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Title: Lived lessons
Post by: FierceGina on January 14, 2026, 07:22:22 PM
Post by: FierceGina on January 14, 2026, 07:22:22 PM
Does anyone else feel like we, our souls, were put here to learn some? A lesson we needed for some reason?
It has been a long time since I have accepted any type of organized religion. I am more of what you would call a spiritual person I guess. I believe we were put here to learn something. Struggle, empathy, caring for others, experiencing pain...
I don't know, it just feels like I am here for a reason. Burdened by this other body I have been put in, this wrong body.
Or maybe, I was a woman in a past life and my soul feels echoes of that life. Sometimes when I wake, in that sort of sleepy haze. I just know that i am a woman. I believe it with all,that I am. I reach down, and then am surely reminded that I am not...
Anyway, apologies for the rambling philosophies.
Does anyone else feel similiar?
It has been a long time since I have accepted any type of organized religion. I am more of what you would call a spiritual person I guess. I believe we were put here to learn something. Struggle, empathy, caring for others, experiencing pain...
I don't know, it just feels like I am here for a reason. Burdened by this other body I have been put in, this wrong body.
Or maybe, I was a woman in a past life and my soul feels echoes of that life. Sometimes when I wake, in that sort of sleepy haze. I just know that i am a woman. I believe it with all,that I am. I reach down, and then am surely reminded that I am not...
Anyway, apologies for the rambling philosophies.
Does anyone else feel similiar?
Title: Re: Lived lessons
Post by: Lori Dee on January 14, 2026, 07:40:50 PM
Post by: Lori Dee on January 14, 2026, 07:40:50 PM
Quote from: FierceGina on January 14, 2026, 07:22:22 PMDoes anyone else feel similiar?
What I believe is that we are here to experience Life. That is our design and purpose. The Creator experiences life through us. The very purpose of life is to experience more life. Leave a field vacant, and it soon will be filled with life.
The lessons you feel are a part of that. The Creator wants us to be a part of the Divine Plan, the recreation of the Garden of Eden or Heaven on Earth, so that humans and their Creator can live together in harmony.
The problem is that humans have not evolved spiritually enough to understand what their role is. Until we do, we cannot fulfill that role.
Long before humans arrived, fire existed. Humans did not know what it was and feared it. As they evolved, they learned and became able to use it to improve their lives. The same is true for electricity. We cannot fulfill our role until we understand what it is and how we use it so that we can become a functioning part of the Divine Plan.
Gender has nothing to do with it. As Genesis tells us, spirits (souls) were created male AND female. Not either/or and not neither. Both.
The feelings we have telling us we are female are a function of brain development before we were born. We have been this way since birth, even if we didn't realize it before now.
Title: Re: Lived lessons
Post by: Pema on January 14, 2026, 08:14:16 PM
Post by: Pema on January 14, 2026, 08:14:16 PM
I do think we're here to learn something(s). I think it's up to us to work out what it is we're here to learn and then to do what we can to learn it. Sometimes, in the process of doing that, we'll learn something else entirely, and maybe that's as much what we came here to learn as anything else.
Title: Re: Lived lessons
Post by: tgirlamg on January 14, 2026, 10:49:08 PM
Post by: tgirlamg on January 14, 2026, 10:49:08 PM
@FierceGina
Great topic sister!
Yes, I actually believe every bit of our experience here in this reality is for our benefit, the benefit of our creator and the benefit of all that is in the largest spiritual sense... I believe we are offered directions, experiences and opportunities to make choices and learn from them... Every choice ever made changes reality to some degree... perhaps as we get wiser we begin to make more and more choices based on love... 💕
As this relates the gender issues most of us here have experienced from a young age... I believe the experience offers us unique opportunities for spiritual growth... We often reach levels of self exploration that others never have the need to undertake... perhaps what the universe needs right now is people who don't go along with the status quo but rather, go through a difficult journey for self and what their truth is... and then find the strength to stand apart and live that truth... 💕
I have said here many times over the years that transition is a spiritual quest... if we have never shown our true self to others... we have never been loved... to be truly loved we must show ourself to others and that is something most of us avoided for a lifetime... Transition is an attempt to place ourself in a position in our own life where we can finally give and receive love... What could be more spiritual than that? 💕
Onward Brave Sister!
