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Title: Envy of biological women.
Post by: CosmicJoke on May 29, 2026, 02:13:22 PM
Hi everyone. I'm honestly not sure if anyone will really be able to relate to this feeling but I decided to post anyway.

Sometimes I get this feeling of envy towards biological women. It seems like they can express themselves as masculine or as feminine as they want to, and nobody will see them as anything else based on pure biology. It's like we have to "work harder" in a sense. I think that's where that feeling stems from.

Like I said, I really don't know if anybody would even be able to relate to this but has that feeling at least been felt once before?

I have heard of the feeling of seeing a beautiful woman and feeling jealous. I think this feeling I am talking about is a little different though, but I'm just genuinely interested.
Title: Re: Envy of biological women.
Post by: Stottie Girl on May 29, 2026, 02:50:32 PM
I sometimes look wistfully at women and wish I could look just like them, I'm not sure if that is really envy or not really. I think most people have that when they look at someone more attractive, it makes us see faults in ourselves.

I think if I was envious of anything relating to women it's that I won't ever be able to carry a life inside me. Seeing pregnant or breast feeding women or women with babies makes me smile and feel sad at the same time but there is definitely a bit of jealousy there too.
Title: Re: Envy of biological women.
Post by: Sephirah on May 29, 2026, 03:30:08 PM
Quote from: CosmicJoke on Today at 02:13:22 PMHi everyone. I'm honestly not sure if anyone will really be able to relate to this feeling but I decided to post anyway.

Sometimes I get this feeling of envy towards biological women. It seems like they can express themselves as masculine or as feminine as they want to, and nobody will see them as anything else based on pure biology. It's like we have to "work harder" in a sense. I think that's where that feeling stems from.

Like I said, I really don't know if anybody would even be able to relate to this but has that feeling at least been felt once before?

I have heard of the feeling of seeing a beautiful woman and feeling jealous. I think this feeling I am talking about is a little different though, but I'm just genuinely interested.

If I could offer a different suggestion, sweetie. It seems like what you're envious of is someone for whom it doesn't matter. Where gender expression and gender identity aren't tied up like spaghetti in an Italian restaurant. And yeah for a lot of trans girls that is a thing. You first have to be happy enough with yourself before you can allow yourself to not care what the rest of the world thinks.

That is difficult when it's on your mind literally all the time. When everything around you is trying to reinforce that point. It's hard to just... be. I think that's why a lot of trans folks go through transition. To get to that point. Where it just does not matter anymore and you don't have to think about it. Where you can explore being masculine or feminine without always having to try and link it to how the world sees you, or how you see yourself.

Because they are not the same, in my opinion. I would not think any less of a trans girl who was into muscle cars, or fishing, or whatever. Nor would I think any less of a trans guy who was into fashion, or catering, or whatever. These are things we put on ourselves. A lot of the time if you are a trans girl, you have to be the girliest girl you can envision... just to satisfy yourself or others. When the truth is, that's not how women are. We don't all like pink wallpaper and fluffy slippers.

You are who you are and you love who/what you love. Being male or female should be a baseline, in my opinion. Not an identity. It's the thing you don't care about when you don't have to care about it. Instead of trying to work out what it is. It is what you want it to be.
Title: Re: Envy of biological women.
Post by: Northern Star Girl on May 29, 2026, 04:24:37 PM
@Sephirah
Dear Lauren:
I completely agree with your posting reply comment to @CosmicJoke ...
What you stated is exactly what I would have said if I was on this thread
earlier today.

Thank you for sharing your insight, your kind compassion, and your life
journey insights.

Please continue being the sweet sense of being the purveyor of common sense
and wisdom for our LGBTQ+ members
.

I always look forward to reading what you post... always good advice.

          ❤️
Many HUGS,
Danielle
[Northern Star Girl]
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