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Title: what happens after death?
Post by: Princess on May 30, 2008, 08:13:19 PM
Post by: Princess on May 30, 2008, 08:13:19 PM
i wonder what will become of me after i die. i kind of believe in reincarnation. maybe i have had previous lives that i don't remember. if there is such thing as reincarnation, i won't have to be trapped in a transgender body forever. i could just do my best to pass as a female in this life, because it wouldn't be until the end of time. it's a mystery that i wonder. i think there always has to be a part of you somewhere that has a brain or one of the five senses.
Title: Re: what happens after death?
Post by: tinkerbell on May 30, 2008, 08:24:25 PM
Post by: tinkerbell on May 30, 2008, 08:24:25 PM
Quote from: Princess on May 30, 2008, 08:13:19 PM
what happens after death?
You cross rainbow bridge... :)
tink :icon_chick:
Title: Re: what happens after death?
Post by: tekla on May 30, 2008, 08:29:51 PM
Post by: tekla on May 30, 2008, 08:29:51 PM
Sooner or later you are going to find out. Why rush it?
Title: Re: what happens after death?
Post by: Elwood on May 30, 2008, 08:34:21 PM
Post by: Elwood on May 30, 2008, 08:34:21 PM
Your body decomposes and the minerals return to the Earth. A recycling of the building blocks of life. And if you're lucky, grave robbers will steal your bones.
I don't have a religion, but I'm not one of those rude buggers who denies God exists or anything. If there is a God, I simply lack a connection to that God at this time. I don't have a reason to believe in God of a life after death. Why would we call it death if we were to just keep living? I consider death and life two separate planes of reality (except Schrödinger's Cat).
So I think when I die, time stops. No memories. Nothing. I guess that's part of why I think it's okay to take chances and live life on a whim.
I don't have a religion, but I'm not one of those rude buggers who denies God exists or anything. If there is a God, I simply lack a connection to that God at this time. I don't have a reason to believe in God of a life after death. Why would we call it death if we were to just keep living? I consider death and life two separate planes of reality (except Schrödinger's Cat).
So I think when I die, time stops. No memories. Nothing. I guess that's part of why I think it's okay to take chances and live life on a whim.
Title: Re: what happens after death?
Post by: Nero on May 30, 2008, 08:42:03 PM
Post by: Nero on May 30, 2008, 08:42:03 PM
Love Tekla's answer.
Nobody really knows, we can just guess. My guess is we go to heaven or become ghosts. I think the heart goes on still in some form. I'm a Christian but i there is a heaven, I hope it's not the version I heard growing up, as standing around praising a god for eternity would get old real fast.
I'm more keen on the Muslim idea of 70 virgins.
Nobody really knows, we can just guess. My guess is we go to heaven or become ghosts. I think the heart goes on still in some form. I'm a Christian but i there is a heaven, I hope it's not the version I heard growing up, as standing around praising a god for eternity would get old real fast.
I'm more keen on the Muslim idea of 70 virgins.
Title: Re: what happens after death?
Post by: tekla on May 30, 2008, 08:44:17 PM
Post by: tekla on May 30, 2008, 08:44:17 PM
It's 72 virgins. It's very specific so people can spend forever saying, "If I said this once, I've said it 72 times, less teeth......."
Title: Re: what happens after death?
Post by: Kimberly on May 30, 2008, 10:07:43 PM
Post by: Kimberly on May 30, 2008, 10:07:43 PM
Quote from: Princess on May 30, 2008, 08:13:19 PM
what happens after death?
I think that depends on what one is really.
Quote from: Princess on May 30, 2008, 08:13:19 PM
i kind of believe in reincarnation.
I have been remembering past lives for quite a long time indeed. In my frame of reference reincarnation is a fact. ... But then again so are some "mythological" things are as well so *shrug*.
Title: Re: what happens after death?
Post by: Suzy on May 30, 2008, 10:28:36 PM
Post by: Suzy on May 30, 2008, 10:28:36 PM
Well I'm not interested in sitting on a cloud plunking a harp. Simply put, death will be the end of suffering, pain, hunger, aging, loneliness, isolation, and fear. I look forward to being reunited with friends and family. At that time, gender will no longer matter, and the time-space continuum will be no more. All of the human-made institutions concerning religiosity will be stripped away and I will know things I can only ponder right now. The truth and the presence of God will not be a foggy theory any more. It will be another dimension of living entirely. There will be new energy, new purpose, and new challenges, and a completely different body in which to accomplish them. I will feel sorry for absolutely nothing I have left behind.
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Title: Re: what happens after death?
Post by: Natasha on May 31, 2008, 12:44:18 AM
Post by: Natasha on May 31, 2008, 12:44:18 AM
first, i agree that it is impossible to tell. though every religion has an explanation. my explanation, which i try to keep based in what we know about the nature of the universe is that there is no life after death.
we are made of matter, the same stuff that makes all of the inanimate objects. we are the chemicals that evolved into the complex machinery that you see in all biological organisms. we are just material and when we die, that complex machinery has failed (why would there need to be a soul in the gears?). i know it may feel like there should be more, but without mixing in human emotion that's what i come up with. consciousness itself is just a kind of illusion, people were never really alive in the sense they thought anyway.
we are made of matter, the same stuff that makes all of the inanimate objects. we are the chemicals that evolved into the complex machinery that you see in all biological organisms. we are just material and when we die, that complex machinery has failed (why would there need to be a soul in the gears?). i know it may feel like there should be more, but without mixing in human emotion that's what i come up with. consciousness itself is just a kind of illusion, people were never really alive in the sense they thought anyway.
