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Title: Sexual orientation
Post by: pamshaw on May 18, 2008, 05:17:20 PM
Post by: pamshaw on May 18, 2008, 05:17:20 PM
I have known that I was a woman inside for many years and after 4 years of thearpy I have have accepted who I am. I have been approved for HRT and my electrolsis is going well. I am 5' 7" 135 Lbs and pass pertty well. I love all thing feminine and feel wonderful and relaxed when dressed as a woman; fortunately I am hairless and small boned. I am completely attracted to women and have never had any desire to be with a man. I was out of town a few weeks ago and while I was dressed I ran into a preop MTF transexxual. She was totally feminine and very beautiful. After a few glasses of wine she asked if I would like to come to her place. Well you can guess what happened. We had a full sexual relationship and I thoroughly enjoyed it. Letting myself be totally submissive made me feel wonderfully feminine. A few days later I tried to see if I was attracted to a man and was not in the least. I am struggling with my orientation; and help?
Pam
Pam
Title: Re: Sexual orientation
Post by: Nero on May 18, 2008, 06:20:05 PM
Post by: Nero on May 18, 2008, 06:20:05 PM
Good evening, Pam.
I assume you are struggling with coming to terms with being a lesbian? Since you are not interested in men.
I assume you are struggling with coming to terms with being a lesbian? Since you are not interested in men.
Title: Re: Sexual orientation
Post by: mickiejr1815 on May 19, 2008, 12:16:29 PM
Post by: mickiejr1815 on May 19, 2008, 12:16:29 PM
Pam, i just found your thread. Welcome by the way. I, too identify as a woman, unfortunately i am still waiting for my therapy and hormones.I, too do not find men attractive either. i do identify as a lesbian woman. enjoy yourself for who you are, if you love each other it doesnt matter. identify as what you want to, when you want to. enjoy bein you with who you're with. all that really matters is that you love each other, nobody should give a crap what your sexual orientation is, because you know everybody's something and you will figure it out. but whatever you choose to be, enjoy it and welcome to Susan's any questions we are all here for you. feel free to pm whenever i'll respond as soon as i get it.
Warrior Princess,
Mickie
Warrior Princess,
Mickie
Title: Re: Sexual orientation
Post by: gina on May 19, 2008, 01:27:20 PM
Post by: gina on May 19, 2008, 01:27:20 PM
Hi Pam, I understand your concern but even though its a smaller group of MtF lesbian's to what would be considered the norm (if there is such a thing) in this case (wanting a man) there is enough of us around. Yes I said us, I'm one also ;) I know exactly how you feel its hard enough being MtF and then having another issue to deal with, but please remember you are not alone. I'm here if you ever need to talk. :)
gina
gina
Title: Re: Sexual orientation
Post by: Godot on May 23, 2008, 05:02:48 AM
Post by: Godot on May 23, 2008, 05:02:48 AM
You sound like you may be lesbian. If you're not too attracted to men then you would probably identify as lesbian. Hope things get better and you can find out who you are.
Title: Re: Sexual orientation
Post by: mr_marc on May 23, 2008, 05:27:55 AM
Post by: mr_marc on May 23, 2008, 05:27:55 AM
Sounds to me like your a lesbian, always remember though.
Never knock it till you've tried it 8)
Never knock it till you've tried it 8)
Title: Re: Sexual orientation
Post by: Ms Bev on May 24, 2008, 09:49:37 PM
Post by: Ms Bev on May 24, 2008, 09:49:37 PM
I would never expect anyone's orientation to change with hrt, unless, pre-hrt were in denial.
You were attracted to women all this time, and now, you are.....attracted to women, of course. Join the club.
Bev
You were attracted to women all this time, and now, you are.....attracted to women, of course. Join the club.
Bev
Title: Re: Sexual orientation
Post by: Omika on May 25, 2008, 12:42:49 AM
Post by: Omika on May 25, 2008, 12:42:49 AM
You should just sleep with whoever you feel like sleeping with and not sweat the details.
Title: Re: Sexual orientation
Post by: const on May 26, 2008, 01:10:22 AM
Post by: const on May 26, 2008, 01:10:22 AM
As a possible candidate for being a male to female transsexual, I'm largely attracted to women. But there is an exception to my attraction. If the man is a nice guy and looks girlish or androgynous, I'd get ->-bleeped-<-ed by him that is if he considers me beautiful enough. Of course, I'm not beautiful at all at the moment; still, if I did... Essentially, whatever the sexual orientation, there isn't anything wrong with it. Being yourself is much more important than trying to follow some rule. I hope I have helped.
