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Team Obama to Christian Colorado: We Will Praise "Transgender Brothers"
by Ben-Peter Terpstra 

http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2008/07/15/team-obama-to-christian-colorado-we-will-praise-%E2%80%9Ctransgender-brothers%E2%80%9D/ (http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2008/07/15/team-obama-to-christian-colorado-we-will-praise-%E2%80%9Ctransgender-brothers%E2%80%9D/)

Team Obama likes to throw politically correct buzz words around such as "transgender brothers," "transgender sisters,"  "Pride season," "LGBT Americans," "Stonewall riots," "LGBT Rights," and "transgender workers."

    They exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshipped and served the creation rather than the Creator . . . Therefore, God gave them up to passions of dishonor; for their females exchanged the natural use for that which is contrary to nature.
    – Romans 1:25-26

Obama is traveling to Denver, but is Colorado hungry for his politics? "I am proud to join with our lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender brothers and sisters in celebrating the accomplishments, the lives, and the families of all LGBT people during this Pride season," reads one statement, on the Senator's local website. So, will Hollywood convert Colorado?

Utter BS and easily refuted.

These folk are desperate lil haters who fear their dominance, quite rightly I hope, and ability to frighten people into supporting them is over.

Nichole

I'm pretty confused.

Obama is a black man from Illinois. He calls boys "brothers" and girls "sisters" a lot. That's his dialect. I don't think he's trying too hard to be politically correct. Talking about trans people at all is considered politically incorrect. "Intellectual Conservative" is an oxymoron, in my opinion, just like "Intellectual Democrat" would be an oxymoron in my opinion. The rights and lefts are often extremists, and I really don't trust either side.

I think Obama is honestly reaching out. Which is why he's drenched in my vote. That and he's less likely to send my cousin to Iraq.

First, the writer is from Australia, so what's it matter to him anyway?

Obama is traveling to Denver, but is Colorado hungry for his politics?
Who knows?  Who cares?  But I'm betting they are going to cash the checks and count the money from the Convention just the same.  And the choice of Denver - which worked hard to get the convention because its big business - was made long before Obama was the presumptive nominee.  But they would be saying the same thing about any Democrat right?

So, will Hollywood convert Colorado?
Bugga-Bugga here comes the old Hollywood monster (What no mention of San Francisco Vaues, I'm hurt).  What's Hollywood got to do with any of this?  I thought he was from Chicago, not LA (hint, he is.)  I'm not aware of any movies he's been in, are you?

Thus, Christians love ->-bleeped-<-s, but hate their high heels.
Only because we prefer sensible shoes.

Obama's Hollywood hates Christianity and Christians.
What's with Obama now owning Hollywood?  He's moving up.  Just the other day he was only a Senator, now he's a mogul.

Obama praises his "transgender brothers" and celebrates their sexual "accomplishments."
I sent him a list of my sexual accomplishments just the other day, I hope he reads them at his acceptance speech, that would jazz up that boring economic stuff for sure.

(from Café Judaism to polygamous Islam) belong in the antiseptic "People of Faith" box. There is no space for Christian newlyweds, but there is a place for lesbians
Wow, Cafe Judaism, how open minded he is.  And we'll make room for Christian newlyweds when they get back from the honeymoon.  Or not.  I'm not sure I've ever heard a political candidate talk about Christian Newlyweds before.

Obama's disciples tell you that America's founding fathers were transgender-friendly pioneers.
Well they did wear wigs, silk stockings and all that lace stuff.  I mean, give me a half a hit of whatever this guy is on.

yet pro-lifers are left to rot in the closet.
Nope, the platform is pro-choice, the pro-life folks (who oddly favor war and capital punishment) are rotting over there in McCain land.

Your local Obama cell
Are you implying.... yes, of course you are.

Your Obama group wants the Red Feds
Yeah, the American government is profoundly commie after all these years of bush, bush and ronald ray-gun.  I bet he has a list of over 500 people in the State Department alone.  Paging Joe McCarthy, come back, we need you.

Leadership avoids debating channels and real town hall meetings, because Christians may raise "inconvenient questions."
Remember the good old days, when the political season started after the summer?  Ahh sweet paradise.  I'm sure they are going to have debates and town halls, but in the fall, when it matters.  I don't think anyone is going to be caring all that much in mid July.

QuoteTalking about trans people at all is considered politically incorrect.

Actually Transgender is the new "thing" in a lot of places and if you want to show how culturally aware you are you bring up those poor transgender people. The increased visibility to discrimination is nice but I am growing tired of having to deal with a bunch of clueless morons wanting to feel good about themselves or show off that they are paying attention to certain buzzwords.

"Your Team Obama site likes to throw politically correct buzz words around such as "transgender brothers," "transgender sisters," "Pride season," "LGBT Americans," "Stonewall riots," "LGBT Rights," and "transgender workers.""

So there's some nefariousness at work when people recognize other human beings as human? I don't see this as politically correct, rather as humane.

