gender conforming surgery) a viable option for you?
Post by: imallie on May 27, 2024, 12:47:40 AM
Post by: imallie on May 27, 2024, 12:47:40 AM
When this was all in my head for decades, the answer was a black and white emphatic "No"!
But since everything entered reality I'd say it's still "no" ... and that all three procedures seem to be on the horizon... but I'm also open-minded enough to know tomorrow is another day...
But since everything entered reality I'd say it's still "no" ... and that all three procedures seem to be on the horizon... but I'm also open-minded enough to know tomorrow is another day...
Title: Re: Is No Op (no gender conforming surgery) a viable option for you?
Post by: Sarah B on May 27, 2024, 03:50:03 AM
Post by: Sarah B on May 27, 2024, 03:50:03 AM
Hi Everyone
Unfortunately, I cannot really answer this question from my perspective, given the present day, time and circumstances.
However, if I knew then what I know now, before I changed my life around or before my surgery, that I was female, or I did not know.
Then my answer would be an absolute emphatic resounding 'NO'. No ifs, ands, or buts about it.
Love and Hugs
Sarah B
Official Greeter
Unfortunately, I cannot really answer this question from my perspective, given the present day, time and circumstances.
However, if I knew then what I know now, before I changed my life around or before my surgery, that I was female, or I did not know.
Then my answer would be an absolute emphatic resounding 'NO'. No ifs, ands, or buts about it.
Love and Hugs
Sarah B
Official Greeter
Title: Re: Is No Op (no gender conforming surgery) a viable option for you?
Post by: ChrissyRyan on May 27, 2024, 08:34:43 AM
Post by: ChrissyRyan on May 27, 2024, 08:34:43 AM
Thank you ladies for sharing out.
Perhaps you wish to sound out on this matter?
Chrissy
Perhaps you wish to sound out on this matter?
Chrissy
Title: Re: Is No Op (no gender conforming surgery) a viable option for you?
Post by: coral on May 27, 2024, 10:56:21 AM
Post by: coral on May 27, 2024, 10:56:21 AM
Much the same as Faith said, desire no, but reality yes. No Op mostly due to advanced age, and multiple medical issues. Relatively healthy for my age, will be 77 in couple months. So can not take a chance on any major elective surgeries. Nearly 5 years on HRT, and seeing fair results.
Best to all!
Coral
Best to all!
Coral
Title: Re: Is No Op (no gender conforming surgery) a viable option for you?
Post by: ChrissyRyan on May 27, 2024, 12:16:10 PM
Post by: ChrissyRyan on May 27, 2024, 12:16:10 PM
Quote from: coral on May 27, 2024, 10:56:21 AMMuch the same as Faith said, desire no, but reality yes. No Op mostly due to advanced age, and multiple medical issues. Relatively healthy for my age, will be 77 in couple months. So can not take a chance on any major elective surgeries. Nearly 5 years on HRT, and seeing fair results.
Best to all!
Coral
Is there an age that this surgery is unwise to do if in good health?
Chrissy
Title: Re: Is No Op (no gender conforming surgery) a viable option for you?
Post by: Nadine Spirit on May 27, 2024, 02:04:40 PM
Post by: Nadine Spirit on May 27, 2024, 02:04:40 PM
I was sure that I would never have any surgery, but I changed my mind.
Title: Re: Is No Op (no gender conforming surgery) a viable option for you?
Post by: Lori Dee on May 27, 2024, 02:37:18 PM
Post by: Lori Dee on May 27, 2024, 02:37:18 PM
Quote from: ChrissyRyan on May 27, 2024, 12:16:10 PMIs there an age that this surgery is unwise to do if in good health?
Chrissy
My doctors have said that age is not a barrier to surgery. If in good health, all is good. However, as we age we develop other issues that can be a barrier. It is up to the surgeon to decide if one is fit enough.
Title: Re: Is No Op (no gender conforming surgery) a viable option for you?
