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Title: Trump admin sues school... for punishing Christians who harassed trans kid
Post by: Jessica_Rose on December 09, 2025, 05:06:40 PM
Trump admin sues school for religious discrimination for punishing Christians who harassed trans kid

https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2025/12/admin-sues-school-for-religious-discrimination-for-punishing-christians-who-harassed-trans-kid/

Greg Owen (9 Dec 2025)

The latest legal maneuver in a months-long dispute invoking competing definitions of Title IX, the federal civil rights law prohibiting sex-based discrimination, saw the Department of Justice file suit against Virginia's Loudoun County School Board, accusing the school district of discriminating against two Christian students who were suspended after objecting to a transgender student using a boys' locker room. 

"Loudoun County's decision to advance and promote gender ideology tramples on the rights of religious students who cannot embrace ideas that deny biological reality," Assistant Attorney General Harmeet Dhillon of the Justice Department's (DOJ) Civil Rights Division wrote, announcing the lawsuit.

The DOJ's lawsuit is based on actions the Loudoun County School Board took in April, after a trans athlete recorded two fellow students in a boys' locker room making disparaging comments about him.

After an investigation, the school board announced in August that the two students would be suspended for 10 days, saying they had violated its policy prohibiting "discrimination on the basis of sex, including sexual harassment and assault" in the district's educational programs and activities.

In the DOJ's telling, the two boys were suspended on the basis of "sex-based discrimination" and were made to "submit to a 'Comprehensive Student Support Plan' that further violates the boys' right to free exercise of religion at school." The DOJ said that, as Christians, the boys' "religious beliefs require them to use biologically accurate pronouns and use sex-segregated facilities."
Title: Re: Trump admin sues school... for punishing Christians who harassed trans kid
Post by: BlueJaye on December 09, 2025, 08:29:43 PM
Religious people have a right to BELIEF and PRIVATE practice. There is no legal precedent to justify the enforcement of one group's religious beliefs on another group. It is perfectly legal for me to believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster and wear a colander on my head out of reverence for my preferred deity. But if I demand that others, who do not share my faith, must live according to my beliefs and also wear colanders on their heads, I have no legal right to enforce that on others.
Title: Re: Trump admin sues school... for punishing Christians who harassed trans kid
Post by: Sarah B on December 10, 2025, 03:43:18 AM
Hi Everyone

Short answer
There is no verse in the Bible that states Christians are required to use biologically accurate pronouns or to insist on modern sex segregated bathrooms or locker rooms. These requirements do not appear in Scripture. They are contemporary applications some Christians infer from broader ideas not explicit biblical commands.

What the Bible actually says about sex and gender
Christians often cite Genesis 1:27 which states that God created humanity as male and female. Jesus repeats this idea in Matthew 19:4. These passages teach sexual differentiation but they say nothing about pronouns bathroom policies or school facilities.

Deuteronomy 22:5 is sometimes used because it forbids a woman wearing a man's clothing and a man wearing a woman's clothing. Even here the focus is on clothing within an ancient cultural setting not on spoken pronouns or the use of modern toilets.

Pronouns
Ancient Hebrew and Greek both use gendered grammar yet there is no command that people must always refer to others with pronouns that match biological sex. Modern arguments about biologically accurate pronouns build on general beliefs about creation or truthfulness. They do not come from a verse that uses this requirement. Even Christian writers who support that position acknowledge it is an ethical application not a direct biblical instruction.

Sex segregated facilities
The Bible contains rules about modesty and sexual behaviour yet it never addresses public toilets school locker rooms or similar facilities because these did not exist in biblical times. Christian arguments for sex segregated bathrooms rely on general themes about male and female marriage modesty or privacy then apply those themes to modern policies. This is interpretation not a direct command such as men must only ever use male bathrooms.

What is happening with claims that religious beliefs require these things
The DOJ description refers to what those particular students and their lawyers claim their Christian beliefs require. This is not the same as quoting the Bible. No passage states Christians must use biologically accurate pronouns and must use sex segregated facilities. That requirement is constructed from interpretation not from the text.

