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Title: Just wanted to say thank you
Post by: madison on March 31, 2006, 02:46:14 AM
Post by: madison on March 31, 2006, 02:46:14 AM
I am still very new here, learning who everyone is, slowly beginning to feel like one of the family, and I wanted to thank you all.
Until I started participating in the discussions here a few weeks ago, I had a sad desperate feeling in the pit of my stomach that didn't seem as though would ever go away. And now? Are all my problems solved, confusion dissolved, anxiety eliminated? No. But I feel more comfortable with myself, with my world. I feel less like a freak. I feel a joy filling that pit, replacing the sad lonely thoughts with hope, a sense of belonging.
It is all especially funny, because I feared being shut out, ostracized, even here. Because, like an evil hypocrite, I thought that the people posting on these forums must be desperate and confused, and surely I am not really one of them. Because I never really had any one to talk to about things as simple as being dumb enough to put Nair on my face and never thought I really needed to. Because I was so wrong.
Nobody made me feel unwelcome. Nobody laughed at my point of view. Nobody ridiculed the revealing of intimate thoughts and emotions. There were actually people who could relate to putting Nair on their face.
And the people were real. Real people living real lives. All types of people, not the stereotypes that even I was apparently buying into. People with issues of gender and sexuality, and everything else that makes up living, just like "real" people. Interacting with real people with similar issues and very different circumstances; I had never seriously thought about FTM issues before, and now I have a new compassion for people I may never meet in person.
This is not the most eloquent post. I envisioned lofty prose that would bring angels to tears, instead you get this.
Thank you.
Thank you Susan and the rest of the staff. Thank you to all the people I have met so far, and all the people who have posted through the years. Thank you to the people I have yet to meet. Thank you for sharing your joy and sorrow. Thank you for being real. Thank YOU for being here, reading this now.
Find your day well.
Until I started participating in the discussions here a few weeks ago, I had a sad desperate feeling in the pit of my stomach that didn't seem as though would ever go away. And now? Are all my problems solved, confusion dissolved, anxiety eliminated? No. But I feel more comfortable with myself, with my world. I feel less like a freak. I feel a joy filling that pit, replacing the sad lonely thoughts with hope, a sense of belonging.
It is all especially funny, because I feared being shut out, ostracized, even here. Because, like an evil hypocrite, I thought that the people posting on these forums must be desperate and confused, and surely I am not really one of them. Because I never really had any one to talk to about things as simple as being dumb enough to put Nair on my face and never thought I really needed to. Because I was so wrong.
Nobody made me feel unwelcome. Nobody laughed at my point of view. Nobody ridiculed the revealing of intimate thoughts and emotions. There were actually people who could relate to putting Nair on their face.
And the people were real. Real people living real lives. All types of people, not the stereotypes that even I was apparently buying into. People with issues of gender and sexuality, and everything else that makes up living, just like "real" people. Interacting with real people with similar issues and very different circumstances; I had never seriously thought about FTM issues before, and now I have a new compassion for people I may never meet in person.
This is not the most eloquent post. I envisioned lofty prose that would bring angels to tears, instead you get this.
Thank you.
Thank you Susan and the rest of the staff. Thank you to all the people I have met so far, and all the people who have posted through the years. Thank you to the people I have yet to meet. Thank you for sharing your joy and sorrow. Thank you for being real. Thank YOU for being here, reading this now.
Find your day well.
Title: Re: Just wanted to say thank you
Post by: NightAngel on March 31, 2006, 04:21:19 AM
Post by: NightAngel on March 31, 2006, 04:21:19 AM
and Thank you Madison for your participation on this forum.
Welcome to the Susan's dear Madison!!
Have a nice day.
*hug*
Michelle
Welcome to the Susan's dear Madison!!
Have a nice day.
*hug*
Michelle
Title: Re: Just wanted to say thank you
Post by: stephanie_craxford on March 31, 2006, 05:37:05 AM
Post by: stephanie_craxford on March 31, 2006, 05:37:05 AM
Hello Madison.
No thanks are necessary hon, it's what Susan's is all about, a safe secure friendly place to look for help guidance, support and fellowship, and of course lively debate on occasion.
Your own contributions have undoubtedly helped others here and that makes for the give and take of Susan's "Give a little and take a little".