Post by: ChrissyRyan on May 28, 2024, 10:50:21 AM
Post by: ChrissyRyan on May 28, 2024, 10:50:21 AM
Quote from: LoriDee on May 27, 2024, 02:37:18 PMMy doctors have said that age is not a barrier to surgery. If in good health, all is good. However, as we age we develop other issues that can be a barrier. It is up to the surgeon to decide if one is fit enough.
That is encouraging.
Chrissy
Title: Re: Is No Op (no gender conforming surgery) a viable option for you?
Post by: ChrissyRyan on May 28, 2024, 10:52:40 AM
Post by: ChrissyRyan on May 28, 2024, 10:52:40 AM
I had an early morning therapist session before work started today to discuss some issues with my transition.
Chrissy
Chrissy
Title: Re: Is No Op (no gender conforming surgery) a viable option for you?
Post by: coral on May 28, 2024, 10:58:47 AM
Post by: coral on May 28, 2024, 10:58:47 AM
LoriDee,
Exactly! Age and chronic medical issues are my personal deciding factors. While not my preferred choice, I have accepted this, at least for now. Thanks for your understanding and input.
Coral
Exactly! Age and chronic medical issues are my personal deciding factors. While not my preferred choice, I have accepted this, at least for now. Thanks for your understanding and input.
Coral
Title: Re: Is No Op (no gender conforming surgery) a viable option for you?
Post by: Robbyv213 on June 07, 2024, 06:09:52 PM
Post by: Robbyv213 on June 07, 2024, 06:09:52 PM
Like most here, I feel that as each day goes by the more I want the full transition. It is yet to be seen as to what extent I am able to transition taking into account all the things that we place higher value on over our own health ( like relationships, financial ability, etc that all play a factor into how one ultimately decides to move forward).
All I know is that as each day comes and goes my desire to become the woman I have always envisioned grows stronger and stronger. I just hope that the universe sends me a sign about when and how to move forward, and hopefully I won't be moving forward alone.
All I know is that as each day comes and goes my desire to become the woman I have always envisioned grows stronger and stronger. I just hope that the universe sends me a sign about when and how to move forward, and hopefully I won't be moving forward alone.
Title: Re: Is No Op (no gender conforming surgery) a viable option for you?
Post by: Paulie on June 08, 2024, 01:22:28 AM
Post by: Paulie on June 08, 2024, 01:22:28 AM
My answer is yes, except that I don't like how my bottom equipment makes most of my clothing look. I tried tucking and I can't seem to make that work. Also, since I wear women's jeans full time, tucking all day would not be practical.
The thought of an orchiectomy has crossed my mind, and work would probably cover it, but I'm not really ready to go there. I don't think my wife would go for it too. I have no interest in any other GCS.
Paulie.
The thought of an orchiectomy has crossed my mind, and work would probably cover it, but I'm not really ready to go there. I don't think my wife would go for it too. I have no interest in any other GCS.
Paulie.
Title: Re: Is No Op (no gender conforming surgery) a viable option for you?
Post by: Jessica_K on June 08, 2024, 01:57:44 AM
Post by: Jessica_K on June 08, 2024, 01:57:44 AM
Quote from: LoriDee on May 27, 2024, 02:37:18 PMMy doctors have said that age is not a barrier to surgery. If in good health, all is good. However, as we age we develop other issues that can be a barrier. It is up to the surgeon to decide if one is fit enough.
This my nightmare. Having to wait years more maybe 4-6 years more and already 71 my chances are running out for surgery.
I am fit now, no issues other than slight thyroid misbalance. But how will I be when 75 or 77. This is the UK for you. Trans health care is available but waiting times can decades.
Jessica xxx
Title: Re: Is No Op (no gender conforming surgery) a viable option for you?
Post by: Paulie on June 08, 2024, 02:37:41 AM
Post by: Paulie on June 08, 2024, 02:37:41 AM
Quote from: Jessica_K on June 08, 2024, 01:57:44 AMTrans health care is available but waiting times can be decades.