Ashley 💕
Great topic sister!
Yes, I actually believe every bit of our experience here in this reality is for our benefit, the benefit of our creator and the benefit of all that is in the largest spiritual sense... I believe we are offered directions, experiences and opportunities to make choices and learn from them... Every choice ever made changes reality to some degree... perhaps as we get wiser we begin to make more and more choices based on love... 💕
As this relates the gender issues most of us here have experienced from a young age... I believe the experience offers us unique opportunities for spiritual growth... We often reach levels of self exploration that others never have the need to undertake... perhaps what the universe needs right now is people who don't go along with the status quo but rather, go through a difficult journey for self and what their truth is... and then find the strength to stand apart and live that truth... 💕
I have said here many times over the years that transition is a spiritual quest... if we have never shown our true self to others... we have never been loved... to be truly loved we must show ourself to others and that is something most of us avoided for a lifetime... Transition is an attempt to place ourself in a position in our own life where we can finally give and receive love... What could be more spiritual than that? 💕
Onward Brave Sister!
Ashley 💕
Title: Re: Lived lessons
Post by: Allie Jayne on January 14, 2026, 11:53:14 PM
Post by: Allie Jayne on January 14, 2026, 11:53:14 PM
Well it is the nature of things that we learn, as successful organisms are the ones that get to reproduce more, and the changes which made them successful are passed on in their DNA. So in nature, you would be correct!
Hugs,
Allie
Hugs,
Allie
Title: Re: Lived lessons
Post by: Charlotte Kitty on January 15, 2026, 01:23:45 AM
Post by: Charlotte Kitty on January 15, 2026, 01:23:45 AM
If this is the case then I can't imagine what my purpose is and can only resent being put here for it! I try to make the best of being so to speak, but can't say that 75% of it doesn't feel like punishment. It has done for well over three decades.
I'm not sure what to make of any of it. I always come back to the same conclusion that there is no purpose and that is the only thing I can see with pure logical clarity.
Sorry my outlook is not so rosy but there are always two sides to every story and this is the reality I feel nearly 365 days.
Maybe there is a purpose I don't know about as of course I'm sure humans probably know way less about the universe than they don't know. Its so vast out there and i question how it's all so perfectly yet imperfectly formed. I know there's something bigger, but i dont believe is explainable by humanity. I am 100% sure though I don't want to come back after I die. The idea of life after this is something I don't want.
Charlotte 😻
I'm not sure what to make of any of it. I always come back to the same conclusion that there is no purpose and that is the only thing I can see with pure logical clarity.
Sorry my outlook is not so rosy but there are always two sides to every story and this is the reality I feel nearly 365 days.
Maybe there is a purpose I don't know about as of course I'm sure humans probably know way less about the universe than they don't know. Its so vast out there and i question how it's all so perfectly yet imperfectly formed. I know there's something bigger, but i dont believe is explainable by humanity. I am 100% sure though I don't want to come back after I die. The idea of life after this is something I don't want.
Charlotte 😻
Title: Re: Lived lessons
Post by: tgirlamg on January 15, 2026, 08:11:20 AM
Post by: tgirlamg on January 15, 2026, 08:11:20 AM
Hey Gina!
I wanted to add that I believe our lessons in life are wherever we find them and often... The most meaningful ones are contained in the times where we struggle most.... I think there are lessons in everything we experience but, it is up to us to keep our eyes open and process our experiences to extract what is there for us...✨💛✨
Onward We Go Brave Sister!
Ashley 💕
I wanted to add that I believe our lessons in life are wherever we find them and often... The most meaningful ones are contained in the times where we struggle most.... I think there are lessons in everything we experience but, it is up to us to keep our eyes open and process our experiences to extract what is there for us...✨💛✨
Onward We Go Brave Sister!
