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Title: Male Scientist Writes of Life as Female Scientist
Post by: Hazumu on July 14, 2006, 06:00:32 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/12/AR2006071201883.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/12/AR2006071201883.html)

I look forward to the coments and debate about this article.

Karen

(sorry, in a hurry to get out of the house to see my electro...)
Title: Re: Male Scientist Writes of Life as Female Scientist
Post by: BrendaQG on July 16, 2006, 01:27:23 PM
Well i am a relatively young M2F Ts who is in school to become a scientist.  I cannot say my experiences will be as equivalent because I am black.  If anything as a black woman I might be taken more seriously.  Black males are seen as brutes, thugs etc.  Black females are seen as thuoghtful and wise.  At least in black society.  We will find out soon enough.

Funny thing though I used to get in arguements with a harvard professor named Lubos Motl over the subject of Loop Quantum Gravity.  He gave me the diminutive nickname of Tweet Tweet.  Actually it was someone else but he started calling me that.  Part of me would really like to embarass the heck out of him with that.  ;-)
Title: Re: Male Scientist Writes of Life as Female Scientist
Post by: HelenW on July 16, 2006, 02:28:49 PM
For all the hype about paying attention to and drawing conclusions exclusively from the data this article illustrates the women still have a long way to go in the scientific community, as well as others.  I have a professional degree (Mechanical Engineering) and I'm really curious as to how my "status drop" would manifest itself if/when I ever come out at work.  I'm moderately hopeful that I won't get fired but I know I won't be taken as seriously as before.  I can see it now when talking about it with my girlfriends there.  Females get less respect.  >:(

By the way, Karen, nice pic!

Hardly any difference from the old av! ( ;D OK, just kidding, I should be so lucky to look that good!)

Way ta go!
helen
Title: Re: Male Scientist Writes of Life as Female Scientist
Post by: BrendaQG on July 17, 2006, 01:43:53 AM
In our cases as well there is the fact that we are TS.  So in a way we are in a worse position than natal women.  If you look too good then you colleagues will see you as nothing more than a hypersexual object.  You will be seen as an airhead or something.  If you don't then your collegues will see you as a luantic.  As with natal women looks become of disproportionate importance. 

Looks and presenting a certain image are still important for a male scientist but they cannot cause a male to be totally ignored. 
Title: Re: Male Scientist Writes of Life as Female Scientist
Post by: LostInTime on July 17, 2006, 09:09:07 AM
Also see here:
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,3850.0.html