Title: Re: Sexual orientation
Post by: pamshaw on May 26, 2008, 01:39:01 PM
Post by: pamshaw on May 26, 2008, 01:39:01 PM
Thanks for all the wonderful input. Your support is very helpful during this difficult journey. I will accept myself as I am which is a woman who is attracted to women and pre op transsexuals. I had another encounter which I enjoyed very much playing the submissive female role.
Pam
Pam
Title: Re: Sexual orientation
Post by: Nero on May 26, 2008, 04:20:17 PM
Post by: Nero on May 26, 2008, 04:20:17 PM
Quote from: polymorphic on May 26, 2008, 01:10:22 AM
As a possible candidate for being a male to female transsexual, I'm largely attracted to women. But there is an exception to my attraction. If the man is a nice guy and looks girlish or androgynous, I'd get ->-bleeped-<-ed by him that is if he considers me beautiful enough. Of course, I'm not beautiful at all at the moment; still, if I did... Essentially, whatever the sexual orientation, there isn't anything wrong with it. Being yourself is much more important than trying to follow some rule. I hope I have helped.
Aww beauty is in the eye of the beholder, love. Bet loads of guys and gals find you beautiful.
Title: Re: Sexual orientation
Post by: rondagaus on June 18, 2008, 08:07:32 PM
Post by: rondagaus on June 18, 2008, 08:07:32 PM
I thought I was a lesbian once upon a time. Then I met a man that made me feel like the woman I am.
I thin I am bi but who really knows? It will all work its way out.
Good luck to you,
Ronda
I thin I am bi but who really knows? It will all work its way out.
Good luck to you,
Ronda
Title: Re: Sexual orientation
Post by: MCMCyn on June 19, 2008, 06:57:07 AM
Post by: MCMCyn on June 19, 2008, 06:57:07 AM
I'm post op and I consider myself a lesbian. I do have friends who orientation did change with the HRT, but so far it has had no effect on me.
Funny thing is, I have a friend whom is an Orthodox priest. Despite his religion, he has fully accepted my transformation. BUT he does not accept the fact that I'm attracted to women and feels I should find a nice guy and settle down. :laugh:
Funny thing is, I have a friend whom is an Orthodox priest. Despite his religion, he has fully accepted my transformation. BUT he does not accept the fact that I'm attracted to women and feels I should find a nice guy and settle down. :laugh:
Title: Re: Sexual orientation
Post by: Katelynne on June 20, 2008, 06:18:40 PM
Post by: Katelynne on June 20, 2008, 06:18:40 PM
i think that sexual attraction is more about traits than it is about gender. sexuality is fluid not concrete so it leaves room for you to be attracted to whomever posses the most traits that you find desireable.
getting the "job done" so to speak can be accomplished by a man or a woman, it matters who can get you to that point.
getting the "job done" so to speak can be accomplished by a man or a woman, it matters who can get you to that point.
Title: Re: Sexual orientation
Post by: Mnemosyne on June 20, 2008, 07:37:25 PM
Post by: Mnemosyne on June 20, 2008, 07:37:25 PM
Hmmm, I do not think that I was in denial before HRT. For the longest time I only dated women and then I would not date anyone. I did not trust men at all. I had a few male friends, very few. My change happened when I became involved in the BDSM scene. I ended up accepting the guiding hand of a very nice gentleman who worked with me on my trust issues. After that I became involved with another guy in the lifestyle and fell for him, head over heels. Today I have a male Dominant that I see and also another really nice guy who is attracted to me and is also my GF's primary.
Ten years ago when I started all this I would have run away at the mention of things like leather, BDSM, and polyamorous. Now that I am relaxed and just into my own thing though I have found that I am receptive to new ideas and so far it has really worked out for me. I look back at the old me from just a few years ago and shake my head. Way too stressed about trivial stuff and way too uptight for my own good.
However, to each their own. Happiness is what counts.
Ten years ago when I started all this I would have run away at the mention of things like leather, BDSM, and polyamorous. Now that I am relaxed and just into my own thing though I have found that I am receptive to new ideas and so far it has really worked out for me. I look back at the old me from just a few years ago and shake my head. Way too stressed about trivial stuff and way too uptight for my own good.
However, to each their own. Happiness is what counts.
Title: Re: Sexual orientation
Post by: Yip on June 21, 2008, 06:19:01 AM
Post by: Yip on June 21, 2008, 06:19:01 AM
This is a question I've been wondering about, I like girls If I ever get to do my dream
I dont see that changing. But if the day ever came as a girl myself frankly I'm attracted
to the thought of at least trying it once. From my current viewpoint
it seems to be alot more fun frankly, Or is not having that much fun just a symptom of GID when its not
the way you feel it should be??.. anyway I really think its just one more grievance to my list
of things I hate nature for.
Anyway if you enjoyed it then what's wrong with that?.
