Community Conversation => Non-binary talk => Topic started by: Constance on March 17, 2008, 11:02:49 AM Return to Full Version

Title: Gender Identity and Emotions
Post by: Constance on March 17, 2008, 11:02:49 AM
I noticed something about myself today. In times of anger, I feel like I lean more towards the masculine. In times of depression, I lean more towards the femminine.

Let's same I'm rather "girly" right now.

Have any others even felt this way, or similar?
Title: Re: Gender Identity and Emotions
Post by: sd on March 17, 2008, 12:00:04 PM
I never really thought I did any shifting around in terms of gender all that much until now.

Right there with you on this.
Title: Re: Gender Identity and Emotions
Post by: RebeccaFog on March 17, 2008, 01:40:11 PM

I have noticed something similar.  When I'm angry, though, I have to shut down because it is literally painful.
Title: Re: Gender Identity and Emotions
Post by: Kir on March 17, 2008, 03:39:03 PM
I find if I am feeling 'extreme' I feel more feminine.

If I am depressed I often times feel feminine... however I think that might be a throwback from always hearing that "boys don't cry" and that girls are the emotional ones.

But if I am really hyper is when I feel most girly actually. That's when you are likely to see me prancing around the room, flipping my hair, and doing pirouettes. Either that or just bouncing up and down.

I feel most like a guy when I'm being a geek (talking about star wars, comic books, etc) even though all of the girls I know are geeks too.
Title: Re: Gender Identity and Emotions
Post by: Jaimey on March 17, 2008, 07:44:56 PM
hmm...I don't get angry too often, but I think I have a very "dad" like anger.  I have "the look."  I also took a very dad-like role with my little brother (BIG age difference...my dad wasn't around and my mom and grandparents were pushovers, so I was the disciplinarian).

I agree about feeling more feminine when when I feel extreme.  Anytime I feel really emotional, I feel more feminine.  It's pretty interesting to think about.  But I also control my emotions the way boys are taught...never cry and all that.  It's a weird mix for me.
Title: Re: Gender Identity and Emotions
Post by: Pica Pica on March 17, 2008, 07:59:11 PM
if i were going to genderwise it, I'd say when I am moody, independent, want to stride out on my own in the cold and do things then I am masculine, when I want to joke and laugh with my friends, feel part of a community and feel warm and lazy then I am more feminine. The game is to balance the two so I don't feel claustrophobic in my ladytype thing or alone in my manny thing
Title: Re: Gender Identity and Emotions
Post by: RebeccaFog on March 17, 2008, 08:30:19 PM
Quote from: Jaimey on March 17, 2008, 07:44:56 PM
I agree about feeling more feminine when when I feel extreme.  Anytime I feel really emotional, I feel more feminine.  It's pretty interesting to think about.  But I also control my emotions the way boys are taught...never cry and all that.  It's a weird mix for me.
Me too.
Title: Re: Gender Identity and Emotions
Post by: Seshatneferw on March 18, 2008, 06:18:16 AM
Me three.

Although I think it's a bit deeper than just 'boys are taught'; it's also a survival tactics against being laughed at. Just act like you don't care, and people may believe it. If you're lucky, even you may believe it.

  Nfr
Title: Re: Gender Identity and Emotions
Post by: sd on March 18, 2008, 02:21:19 PM
It is definitely more of an instinct/defense mechanism for me.

In certain situation it is just better to put up that front even if it is subconscious. I feel it is similar to the humor thing, just a way of protecting ourselves.
Title: Re: Gender Identity and Emotions
Post by: Nero on March 18, 2008, 03:03:19 PM
*Nero nods in respect and decides to answer from a binary view*

When I'm cooing over animals, comforting a friend, singing in the shower, gushing over something beautiful etc, I am feminine.
Most other times I'm masculine.
Title: Re: Gender Identity and Emotions
Post by: Constance on March 18, 2008, 03:06:41 PM
Quote from: Nero on March 18, 2008, 03:03:19 PM
*Nero nods in respect and decides to answer from a binary view*

When I'm cooing over animals, comforting a friend, singing in the shower, gushing over something beautiful etc, I am feminine.
Most other times I'm masculine.
Damn, I'm slow on the uptake.

I hadn't even thought about the binary nature of this whole thing till I read your comment. So my next question is, am I inadvertently validating/perpuating the binary construct of gender with my initial question?
Title: Re: Gender Identity and Emotions
Post by: tekla on March 18, 2008, 03:08:13 PM
yes.

but its OK.  I might be more in male mode pulling up a 110 foot chain, more female when I take out a laser level and check the skirts on the risers.  But, both need to be done.
Title: Re: Gender Identity and Emotions
Post by: Nero on March 18, 2008, 03:11:23 PM
Quote from: Shades O'Grey on March 18, 2008, 03:06:41 PM
Quote from: Nero on March 18, 2008, 03:03:19 PM
*Nero nods in respect and decides to answer from a binary view*

When I'm cooing over animals, comforting a friend, singing in the shower, gushing over something beautiful etc, I am feminine.
Most other times I'm masculine.
Damn, I'm slow on the uptake.

I hadn't even thought about the binary nature of this whole thing till I read your comment. So my next question is, am I inadvertently validating/perpuating the binary construct of gender with my initial question?

No. Non-binaries will undoubtedly have more dramatic emotional gulfs between masculine and feminine. I'm just a guy with some markedly femmy traits. Whether due to being raised female or if I'd have had them anyhow, I'll never know.
Title: Re: Gender Identity and Emotions
Post by: tekla on March 18, 2008, 04:02:55 PM
I think most are yin and yang, if they let themselves become who they are.