"I have heard Obama say: "Too often, the issue of LGBT rights is exploited by those seeking to divide us." Therefore, Christians feel pressure to sacrifice their faith for the sake of "unity." Questioners are "dividers." Followers are "unifiers.""

How does this differ at all from what McCain's people do? Or anyone who has ever actually run for PUSA and their handlers have done? I don't know how that would play in Australia, but here it is de rigeur.

"Colorado's Team Obama argues that "transgender workers" are just victims "who ask for the simple dignity of being judged by the quality of their work." Yet, Democratic Party hysterics hypocritically spend their days condemning Christians."

I've never seen or heard of blanket condemnations of Christians by any mainstream USA party. To do so would be suicidal with around 80% of the population identifying themselves as Christians.

"Obama's disciples tell you that America's founding fathers were transgender-friendly pioneers. "It's time to live up to our founding promise of equality by treating all our citizens with dignity and respect." History is "Herstory" too."

I don;'t think anyone would deny the importance to human history of more than half of the historical population. Herstory is important as well as His-story. The "Founding Fathers also believed black Americans were only 3/5 of a person. Yes, USA life evolves, thank goodness. The "Founders" never imagined multi-national conglomerates or electric lighting either. We should go bacl to that to maintain purity? Nor, by and large were the ones we mostly read about Christian, they were primarily Deists.

"Team Obama refuses to talk about the LGBT photographs it edits and why. But, recall, that to question Obama is to "attack Obama." So, for instance, followers must ignore the fact that LGBT groups "drag" children to their parades."

Conservatives don't bring their children to parades and rallies? Or is "drag" the operative word here? More liberal people "drag" their children? More conservative ones "carry" theirs? So far, "intellectual" doesn't seem to apply.

"Your local Obama cell feels a great sense of devotion to the "lesbian soldier" because she allegedly "wants nothing more than to serve her country openly and honestly" – but undermines the rights of marines to pray in public, or wear crosses."

I always wore a crucifix while serving in the U.S.A. military. It was military issued, in fact. That has changed? I rather think not. Anyone can pray publically legally; Jesus suggested that private prayer was more efficacious. Perhaps that should be noted?

"Your Obama group wants the Red Feds to run over the states. "Let's enact federal civil rights legislation to outlaw [so-called] hate crimes and protect [LGBT] workers against discrimination." Judeo-Christian boundaries are allegedly mean."

Anyone in USA can subscribe to Judeo-Christian or any other viewpoints and boundaries. The problem arises when a group demands that everyone obey their sense of ultimate propriety. My rights end where yours begin and vice versa. Pretty simple in fact.

"Your self-praising guru throws family values under the bus. "Generations of LGBT Americans, at once ordinary and extraordinary, have made possible this moment in our history," explains the fab cult. Welcome to Changeville!"

So "families" are only those that are Chritian, white, middle-to-upper class and heterosexual? Gays, lesbians, transgender people don't "really' have children and families? Surely you over-reach yourself again. As you've done throughout.

For instance: "In the Christian tradition, you hate the sin but love the sinner. Thus, Christians love ->-bleeped-<-s, but hate their high heels. Obama's Hollywood hates Christianity and Christians. And, assuredly, Islam is a religion of "peace" because Islamists like to kill all ->-bleeped-<-s and burn their high heels."

So all Christians are loving, compassionate and readily distinguish sinners and sins? While all Muslims are stone-cold killers? Read-up on that great "Islamist" bugaboo, Iran. They freely allow transgender people to not only exist, but even pay for their operations. A much more positive take than you are willing to give Muslims of all varieties.

I think it's time that "you people" start to see that your "hype" goes nowhere anymore. You have cried 'wolf', or 'fire' far too often in the past thirty years to be believable anymore. I think you know that. The hysterical edge gets shriller & shriller with every passing day. Um, sounds like rejection to me, resounding rejection one would hope.

Comment by Nichole | July 15, 2008

If he allows it it'll probably become more "the sky is falling" fodder for his brand of "intellectualism." Which I agree with Elwood, and tekla, on.

N~

I always wore a crucifix while serving in the U.S.A. military. It was military issued, in fact. That has changed? I rather think not.

I think that we have asked the troops in Operation Freedom not to wear Christian symbols while freeing Iraq.  Of course, that's a Republican war and a Republican policy.  Not that facts matter to these people.

Quote from: Mnemosyne on July 15, 2008, 11:49:35 AM

QuoteTalking about trans people at all is considered politically incorrect.

Actually Transgender is the new "thing" in a lot of places and if you want to show how culturally aware you are you bring up those poor transgender people. The increased visibility to discrimination is nice but I am growing tired of having to deal with a bunch of clueless morons wanting to feel good about themselves or show off that they are paying attention to certain buzzwords.

Hm, that's news to me.

Maybe that's why when I came out to a group of high schoolers (long story) no one kicked my ass.