I dont see that changing. But if the day ever came as a girl myself frankly I'm attracted
to the thought of at least trying it once. From my current viewpoint
it seems to be alot more fun frankly, Or is not having that much fun just a symptom of GID when its not
the way you feel it should be??.. anyway I really think its just one more grievance to my list
of things I hate nature for.
Anyway if you enjoyed it then what's wrong with that?.
Title: Re: Sexual orientation
Post by: Chrissty on June 23, 2008, 04:34:50 AM
Post by: Chrissty on June 23, 2008, 04:34:50 AM
I used to think I was only attracted to women, and that my drive has been more about a longing to be part of a gender group that I felt much more comfotable with.
However, lately I have found that I have become more curious and find I am spending more time looking at sexy guys and wondering what-if...
However, lately I have found that I have become more curious and find I am spending more time looking at sexy guys and wondering what-if...
Title: Re: Sexual orientation
Post by: Sonia Keys on June 23, 2008, 08:28:54 AM
Post by: Sonia Keys on June 23, 2008, 08:28:54 AM
Quote from: Katelynne on June 20, 2008, 06:18:40 PM
i think that sexual attraction is more about traits than it is about gender. sexuality is fluid not concrete so it leaves room for you to be attracted to whomever posses the most traits that you find desireable.
getting the "job done" so to speak can be accomplished by a man or a woman, it matters who can get you to that point.
Katelynne is on to something here. Sexual attraction isn't just binary choice. It's a choice of which male things or female things you are attracted to. Does a woman's figure turn your head? Her face? Clothes, shoes, movement? Interestests, personality, emotions, mind? Or....if it's what's inside the pants, there's no shame in going with what you like and what you don't! Maybe you want a certain visible social role, like "being straight" or "being lesbian." If that is what you feel strongly, then that's ok too.
I think our sexuality can change over time too. Certainly as grow and discover ourselves, but for those of us who move along any sort of transition, we change, and sexuality is often part of that.
Sonia
Title: Re: Sexual orientation
Post by: Sly on June 23, 2008, 11:22:01 PM
Post by: Sly on June 23, 2008, 11:22:01 PM
Quote from: pamshaw on May 18, 2008, 05:17:20 PMYou took the words right out of my mouth. I am 5' 6" and 120lbs. I have always had a girl friend as a man, but frustrated. I would always wear their clothes when home alone, and kept my clothes in the attic when in a relationship. I tried a man four times and did not like it. Now that I finally resolved myself to being a woman(I have been dressing since age 5) and tired of the closet, I realize that I am a lesbian. I have enjoyed a pre-op women but have not met a biological woman for dating yet. I am 34-28-35 and am now taking HRT.
I have known that I was a woman inside for many years and after 4 years of thearpy I have have accepted who I am. I have been approved for HRT and my electrolsis is going well. I am 5' 7" 135 Lbs and pass pertty well. I love all thing feminine and feel wonderful and relaxed when dressed as a woman; fortunately I am hairless and small boned. I am completely attracted to women and have never had any desire to be with a man. I was out of town a few weeks ago and while I was dressed I ran into a preop MTF transexxual. She was totally feminine and very beautiful. After a few glasses of wine she asked if I would like to come to her place. Well you can guess what happened. We had a full sexual relationship and I thoroughly enjoyed it. Letting myself be totally submissive made me feel wonderfully feminine. A few days later I tried to see if I was attracted to a man and was not in the least. I am struggling with my orientation; and help?
Pam
Title: Re: Sexual orientation
Post by: Godot on June 24, 2008, 11:54:57 PM
Post by: Godot on June 24, 2008, 11:54:57 PM
I'm not on any kind of hormones but I still consider myself bi (leaning towards attraction to men so would that consider me a gay guy?) I don't think if I ever had the chance to transition completely would I be aattracted to anyone else..maybe I don't know though.
Title: Re: Sexual orientation
Post by: Alex on June 25, 2008, 05:52:09 AM
Post by: Alex on June 25, 2008, 05:52:09 AM
This is getting to be a common theme in my posts but I have to say it. If looking at men doesn't excite you it doesn't necessarily mean you're not attracted to them. Try letting a guy run his hands over you then decide if you're attracted to them or not :p
Title: Re: Sexual orientation
Post by: Godot on June 25, 2008, 08:44:16 PM
Post by: Godot on June 25, 2008, 08:44:16 PM
Quote from: Alex on June 25, 2008, 05:52:09 AM
This is getting to be a common theme in my posts but I have to say it. If looking at men doesn't excite you it doesn't necessarily mean you're not attracted to them. Try letting a guy run his hands over you then decide if you're attracted to them or not :p
I've had fantasies and dreams of a guy doing that (never a real life guy..just a male game or movie character) ok I'm gay :icon_eek: