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Title: What are some average surgery costs ?
Post by: tisha on July 22, 2008, 09:52:46 PM
I'm trying to plan out all the parts of my transition. I want it to all go as smoothly as possible. I spent 9500 on having my nose and lip done and some people have said that was to much. What are some average costs I can use as a guide for breast augmentation and GRS so that I can have an idea of what funds to spend where.
Title: Re: What are some average surgery costs ?
Post by: Ms.Behavin on July 22, 2008, 10:31:55 PM
For the US GRS runs from $16k for McGinn to $18.5k for Bowers and somewhere about $22 K for Meltzer.  In canada its about $18k.  For BA figure about $6500 for silicon gel and about $1k less for saline,  But you'll want gel as they feel and look natural.

Thailand runs anywhere from $6k to 13K for GRS and 3-4k for BA.

Beni
Title: Re: What are some average surgery costs ?
Post by: tisha on July 22, 2008, 10:49:40 PM
Thanks Beni, I can't wait til I get all this done. Every day that goes by feels better and more natural. I just want all the info I can get.
Title: Re: What are some average surgery costs ?
Post by: Natasha on July 24, 2008, 04:24:24 PM
Dr. Bowers was my surgeon.  these are her fees for 2008.  they go up about 1k every year.

http://www.marcibowers.com/grs/surgery4.html (http://www.marcibowers.com/grs/surgery4.html)
Title: Re: What are some average surgery costs ?
Post by: kirakero on July 24, 2008, 05:07:06 PM
Dr. McGinn's Vaginoplasty is $16,500 now.  Her new website is online as well, the prices on it should be a good guide.  FFS is hard to calculate without a consultation.

http://www.drchristinemcginn.com (http://www.drchristinemcginn.com)
Title: Re: What are some average surgery costs ?
Post by: tisha on July 24, 2008, 09:17:06 PM
 Thanks for all the imput.  Since I got my life together I have only been on HRT for 7 months. I have changed so much I'm not sure what I want to have done as for as FFS goes. I may wait a while to see what the hormones do.The Dr. that did my nose and lip doesn't think I need alot done to my face. I never get picked as a guy if I dress as a female. Which I do most of the time. Maybe it helps being able to change my voice when I want . Not sure. It would be great if I don't have to spend tons of cash on FFS so I can spend the bulk of it on breasts and SRS. So many choices. I just get so confused at times. I'm so judgmental of myself that I may be just to picky. So please, any opinions as to what I may need are welcome. Sometimes we all need help from others. Thanks to you all for your help and imput.

                                           Tisha
Title: Re: What are some average surgery costs ?
Post by: Stealthgrrl on July 25, 2008, 07:52:46 AM
Goodness, girl, your face is lovely, you don't need FFS. I didn't either, I just had a couple of minor things done.

Stealth
Title: Re: What are some average surgery costs ?
Post by: TreeFlower on July 25, 2008, 08:35:49 AM
Depends on where you live but that sounds about right. 
Title: Re: What are some average surgery costs ?
Post by: MCMCyn on July 25, 2008, 12:01:05 PM
Dr Brassard is $17,000 but that includes anesthesia, two weeks at the residence, all of the hospital costs, meals, dilators etc.
Title: Re: What are some average surgery costs ?
Post by: tinkerbell on July 31, 2008, 08:09:55 PM
Dr. Meltzer's fees for this year are:

Vaginoplasty - $21,650.00  If you need skin grafts, you will be required to pay an additional $500.00.

Labiaplasty - $5,250.00

Vaginoplasty with breast augmentation - (saline only) $27,200.00 (combined with silicone) $28,400.00

Vaginoplasy with tracheal shave - $24,500.00

And yes, his fees tend to increase about $2,000.00 every year for vaginoplasty alone.

tink :icon_chick:

Title: Re: What are some average surgery costs ?
Post by: Hazumu on July 31, 2008, 10:49:35 PM
Add to that:

Vaginal Deepening: approx $17,000

The fee is basically for consult visits, a minimum 4-1/2 hours surgery and a two night stay upstairs in the Greenbaum Surgery center. 

He'll throw in a free labiaplasty if there's still time left after performing the deepening.

He told me cases like mine (previous surgeon unable/unwilling to proceed due to difficult anatomy,) typically take only 2-1/2 hours.  So there's enough time to tidy things up a bit and make them look nice(r).