I'm sorry things are taking so long to get resolved and approved for you. We have a bunch of politicians here that keep pushing for Canadian and UK type health care here in the US. Idiots!
Paulie.
Title: Re: Is No Op (no gender conforming surgery) a viable option for you?
Post by: Gina P on June 08, 2024, 07:03:44 AM
Post by: Gina P on June 08, 2024, 07:03:44 AM
At 61, my doc didn't even think age is a factor. Weight/bmi could be a factor, but I fell within parameters. Having my full depth vaginoplasty on Wednesday. Insurance covers it though I have a max copay which will cost me $9500. I think op, or no op, orchi, or whatever depends on what is important to you. For me it was all or nothing. I couldn't think of myself as a woman with anything less than full depth.
Title: Re: Is No Op (no gender conforming surgery) a viable option for you?
Post by: Kay226 on June 08, 2024, 03:34:32 PM
Post by: Kay226 on June 08, 2024, 03:34:32 PM
So much of my life has passed by me living by others expectations and societal standards. I grew up and lived pleasing others as my own needs were pushed way down. I am working with my therapist about my needs and who I am. So it is hard to answer this question at this time. When I was young, I heard about sex change operations like Caroline Cossey. I dreamed of a life where I was a beautiful woman. But I lived by everyone else's terms. At this moment, I am defining what my authentic life will be. Surgeries might not be necessary. Time will tell.
Title: Re: Is No Op (no gender conforming surgery) a viable option for you?
Post by: SoupSarah on June 08, 2024, 10:48:15 PM
Post by: SoupSarah on June 08, 2024, 10:48:15 PM
Wo
As for waiting times in the UK.. for urgent care they are about as long as the USA, unfortunately there is an issue with transgender care, that is 5-6 years at the moment.. but, I did not want to wait, so I paid private for my surgery. I had it done within 3 months of getting the paperwork finalised.. Its either get the money or wait 5 years.. choice is yours.. sell your car, mortgage your house, use your pension.. it depends on how important now is. If your in the USA, you probably have a few thousand dollars pre-pay on your insurance, so even though your covered and waiting lists are about 6-12 months (some surgeons are more popular than others) its still going to cost most people a substantial out of pocket.. in the UK, 5 years to surgery from application and it is done without any cost to you, including all follow up care and lifetime support.
Idiots indeed..
Quote from: Paulie on June 08, 2024, 02:37:41 AMI'm sorry things are taking so long to get resolved and approved for you. We have a bunch of politicians here that keep pushing for Canadian and UK type health care here in the US. Idiots!Wow, Idiots?... very strong from someone who I expect has never experienced the NHS at first hand. I recently emigrated to the USA.. I have experience of both systems.. and both are deeply flawed all be it in different ways. If I had my way, I would have a free at the point of service health care anyday over the minefeild and expense that is health insurance. Who's in plan, how much copay, how much oop?.. boggles the mind and then pick the wrong hospital, or ambulance and you are levelled with a crippling invoice that the insurance won't pay.. And that is if you can even afford insurance.. as a huge amount of US citizens can not and go without any secure healthcare options, using emergency services or charity.
Paulie.
As for waiting times in the UK.. for urgent care they are about as long as the USA, unfortunately there is an issue with transgender care, that is 5-6 years at the moment.. but, I did not want to wait, so I paid private for my surgery. I had it done within 3 months of getting the paperwork finalised.. Its either get the money or wait 5 years.. choice is yours.. sell your car, mortgage your house, use your pension.. it depends on how important now is. If your in the USA, you probably have a few thousand dollars pre-pay on your insurance, so even though your covered and waiting lists are about 6-12 months (some surgeons are more popular than others) its still going to cost most people a substantial out of pocket.. in the UK, 5 years to surgery from application and it is done without any cost to you, including all follow up care and lifetime support.
Idiots indeed..
Title: Re: Is No Op (no gender conforming surgery) a viable option for you?
