News and Events => People news => Topic started by: Natasha on June 23, 2008, 05:21:47 PM Return to Full Version

Title: Va. says groom and 'bride' deceived officials
Post by: Natasha on June 23, 2008, 05:21:47 PM
Va. says groom and 'bride' deceived officials

Link (http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hiK4-w5oOyzei2lTpdOJJhHeKmPgD91G0CLG0)
6/23/2008

"RICHMOND, Va. (AP) — The couple walked into a Norfolk courthouse on a spring day, exchanged a few words, and within 10 minutes, were seemingly husband and wife. It was an unremarkable ceremony — except that several weeks later, officials realized the shapely bride might not have been a woman."

Title: Re: Va. says groom and 'bride' deceived officials
Post by: Hypatia on June 23, 2008, 06:07:18 PM
The whole way the story is written is really insulting. I expected better from the Washington Post. Like putting the word "bride" in "scare quotes." I might as well add that I'm not impressed by their "journalism."

I overheard this story on the TV news just now, and it was even more insulting: They called the bride a "transgender man."  >:( Someone should remind them of the Associated Press guidelines (http://www.glaad.org/publications/archive_detail.php?id=3869) to refer to trans people by their target gender.
Title: Re: Va. says groom and 'bride' deceived officials
Post by: Sheila on June 23, 2008, 06:38:06 PM
I read the article too. All the while I was reading and wondering how they found out. Well, the bride, did everything backwards. She went down and changed her name after the wedding. I guess she didn't even try and change her gender on the ID that she had. I think it would have gone OK if she would have put all her rocks in line and done it the right way. Like getting all your documents in order first, then going down and getting the license to marry.
Newspapers and the media are not what you call gender saavy.
Title: Re: Va. says groom and 'bride' deceived officials
Post by: tekla on June 23, 2008, 06:53:36 PM
They only write for their readers, if they ain't, what's it say about those who read it?
Title: Re: Va. says groom and 'bride' deceived officials
Post by: Shana A on June 23, 2008, 08:54:41 PM
Quote from: tekla on June 23, 2008, 06:53:36 PM
They only write for their readers, if they ain't, what's it say about those who read it?

Hmmmm, we all read it too  ;) not sure what that says about us... of course, I read it for research  ::)

Z
Title: Re: Va. says groom and 'bride' deceived officials
Post by: Natasha on June 24, 2008, 12:51:02 AM
more here. (http://www.cnbc.com/id/25336573/for/cnbc) and here.
(http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,370422,00.html)
Title: Va. says groom and 'bride' deceived officials
Post by: Mnemosyne on June 24, 2008, 05:34:53 AM
Va. says groom and 'bride' deceived officials
AP (http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hiK4-w5oOyzei2lTpdOJJhHeKmPgD91G0CLG0)
By DIONNE WALKER

A prosecutor says the decision to press charges could turn on whether the pair knowingly misled officials when they applied for a license and later, traveled to a courthouse for a ceremony. If the bride was transgender, and identified as a woman, it is unclear whether the marriage would be considered illegal.
Title: Re: Va. says groom and 'bride' deceived officials
Post by: Hypatia on June 24, 2008, 09:55:42 AM
Quote from: Natasha on June 24, 2008, 12:51:02 AM
more here. (http://www.cnbc.com/id/25336573/for/cnbc) and here.
(http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,370422,00.html)
Nothing more. Those articles are the identical text from the first one. Except that Fox News changed the headline to read "Man Dressed as Bride..."  :icon_userfriendly:
Title: Re: Va. says groom and 'bride' deceived officials
Post by: Shana A on June 24, 2008, 10:01:07 AM
Quote from: Hypatia on June 24, 2008, 09:55:42 AM
Nothing more. Those articles are the identical text from the first one. Except that Fox News changed the headline to read "Man Dressed as Bride..."  :icon_userfriendly:

Well, that's a pretty significant editorial change. Isn't that why they make the big bucks!!  ::)

Z