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Title: transplants
Post by: tgirljuliewilson on May 18, 2006, 11:54:04 PM
this may sound wierd, but....

if medical science is at the point where a face can be transplanted, as well as hearts/lungs/livers etc. etc., has anyone heard of such a thing as a vagina transplant?

all my life I've dreamed of chopping off what I started with, so I could have what should be there: internal plumbing.  If such a thing were possible, I'd put myself on the waiting list tomorrow.  I'd take the whole thing, ovaries and all!

am I nuts, or has anyone else dreamed of this?
Title: Re: transplants
Post by: Melissa on May 19, 2006, 12:04:15 AM
I've heard of experimental ovary transplants, but the current method of constructing a vagina seems to be quite reliable.

Melissa
Title: Re: transplants
Post by: Sandi on May 19, 2006, 02:25:51 AM
In the future "transplants" will become an archaic thing of the past. Not only will we be able to build replacement tissue (http://www.sciencentral.com/articles/view.php3?article_id=218392681), but we will have the ability to regrow organs and limbs (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-1754008,00.html). Also through nanotechnology merging with biology we will be able to reprogram new organs (http://www.geniebusters.org/biohacker/index.html).

Nor is it as far off in the future as you might think. Maybe 20 years.
Title: Re: transplants
Post by: tgirljuliewilson on May 19, 2006, 02:30:41 AM
ahhhh!

I want it NOW!
Title: Re: transplants
Post by: ginaroxx79 on May 19, 2006, 02:47:16 AM
 In Saudi Arabia where surrogacy is against religious belief, there was a woman who had a successful uterine transplant. She had previously undergone a complete hysterectomy. The organ took well and the woman had 3 menstural cycles, ovulation and all. Unfortunatly after i believe 99 days a clot formed in the main artery supplying the transplanted uterus and it had to be removed.

Could you imagine though? No more hormones, complete reproductive organs, the possibilty of becoming pregnant. Then the down sides...cramps, messy periods, and the possibility of becoming pregnant.LOL!

All things considered if I had the option I would take it!
Title: Re: transplants
Post by: tgirljuliewilson on May 20, 2006, 03:20:15 PM
not only take it, but LOVE it!



Posted at: May 19, 2006, 02:49:31 AM

is there anyone from the medical community who could comment on the practical realities of performing such an operation?

blood flow, nerves, muscles.....I know there's got to be a lot to it, but it seems no more difficult than transplanting a kidney.

It just seems like such an elegant solution to what I'm looking for.....

thanks in advance,

Julie
Title: Re: transplants
Post by: Leela Rani on May 21, 2006, 10:24:47 AM
Julie

You are not the only one. I have been dreaming and imagining often that my endowment disappears and is replaced by the female organ in toto.

Leela Rani
Title: Re: transplants
Post by: Gabrielle on May 22, 2006, 09:00:54 PM
Quote from: ginaroxx79 on May 19, 2006, 02:47:16 AM
In Saudi Arabia where surrogacy is against religious belief, there was a woman who had a successful uterine transplant. She had previously undergone a complete hysterectomy. The organ took well and the woman had 3 menstural cycles, ovulation and all. Unfortunatly after i believe 99 days a clot formed in the main artery supplying the transplanted uterus and it had to be removed.

Could you imagine though? No more hormones, complete reproductive organs, the possibilty of becoming pregnant. Then the down sides...cramps, messy periods, and the possibility of becoming pregnant.LOL!

All things considered if I had the option I would take it!

We only have one major problem with giving birth.  Out hips are much narrower than a GG's and I am not sure how ours would handle that.  Its not just the width that is different, but out pelvis is higher an not tilted like a GG's.

But as far as the plumbing, I would love it.
Title: Re: transplants
Post by: Melissa on May 22, 2006, 10:42:38 PM
Very good point Gabrielle.  That would make it extremely difficult and most likely cause complications.  Maybe they can come up with a surgery to widen the hips.  I'd get it just for the more feminine look.

Melissa
Title: Re: transplants
Post by: tgirljuliewilson on May 22, 2006, 11:05:32 PM
hip replacement surgery is advertised on tv so often these days....

I've thought about it, asking for modifications to teh pelvic structure while they're in there, to heal to a real feminine body.

as fantasies go, the package deal is an awesome one....
Title: Re: transplants
Post by: Melissa on May 22, 2006, 11:12:09 PM
I just found out today, they have something called "waist surgery".  Here's a link to the surgeon's site that I saw it on: http://www.mdtnguyen.com/waist.htm (http://www.mdtnguyen.com/waist.htm).  Here's the description:

QuoteWaist reduction surgery. Sometimes referred to as "The Hour Glass Procedure".

This surgery is done by using liposuction to reduce the fat in the waist and stomach area. Once that is done sutures are placed on the sides and top to create more of a natural female waist line.

This surgery is very effective at helping male to females with hard to achieve waist lines.

The great thing for me is that this surgeon is local and I get to meet him in a couple weeks at something I go to weekly.

Melissa
Title: Re: transplants
Post by: tgirljuliewilson on May 22, 2006, 11:26:17 PM
that's awesome!  please let me (us) know the results!

one other, older method: the removal of the bottom rib.  don't hear much about that one any more....
Title: Re: transplants
Post by: ginaroxx79 on May 23, 2006, 08:33:33 PM
 One simple solution to the birthing problem would be a C-section. There are GGs who have the same problem with their pelvis'. As for hip replcement...the socket is merely replaced with a metal on, not the whole pelvis. The bony structures surrounding the birth canal are not altered.

Melissa, first off...love the new picture. You've come a long way baby! Secondly you'll have to let us know more about this surgeon and whether you plan to undergo the procedure. I'm truly excited to hear more.


:D ;)
Title: Re: transplants
Post by: Melissa on May 23, 2006, 11:12:38 PM
Thanks Gina.  I wasn't necessarily planning to undergo it myself, but I thought it sounded interesting.  Hopefully being on hormones long enough will make it so I look good enough.

Melissa
Title: Re: transplants
Post by: Nero on May 24, 2006, 12:37:41 AM
QuoteWaist reduction surgery. Sometimes referred to as the "Hour Glass Procedure".

This surgery is done by using liposuction to reduce the fat in the waist and stomach area. Once that is done sutures are placed on the sides and top to create more of a natural female waistline.

This surgery is very effective at helping male to females with hard to achieve waistlines.
Waist reduction surgery. Just what I need. :D
QuoteI wasn't necessarily planning to undergo it myself, but I thought it sounded interesting.
I certainly hope you're not planning to undergo it, you don't look like you need any surgery to me.
QuoteHopefully being on hormones long enough will make it so I look good enough.
What? You already look good enough. You look great!
Nero
Title: Re: transplants
Post by: Melissa on May 24, 2006, 12:47:43 AM
QuoteWaist reduction surgery. Just what I need. :D
Liposuction alone would probably work just fine.  I used to be against liposuction until I found out that dieting only makes fat cells shrink, but not go away.

QuoteI certainly hope you're not planning to undergo it, you don't look like you need any surgery to me.

There's a reason that you can't see below my breasts in my picture. ;)

QuoteWhat? You already look good enough. You look great!
Thanks.  My plan is to get hopefully SRS for my first surgery.  You really know how to charm a girl.  Especially an extremely self-conscious girl.

Melissa
Title: Re: transplants
Post by: Nero on May 24, 2006, 12:44:21 PM
Quote from: Melissa on May 24, 2006, 12:47:43 AM
Liposuction alone would probably work just fine.  I used to be against liposuction until I found out that dieting only makes fat cells shrink, but not go away.

There's a reason that you can't see below my breasts in my picture. ;)
Thanks.  My plan is to get hopefully SRS for my first surgery.  You really know how to charm a girl.  Especially an extremely self-conscious girl.

Melissa

I'm sure you look fine from the breasts down as well.
When I see a pretty lady, I don't hold back my thoughts.
Actually, to my own detriment, I don't hold back my thoughts on much of anything.
Nero
Title: Re: transplants
Post by: Elizabeth on May 26, 2006, 10:37:02 AM
Julie,

I was recently wondering the very same thing.  I remember several years back when they did the first hand transplant in France. It was a huge ethical issue because the side effects of the anti-rejection drugs. Since missing a hand was not life threatening, many considered it to be immoral to put this man's life at risk, just so he could have a limited use hand.

I clearly remember at that time, they said that better anti-rejection drugs were coming down the pike which would have much less side effects and make such transplants more common, because the risk would be so much less.  Then a few years later we heard about the scalp transplant and now the face transplant.

Certainly as the drugs get better and the risk becomes less, someone will attempt this.  The demand would be huge, and the moral implications huge. I could see parents wanting to have thier deceased daughters reproductive tract transplanted to someone else, in order for thier daughter to have children, even after death.  Same thing with males.  Even with narrower hips, transplanted uterus' could still undergo ceasarian section delivery, so this would really not be an issue.  Like I said though, the moral implications are tremendous.

I figure it's only a matter of time. History has taught us that if it can happen, it will. I can tell you, I would sign up for it in an instant.

Love always,
Elizabeth
Title: Re: transplants
Post by: Melissa on May 26, 2006, 08:37:41 PM
We may get so good at transplants that we could swap brains between us.  :P

Melissa
Title: Re: transplants
Post by: Hazumu on May 29, 2006, 11:08:15 PM
Quote from: Melissa on May 26, 2006, 08:37:41 PM

We may get so good at transplants that we could swap brains between us.  :P


Ah, now THAT would be the real cure for GID!

So, where's the waiting list?

Karen
Title: Re: transplants
Post by: jan c on May 30, 2006, 01:26:25 PM
Quote from: Melissa on May 26, 2006, 08:37:41 PM
We may get so good at transplants that we could swap brains between us.  :P
what was the name of that Steve Martin/Lily Tomlin picture?
Title: Re: transplants
Post by: Dennis on May 30, 2006, 02:29:24 PM
All of Me.

Dennis
Title: Re: transplants
Post by: taylor on May 30, 2006, 08:35:58 PM
I did one year of medical school many many years ago... and we were taught that the hips and the pelvis on a female and a male are NOT as different as often claimed. It is true that there are those that are  different in a lot of cases, but they are impossible to tell apart in a fair number of cases too. I saw on CSI where they made the statement that the pelvis is how they tell the sex of a decomposing body, well that is not always a sure thing, many times we just can't tell the difference. My point being that I think that a lot of trans women will have no trouble baring children once a way to carry them is figured out. C sections will not always be needed...we are all so blended with "sex traits" that I think we forget this.

I read somewhere recently that they can already grow the penis tissue to set off growth of the penis. What they are now trying to do with some consistency is stimulate the growth of the nerves so that the complete penis can be grown with full function. That is a hella good idea to me! The growth of the nerves will allow for the splicing of the nerves that will be needed in cases of trans men and those that need re attachement done etc. They are getting real close to this being completed. So that is some good news too!

Peace,

Taylor