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Title: Swimsuit problem
Post by: AlwaysLauren on April 05, 2008, 03:09:01 PM
I have a friend who wants me to get a scuba certification with her, which sounds like a lot of fun, but of course, requires a swimsuit. I have a bit of a problem: I've been on hormones long enough that I can't wear a man's swimsuit, but my chest isn't large enough to look normal in a woman's swimsuit. I'm at a large A/small B cup, and normally I pad my bra up to a C (which is still small for my frame), but I have no idea what to do with a swimsuit. I don't want to bail on my friend, but at the same time, if I don't do anything I'm going to stand out like a sore thumb, and I'd rather not go through that.

Does anybody have any experience with this sort of thing? I'm sorry if this is a stupid question, but I'm not sure who else to ask :-/
Title: Re: Swimsuit problem
Post by: Nero on April 05, 2008, 03:31:45 PM
there's got to be padded swimsuits out there. or push up ones. or i think some breast forms are waterproof - the plastic kind.
Title: Re: Swimsuit problem
Post by: AlwaysLauren on April 05, 2008, 03:54:38 PM
Quote from: Kiera on April 05, 2008, 03:37:08 PM
Does it really Lauren? Thought divers wore "wetsuits", especially in colder waters. One of those warm, protective heavier neoprene tops wouldn't solve your problem OK?

In a warm pool? So your an "enthusiast" who insists on dressing for the occasion.

Which Locker Room You Using Anyway? ;D

:icon_bunch:
I'd be going for the certification, which requires a swim test (warm pool) and they make you dive in a warm pool before taking you out to the ocean. I suspect taking people and throwing them in the ocean has a much lower success rate than trying everything out in a warm pool. And yeah, I realize this sort of question can come off really poorly, so maybe I deserve the snarky comments  :-\ I simply don't know who to else to ask though.

And I'll be using the women's locker room, or not going at all. I'm obviously not going to pass as a normal male without a shirt at this point.

I've actually never used real breast forms, I've just padded and relied on the form of the bra for shape, I guess I'll need to look into it.
Title: Re: Swimsuit problem
Post by: Keira on April 05, 2008, 04:34:39 PM

Two pairs of control top panty hoses with legs cut off
and tucking should keep this very tight with
a discrete swimsuit one piece swimsuit
with decent elasticity (not too old).
Title: Re: Swimsuit problem
Post by: AlwaysLauren on April 05, 2008, 04:41:44 PM
Quote from: Keira on April 05, 2008, 04:34:39 PM

Two pairs of control top panty hoses with legs cut off
and tucking should keep this very tight with
a discrete swimsuit one piece swimsuit
with decent elasticity (not too old).


Thank you! This helps a lot. Definitely one piece, and the panty hose idea is really good. I've been more worried about my chest and hadn't given tucking too much thought. I think I'm just going to have to invest in some sort of silicone breast forms.

Thank you for taking my question seriously, I know I don't have a long posting history, and this is the sort of question that can be seen as iffy, but, like I keep saying, I'm all alone here and really need advice. Thank you thank you thank you!
Title: Re: Swimsuit problem
Post by: Ms Jessica on April 05, 2008, 05:04:18 PM
My wife and I both certified.  Haven't gone diving as a woman, yet, plus my c-card is a dead giveaway.  You'll really have a great time.  Breathing for the first time underwater, even in the shallow end of a controlled pool, and realizing you're not going to have to surface in the next 10 seconds is one of the most amazing sensations I've ever experienced.   

You can get special breast forms (usually just more like a breast enhancer, like what you'd put in a bra to go up a cup or two), designed for swimming and exercising.  Also, even in warm waters you'll want an exposure suit.  At the very least, a shorty, like what surfers wear during the summer.  I always wear at least that much when I go diving in places like Hawaii.  It's always best to be prepared and well dressed.  You can still get hypothermia in water temps as high as 80 degrees+.  No lie. 

Have fun!  Keep us posted, and let us know how it turns out!
Title: Re: Swimsuit problem
Post by: AlwaysLauren on April 05, 2008, 05:13:34 PM
Quote from: Jessica L. on April 05, 2008, 05:04:18 PM
Have fun!  Keep us posted, and let us know how it turns out!

I will! I'm at a point in my transition where things are kinda starting to snowball, I'm moving soon, and will be in a situation where I can live as a woman 24/7 except for work, my girlfriend and I have broken up (and is probably the last woman i will ever be with); things are starting to get pretty damn complicated. I need to sit down with my friend and make sure she's willing to go through all this with me, I'm not sure she knows what she's getting into. No matter how much I pad/tweak/tuck I'm still not sure I'll be passable enough to make things comfortable for her. But, doing it as a guy isn't an option any more, and you work with what you've got.