Title: Re: what happens after death?
Post by: NicholeW. on May 31, 2008, 12:50:15 AM
Post by: NicholeW. on May 31, 2008, 12:50:15 AM
I haven't a clue. I have some notions though, but those are just notions. Why not live in one world at a time, seems a whole lot less taxing that way.
N~
N~
Title: Re: what happens after death?
Post by: buttercup on May 31, 2008, 12:56:34 AM
Post by: buttercup on May 31, 2008, 12:56:34 AM
what happens after death?
Hopefully a very long and restful sleep. My body is just a vessel, but my spirit, who knows where that will end up? :) ;D
Hopefully a very long and restful sleep. My body is just a vessel, but my spirit, who knows where that will end up? :) ;D
Title: Re: what happens after death?
Post by: Laura91 on May 31, 2008, 03:27:25 AM
Post by: Laura91 on May 31, 2008, 03:27:25 AM
Quote from: Nichole on May 31, 2008, 12:50:15 AM
I haven't a clue. I have some notions though, but those are just notions. Why not live in one world at a time, seems a whole lot less taxing that way.
N~
Exactly. I will find out soon enough (but not TOO soon, I hope).
Title: Re: what happens after death?
Post by: cindybc on May 31, 2008, 04:08:32 AM
Post by: cindybc on May 31, 2008, 04:08:32 AM
I believe that the soul is an energy field that is joined to the living body and provides its life force. When the body can no longer respond to the life-giving force of the soul, death occurs and the soul becomes 100% universal awareness.
Our souls act as a thread which is a tiny part of a net that is the tapestry of universe, binding us all together at the origin point of the multiverses. We are all part of the multi-levels of reality, the Oneness.
Cindy
Our souls act as a thread which is a tiny part of a net that is the tapestry of universe, binding us all together at the origin point of the multiverses. We are all part of the multi-levels of reality, the Oneness.
Cindy
Title: Re: what happens after death?
Post by: Alex on June 03, 2008, 06:56:56 AM
Post by: Alex on June 03, 2008, 06:56:56 AM
I believe I'll join an army of spectral ninjas. On skateboards. Battling dinosaurs. With swords made of lasers.
Seriously though, the afterlife thing seems silly unless you admit all forms of life into the same afterlife. Humans surely can't be special in that regard because we haven't even been around as long as some other forms of life (do beetles get 72 virgin beetles?) The Earth hasn't even been around forever, so when/how did the afterlife come into existence? Is heaven divided or is it shared across all forms of life across the Universe? It makes no sense.
Everything we do has an effect on the world that triggers an infinite chain of events that goes on beyond our death. That's what will happen after I die. Everyone who's posted in this thread has made some form of impact on me now that will last forever and ripple outwards and outwards again, feeding back to me, you and everyone in the world, forever.
I know I'm going to pass on Tekla's joke about the 72 virgins anyway :D Oral sex jokes... a fine legacy!
Seriously though, the afterlife thing seems silly unless you admit all forms of life into the same afterlife. Humans surely can't be special in that regard because we haven't even been around as long as some other forms of life (do beetles get 72 virgin beetles?) The Earth hasn't even been around forever, so when/how did the afterlife come into existence? Is heaven divided or is it shared across all forms of life across the Universe? It makes no sense.
Everything we do has an effect on the world that triggers an infinite chain of events that goes on beyond our death. That's what will happen after I die. Everyone who's posted in this thread has made some form of impact on me now that will last forever and ripple outwards and outwards again, feeding back to me, you and everyone in the world, forever.
I know I'm going to pass on Tekla's joke about the 72 virgins anyway :D Oral sex jokes... a fine legacy!
Title: Re: what happens after death?
Post by: Kate on June 03, 2008, 09:26:56 AM
Post by: Kate on June 03, 2008, 09:26:56 AM
Quote from: Nichole on May 31, 2008, 12:50:15 AM
Why not live in one world at a time...
How boring! Never!
I don't do the death thing. Not exactly anyway. It'll catch up to me one day, or maybe I'll stand still finally and let It catch me.
But not yet ;)
~Kate~
Title: Re: what happens after death?
Post by: Janet_Girl on June 03, 2008, 09:37:19 AM
Post by: Janet_Girl on June 03, 2008, 09:37:19 AM
I personally believe in reincarnation.
But I also agree with Tekia.
Love,
Janet
Quote from: tekla on May 30, 2008, 08:29:51 PM
Sooner or later you are going to find out. Why rush it?
But I also agree with Tekia.
Love,
Janet
Title: Re: what happens after death?
Post by: Kt on June 03, 2008, 10:09:43 AM
Post by: Kt on June 03, 2008, 10:09:43 AM
I believe a varity of different fates we have in store for ourselves depending on several factors, our awareness at death (specifically, do we realize when we have died), our spiritual ability and aptlitude (are we capable of building our spirit at death for our conciousness to reside in, and transferring our conciousness from our brain to our spirit), as well as power (are we able to defend ourselves in the afterlife). I don't believe that a living being has a soul or spirit, I think that's something one needs to create when they die. Morals don't matter IMHO.
With that said, I think that most people end up dead dead, with no afterlife, some people are able to sustain themselves after death, some people may possess the body of an unborn child and become reincarnated, some people may go off to other worlds, some may stick around, etc, you get the idea.