Different Christians who read the same Bible reach different conclusions about pronouns and facilities. If the Bible gave an explicit rule there would be no disagreement which makes clear that the claim is interpretive not literal.

Conclusion
There is no biblical text that commands the use of modern biologically defined pronouns the use of sex segregated bathrooms or disciplinary action against people who do not follow such practices. When someone claims that Scripture itself requires these exact behaviours they are presenting interpretation as if it were a direct command. That does not match what is written which leaves their argument selective and incomplete.

Best Wishes Always
Sarah B
Global Moderator
Title: Re: Trump admin sues school... for punishing Christians who harassed trans kid
Post by: Jillian-TG on December 10, 2025, 06:21:39 AM
Quote from: Sarah B on December 10, 2025, 03:43:18 AMHi Everyone

Short answer
There is no verse in the Bible that states Christians are required to use biologically accurate pronouns or to insist on modern sex segregated bathrooms or locker rooms. These requirements do not appear in Scripture. They are contemporary applications some Christians infer from broader ideas not explicit biblical commands.

What the Bible actually says about sex and gender
Christians often cite Genesis 1:27 which states that God created humanity as male and female. Jesus repeats this idea in Matthew 19:4. These passages teach sexual differentiation but they say nothing about pronouns bathroom policies or school facilities.

Deuteronomy 22:5 is sometimes used because it forbids a woman wearing a man's clothing and a man wearing a woman's clothing. Even here the focus is on clothing within an ancient cultural setting not on spoken pronouns or the use of modern toilets.

Pronouns
Ancient Hebrew and Greek both use gendered grammar yet there is no command that people must always refer to others with pronouns that match biological sex. Modern arguments about biologically accurate pronouns build on general beliefs about creation or truthfulness. They do not come from a verse that uses this requirement. Even Christian writers who support that position acknowledge it is an ethical application not a direct biblical instruction.

Sex segregated facilities
The Bible contains rules about modesty and sexual behaviour yet it never addresses public toilets school locker rooms or similar facilities because these did not exist in biblical times. Christian arguments for sex segregated bathrooms rely on general themes about male and female marriage modesty or privacy then apply those themes to modern policies. This is interpretation not a direct command such as men must only ever use male bathrooms.

What is happening with claims that religious beliefs require these things
The DOJ description refers to what those particular students and their lawyers claim their Christian beliefs require. This is not the same as quoting the Bible. No passage states Christians must use biologically accurate pronouns and must use sex segregated facilities. That requirement is constructed from interpretation not from the text.

Different Christians who read the same Bible reach different conclusions about pronouns and facilities. If the Bible gave an explicit rule there would be no disagreement which makes clear that the claim is interpretive not literal.

Conclusion
There is no biblical text that commands the use of modern biologically defined pronouns the use of sex segregated bathrooms or disciplinary action against people who do not follow such practices. When someone claims that Scripture itself requires these exact behaviours they are presenting interpretation as if it were a direct command. That does not match what is written which leaves their argument selective and incomplete.

Best Wishes Always
Sarah B
Global Moderator


Very good analysis. I would add to this by saying that Genesis actually says that God made Man male AND female. So God only made man (not to be confused with a male). And man was made male and female. We have both within us which makes sense because we are made in the image of God and therefore God has to be both male and female.
As for Deuteronomy... Christians have to stop cherry picking from that book and understand that it was written by Moses for a very specific reason and point in time which was to preserve and protect their culture and stop his people from participating in cultural practices of other cultures. Some of the pagan / Babylonian high priests worshipped female gods and would include cross dressing in their ceremonies. That is specifically why Moses wrote a law to prohibit it. Not God's law but the law of Moses. Deuteronomy has some weird restrictions on what fabrics can be in your clothing, what you can eat and architecture of the house. Everything was an abomination if you broke the law. And yes you could kill your children if they were disobedient to you. Or stone your wife to death for adultery. Or own a slave. So Christians cannot cherry pick from that book. They all seem to agree that Deuteronomy is outdated on almost every rule (Christians love their pork BBQ ribs and bacon cheese burgers despite being prohibited in Deuteronomy) but conveniently pick versus when it suits them.