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Title: Outing your self at a Job interview
Post by: CarolOzGirl on June 15, 2006, 06:43:38 AM
Post by: CarolOzGirl on June 15, 2006, 06:43:38 AM
Hi everyone.
A friend of mine told me the other day thgat she applyed for new jod and intended to out herself at the interview, I did not offer an opinion but though this was a interesting approach to use.
What do you think?
Love Caroline
A friend of mine told me the other day thgat she applyed for new jod and intended to out herself at the interview, I did not offer an opinion but though this was a interesting approach to use.
What do you think?
Love Caroline
Title: Re: Outing your self at a Job interview
Post by: Dennis on June 15, 2006, 08:11:31 AM
Post by: Dennis on June 15, 2006, 08:11:31 AM
I wouldn't test them at that early stage. I'd wait to get the job, but each to her own approach.
Dennis
Dennis
Title: Re: Outing your self at a Job interview
Post by: Melissa on June 15, 2006, 08:38:40 AM
Post by: Melissa on June 15, 2006, 08:38:40 AM
I would wait until the job was offered so that once your outed, if the offer was rescinded, you have a basis for discrimination. This works especially well if the area you are in has laws to protect you. You could go to a lawyer if it was rescinded then.
Melissa
Melissa
Title: Outing your self at a Job interview
Post by: Chynna on June 15, 2006, 10:05:14 AM
Post by: Chynna on June 15, 2006, 10:05:14 AM
I could see myself doing that very same thing oh wait I already did.
We all know the downside to that one...but the up side is that as long has that person interviewing is open minded & non judgemental ( and even if there not) You can't help but to respect an individual who is totally up front and honest with you even if you do totally disagree with them or have convictions of what they stand for....
It may cost you a job and it may even be that extra advantage that makes the employeer pick you over the other canidate.
FYI I have gotten many career offers because I was just that Open and honest.
and they admired and respected that
and really who wants to work for someone thats going to potential terminate you simply for being who you are so I say tell them up front if you want too. and if thats a basis for them declining you a job offer then " screw em!" your probably better off working for someone who wont care what or who you are as long has you get the job done.
When I decided to transition to "fulltime" I fully prepared myself for the possibility of having to work at a job that I considered "Below my education and standards"
Realistically, I didn't go thru 6yrs of college to working fries @ McDonalds for 6.25 an hr.
but hey A job is a job no matter how small and if sacrificing income to be who and what I am was neccessary then I was prepared to make that sacrifice. Hence tell an employeer upfront I'm a Transsexual
But thats just my take and you all know im anything but "Normal"
**Unless were talking about a 6 figure job than im whatever you want me to be sir!LOL
Prodia cost moonaay***
Corporate Conforming 9-5 for Currency
Chynna
We all know the downside to that one...but the up side is that as long has that person interviewing is open minded & non judgemental ( and even if there not) You can't help but to respect an individual who is totally up front and honest with you even if you do totally disagree with them or have convictions of what they stand for....
It may cost you a job and it may even be that extra advantage that makes the employeer pick you over the other canidate.
FYI I have gotten many career offers because I was just that Open and honest.
and they admired and respected that
and really who wants to work for someone thats going to potential terminate you simply for being who you are so I say tell them up front if you want too. and if thats a basis for them declining you a job offer then " screw em!" your probably better off working for someone who wont care what or who you are as long has you get the job done.
When I decided to transition to "fulltime" I fully prepared myself for the possibility of having to work at a job that I considered "Below my education and standards"
Realistically, I didn't go thru 6yrs of college to working fries @ McDonalds for 6.25 an hr.
but hey A job is a job no matter how small and if sacrificing income to be who and what I am was neccessary then I was prepared to make that sacrifice. Hence tell an employeer upfront I'm a Transsexual
But thats just my take and you all know im anything but "Normal"
**Unless were talking about a 6 figure job than im whatever you want me to be sir!LOL
Prodia cost moonaay***
Corporate Conforming 9-5 for Currency
Chynna
Title: Re: Outing your self at a Job interview
Post by: Annie Social on June 15, 2006, 07:11:30 PM
Post by: Annie Social on June 15, 2006, 07:11:30 PM
That's exactly what I did, and intend to do the next time, as well. My feeling is that I'd rather have an offer that is made with full knowledge of my situation; otherwise I feel I'd be running the risk of giving them the impression that I had tried to deceive them.