Karen
Title: Re: What are some average surgery costs ?
Post by: tisha on July 31, 2008, 11:02:16 PM
I've kinda been thinking of either Bowers or Brassard.. But I'm just not sure as to who I'll use. I mean, after all it a very serious decision to make. It seems like they all have some bad stories being said about them and they all have some great comments being made also. But the one thing for certain is I dont want to go overseas.
Title: Re: What are some average surgery costs ?
Post by: Mnemosyne on August 01, 2008, 12:35:23 PM
If you can afford Bowers or Brassard, there is no reason to head elsewhere at all. If I had the cash I would have gone to Brassard. Instead I went to Thailand and while I have what I will term satisfactory results at this time, what I went through was not worth the savings in money.
Title: Re: What are some average surgery costs ?
Post by: tamerisk40 on August 26, 2008, 10:36:41 PM
Tisha,
I agree with several here that your features are very fem. as they are.
I am a true male and I dated a ts for two years.
Her features were very similar to yours, and no one ever realized she had both sexes, not even me at first.
Please be very careful about where you go, if you decide to do this. I am glad to see the effort you are putting up to get answers, but want to let you know there are guys like me out there that will care for you no matter what.
I never realized what pleasure all the parts could give till I fell in love with her.
As you mentioned earlier, one bad procedure could stay with you forever.

                                    Tamerisk40

Posted on: August 26, 2008, 10:33:54 PM
And by the way, I am not trying to talk you out of this, just natural concern.
It is your body, and your choice.....Good luck on your decision.


                                            Tamerisk40
Title: Re: What are some average surgery costs ?
Post by: cindybc on August 29, 2008, 02:02:43 AM
Hi Tisha I agree with Stealthgrrl you are beautiful, well what I could make out of your avatar with my magnifying glass.

Cindy
Title: Re: What are some average surgery costs ?
Post by: Natasha on August 29, 2008, 02:06:42 AM
what does "being pretty" have to do with wanting to have a body that matches your gender identification?
Title: Re: What are some average surgery costs ?
Post by: Mister on August 29, 2008, 02:27:52 AM
Quote from: Natasha on August 29, 2008, 02:06:42 AM
what does "being pretty" have to do with wanting to have a body that matches your gender identification?

I think they were speaking of her desire for FFS.
Title: Re: What are some average surgery costs ?
Post by: cindybc on August 29, 2008, 11:04:44 PM
Hi Natasha I was only drawing from what information and  the one visual I have to work with. She is good looking already at 7 months on HRT, why not wait to see what further developments Tisha may have for the next five months which will be a full year since she began HRT. and may not require any FFS or any other type of surgery to improve how she looks. As many of the younger girls here discovered that waiting one full years was worth it.

Cindy
Title: Re: What are some average surgery costs ?
Post by: Laura Eva B on September 02, 2008, 10:15:30 PM
Quote from: cindybc on August 29, 2008, 02:02:43 AM
Hi Tisha I agree with Stealthgrrl you are beautiful, well what I could make out of your avatar with my magnifying glass.
Tisha, your tiny avatar may look good (good enough that you don't need FFS ? ... only you know that) ... and at your age I'd wait at least 3 years of HRT before considering FFS or BA.

Surgeon wise if you're going local it has to be Meltzer or Brassard ($26k & $19k for SRS) ... please don't make a second best choice just to save a few $s ...

Laura x
Title: Re: What are some average surgery costs ?
Post by: Ms.Behavin on September 02, 2008, 11:24:02 PM
All the GRS surgeons have an oop's now and then.  I went to McGinn, because for me it felt right. Dr. McGinn, is unlike the other surgeons is a trained plastic surgeon and a general surgeon.  While she's fairly new in the market in GRS, Dr. Bowers personally told me Dr. McGinn was an artist.  And that was 2 days after my GRS in the hospital..  Also like Dr. Bowers, Dr. McGinn is or rather was TS MtF.  I had no visible scars 2 weeks after surgery but that's in part because of how she does her magic.  YMMV, but for me I'm a very satisfied client.  Oh I had BA  also with Dr. McGinn and that turned out nice too.

Just my two cents which is all it's really worth.  You have to decide who feels best like the best surgeon to go to.  It's pertty personal and yes you want it done right the first time.  You really can't go too wrong with any of the major surgeons in the US or Canada though.  They  are all good at what they do.