Diving sounds incredibly exciting and is something I've always been interested in. I read Jacques Cousteau books when I was little, how could I turn down the opportunity to go do something like that myself?
Title: Re: Swimsuit problem
Post by: Ms Jessica on April 05, 2008, 05:52:25 PM
You'll definitely have a blast. 
Oh, one other thing I just thought of.  Not to scare you or anything, but.....
Are you on HRT?  You may want to talk with your endo before going diving.  Your doc may need to sign a letter or something authorizing you for the activity.  It's something the scuba agencies require if you tell them you're on, well pretty much any type of medication.  And they will ask.  Diving carries with it a very unusual set of liabilities. 

I'm sure you'll have great fun.  Enjoy!  And go diving in a place like Hawaii as soon as you finish!  It's totally worth it!
 
Title: Re: Swimsuit problem
Post by: AlwaysLauren on April 05, 2008, 05:53:39 PM
Yup, I'm on HRT, I'll keep that in mind.
Title: Re: Swimsuit problem
Post by: Just Mandy on April 05, 2008, 06:07:51 PM
Hi Lauren,

Thanks for the idea for my name :) ... yes I blantently copied you... it just SO fit what I was feeling. Anyway
I know what you are faced with... I could not pass up top as a boy anymore and the suits Ive tried in
solid colors are odd looking. But I went with a very busy varied pattern... it seems to hide the breasts and
you don't notice them at all. Try it and I thibnk you'll be surprised.

Scuba is great fun... if you get a chance to to the Caribbean or Florida Keys... the clear water is AMAZING and the most fun
you will ever have scubaing  :)

Amanda
Title: Re: Swimsuit problem
Post by: Kim on April 05, 2008, 08:47:33 PM

Ah, I know plenty of gg's who are A cup and feel comfy in a swim suit. Breast size doesn't determine your gender. I am also between A and B myself and go to beaches (though I am closer to B than I am to A - A causes a squeezing feeling). And there are padded swimsuits and ones that give you a lift if need be.  http://www.moreswimsuits.com/swimsuit-suits.html  is one site I found a little helpful. Good luck,
                           Kim
Title: Re: Swimsuit problem
Post by: AlwaysLauren on April 06, 2008, 03:39:30 AM
Kim, I'm not sure why, but I'm not seeing anything in your post, can you see it?
Title: Re: Swimsuit problem
Post by: Kim on April 06, 2008, 06:31:47 AM
No I can't either. I have no idea why either. All I said is there are plenty of gg's who are smaller than you and are comfy in a swimsuit. Bust size shouldn't define who we are.  http://www.moreswimsuits.com/swimsuit-suits.html is a useful site I found. Good luck,
                                  Kim  :angel:
Title: Re: Swimsuit problem
Post by: Berliegh on April 06, 2008, 06:50:50 AM
Quote from: AlwaysLauren on April 05, 2008, 03:09:01 PM
I have a friend who wants me to get a scuba certification with her, which sounds like a lot of fun, but of course, requires a swimsuit. I have a bit of a problem: I've been on hormones long enough that I can't wear a man's swimsuit, but my chest isn't large enough to look normal in a woman's swimsuit. I'm at a large A/small B cup, and normally I pad my bra up to a C (which is still small for my frame), but I have no idea what to do with a swimsuit. I don't want to bail on my friend, but at the same time, if I don't do anything I'm going to stand out like a sore thumb, and I'd rather not go through that.

Does anybody have any experience with this sort of thing? I'm sorry if this is a stupid question, but I'm not sure who else to ask :-/

This is the type of subject we should be talking about and the fact that we all don't cut it in a swimsuit. It is part of a proper real life test and I have also had the same thoughts on the subject as you have Lauren. I also need advice on this subject as my boobs are non existant compared to a natal female......and my butt is too small....my legs are too skinny. I've been on HRT for 10 years so I've exhausted that possibility......

Posted on: April 06, 2008, 06:46:10 AM
Quote from: Keira on April 05, 2008, 04:34:39 PM

Two pairs of control top panty hoses with legs cut off
and tucking should keep this very tight with
a discrete swimsuit one piece swimsuit
with decent elasticity (not too old).


Now, that is a crazy,  impractical, unworkable idea Keira......
Title: Re: Swimsuit problem
Post by: AlwaysLauren on April 06, 2008, 02:17:21 PM
Quote from: Kim on April 06, 2008, 06:31:47 AM
No I can't either. I have no idea why either. All I said is there are plenty of gg's who are smaller than you and are comfy in a swimsuit. Bust size shouldn't define who we are.  http://www.moreswimsuits.com/swimsuit-suits.html is a useful site I found. Good luck,
                                  Kim  :angel:

Most of the genetic women who are smaller busted than I am are also about 2/3rds my size :) I don't think bust size defines who I am, but I do think it makes a huge difference in how I'm treated by the people around me. The difference in reception between going out with and without padding my bra is incredibly dramatic,

I am not ashamed. I'm simply trying to be practical :)
Title: Re: Swimsuit problem
Post by: LynnER on April 07, 2008, 01:51:20 AM
Ive used those "natural bras" or what ever they're called by the store you buy them at...

There basically a sticky silicon bra/ half breast form... <they require you to have something to begin with>

They adhere fairly well, are easily removable, and they hold well in water so long as the adhesive isn't too old  :)

They have a form of them at walmart, for like 25 bucks... and so long as your top dosnt droop too low you'll be fine.

Hope that helps
Title: Re: Swimsuit problem
Post by: cindybc on April 07, 2008, 02:19:51 AM
Well I just used silicone breast forms in my swimsuits for 6 years of my being full time. It worked quite well for me unless you are going to do some vigorous working out of some type or another. Anyway it worked fine for me. I haven't went to the beach for a couple of years but if the opportunity arises I'll be their, I love the beach. This time I won't need breast forms, my own two babies are big enough to fill a swimsuit. 

Cindy   
Title: Re: Swimsuit problem
Post by: Keira on April 07, 2008, 03:49:06 AM

I don't see why using 2 control type panty hose with legs cut off (especially if its a size smaller) in a swimsuit is unpractical! Actually, it works so I don't get the objection.

If after tucking, using those 2 and a discrete new two small crotch area swimsuit something slips out, you must have a penis with a industrial metal coil in it coupled with a razor blade  ;)
Title: Re: Swimsuit problem
Post by: Berliegh on April 07, 2008, 05:41:00 AM
Quote from: Keira on April 07, 2008, 03:49:06 AM

I don't see why using 2 control type panty hose with legs cut off (especially if its a size smaller) in a swimsuit is unpractical! Actually, it works so I don't get the objection.

If after tucking, using those 2 and a discrete new two small crotch area swimsuit something slips out, you must have a penis with a industrial metal coil in it coupled with a razor blade  ;)


That's very ->-bleeped-<-......and not very workable at all. Imagine you are on a hot sun soaked beach you need to wear something that keeps you cool but looks good. The last thing I would want is all that clobber inderneath. I'd feel like a fake and that is definitely not somthing I would want to work with..
Title: Re: Swimsuit problem
Post by: lady amarant on April 07, 2008, 07:56:27 AM
Quote from: Berliegh on April 07, 2008, 05:41:00 AM
That's very ->-bleeped-<-......and not very workable at all. Imagine you are on a hot sun soaked beach you need to wear something that keeps you cool but looks good. The last thing I would want is all that clobber inderneath. I'd feel like a fake and that is definitely not somthing I would want to work with..

Perhaps Berleigh, but the practical reality is that, pre-SRS, passing is a problem, and when you are going for lessons to learn a new skill with a whole bunch of strangers, the last thing you need is to be outed. We may not be TV's, but that doesn't mean we can't poach good ideas when we need them.

~Simone
Title: Re: Swimsuit problem
Post by: soldierjane on April 07, 2008, 08:17:27 AM
I tuck with tight panties underneath swimsuits with skirt bottoms. For the boobage, you want to wear swimsuits that don't make an issue of your lack in the top department (I feel your pain). I like non-underwire tops that tie around the neck.
Don't worry, everyone will be gawking at your legs anyway ;)
Title: Re: Swimsuit problem
Post by: Berliegh on April 07, 2008, 08:56:11 AM
Quote from: lady amarant on April 07, 2008, 07:56:27 AM
Quote from: Berliegh on April 07, 2008, 05:41:00 AM
That's very ->-bleeped-<-......and not very workable at all. Imagine you are on a hot sun soaked beach you need to wear something that keeps you cool but looks good. The last thing I would want is all that clobber inderneath. I'd feel like a fake and that is definitely not somthing I would want to work with..

Perhaps Berleigh, but the practical reality is that, pre-SRS, passing is a problem, and when you are going for lessons to learn a new skill with a whole bunch of strangers, the last thing you need is to be outed. We may not be TV's, but that doesn't mean we can't poach good ideas when we need them.

~Simone

You could say the same post SRS if the individual doesn't have the right bodyshape...
Title: Re: Swimsuit problem
Post by: lady amarant on April 07, 2008, 09:22:01 AM
Quote from: Berliegh on April 07, 2008, 08:56:11 AM
You could say the same post SRS if the individual doesn't have the right bodyshape...

Perhaps, but with shape, there is always going to be some ambiguity - swimmers have broad shoulders. Models have narrow, boyish hips, etc. But "the bulge" - there's really no explaining that one away.

~Simone.
Title: Re: Swimsuit problem
Post by: AlwaysLauren on April 07, 2008, 09:42:54 PM
Quote from: Berliegh on April 07, 2008, 05:41:00 AM
That's very ->-bleeped-<-......
So? The way I see it, ->-bleeped-<-s and I have the same goal in term of outward appearance. Not to derail my own thread, but I've never really understood why some transsexuals look down their noses at ->-bleeped-<-s, it gets me every time. I'd give a lot to be a ->-bleeped-<- instead of a transsexual, it would make my life so much easier. Hell, if you think about it, it's possible that some of the people who try and fail at transition maybe were ->-bleeped-<-s all along but convinced themselves they were transsexuals because being a ->-bleeped-<- has such a stigma. If you look at it that way, that sort of thinking could be responsible for ruining lives. Derail done.

Quote from: LynnER on April 07, 2008, 01:51:20 AM
Ive used those "natural bras" or what ever they're called by the store you buy them at...

There basically a sticky silicon bra/ half breast form... <they require you to have something to begin with>

They adhere fairly well, are easily removable, and they hold well in water so long as the adhesive isn't too old  :)

They have a form of them at walmart, for like 25 bucks... and so long as your top dosnt droop too low you'll be fine.

Hope that helps

I've been thinking along the same lines, I do have something to begin with, just not enough to go without some sort of padding. As for tucking, I'm going to have to take that one as it goes, once I get a suit I'll know how much of a problem it is and deal accordingly. The panty-hose idea sounds pretty clever to me.
Title: Re: Swimsuit problem
Post by: Berliegh on April 08, 2008, 05:11:59 AM
Quote from: AlwaysLauren on April 07, 2008, 09:42:54 PM
Quote from: Berliegh on April 07, 2008, 05:41:00 AM
That's very ->-bleeped-<-......
So? The way I see it, ->-bleeped-<-s and I have the same goal in term of outward appearance. Not to derail my own thread, but I've never really understood why some transsexuals look down their noses at ->-bleeped-<-s, it gets me every time. I'd give a lot to be a ->-bleeped-<- instead of a transsexual, it would make my life so much easier. Hell, if you think about it, it's possible that some of the people who try and fail at transition maybe were ->-bleeped-<-s all along but convinced themselves they were transsexuals because being a ->-bleeped-<- has such a stigma. If you look at it that way, that sort of thinking could be responsible for ruining lives. Derail done.

Some ->-bleeped-<-s blow the whatsit out of some transsexuals physically and visually and look stunningly genetic and far better than some pre op transsexuals. Maybe ->-bleeped-<- was the wrong terminology for me to use but what I meant was I would prefer to not use artificial padding under a swimsuit in the height of summer under close scrutiny....just my personal choice...
Title: Re: Swimsuit problem
Post by: soldierjane on April 08, 2008, 10:01:38 AM
Another thing you can use to boost boobage is swimsuit breast forms. They are clear and more resistant to the elements than regular forms. Of course, wear the underwire when wearing the forms :P
Title: Re: Swimsuit problem
Post by: daisybelle on April 08, 2008, 02:12:33 PM
I think I did okay in a two piece... what do you peoples think??

(https://www.susans.org/forums/gallery/4186_02_10_07_9_39_31.jpg)

I wish I could lose a few pounds. 

Note: this is with two Add-a-Cup size forms inserted into the swimsuit panels on top of my AAA size chest.

Daisy
Title: Re: Swimsuit problem
Post by: Just Mandy on April 08, 2008, 02:43:35 PM
I applaud you for being able to to wear a bikini... I don't think I'll
ever have the balls (pun intended) to try :)

I don't even feel comfortable at home with that much skin showing.

Amanda
Title: Re: Swimsuit problem
Post by: cindybc on April 08, 2008, 03:58:43 PM
Hi Amanda hon, I use to go to this beach that was named Balm Beach it was a very large beach like the one in Daisybelle picture. The difference was it had hundreds of people moving about or lying in the sun on beach towels. I wore a one piece bathing suit, no problem, the hair and sun glasses I believe was my best asset. I would lay on the beach and sun myself like I belonged there just as much as anyone else. This was the summer before I came out as Cindy.

Well after I did begin full time I continued to go to the beach but a way less populated one. It had nothing to do with fear of people it was just like to much human energy in one place is what bothered me the most. Surprisingly for a little person such as I, I was bold and didn't let anything stop me from being as free as anyone else moving about to where ever I wanted to go or determined to go. Never any restrictions.

Cindy
Title: Re: Swimsuit problem
Post by: Berliegh on April 09, 2008, 05:36:23 AM
I would have no hesitation in doing it and go out in a bikini but unfortunitely I would probably look the same as the picture. I also haven't been able to grow any reasonable noticable breast size either.
Title: Re: Swimsuit problem
Post by: Melissa on April 15, 2008, 01:52:06 PM
Quote from: Berliegh on April 08, 2008, 05:11:59 AM
...what I meant was I would prefer to not use artificial padding under a swimsuit in the height of summer under close scrutiny....just my personal choice...

Yeah, I understand.  For me I don't like using all of that because a. it's uncomfortable and b. it's much easier not having to deal with all of that stuff.  My swimsuit itself is a little short in torso height, so it does all of the work of holding things in place.  Additionally, if things do come untucked, because it doesn't get erect anymore, it just kind of all squishes flat.

I think many TS lack self confidence (and understandably so), they think the lower area needs to be perfect, but it doesn't.  I used to be the same way and did the panties and even used tape, but now I wear tight clothes in front of other people all the time without additional aids between swimming and ballet and even changing clothes in front of other women for theatre.  Unless you have some kind of big erection, you'll do fine.
Title: Re: Swimsuit problem
Post by: soldierjane on April 15, 2008, 02:00:23 PM
Quote from: Melissa on April 15, 2008, 01:52:06 PM
Quote from: Berliegh on April 08, 2008, 05:11:59 AM
...what I meant was I would prefer to not use artificial padding under a swimsuit in the height of summer under close scrutiny....just my personal choice...

Yeah, I understand.  For me I don't like using all of that because a. it's uncomfortable and b. it's much easier not having to deal with all of that stuff.  My swimsuit itself is a little short in torso height, so it does all of the work of holding things in place.  Additionally, if things do come untucked, because it doesn't get erect anymore, it just kind of all squishes flat.

I think many TS lack self confidence (and understandably so), they think the lower area needs to be perfect, but it doesn't.  I used to be the same way and did the panties and even used tape, but now I wear tight clothes in front of other people all the time without additional aids between swimming and ballet and even changing clothes in front of other women for theatre.  Unless you have some kind of big erection, you'll do fine.


ROFL and anyway, whoever's checking out your crotch is sick.
Title: Re: Swimsuit problem
Post by: Melissa on April 15, 2008, 02:11:34 PM
I can just imagine some guy talking to a TS like that.  He's standing there chatting...eyes fixated on the boobies...and suddenly you see his gaze shift a little lower and a look of horror cross his face.
Title: Re: Swimsuit problem
Post by: lady amarant on April 15, 2008, 03:54:41 PM
Quote from: Melissa on April 15, 2008, 02:11:34 PM
I can just imagine some guy talking to a TS like that.  He's standing there chatting...eyes fixated on the boobies...and suddenly you see his gaze shift a little lower and a look of horror cross his face.

And he runs screaming from the room ... and runs smack into a wall, since he was looking behind him instead of ahead of him.

There is some justice in this world after all.  ;D

~Simone.
Title: Re: Swimsuit problem
Post by: Ms Jessica on April 15, 2008, 05:10:56 PM
Quote from: lady amarant on April 15, 2008, 03:54:41 PM
Quote from: Melissa on April 15, 2008, 02:11:34 PM
I can just imagine some guy talking to a TS like that.  He's standing there chatting...eyes fixated on the boobies...and suddenly you see his gaze shift a little lower and a look of horror cross his face.

And he runs screaming from the room ... and runs smack into a wall, since he was looking behind him instead of ahead of him.

There is some justice in this world after all.  ;D

~Simone.
ROTFL  :D :D :D

Title: Re: Swimsuit problem
Post by: Nigella on April 20, 2008, 10:59:04 AM
I have just been on holiday and wanted to swim so I bought a one piece swimsuit. I tried on a few in a shop back home so I could see which suited me best. While on holiday I went to the pool and was not confronted or questioned at all. Lots of people swimming with families and plenty of smiles.

This was a first for me and all went well. I think it is finding one that suits your figure best and maybe its trial and error with trying them on in the shop first. I did not wear anything underneath apart from tucking myself in with some lycra knickers that seems to work for me.

hugs

Nigella

Title: Re: Swimsuit problem
Post by: tekla on April 20, 2008, 11:04:00 AM
I've had to give up all worries of this, mostly I go to nude beaches.
Title: Re: Swimsuit problem
Post by: Nigella on April 20, 2008, 12:53:10 PM
Quote from: tekla on April 20, 2008, 11:04:00 AM
I've had to give up all worries of this, mostly I go to nude beaches.


Cool tekla,

I would scare people off, lol.

hugs

Nigella
Title: Re: Swimsuit problem
Post by: tekla on April 20, 2008, 01:27:36 PM
Nah, as it turns out, all the people on nude beaches are exactly the ones you don't want to see naked, and none of the ones you really want to see naked show up.
Title: Re: Swimsuit problem
Post by: Just Mandy on April 20, 2008, 06:41:15 PM
QuoteNah, as it turns out, all the people on nude beaches are exactly the ones you don't want to see naked, and none of the ones you really want to see naked show up.

I've never been to a nude beach (nor could I ever... I don't even go nude in my house lol) but I always
assumed that this was the case. Thanks for confirming it LOL :)

I have to ask though... you are post-op right ???? LOL

Amanda
Title: Re: Swimsuit problem
Post by: tekla on April 20, 2008, 07:51:09 PM
Knock on wood, I'm 53, never had any operation, never been in a hospital except to visit (and to be born) and never taken a drug except for recreation. 

But since most of the nude beaches here are 90% gay men, I figure I can wear my bikini and no one cares.  Though it did lead my GF to tell me I was the only person who could dress incorrectly on a nude beach.
Title: Re: Swimsuit problem
Post by: Just Mandy on April 20, 2008, 08:18:37 PM
LOL... I see... I assumed you were doing as the natives.... I could only
imagine the looks if you were on HRT and nude :)

Amanda
Title: Re: Swimsuit problem
Post by: tekla on April 20, 2008, 10:15:56 PM
I imagine not much, people here are pretty hard to faze.  And its SF, so yeah, its a nude beach, on the coldest bit of real estate this side of Point Barrow.  So yeah, you can go nude, but bring a 3 season sleeping bag and arctic parka, just in case.
Title: Re: Swimsuit problem
Post by: Keira on April 20, 2008, 10:40:36 PM

The water in SFO is so damn cold (actually all california water are cold, there's a cold
current going up the cost all the way to alaska), that nobody really goes in the water
for any length of time if ever. People go to the beach to be seen, its a social occasion.
Title: Re: Swimsuit problem
Post by: tekla on April 20, 2008, 11:08:58 PM
Well its a lot warmer down south,  LOTS warmer.  But its frigid here.  You have hypothermia inside of a few minutes without a wet suit on.  Surfers go in the water, but only in wet suits, same with the windsurfers.  And if you really want to swim, there is the Bay down at the park, which is nice, sheltered - but still cold.  However you get to swim around old sailing ships, so that's kind of cool.  And there are people there swimming all the time.  But really, its Cali, and in SF there are few pools, everywhere else, there are tons.  My northern apartment has a year round heated pool, and two six person hot tub/spa things, and I go the Russian River a couple times a summer, so there is the option.

The real problem at most beaches up north is the rip-currents, undertows and sleeper waves.  We have quite a few people drown every year.  They get caught in the current and get washed out to sea.
Title: Re: Swimsuit problem
Post by: Berliegh on April 21, 2008, 05:16:20 AM
We've still got Winter here in the U.K and it's pretty cold. Last week it snowed in some parts of the country..
Title: Re: Swimsuit problem
Post by: Terra on April 21, 2008, 06:06:46 AM
Um, so how do you girls navigate the locker room problem? This is probably my biggest problem besides being able to wear a swimsuit.
Title: Re: Swimsuit problem
Post by: Nigella on April 21, 2008, 10:09:39 AM
Quote from: Angel on April 21, 2008, 06:06:46 AM
Um, so how do you girls navigate the locker room problem? This is probably my biggest problem besides being able to wear a swimsuit.


Hi Angel,

If they have taken your money at the front desk (swimming pool) then you passed. In the UK we have changing cubicles in the locker rooms so no problem.  I just get my locker and key, change in the cubicle and then go for the swim, get back from the swim and into the shower cubicle with door (locked).

hugs

Nigella 
Title: Re: Swimsuit problem
Post by: Berliegh on April 21, 2008, 11:09:24 AM
Quote from: Nigella on April 21, 2008, 10:09:39 AM
Quote from: Angel on April 21, 2008, 06:06:46 AM
Um, so how do you girls navigate the locker room problem? This is probably my biggest problem besides being able to wear a swimsuit.


Hi Angel,

If they have taken your money at the front desk (swimming pool) then you passed. In the UK we have changing cubicles in the locker rooms so no problem.  I just get my locker and key, change in the cubicle and then go for the swim, get back from the swim and into the shower cubicle with door (locked).

hugs

Nigella 

Yea, but what about on the beach?
Title: Re: Swimsuit problem
Post by: kirakero on April 21, 2008, 01:28:00 PM
I am fond of wandering around the house half or fully naked o..o  Maybe later this summer I will drag some friends to go skinny dipping with hehe.  (... Need to find a few cute girls around my age first that would be okay with that...)

I haven't been swimming for over two years now (which overlaps my transition and the time since then).  I am quite excited to get back in the water, however I have known that I would be uncomfortable about swimming until after SRS.  I imagine other people would mind my icky pieces more then I do o..o
Title: Re: Swimsuit problem
Post by: Berliegh on April 21, 2008, 02:09:31 PM
Quote from: kirakero on April 21, 2008, 01:28:00 PM
I am fond of wandering around the house half or fully naked o..o  Maybe later this summer I will drag some friends to go skinny dipping with hehe.  (... Need to find a few cute girls around my age first that would be okay with that...)

I haven't been swimming for over two years now (which overlaps my transition and the time since then).  I am quite excited to get back in the water, however I have known that I would be uncomfortable about swimming until after SRS.  I imagine other people would mind my icky pieces more then I do o..o

To be honest kirakero, if most looked like you they wouldn't have any worries
Title: Re: Swimsuit problem
Post by: Nigella on April 21, 2008, 02:32:20 PM



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Yea, but what about on the beach?
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Beach towel Berliegh.

hugs

Nigella
Title: Re: Swimsuit problem
Post by: kirakero on April 21, 2008, 03:05:41 PM
Quote from: Berliegh on April 21, 2008, 02:09:31 PM
To be honest kirakero, if most looked like you they wouldn't have any worries

Berliegh: I appreciate your sentiments, though it doesn't change the fact I am quite self-conscious about the bulge down below...  I can wear a skirt just fine (I tuck 24/7), and my breasts are substantial enough that I don't wear a padded bra, but I find that there is too much material down below to hide in a bathing suit.  Ultimately I want to be able to enjoy the water and not be thinking about my body.  I am a water lover, but I can wait another couple months.
Title: Re: Swimsuit problem
Post by: cindybc on April 21, 2008, 03:31:52 PM
Hi Kirakero, congrats hon, it appears your will be enjoying the beach before the end of the summer. I pray all goes well and that your new life be full and happy.

I never stopped going to the beach, I love the beach but then when I still had something there there was not much to hide anyway. I haven't went to the beach for the last couple of years though. Either the water and the air has got colder or old age is creeping in. But some still think I'm in my forties, "Hee, hee, hee." I ain't going to disabuse them of that notion.  As for dressing for the beach I always put my bathing suit on first then my outside clothes over it.

Cindy
Title: Re: Swimsuit problem
Post by: Terra on April 21, 2008, 09:19:47 PM
Quote from: Nigella on April 21, 2008, 10:09:39 AM
Quote from: Angel on April 21, 2008, 06:06:46 AM
Um, so how do you girls navigate the locker room problem? This is probably my biggest problem besides being able to wear a swimsuit.


Hi Angel,

If they have taken your money at the front desk (swimming pool) then you passed. In the UK we have changing cubicles in the locker rooms so no problem.  I just get my locker and key, change in the cubicle and then go for the swim, get back from the swim and into the shower cubicle with door (locked).

hugs

Nigella 

Sorry, I should have been more specific. This pool (only one I know of in town) is the university's gym pool. To get to it or any of the gym you have to pass through first either the men's or women's locker room.

I'm really nervous to even try. I may pass, but the swimsuits that women wear wouldn't be to forgiving if something should 'slip'. I can't think of a worse way to be outed personally.  :embarrassed:
Title: Re: Swimsuit problem
Post by: lady amarant on April 22, 2008, 08:28:14 AM
Quote from: Angel on April 21, 2008, 09:19:47 PM
I'm really nervous to even try. I may pass, but the swimsuits that women wear wouldn't be to forgiving if something should 'slip'. I can't think of a worse way to be outed personally.  :embarrassed:

I agree. That would be just about the worst way I can imagine, apart from the old TV/Movie thing where all your clothes get torn off by a randomly passing uber-vacuum-cleaner.

~Simone.
Title: Re: Swimsuit problem
Post by: Nigella on April 22, 2008, 01:18:13 PM
Quote from: Angel on April 21, 2008, 09:19:47 PM
Quote from: Nigella on April 21, 2008, 10:09:39 AM
Quote from: Angel on April 21, 2008, 06:06:46 AM
Um, so how do you girls navigate the locker room problem? This is probably my biggest problem besides being able to wear a swimsuit.


Hi Angel,

If they have taken your money at the front desk (swimming pool) then you passed. In the UK we have changing cubicles in the locker rooms so no problem.  I just get my locker and key, change in the cubicle and then go for the swim, get back from the swim and into the shower cubicle with door (locked).

hugs

Nigella 

Sorry, I should have been more specific. This pool (only one I know of in town) is the university's gym pool. To get to it or any of the gym you have to pass through first either the men's or women's locker room.

I'm really nervous to even try. I may pass, but the swimsuits that women wear wouldn't be to forgiving if something should 'slip'. I can't think of a worse way to be outed personally.  :embarrassed:

Hi Angel,

Do you go through the women's locker room first dressed or in swimsuit? If dressed it should not be a problem if you are confident enough. Personally I got to the stage in life where I don't care what they think and thinking that way has given me confidence to push the barriers. I deliberately see how far I can go bit by bit to see if anyone challenges me. Perhaps I shouldn't but its the only way i can see if i pass. Up to now I have had no one say anything. The only thing that happens is a few looks because I think they are not quit sure if I am male or female. Well I can live with that, keep um guessing that's what I say, lol.

The swimming pool was my most recent exploit, lol.

hugs

Nigella
Title: Re: Swimsuit problem
Post by: Terra on April 22, 2008, 07:57:50 PM
Quote from: Nigella on April 22, 2008, 01:18:13 PM
Hi Angel,

Do you go through the women's locker room first dressed or in swimsuit? If dressed it should not be a problem if you are confident enough. Personally I got to the stage in life where I don't care what they think and thinking that way has given me confidence to push the barriers. I deliberately see how far I can go bit by bit to see if anyone challenges me. Perhaps I shouldn't but its the only way i can see if i pass. Up to now I have had no one say anything. The only thing that happens is a few looks because I think they are not quit sure if I am male or female. Well I can live with that, keep um guessing that's what I say, lol.

The swimming pool was my most recent exploit, lol.

hugs

Nigella

I haven't even tried to go in yet, but considering no one bats an eye to me using the woman's room on campus I doubt that going dressed would cause any trouble. My worry is in the actual swimming part. Cold water may cause some *ahem* shrinkage, but swimsuits on girls are rather tight. Even the boyshorts kind.
Title: Re: Swimsuit problem
Post by: tekla on April 22, 2008, 09:06:00 PM
get a swimsuit with a little skirt.  And I see lots of girls these days wearing boys "board shorts" and a bikini top.
Title: Re: Swimsuit problem
Post by: Terra on April 22, 2008, 09:13:21 PM
Quote from: tekla on April 22, 2008, 09:06:00 PM
get a swimsuit with a little skirt.  And I see lots of girls these days wearing boys "board shorts" and a bikini top.

But don't they kind of 'cling' when they get wet?
Title: Re: Swimsuit problem
Post by: tekla on April 22, 2008, 09:28:21 PM
Oh I don't know, I wasn't paying that close of attention, I suppose you could wear something under, but a lot of the girls who are out with skim boards or boogie boards find them far better than the standard bikini bottoms.  Or so it seems.
Title: Re: Swimsuit problem
Post by: Nigella on April 23, 2008, 11:23:46 AM
I just wear tight lycra knickers that keeps things pushed in. God I must be small downstairs,  because nothing goes anywhere except where I put it, lol. If a one piece swimsuit has a pattern on it that works. Mine is a kind of rushed material and not the plain tight Lycra. Nothing shows through and gives me a woman's look down below.

Try several on to see.


hugs

Nigella