Thank you for participating and for adding to the colourful mix of Susan's.
Steph
No thanks are necessary hon, it's what Susan's is all about, a safe secure friendly place to look for help guidance, support and fellowship, and of course lively debate on occasion.
Your own contributions have undoubtedly helped others here and that makes for the give and take of Susan's "Give a little and take a little".
Thank you for participating and for adding to the colourful mix of Susan's.
Steph
Title: Re: Just wanted to say thank you
Post by: slinky on April 03, 2006, 10:09:22 AM
Post by: slinky on April 03, 2006, 10:09:22 AM
You don't have to say thanks...
We are all here for you..just like your there for us..
((((Madison))))
We are all here for you..just like your there for us..
((((Madison))))
Title: Re: Just wanted to say thank you
Post by: Lacey Lynne on February 26, 2009, 08:59:08 PM
Post by: Lacey Lynne on February 26, 2009, 08:59:08 PM
Madison,
Would I be taking things too far by telling you that people here will come to love you for being you? They will, Hun! Remember: The greatest eloquence possible is ... The sound of sincerity. You are MOST eloquent!
By the way, many of us here are quite well-balanced and "together." Frankly, I dare say that you will find us a whole lot more together than most of the general population. Don't mean to sound arrogant, but I believe this to be true.
Welcome! You're ACCEPTED here! Feel AT HOME!
Hugs!
Would I be taking things too far by telling you that people here will come to love you for being you? They will, Hun! Remember: The greatest eloquence possible is ... The sound of sincerity. You are MOST eloquent!
By the way, many of us here are quite well-balanced and "together." Frankly, I dare say that you will find us a whole lot more together than most of the general population. Don't mean to sound arrogant, but I believe this to be true.
Welcome! You're ACCEPTED here! Feel AT HOME!
Hugs!
Title: Re: Just wanted to say thank you
Post by: Alyssa M. on February 26, 2009, 10:31:39 PM
Post by: Alyssa M. on February 26, 2009, 10:31:39 PM
I think this needs to be said:
Lately there have been a lot of "bumps" of really old topics -- i.e., topics inactive for long periods of times, such as this one, that get posted to and therefore "bumped" up to the top of the board. I think this is because of the new use of the "related topics" feature that often links to very old topics. It used to be that you got a dialog box when you posted to an old topic asking if you really meant to bump it -- is this still active?
Please, don't bump ancient topics unless you have a good reason for it. By all means search for a topic you're interested in and bump it if you want more discussion about it, but I don't see how that could be the case in this situation. Lacey, the original poster has been inactive for quite some time, indeed far long than you have even been active. For heaven's sake, this topic is three years old! I really don't understand why you posted here, unless you didn't see the dates.
Please, please, please, people --- when you look at a topic, especially a "related topic" --- pay attention to the dates on it! If not, you risk bumping up an irrelevant topic at the expense of the visibility other topics that are likely of more interest to people. And, you might look rather foolish too!
Thank you,
~Alyssa
Lately there have been a lot of "bumps" of really old topics -- i.e., topics inactive for long periods of times, such as this one, that get posted to and therefore "bumped" up to the top of the board. I think this is because of the new use of the "related topics" feature that often links to very old topics. It used to be that you got a dialog box when you posted to an old topic asking if you really meant to bump it -- is this still active?
Please, don't bump ancient topics unless you have a good reason for it. By all means search for a topic you're interested in and bump it if you want more discussion about it, but I don't see how that could be the case in this situation. Lacey, the original poster has been inactive for quite some time, indeed far long than you have even been active. For heaven's sake, this topic is three years old! I really don't understand why you posted here, unless you didn't see the dates.
Please, please, please, people --- when you look at a topic, especially a "related topic" --- pay attention to the dates on it! If not, you risk bumping up an irrelevant topic at the expense of the visibility other topics that are likely of more interest to people. And, you might look rather foolish too!
Thank you,
~Alyssa
Title: Re: Just wanted to say thank you
Post by: Lacey Lynne on February 27, 2009, 12:06:57 PM
Post by: Lacey Lynne on February 27, 2009, 12:06:57 PM
Alyssa Said:
Lacey, the original poster has been inactive for quite some time, indeed far long than you have even been active. For heaven's sake, this topic is three years old! I really don't understand why you posted here, unless you didn't see the dates.