With that said, I think that most people end up dead dead, with no afterlife, some people are able to sustain themselves after death, some people may possess the body of an unborn child and become reincarnated, some people may go off to other worlds, some may stick around, etc, you get the idea.
Title: Re: what happens after death?
Post by: cindybc on June 04, 2008, 01:23:41 AM
Post by: cindybc on June 04, 2008, 01:23:41 AM
Thanks Tink. Do I remember this little flick or not.? When you watch this, feel it within your own heart and it will open the door ever so slightly so you can peek through and see this place they call heaven.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_wBcvgukRo
Cindy
Posted on: June 04, 2008, 01:05:42 AM
Hi Kate, no I'm not ready either. When I am I know where the bus station is, where that inter-dimensional Greyhound bus comes to take us home after our mission here is done.
Maybe when we arrive at our destination they will issue us a magic wand so we can create our own reality.
I got me a song in my heart and I want to dance around a couple of galaxies before i leave.
Cindy
Posted on: June 04, 2008, 01:12:05 AM
Hi Alex, may Great Spirit bless. I love how your mind works.
Cindy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_wBcvgukRo
Cindy
Posted on: June 04, 2008, 01:05:42 AM
Hi Kate, no I'm not ready either. When I am I know where the bus station is, where that inter-dimensional Greyhound bus comes to take us home after our mission here is done.
Maybe when we arrive at our destination they will issue us a magic wand so we can create our own reality.
I got me a song in my heart and I want to dance around a couple of galaxies before i leave.
Cindy
Posted on: June 04, 2008, 01:12:05 AM
Hi Alex, may Great Spirit bless. I love how your mind works.
Cindy
Title: Re: what happens after death?
Post by: whatsername on July 04, 2008, 02:17:28 AM
Post by: whatsername on July 04, 2008, 02:17:28 AM
My thoughts are pretty simple, but rather complicated to explain.
The easy version, I believe in reincarnation after a nice nap.
The easy version, I believe in reincarnation after a nice nap.
Title: Re: what happens after death?
Post by: Ell on July 04, 2008, 02:39:59 AM
Post by: Ell on July 04, 2008, 02:39:59 AM
you hope you become a ghost, not roast somewhere desolate, parched and thirsty. wandering the earth on the wind, looking for someplace to park your weary feet, hiding in abandoned buildings, looking out dirty windows onto dead end streets. fading in the sun, materializing again in the gloom, trying hard not to feel like the only spirit in the room.
Title: Re: what happens after death?
Post by: Jeannette on July 04, 2008, 03:02:00 AM
Post by: Jeannette on July 04, 2008, 03:02:00 AM
Quote from: ell on July 04, 2008, 02:39:59 AM
you hope you become a ghost, not roast somewhere desolate, parched and thirsty. wandering the earth on the wind, looking for someplace to park your weary feet, hiding in abandoned buildings, looking out dirty windows onto dead end streets. fading in the sun, materializing again in the gloom, trying hard not to feel like the only spirit in the room.
That was very sad Ell :( I dunno. I presume that the older you get...the less you fear death. I believe that after you die you realise that the one thing you never gave a thought to...is the only thing that really matters.
Title: Re: what happens after death?
Post by: Celia on July 26, 2008, 06:19:08 PM
Post by: Celia on July 26, 2008, 06:19:08 PM
Well, the only ones who could really know . . . ain't postin'. ;)
I can only hope it's better than what precedes it - because that it is a dreadfully tedious exercise in trying to get a sense of a dark room by scanning it with a laser pointer. ::)
I can only hope it's better than what precedes it - because that it is a dreadfully tedious exercise in trying to get a sense of a dark room by scanning it with a laser pointer. ::)
Title: Re: what happens after death?
Post by: Unknown ID on September 08, 2008, 02:29:57 PM
Post by: Unknown ID on September 08, 2008, 02:29:57 PM
I think that I have an answer that nobody posted *smiles*
I believe that when you die, you are truely dead, for a while. And after you die, there is an instant re-awakening, even though in the realm of the living it might have been a century. I believe that this "reserection" (Forgive me if I spelled it wrong) can only happen two times. The first time you are brought back to life, the world will be just as you knew it before, with the exception of all people that have died will be brought back into existance. Then, I believe that god will have a thousand-year judging period to seperate the "grain from the chaft" as I like to say, or (If you don't understand) the good from the evil. During that thousand year judging period, nobody will die from natural causes. However, it is still possible that someone evil may kill you. At the very end of that thousand-year judging period, those that were good but have been killed will come back to a paradise on earth. Those that are good and haven't died will join the previous on the paradise earth. But what will happen to those who were evil during the judging period? They will be sent to ghehenah (I hope I spelled that right) meaning: their soul will go out of them, never to be returned again.
Yup, I think that that pretty much sums up my belief of what happens when you die. I just wanted to share.
PS: I wrote this entire post using an on-screen keyboard. Pretty impressive huh? I really need to get a new keyboard....