Ashley 💕
Title: Re: Lived lessons
Post by: Dances With Trees on January 15, 2026, 09:19:31 PM
Post by: Dances With Trees on January 15, 2026, 09:19:31 PM
Quote from: Charlotte_Ringwood on January 15, 2026, 01:23:45 AMI'm not sure what to make of any of it. I always come back to the same conclusion that there is no purpose and that is the only thing I can see with pure logical clarity.Charlotte, your post has lingered in the back of my mind throughout the day. And I wish I could unequivocally embrace some of the more affirming posts generated in response to FierceGina's invitation to share. But yours is the one my mind kept visiting. I'm old. 74. I have been a devout fundamentalist Christian and an atheist. I have been a skeptic and an existentialist. A Buddhist and an absurdist. I have reached the point where I fervently believe in nothing. And accept the possibility of virtually everything. I try to live each day as though it matters. As though what I do and don't do during that day makes a difference to me and to those I love. I think that much is true. I hope it is. And I have also learned that every moment of happiness, every laugh, every smile is a gift. Perhaps an unearned gift. Perhaps even grace. But those moments are the ones that make my life meaningful. Whatever we believe, whether we agree on much of anything, or nothing at all, we can smile at one another. We can reach out with an open hand. And an open heart. Even if our minds are closed.
Title: Re: Lived lessons
Post by: WendyPeer on February 16, 2026, 03:29:13 PM
Post by: WendyPeer on February 16, 2026, 03:29:13 PM
John Money, and others proved that every conceivable form of the variation of LGBTQ is natural, and has always been found in our species in every society in all of our history, and comes from nature. I am turning 60 this year, to try an exact time clock I was born a girl assigned male, but actually lived genetically as a transgender non binary until 17. By 18 I went through my masculine cis normative phase of course from an impact of normative social beliefs about behavior. By
35 I transitioned to seeing my childhood as the perfect nature vs nurture experience. This I believe is how transitioning, and becoming transitioned and transgender happened for me. This Allowed me to view my life as a complete and whole life cycle, which became a positive spiritual enlightenment when my sister, and I agreed how valuable our relationship to each other is. Yes gender is natural science and also spiritual, I had to see my views as Trans as a minority, but never a mistake. I suppose my point is only that transgender diagnosed persons weren't always given hormones, and two dozen cosmetic surgeries believed to help transition transgender people. I grew up bullied but in defense. Being Transgender does not have to mean having a procedure done. It does not have to mean that our gender identity should, would, or even could change back. It is and always will be. Transgender gender identity is genetic. It is also natural. So to ask what that means. In my experience is that we should not have to make an observation of sin, or learned behavior, or pressured influence
, or how denial equates itself to dysphoria. Yes learn always learn, but also live with us as LGBTQ. You will see you have greater resilience and resolution through all times of struggle than most.
35 I transitioned to seeing my childhood as the perfect nature vs nurture experience. This I believe is how transitioning, and becoming transitioned and transgender happened for me. This Allowed me to view my life as a complete and whole life cycle, which became a positive spiritual enlightenment when my sister, and I agreed how valuable our relationship to each other is. Yes gender is natural science and also spiritual, I had to see my views as Trans as a minority, but never a mistake. I suppose my point is only that transgender diagnosed persons weren't always given hormones, and two dozen cosmetic surgeries believed to help transition transgender people. I grew up bullied but in defense. Being Transgender does not have to mean having a procedure done. It does not have to mean that our gender identity should, would, or even could change back. It is and always will be. Transgender gender identity is genetic. It is also natural. So to ask what that means. In my experience is that we should not have to make an observation of sin, or learned behavior, or pressured influence
, or how denial equates itself to dysphoria. Yes learn always learn, but also live with us as LGBTQ. You will see you have greater resilience and resolution through all times of struggle than most.