There's also the matter of no one being 100% passable; if you're read during the interview and don't mention your status, you again run the risk of leaving them feeling that you were hiding it.
That's my take on it, anyway.
Annie
There's also the matter of no one being 100% passable; if you're read during the interview and don't mention your status, you again run the risk of leaving them feeling that you were hiding it.
That's my take on it, anyway.
Annie
Title: Re: Outing your self at a Job interview
Post by: heatherrose on June 16, 2006, 04:04:12 AM
Post by: heatherrose on June 16, 2006, 04:04:12 AM
At present, this question is a reality in my life, not just something to ponder. I'm in pretty dire sraights, so having spent the last six months fulltime do I revert back to get the job or do I go balls to the wall and present as I have been. I'll keep y'all informed.
Title: Re: Outing your self at a Job interview
Post by: stephanie_craxford on June 16, 2006, 05:51:08 AM
Post by: stephanie_craxford on June 16, 2006, 05:51:08 AM
I guess to a large degree this could depend on how out you are or if you are in transition/going full time. Now I'm not how it works in Australia Carol, or in the US, but in Canada employers are prevented by law from asking questions such as are you, or or do you plan to become pregnant. An employer would want to know this for obvious reasons. The applicant can divulge this info if she wants to but she is not compelled to.
I believe that before anyone in our position applies for a job that they should do some investigation before hand, find out what their policies are on discrimination, and benefits, is it an open company, has there been other applicants who have gone before, and were successful etc. then make a decision from there. I know that some of the info may not be available but it's worth a try as you have nothing to loose.
If you feel the company would discriminate against you then I would advise that this company would not make a great employer and should be avoided, as what would be the point in withholding that you are TS and plan to transition if you know that the company doesn't have a great track record, and would make you miserable.
Personally, I would do my homework, find a company that does things right, and be open and up front. If you added that being TS would not interfere with your employment and it would enhance your performance, making you a better employee I think the right employer would hire you, provided that you met all the other requirements.
In the end it all comes down to the interviewer(s) and how they personally feel. Regardless of company policy you may be discriminated against and you wouldn't know it, and not just for being TS, you can be discriminated because you are male or female, your skin colour, because you are overweight, you have one leg...
Steph
I believe that before anyone in our position applies for a job that they should do some investigation before hand, find out what their policies are on discrimination, and benefits, is it an open company, has there been other applicants who have gone before, and were successful etc. then make a decision from there. I know that some of the info may not be available but it's worth a try as you have nothing to loose.
If you feel the company would discriminate against you then I would advise that this company would not make a great employer and should be avoided, as what would be the point in withholding that you are TS and plan to transition if you know that the company doesn't have a great track record, and would make you miserable.
Personally, I would do my homework, find a company that does things right, and be open and up front. If you added that being TS would not interfere with your employment and it would enhance your performance, making you a better employee I think the right employer would hire you, provided that you met all the other requirements.
In the end it all comes down to the interviewer(s) and how they personally feel. Regardless of company policy you may be discriminated against and you wouldn't know it, and not just for being TS, you can be discriminated because you are male or female, your skin colour, because you are overweight, you have one leg...
Steph
Title: Re: Outing your self at a Job interview
Post by: CarolOzGirl on June 18, 2006, 12:08:23 AM
Post by: CarolOzGirl on June 18, 2006, 12:08:23 AM
Hi Steph
Thanks for your comments some in depthy reasearch never would be out of place. In 1996 the NSW State Government pass as part of the Anti Descrimination Act laws applicable to transgender people, there were updated again in 1999, and are currently be worked on to improve things.
To that end those of us who live in NSW are lucky.
Love
Caroline
Thanks for your comments some in depthy reasearch never would be out of place. In 1996 the NSW State Government pass as part of the Anti Descrimination Act laws applicable to transgender people, there were updated again in 1999, and are currently be worked on to improve things.
To that end those of us who live in NSW are lucky.
Love
Caroline