I believe that when you die, you are truely dead, for a while. And after you die, there is an instant re-awakening, even though in the realm of the living it might have been a century. I believe that this "reserection" (Forgive me if I spelled it wrong) can only happen two times. The first time you are brought back to life, the world will be just as you knew it before, with the exception of all people that have died will be brought back into existance. Then, I believe that god will have a thousand-year judging period to seperate the "grain from the chaft" as I like to say, or (If you don't understand) the good from the evil. During that thousand year judging period, nobody will die from natural causes. However, it is still possible that someone evil may kill you. At the very end of that thousand-year judging period, those that were good but have been killed will come back to a paradise on earth. Those that are good and haven't died will join the previous on the paradise earth. But what will happen to those who were evil during the judging period? They will be sent to ghehenah (I hope I spelled that right) meaning: their soul will go out of them, never to be returned again.
Yup, I think that that pretty much sums up my belief of what happens when you die. I just wanted to share.
PS: I wrote this entire post using an on-screen keyboard. Pretty impressive huh? I really need to get a new keyboard....
Title: Re: what happens after death?
Post by: sarahb on September 08, 2008, 03:09:59 PM
Post by: sarahb on September 08, 2008, 03:09:59 PM
Quote from: Elwood on May 30, 2008, 08:34:21 PM
Your body decomposes and the minerals return to the Earth. A recycling of the building blocks of life.
Spot on.
What happens after death? You are buried. Enjoy your life while it lasts.
Title: Re: what happens after death?
Post by: Pica Pica on September 08, 2008, 03:32:43 PM
Post by: Pica Pica on September 08, 2008, 03:32:43 PM
what happens after death? ...
... sod all.
... sod all.
Title: Re: what happens after death?
Post by: Nicky on September 08, 2008, 04:06:20 PM
Post by: Nicky on September 08, 2008, 04:06:20 PM
Quote from: Unknown ID on September 08, 2008, 02:29:57 PM
I think that I have an answer that nobody posted *smiles*
I believe that when you die, you are truely dead, for a while. And after you die, there is an instant re-awakening, even though in the realm of the living it might have been a century. I believe that this "reserection" (Forgive me if I spelled it wrong) can only happen two times. The first time you are brought back to life, the world will be just as you knew it before, with the exception of all people that have died will be brought back into existance. Then, I believe that god will have a thousand-year judging period to seperate the "grain from the chaft" as I like to say, or (If you don't understand) the good from the evil. During that thousand year judging period, nobody will die from natural causes. However, it is still possible that someone evil may kill you. At the very end of that thousand-year judging period, those that were good but have been killed will come back to a paradise on earth. Those that are good and haven't died will join the previous on the paradise earth. But what will happen to those who were evil during the judging period? They will be sent to ghehenah (I hope I spelled that right) meaning: their soul will go out of them, never to be returned again.
Yup, I think that that pretty much sums up my belief of what happens when you die. I just wanted to share.
PS: I wrote this entire post using an on-screen keyboard. Pretty impressive huh? I really need to get a new keyboard....
Why would god take a thousand years. The old dude is supposed to be omnipotent. ???
I think all the spirits get together and have tea and biscuits and then decide what life they want to live next. Perhaps we are all the same spirit living different lives all at once (seeing as time does not have to have relevance) - collectively we are god.
Title: Re: what happens after death?
Post by: Kaitlyn on September 08, 2008, 04:55:59 PM
Post by: Kaitlyn on September 08, 2008, 04:55:59 PM
When I die, it's the end of the universe. If I can't experience something, not even indirectly, that's no different than saying it doesn't exist.
I suppose you all might have your own universes, but I'll never know.
I suppose you all might have your own universes, but I'll never know.
Title: Re: what happens after death?
Post by: cindybc on September 09, 2008, 02:10:05 AM
Post by: cindybc on September 09, 2008, 02:10:05 AM
Cindy pats Nicky on the back. This is pretty well what I was trying to say a few posts back.
Before one can even guess where they might go after their body no longer responds to the life force contained in it, one must understand who they are. I believe that we are all minute projections of the Infinite Intelligence, thus making us all parts of the same spirit, living different lives at the same time, or over time (not to be confused with overtime that's time-and-a-half after 40 hours in a week).
Well-spoken, Nicky!
QuotePerhaps we are all the same spirit living different lives all at once (seeing as time does not have to have relevance) - collectively we are god.
Before one can even guess where they might go after their body no longer responds to the life force contained in it, one must understand who they are. I believe that we are all minute projections of the Infinite Intelligence, thus making us all parts of the same spirit, living different lives at the same time, or over time (not to be confused with overtime that's time-and-a-half after 40 hours in a week).
Well-spoken, Nicky!
Title: Re: what happens after death?
Post by: Kimberly on September 09, 2008, 11:12:38 AM
Post by: Kimberly on September 09, 2008, 11:12:38 AM
One can get an interesting twist on this subject if one considers their body in more the context of a car or other vehicle of choice.
This concept might have a bit of scientific backing in that the thought of energy not being destroyed an all.
*shrug*
Enjoy the now, *nods*
This concept might have a bit of scientific backing in that the thought of energy not being destroyed an all.
*shrug*
Enjoy the now, *nods*
Title: Re: what happens after death?
Post by: Sephirah on September 09, 2008, 11:25:09 AM
Post by: Sephirah on September 09, 2008, 11:25:09 AM
Quote from: Kimberly on September 09, 2008, 11:12:38 AM
This concept might have a bit of scientific backing in that the thought of energy not being destroyed an all.
But if you apply that theory to life 'force'/consciousness/sentience/whatever, then you have to also apply the theory that energy can't be created (one of the laws of physics known as 'The conservation of energy')... which would suggest that if we don't 'die', then we aren't 'born', either. At least not in the sense of just popping into existence from nowhere.
Which would suggest, to me at least, that reincarnation is the most likely outcome of physical cessation.
Title: Re: what happens after death?
Post by: Melissa on September 09, 2008, 01:20:11 PM
Post by: Melissa on September 09, 2008, 01:20:11 PM
I'm not sure. I guess I'll see when it happens. For now, I've made a commitment to myself to live my life in a way that will have some benefit to the world using my talents.
Title: Re: what happens after death?
Post by: cindybc on September 09, 2008, 03:27:12 PM
Post by: cindybc on September 09, 2008, 03:27:12 PM
Hi, Melissa, I agree with you. Live to do our best to care for and serve others and to be happy to be who we are. Take advantage of life and cherish it while we're here. I believe that this is for the most part the reason for us to be here to grow and to learn and to love others. There is just no possible way to be able to conceive in our minds what the next reality will be like because we have no way to compare it to this one, it is only an inner feeling of rightness.
Cindy
Cindy
Title: Re: what happens after death?
Post by: Melissa on September 09, 2008, 03:48:08 PM
Post by: Melissa on September 09, 2008, 03:48:08 PM
It's just that I am having many challenges in life from being TS to epilepsy and yet I'm still functioning to the best of my ability. Also, I've pretty much accomplished all my major dreams, so I had to figure out some new dreams and goals. I decided, why not do some good with my time here on earth? I also decided to not try and kill myself anymore (and there have been times I wished I could since then) and to start doing what I could that was within my means. I haven't had much energy for the past several months (which I figure is because of the anti-seizure meds), but during those times I do have a little energy I do make efforts to help out.
Title: Re: what happens after death?
Post by: Nicky on September 09, 2008, 04:09:54 PM
Post by: Nicky on September 09, 2008, 04:09:54 PM
Quote from: cindybc on September 09, 2008, 02:10:05 AMThank you.
Cindy pats Nicky on the back. This is pretty well what I was trying to say a few posts back.QuotePerhaps we are all the same spirit living different lives all at once (seeing as time does not have to have relevance) - collectively we are god.
Before one can even guess where they might go after their body no longer responds to the life force contained in it, one must understand who they are. I believe that we are all minute projections of the Infinite Intelligence, thus making us all parts of the same spirit, living different lives at the same time, or over time (not to be confused with overtime that's time-and-a-half after 40 hours in a week).
Well-spoken, Nicky!
I've been thinking a lot lately that if the spiritual realm exists then what if it is simply another level of energy or the stuff in the spaces between atomic particles that we can't detect yet. It is like a photo negative of the physical world and things can move between physical and spiritual states of being. Perhaps we are all linked by it and it provides the spark. Maybe it can be influenced through thought and faith and prayer. Hence there is the possibility for collective conciousness, the 'divine' presence in everything, psychic powers and the power of prayer...
I need some double time in the weekend including my paid half hour break for every 5 hours worked.
Title: Re: what happens after death?
Post by: cindybc on September 09, 2008, 06:04:22 PM
Post by: cindybc on September 09, 2008, 06:04:22 PM
Hi, Nicky, Yes, quantum realities, quantum realities between atomic particles. If you go even further you will find more space between the atomic and sub-atomic particles. Energy without beginning and without end with only space separating them? But then you will find these spaces are also filled with subatomic particles, ad infinitum. Well, I do know a wee bit about the science of infinite energy, or at least, the theory of infinite energy. Like the gravitational ripples that radiate outward from the universal center where I believe will be found a very large, dense black hole where the entire universe spirals around like a gigantic galaxy. This black hole at the center of our universe is a legacy of the "Big Bang."
Do these gravitational ripples travel both ways, in and out of the black hole, forming two distinct but opposite realities on either side of the black hole? The theory of Parallel universes in collision.
And yes, never forget the power of prayer. I believe that if one sincerely believes in the power of their prayer an intergalactic mountain will move somewhere with this universe.
Cindy
Posted on: September 09, 2008, 05:39:31 PM
Hi Melissa, I can't say I understand what it was like for you except in part. This journey of transitioning is not one of the easiest journeys to undertake even for someone stable physically and psychologicaly, I suppose it realy doesn't hurt to have some type of spiritual beliefs to help one get through it. You have had some extra obstacles to get through, I for one must say that I admire much your courage and strength. As someone else here once expressed,
Hon you can only do what you feel you can do, working for other folks and caring for them is a truly wonderful thing to do but it can take a lot out of you. Do it at your own pace hon, when ever you feel you have the energy to do so, and do it from the heart.
Cindy
Do these gravitational ripples travel both ways, in and out of the black hole, forming two distinct but opposite realities on either side of the black hole? The theory of Parallel universes in collision.
And yes, never forget the power of prayer. I believe that if one sincerely believes in the power of their prayer an intergalactic mountain will move somewhere with this universe.
Cindy
Posted on: September 09, 2008, 05:39:31 PM
Hi Melissa, I can't say I understand what it was like for you except in part. This journey of transitioning is not one of the easiest journeys to undertake even for someone stable physically and psychologicaly, I suppose it realy doesn't hurt to have some type of spiritual beliefs to help one get through it. You have had some extra obstacles to get through, I for one must say that I admire much your courage and strength. As someone else here once expressed,
QuoteI know the answer to this already, but I know that this whole transition is a huge mind blowing event of equal amounts of fear, depression, excitement all flying @ you @ once. Mix in the HRT and
Hon you can only do what you feel you can do, working for other folks and caring for them is a truly wonderful thing to do but it can take a lot out of you. Do it at your own pace hon, when ever you feel you have the energy to do so, and do it from the heart.
Cindy
Title: Re: what happens after death?
Post by: Kimberly on September 09, 2008, 09:15:48 PM
Post by: Kimberly on September 09, 2008, 09:15:48 PM
Quote from: Leiandra on September 09, 2008, 11:25:09 AMGiven that I presume to be aware of more than one life, I am not inclined to find fault in that line of thought. (=Quote from: Kimberly on September 09, 2008, 11:12:38 AM
This concept might have a bit of scientific backing in that the thought of energy not being destroyed an all.
But if you apply that theory to life 'force'/consciousness/sentience/whatever, then you have to also apply the theory that energy can't be created (one of the laws of physics known as 'The conservation of energy')... which would suggest that if we don't 'die', then we aren't 'born', either. At least not in the sense of just popping into existence from nowhere.
Which would suggest, to me at least, that reincarnation is the most likely outcome of physical cessation.
Title: Re: what happens after death?
Post by: fae_reborn on September 09, 2008, 10:08:42 PM
Post by: fae_reborn on September 09, 2008, 10:08:42 PM
Quote from: SarahR on September 08, 2008, 03:09:59 PMQuote from: Elwood on May 30, 2008, 08:34:21 PM
Your body decomposes and the minerals return to the Earth. A recycling of the building blocks of life.
Spot on.
What happens after death? You are buried. Enjoy your life while it lasts.
When I die, my body will be cremated and my ashes will either be buried in a simple urn or spread out across the land. The body is temporary, but the spirit is eternal. After death, my spirit (which is completely female) will join the Goddess. I'm not sure what will happen after that though.
Jenn
Title: Re: what happens after death?
Post by: Natasha on September 10, 2008, 01:24:45 AM
Post by: Natasha on September 10, 2008, 01:24:45 AM
Quote from: Natasha on May 31, 2008, 12:44:18 AM
first, i agree that it is impossible to tell. though every religion has an explanation. my explanation, which i try to keep based in what we know about the nature of the universe is that there is no life after death.
we are made of matter, the same stuff that makes all of the inanimate objects. we are the chemicals that evolved into the complex machinery that you see in all biological organisms. we are just material and when we die, that complex machinery has failed (why would there need to be a soul in the gears?). i know it may feel like there should be more, but without mixing in human emotion that's what i come up with. consciousness itself is just a kind of illusion, people were never really alive in the sense they thought anyway.
i take all that back. what happens after you die? you're done, finito, no more!
Title: Re: what happens after death?
Post by: Kaitlyn on September 10, 2008, 01:44:37 AM
Post by: Kaitlyn on September 10, 2008, 01:44:37 AM
What happens after death?
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You get eaten by Sarah Palin!
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You get eaten by Sarah Palin!
Title: Re: what happens after death?
Post by: fae_reborn on September 10, 2008, 01:07:44 PM
Post by: fae_reborn on September 10, 2008, 01:07:44 PM
OMG Nephie that's horrible! I don't even like the woman but still, that's just not right! :laugh:
Jenn
Jenn
Title: Re: what happens after death?
Post by: Kaitlyn on September 10, 2008, 01:16:48 PM
Post by: Kaitlyn on September 10, 2008, 01:16:48 PM
I don't know... would you rather get eaten by John McCain? I worry about his cholesterol.
Title: Re: what happens after death?
Post by: Sephirah on September 10, 2008, 01:24:49 PM
Post by: Sephirah on September 10, 2008, 01:24:49 PM
Quote from: Nephie on September 10, 2008, 01:16:48 PM
I don't know... would you rather get eaten by John McCain? I worry about his cholesterol.
He would provide the side order. ;D
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Title: Re: what happens after death?
Post by: Ian on September 10, 2008, 01:36:33 PM
Post by: Ian on September 10, 2008, 01:36:33 PM
After death, you are buried, or sometimes cremated, or in some locales, fed to the vultures. The body decomposes, nourishing the ground and the plants that grow from it. Either that, or poisons the earth and our groundwater with formaldehyde intended to keep yer corpse pretty for the wake.
But whatever gets you through your day. This gets me through mine.
I like the Discworld theory of the afterlife, that when you die you go wherever it is you think you're going.
But whatever gets you through your day. This gets me through mine.
I like the Discworld theory of the afterlife, that when you die you go wherever it is you think you're going.
Title: Re: what happens after death?
Post by: Jay on September 10, 2008, 01:39:08 PM
Post by: Jay on September 10, 2008, 01:39:08 PM
Quote from: Ian on September 10, 2008, 01:36:33 PM
After death, you are buried, or sometimes cremated, or in some locales, fed to the vultures. The body decomposes, nourishing the ground and the plants that grow from it. Either that, or poisons the earth and our groundwater with formaldehyde intended to keep yer corpse pretty for the wake.
I agree with this. I personally think there is nothing after death. But Im open to theories as personally I have never actually experianced it.. or talked to anyone that has!
Title: Re: what happens after death?
Post by: fae_reborn on September 10, 2008, 08:05:22 PM
Post by: fae_reborn on September 10, 2008, 08:05:22 PM
Quote from: Nephie on September 10, 2008, 01:16:48 PM
I don't know... would you rather get eaten by John McCain? I worry about his cholesterol.
I'd rather not get eaten honestly. :P
Quote from: Leiandra on September 10, 2008, 01:24:49 PM
He would provide the side order. ;D(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mccain.co.uk%2Fassets%2Fproducts%2Fchips%2Fhomefrieschunky_large.jpg&hash=990b642e052979ea5ab158d2b54ec357fbdc88b9)
Leiandra, I see people buy those all the time when they come through my line at work, I just have to laugh every time! :laugh:
Jenn
Title: Re: what happens after death?
Post by: cindybc on September 11, 2008, 04:42:08 AM
Post by: cindybc on September 11, 2008, 04:42:08 AM
Geeeee, flesh eating aliens, they would need to get fitted with dentures after trying to eat me.
Cindy
Cindy
Title: Re: what happens after death?
Post by: Stealthgrrl on September 11, 2008, 05:48:38 AM
Post by: Stealthgrrl on September 11, 2008, 05:48:38 AM
Sarah Palin hasn't offered to eat me. I would be more than a little shocked if she did. I would hope that she would at least, you know, tell me i was pretty, or something, first.
I am partial to brunettes, though. Hmm.
::)
Stealth
PS--as for John...no. It would just be wrong on too many levels. And anyways, I'm testosterone-intolerant.
I am partial to brunettes, though. Hmm.
::)
Stealth
PS--as for John...no. It would just be wrong on too many levels. And anyways, I'm testosterone-intolerant.
Title: Re: what happens after death?
Post by: Hypatia on September 11, 2008, 05:55:15 AM
Post by: Hypatia on September 11, 2008, 05:55:15 AM
I honestly don't know. And I'll leave it at that. Meanwhile, I have my life right here and now to concern me.
I'm strongly theistic, I'm by no means agnostic when it comes to faith in a benevolent higher intelligence. Because I have been observing it at work in my life. But there's no reliable way for me to know anything about survival after death, so all I can do is be agnostic on that question and refuse to speculate. I'm open to the possibility of consciousness surviving after death, and I think it would be quite fascinating if true, but so far I have no basis at all on which to evaluate its truth value either yea or nay. I'm not taking sides one way or the other-- if I asserted any opinion on it I'd feel like an intellectual fraud.
I'm strongly theistic, I'm by no means agnostic when it comes to faith in a benevolent higher intelligence. Because I have been observing it at work in my life. But there's no reliable way for me to know anything about survival after death, so all I can do is be agnostic on that question and refuse to speculate. I'm open to the possibility of consciousness surviving after death, and I think it would be quite fascinating if true, but so far I have no basis at all on which to evaluate its truth value either yea or nay. I'm not taking sides one way or the other-- if I asserted any opinion on it I'd feel like an intellectual fraud.
Title: Re: what happens after death?
Post by: Stealthgrrl on September 11, 2008, 06:08:05 AM
Post by: Stealthgrrl on September 11, 2008, 06:08:05 AM
Since Hypatia has been dull enough to put this thread back on topic ::) I will weigh in. When you die, you're put in a room with all your dead relatives. It's like being 9 again and it's sunday. You have to be polite. It's boring. Then, if you're a boy, you're sent to purgatory to think about all the things you've done, until you're ready to come out and stop hitting your little brother with that plastic golf club. If you're a girl, you're already a beautiful angel and you sit at the right hand of the Goddess and discuss people and eat fattening delicious food, which is no longer fattening, because this is Heaven, you know? And then, you can make it rain on that bitch who borrowed your favorite sweater without asking. She's wearing silk, too, oh this won't be good. Hehe.
Stealth
Stealth
Title: you go back to the Source .. :)
Post by: androgynetg on September 11, 2008, 12:27:17 PM
Post by: androgynetg on September 11, 2008, 12:27:17 PM
Quote from: Stealthgrrl on September 11, 2008, 06:08:05 AMThe Oracle: They have their reasons, but usually a program chooses exile when it faces deletion.
.. When you die, you're put in a room with all your dead relatives. It's like being 9 again and it's sunday ..
Neo: And why would a program be deleted?
The Oracle: Maybe it breaks down. Maybe a better program is created to replace it - happens all the time, and when it does, a program can either choose to hide here, or return to The Source.
Title: Re: what happens after death?
Post by: Melissa on September 11, 2008, 03:20:38 PM
Post by: Melissa on September 11, 2008, 03:20:38 PM
Quote from: cindybc on September 09, 2008, 06:04:22 PMWell, transition isn't so much of an issue anymore. It really feels like I'm past transition at this point and am just living life. I think my obstacles are just different at this point, which is why I don't post here very often anymore. Many of my goals have been completely non-gender-related and the few that are gender-related are because I put them off for many years. About the only reason I'm posting here is to help other people out if I can, although I know very few of the current posters anymore. Many times though, it's hard to compare my own experiences because they tend to be different from others, but I try. :)
Hi Melissa, I can't say I understand what it was like for you except in part. This journey of transitioning is not one of the easiest journeys to undertake even for someone stable physically and psychologicaly, I suppose it realy doesn't hurt to have some type of spiritual beliefs to help one get through it. You have had some extra obstacles to get through, I for one must say that I admire much your courage and strength. As someone else here once expressed,QuoteI know the answer to this already, but I know that this whole transition is a huge mind blowing event of equal amounts of fear, depression, excitement all flying @ you @ once. Mix in the HRT and
Hon you can only do what you feel you can do, working for other folks and caring for them is a truly wonderful thing to do but it can take a lot out of you. Do it at your own pace hon, when ever you feel you have the energy to do so, and do it from the heart.
Quote from: fae_reborn on September 10, 2008, 08:05:22 PMOMG, a woman who does not want to be eaten!?! :o Quick, alert the media! ;D
I'd rather not get eaten honestly. :P
Title: Re: what happens after death?
Post by: Sherue on September 18, 2008, 01:18:07 AM
Post by: Sherue on September 18, 2008, 01:18:07 AM
I'm not entirely sure what happens when you die but as I was in the coma I had two vivid dreams of me being on my dead Grandpa's farm in the rural edge of the town the first I was a little girl fishing with Grandpa and the second I was a full grown woman in his fields and we just talked about how we've been lately and it felt like only a visit. I'm not sure if it was heaven or a coma dream but I find it weird that after I woke up Amanda told me I flat lined twice and I had two dreams. If that was heaven then I have no reason to be afraid of dieing because for the first time in a while I felt completely at peace and how kind Grandpa treated me when he was still alive I miss him so much.
Title: Re: what happens after death?
Post by: pennyjane on October 25, 2008, 12:31:07 AM
Post by: pennyjane on October 25, 2008, 12:31:07 AM
i'm a christian and subscribe pretty much to the standard christian view. whatever that might look like, i haven't a clue. i do want to get to heaven...but i'm in no hurry.
Title: Re: what happens after death?
Post by: Silk on October 28, 2008, 12:19:20 PM
Post by: Silk on October 28, 2008, 12:19:20 PM
I'm a pretty well-adjusted atheist now, but I was brought up on the idea that there was going to be some sort of afterlife. I did, at one point, give a lot of serious thought to this subject. To amend that, I still do, actually. You don't have to consider something plausible to really...feel curious about it. If you need something to exist to really believe in it, then my feeling is perhaps you could use some education on what it really means to believe. Then again, that wouldn't be the first of my opinions or ideas that don't really swallow well with most people. There are a number of ways I can explain why I spend so much time talking to a god who isn't there, but I accepted the part of myself that does that a long time ago. It's not something I try to pick apart anymore.
Well, one of the theories that I held back in those days was that, if I went through my life in pursuit of enlightenment, then I would be reborn into a more advanced and more enlightened society. Not in the sense of reward or punishment, mind you. More a sorting process in which like were put with like, so every person in every life is born very close to equal to one another. As you can see, I'm going with the "many possible worlds" model of reincarnation here. Now, this wouldn't necessarily have to be a more technologically advanced culture. People could just be more in tune with one another, perhaps through some form of remote empathy. It would be a society in which it would be perfectly appropriate, even expected, to go up and hug a complete stranger. It would be a society in which you could just sit down on a bridge somewhere and talk with someone for long hours, not once uttering a harsh word to one another. It would be a society that has been given the choice of having all possible work handled for them, whether by some magic or higher power or advanced technology, yet most people choose to perform some kind of work or other just for the joy of giving. The workplace would be a social gathering place in which people met in friendship and fellowship with one another, not a place where you had to be watchful of coworkers trying to pile their responsibilities onto you. The sort of afterlife I envision is one that I feel everyone deserves to have in this life. It's a world I would want my children to inherit.
I'm in no rush to drop dead, though, so I have plenty of time to work on that dream by my reckoning. Perhaps you can't really escape the inevitability of death, but I've learned to keep my mind within a theoretically potentially unlimited timeframe. I've found it's much better for my mental health. Yeah, I know I'm not going to live forever. No need to tell me that. I've just learned not to be a fatalist. Bad for the health, you know.
Well, one of the theories that I held back in those days was that, if I went through my life in pursuit of enlightenment, then I would be reborn into a more advanced and more enlightened society. Not in the sense of reward or punishment, mind you. More a sorting process in which like were put with like, so every person in every life is born very close to equal to one another. As you can see, I'm going with the "many possible worlds" model of reincarnation here. Now, this wouldn't necessarily have to be a more technologically advanced culture. People could just be more in tune with one another, perhaps through some form of remote empathy. It would be a society in which it would be perfectly appropriate, even expected, to go up and hug a complete stranger. It would be a society in which you could just sit down on a bridge somewhere and talk with someone for long hours, not once uttering a harsh word to one another. It would be a society that has been given the choice of having all possible work handled for them, whether by some magic or higher power or advanced technology, yet most people choose to perform some kind of work or other just for the joy of giving. The workplace would be a social gathering place in which people met in friendship and fellowship with one another, not a place where you had to be watchful of coworkers trying to pile their responsibilities onto you. The sort of afterlife I envision is one that I feel everyone deserves to have in this life. It's a world I would want my children to inherit.
I'm in no rush to drop dead, though, so I have plenty of time to work on that dream by my reckoning. Perhaps you can't really escape the inevitability of death, but I've learned to keep my mind within a theoretically potentially unlimited timeframe. I've found it's much better for my mental health. Yeah, I know I'm not going to live forever. No need to tell me that. I've just learned not to be a fatalist. Bad for the health, you know.
Title: Re: what happens after death?
Post by: cindybc on October 28, 2008, 01:45:44 PM
Post by: cindybc on October 28, 2008, 01:45:44 PM
Hi Silk Enjoyed reading your theory about an afterlife. You may find some of my ideas interesting that I have submitted in my blog. Cindy's Ramblings Blog.
Cindy
Cindy