Please, please, please, people --- when you look at a topic, especially a "related topic" --- pay attention to the dates on it! If not, you risk bumping up an irrelevant topic at the expense of the visibility other topics that are likely of more interest to people. And, you might look rather foolish too!
Lacey Replies:
Hun, I appreciate your sentiment and understand its origin. Kindly consider this, please:
Many years ago, I received an academic scholarship to the best undergraduate college in the U.S.A. at that time ... rated above Harvard, Princeton, Yale, etc. That college was at the University of Chicago.
Our courses consisted of The Classics the origins of which were decades and even centuries in the past. Why was that? Because, THE PRINCIPLES were ... TIMELESS! Hence, my alluding to the aforesaid posted thread, of old origin though it may have been. And, why did I do that?
Because, the original topic is as apropos and germane to any TS girl today as when it was originally posted. Hence, there is ageless wisdom contained therein to enrich the lives of all of us. This is precisely why I alluded to it.
Alas, alack and anon, there is no rule, law or decree that pontificates: "Thou shalt not revive posts older than 30 days." Moreover, where there such a decree, then buncombe and balderdash upon it, say I.
So much of modern society is in the undeniable tizzy that it is ... because we ignore the timeless principles of antiquity that guided great societies of yore to resplendent preeminence. May I heartily conject that we would be wise indeed to reassert this most hallowed tradition of learning from the wisdom of the ancients ... when it has proven to be truly wise?
Sorry to come on so strong, Hun. Yes, I can be foolish, true. However, in this case, I surely was not. I dare say that my insight in the referred to post was both prescient and cogent and imparted very good advice ... that is timeless ... not because I say so, but rather because the principles upon which it is based have proven to be most valid ... for centuries.
Remember, Hun, in 1905 and then again in 1913 when Albert Einstein challenged the authority of the Newtonian worldview, sages, pundits and martinets the world over thought him to be a blithering fool ... until the atomic bomb unleashed heretofore un-thought-of efulgence over the poor cities of Hiroshima and then Nagasaki, Japan in 1945. Once that happened, there was irrefutable evidence that he who they thought was an idiot, Albert Einstein, was right after all. By gosh, by golly, by gum, The Fool had instantaneously transmogrified into The Genius. What about him had really changed to bring this most remarkable change in status and esteem about? Not a single scintillum ... except others' PERCEPTION of him. My, oh, my ... Imagine That!
Why was he right? Because, he opened his mind enough to realize what other people COULD HAVE realized but had closed their minds so that they COULD NOT realize the same.
The Point: Open our minds enough to realize that wisdom is wise regardless of its point of origin in history.
If you consider me foolish for honoring proven wisdom of the ages, then I wear the label of Fool with honor, pride and insight! Remember, they called Einstein a fool too for decades ... until he proved to be on to something unthinkably grand that his critics could not even begin to fathom. I rest my case ... its tone and tenor of invective and inveigh notwithstanding!
Sorry to be erudite, avuncular (inasumch as I'm still a guy at this point) and jocund, but, as The Ancients used to say: Q.E.D. or Quad Erat Demonstrandum; i.e., That Which Has Been Shown.
Thanks, Babes!
Hugs!
Lacey, the original poster has been inactive for quite some time, indeed far long than you have even been active. For heaven's sake, this topic is three years old! I really don't understand why you posted here, unless you didn't see the dates.
Please, please, please, people --- when you look at a topic, especially a "related topic" --- pay attention to the dates on it! If not, you risk bumping up an irrelevant topic at the expense of the visibility other topics that are likely of more interest to people. And, you might look rather foolish too!
Lacey Replies:
Hun, I appreciate your sentiment and understand its origin. Kindly consider this, please:
Many years ago, I received an academic scholarship to the best undergraduate college in the U.S.A. at that time ... rated above Harvard, Princeton, Yale, etc. That college was at the University of Chicago.
Our courses consisted of The Classics the origins of which were decades and even centuries in the past. Why was that? Because, THE PRINCIPLES were ... TIMELESS! Hence, my alluding to the aforesaid posted thread, of old origin though it may have been. And, why did I do that?
