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Title: Lutherans to Release Draft of Sexuality Statement in March
Post by: Natasha on February 08, 2008, 12:04:11 AM
Lutherans to Release Draft of Sexuality Statement in March

http://www.advocate.com/news_detail_ektid52107.asp
02/08/2008

The Evangelical Lutheran Church in America will soon release a draft of its social statement on human sexuality, including proposed teaching on gay relationships.

Title: Re: Lutherans to Release Draft of Sexuality Statement in March
Post by: cindianna_jones on February 08, 2008, 02:49:13 AM
It's sortta like they have this big billboard that says:  "We don't want you."

Why in the world would we ever care to join?  It's like the Log Cabin Republicans.  I just can't fathom their logic for wanting to be a part of a political party who doesn't want them.

Cindi
Title: Re: Lutherans to Release Draft of Sexuality Statement in March
Post by: Hazumu on February 08, 2008, 07:20:35 AM
Maybe it would be a good thing for the USA to Balkanize... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nine_Nations)

=K
Title: Re: Lutherans to Release Draft of Sexuality Statement in March
Post by: lady amarant on February 08, 2008, 07:26:30 AM
Should be interesting to see what they come up with. I wonder if they're going to have a little prayer in a side-box every time they use the word 'sexual'.

I'm sorry. That's terrible, and I do apologise... But I'm going to leave it in there anyway.  :eusa_pray:
Title: Re: Lutherans to Release Draft of Sexuality Statement in March
Post by: Lisbeth on February 08, 2008, 09:32:09 AM
You're judging them without knowing them.  I'm part of the ELCA, and we shall see what the draft says.
Title: Re: Lutherans to Release Draft of Sexuality Statement in March
Post by: lady amarant on February 08, 2008, 11:10:05 AM
Quote from: Lisbeth on February 08, 2008, 09:32:09 AM
You're judging them without knowing them.  I'm part of the ELCA, and we shall see what the draft says.

I suppose I am. Sorry. I've just had one too many Bibles shoved in my face recently.
Title: Re: Lutherans to Release Draft of Sexuality Statement in March
Post by: Lisbeth on February 08, 2008, 03:36:26 PM
Quote from: lady amarant on February 08, 2008, 11:10:05 AM
I suppose I am. Sorry. I've just had one too many Bibles shoved in my face recently.
I wasn't referring only to you.
Title: Re: Lutherans to Release Draft of Sexuality Statement in March
Post by: kristinrichann on February 08, 2008, 07:25:45 PM
 I am MS Luthern  and I have caught flack in the past about what I have been doing is gay when in reality I am abstaining from any sex untill I have come to a compleation in my transition  before they knew about me the pastor and I had a talk  and I quote him "he says that as long as we truly believe in the birth and the death of christ and repent for our sins that we will be saved "  then came the discusion and it was refered as sodmy  a sin in Gods eyes   here I am a man switching to match my mental status of a woman and I do not want to have a lez relationship I am still gay because I was born a man   so God goofed when he was making me or he was distracted  by the thoughts of people like him   as I see it God let this happen for a reason   something for me to learn  every thing he doese he does for a reason
that comes to the grater good is what I believe and I do not believe what I am correcting is a sin   I think that there two sayings that come from the Bible  " Judge not let you be judged "  so who are we to judge each other let alone ourselfs  it is gods place to do that   then there is some thing like this "Take the bolder out of your own eye before you remove the pebal out of your neighbors "  so I think that we were being told to worry about ourselfs not others
verry deep discussion that could go on for ever   as I see it I am comfertable with what I believe and the Lords house is in my heart and that is were I pray   I will let God be the judge of me not man
thanks
Kristin
Title: Re: Lutherans to Release Draft of Sexuality Statement in March
Post by: lady amarant on February 08, 2008, 11:15:48 PM
Came across this quote in an essay I found at a Y!group I frequent a while ago - unfortunately the essay is anonymous, so I can't give credit, but I think it presents a very valid different take by religion:

Quote
When I asked a theologian about the ethic of the correction, I was told, "Because our imperfect world does not create perfect beings, illnesses and defects are parts of life. Medical science exists because God gives us the gifts of intelligence and skill to heal and correct. In light of these gifts from God, ethically, gender correction is the same as club-foot correction."

I posted this in another thread a while ago, but I think it's very apt after reading Kristin's post.
Title: Re: Lutherans to Release Draft of Sexuality Statement in March
Post by: kristinrichann on February 09, 2008, 05:46:04 AM
I would have liked to see the whole artical  if there was more   that is kinda like how I feel about me   I just have a birth defect  much the same as my son  he has a rare brittle bone dease called OI  or (sp)
Ostigenisimperfecta   and we are addresing his issue much the same as we and I are adressing mine and others are adressing theirs  thank you for that artical
Kristin