Post by: Clarissa Heng on August 24, 2024, 06:10:00 AM
Post by: Clarissa Heng on August 24, 2024, 06:10:00 AM
I suffer from severe hemophilia so doing the op is impossible. I do wish I can go for FFS to pass better but even that it out of the question. Even going for Lasik is not recommended.
Title: Re: Is No Op (no gender conforming surgery) a viable option for you?
Post by: Maid Marion on August 24, 2024, 06:54:09 AM
Post by: Maid Marion on August 24, 2024, 06:54:09 AM
In the USA healthcare is employer based. A very large company like Hartford Steam Boiler with 1200 engineers, inspectors, and technicians as part of its insurance operation has enough employees to offer Heath Plans from different insurance companies. Smaller companies have fewer choices.
You may want to choose where you work for based on the Health Coverage you can get.
You may want to choose where you work for based on the Health Coverage you can get.
Title: Re: Is No Op (no gender conforming surgery) a viable option for you?
Post by: Gina P on August 24, 2024, 07:06:08 AM
Post by: Gina P on August 24, 2024, 07:06:08 AM
Quote from: Clarissa Heng on August 24, 2024, 06:10:00 AMI suffer from severe hemophilia so doing the op is impossible. I do wish I can go for FFS to pass better but even that it out of the question. Even going for Lasik is not recommended.I'm so sorry to hear about the hemophilia. Life can be so unfair at times. All I can do is offer you a big HUG.
Gina
Title: Re: Is No Op (no gender conforming surgery) a viable option for you?
Post by: ChrissyRyan on September 05, 2024, 07:59:06 AM
Post by: ChrissyRyan on September 05, 2024, 07:59:06 AM
Wishing you all these best in making thoughtful decisions on staying NoOp or doing the surgeries.
Chrissy
Chrissy
Title: Re: Is No Op (no gender conforming surgery) a viable option for you?
Post by: darksou on April 17, 2025, 01:43:51 PM
Post by: darksou on April 17, 2025, 01:43:51 PM
Hard to tell. HRT helped my body become masculine enough to pass as a man. I love the changes I've got and sometimes I even consider not getting the surgeries, but I'm still working towards getting these done because I'm still dysphoric over my body.
Since I'm no longer so badly depressed I'd rather die than exist in the body I was born with, I don't feel like I'm as much in a hurry. I'd like to get top surgery done so I wouldn't use binders anymore and it'd help me live a healthier life. I'd also like to get bottom surgery to make me feel comfortable with my genitals.
However, I no longer feel like this is a life or death situation for me. I can wait until I get in a better space for these medical procedures.
Since I'm no longer so badly depressed I'd rather die than exist in the body I was born with, I don't feel like I'm as much in a hurry. I'd like to get top surgery done so I wouldn't use binders anymore and it'd help me live a healthier life. I'd also like to get bottom surgery to make me feel comfortable with my genitals.
However, I no longer feel like this is a life or death situation for me. I can wait until I get in a better space for these medical procedures.
Title: Re: Is No Op (no gender conforming surgery) a viable option for you?
Post by: Tig58072 on April 17, 2025, 07:27:17 PM
Post by: Tig58072 on April 17, 2025, 07:27:17 PM
It looks like that's how it's going to be.
Title: Re: Is No Op (no gender conforming surgery) a viable option for you?
Post by: CosmicJoke on April 18, 2025, 01:45:43 PM
Post by: CosmicJoke on April 18, 2025, 01:45:43 PM
It's starting to become more of a source of dysphoria for me. I have done these mental exercises before. The interesting thing I come up with is I would either be more comfortable with female genitals or none whatsoever.
Title: Re: Is No Op (no gender conforming surgery) a viable option for you?
Post by: Lori Dee on April 18, 2025, 02:38:04 PM
Post by: Lori Dee on April 18, 2025, 02:38:04 PM
Quote from: CosmicJoke on April 18, 2025, 01:45:43 PMIt's starting to become more of a source of dysphoria for me. I have done these mental exercises before. The interesting thing I come up with is I would either be more comfortable with female genitals or none whatsoever.
Wow. That has been my exact thinking over the past few months.