Because, the original topic is as apropos and germane to any TS girl today as when it was originally posted. Hence, there is ageless wisdom contained therein to enrich the lives of all of us. This is precisely why I alluded to it.
Alas, alack and anon, there is no rule, law or decree that pontificates: "Thou shalt not revive posts older than 30 days." Moreover, where there such a decree, then buncombe and balderdash upon it, say I.
So much of modern society is in the undeniable tizzy that it is ... because we ignore the timeless principles of antiquity that guided great societies of yore to resplendent preeminence. May I heartily conject that we would be wise indeed to reassert this most hallowed tradition of learning from the wisdom of the ancients ... when it has proven to be truly wise?
Sorry to come on so strong, Hun. Yes, I can be foolish, true. However, in this case, I surely was not. I dare say that my insight in the referred to post was both prescient and cogent and imparted very good advice ... that is timeless ... not because I say so, but rather because the principles upon which it is based have proven to be most valid ... for centuries.
Remember, Hun, in 1905 and then again in 1913 when Albert Einstein challenged the authority of the Newtonian worldview, sages, pundits and martinets the world over thought him to be a blithering fool ... until the atomic bomb unleashed heretofore un-thought-of efulgence over the poor cities of Hiroshima and then Nagasaki, Japan in 1945. Once that happened, there was irrefutable evidence that he who they thought was an idiot, Albert Einstein, was right after all. By gosh, by golly, by gum, The Fool had instantaneously transmogrified into The Genius. What about him had really changed to bring this most remarkable change in status and esteem about? Not a single scintillum ... except others' PERCEPTION of him. My, oh, my ... Imagine That!
Why was he right? Because, he opened his mind enough to realize what other people COULD HAVE realized but had closed their minds so that they COULD NOT realize the same.
The Point: Open our minds enough to realize that wisdom is wise regardless of its point of origin in history.
If you consider me foolish for honoring proven wisdom of the ages, then I wear the label of Fool with honor, pride and insight! Remember, they called Einstein a fool too for decades ... until he proved to be on to something unthinkably grand that his critics could not even begin to fathom. I rest my case ... its tone and tenor of invective and inveigh notwithstanding!
Sorry to be erudite, avuncular (inasumch as I'm still a guy at this point) and jocund, but, as The Ancients used to say: Q.E.D. or Quad Erat Demonstrandum; i.e., That Which Has Been Shown.
Thanks, Babes!
Hugs!
Title: Re: Just wanted to say thank you
Post by: Alyssa M. on February 27, 2009, 01:24:24 PM
Post by: Alyssa M. on February 27, 2009, 01:24:24 PM
You might have directed a similar comment at someone that was seeking comfort or advice and was actually reading. For example, you could look in the "Introductions" section.
If you just thought this was a lovely old post -- and there wasn't something equivalent that people were already paying attention to -- then explain that. You could have said, "I came across this topic and I thought it was lovely and it made me smile," rather than addressing a person who isn't here anymore.
I'm not sure what the mythologizing about Einstein is about. It's a complete myth and patently false that his ideas were ignored. Are you seriously comparing you postings on an Internet forum to Eintstein's 1905 papers? Or the original post to Ovid and Aeschylus for that matter? Are you for real?
If you just thought this was a lovely old post -- and there wasn't something equivalent that people were already paying attention to -- then explain that. You could have said, "I came across this topic and I thought it was lovely and it made me smile," rather than addressing a person who isn't here anymore.
I'm not sure what the mythologizing about Einstein is about. It's a complete myth and patently false that his ideas were ignored. Are you seriously comparing you postings on an Internet forum to Eintstein's 1905 papers? Or the original post to Ovid and Aeschylus for that matter? Are you for real?
Title: Re: Just wanted to say thank you
Post by: tekla on February 27, 2009, 01:40:44 PM
Post by: tekla on February 27, 2009, 01:40:44 PM
In real life, do you have the same conversations with the same people over and over again. Of course you do, you like those topics, or subjects. Its more of an ongoing conversation, and I look at the old posts that way myself. Someone has something to add, or looks at differently - so I don't mind them. There is a huge drive for the 'new' in things like this, but I think that the reason so many old topics come up, is because the question/issue keeps coming up.