Beni
Title: Re: What are some average surgery costs ?
Post by: deniz on September 03, 2008, 01:49:22 AM
Quote from: Mnemosyne on August 01, 2008, 12:35:23 PM
If you can afford Bowers or Brassard, there is no reason to head elsewhere at all. If I had the cash I would have gone to Brassard. Instead I went to Thailand and while I have what I will term satisfactory results at this time, what I went through was not worth the savings in money.

what happened?can you share or link your story?
i am seriously thinking of suporn.he is my 3rd choice after bowers and brassards.
Title: Re: What are some average surgery costs ?
Post by: Angel_Mapper on September 04, 2008, 06:13:04 AM
I had mine done with Suporn last month, I just got back to the states Monday in fact.  Mine was $12,000 given February's exchange rates, plus $1500 for the flight and $1500 for the hotel stay (including room service more than half the time I was there), so $15,000 total not counting the grand I spent shopping and sightseeing.  It was definitely an experience I won't forget, and I was incredibly sad to leave.

Posted on: September 04, 2008, 04:47:11 AM
Not sure how to answer this privately Deniz, it's not letting me view your profile or use the email button under your avatar.  I was in Thailand from August 4th to September 1st, with surgery on August 7th.  There were no complications, with his technique there is 0 chance of a fistula and a prolapse is impossible, and those were the only two I was concerned about.

I will be honest and say that the week I spent in the hospital was the worst week of my life.  I was in extreme discomfort (I wouldn't really call it painful), nauseous from the drugs, I couldn't eat much (I lost 7 pounds the first two weeks I was there), I couldn't sleep well because the bed was poking my friggin hips, and rolling over took 5 minutes because of the discomfort and all of the tubes coming out of me and pillows crammed between my legs made it like trying to solve a Rubik's Cube.

If I didn't have my laptop and the hospital's internet connection, I would have gone snooker loopy.

I was still dizzy and nauseous the first two days out of the hospital, but that went away quick when I stopped taking the pain medication.  It didn't hurt enough after leaving the hospital for me to need them, just the random electric shocks of the nerves reattaching which the pain meds didn't do anything for anyway.  I was able to walk around and get to an ATM across the street the day after I got out of the hospital, and by the time I left the only thing I had trouble with was sitting down, even with a doughnut.  Now I'm able to sit half-Indian style no problem, but I still need my doughnut to drive.

My experience once I was out of the hospital was wonderful.  The girls at the clinic were awesome, and out of everything I miss them the most.  I got to meet and hang out with some amazing T-girls as well.  Going on the clinic's regularly scheduled trips to Pattaya and Dr. Suporn's beach house was a lot of fun, but my friend and I decided to hire a taxi for the day through the clinic (around $50) twice, one for another trip south towards Pattaya and another north to Ayuthaya and the Grand Palace in Bangkok.  On the south trip we stopped by the Sri Racha Tiger Zoo where I got to feed a baby tiger and pose with crocodiles, then the Million Year Stone Park, and then rode an elephant to the Sanctuary of Truth.  On the clinic trip to Pattaya we stopped at Nong Nooch gardens, where I was molested by an orangutan (with the pics to prove it!) and saw an elephant show where I bought a painting one of the elephants made during the show.

As far as surgical vacations go, you could do a lot worse than Thailand, if you can stand the heat and humidity.
Title: Re: What are some average surgery costs ?
Post by: Inamorata on September 06, 2008, 05:46:15 AM
Quote from: Natasha on August 29, 2008, 02:06:42 AM
what does "being pretty" have to do with wanting to have a body that matches your gender identification?

Quite rightly said Natasha.
FFS , Lipo and Breast augmentation are defininite gender indicators as to a persons gender far more than GRS. Which is usually hidden.
Title: Re: What are some average surgery costs ?
Post by: Bethany on September 07, 2008, 08:57:16 AM
srs 16500 with dr McGinn in Penn   breast aug  6800

brow lift scalp advan rino and lip lift 18000  hey its expensive to be stunning
Title: Re: What are some average surgery costs ?
Post by: Yvonne on September 07, 2008, 01:04:16 PM
Quote from: Bethany on September 07, 2008, 08:57:16 AM
hey its expensive to be stunning

Lol, very true & if you don't have the financial capabilities to afford what you need, you might as well start working 4 or 5 jobs because if you don't, you're going to meet a dead-end!
Title: Re: What are some average surgery costs ?
Post by: The Bri Girl on September 21, 2008, 09:57:41 PM
I don't worry about affording the surgery.  I have faith that if it's meant to be, it will come about so long as I work the ground work.  But I'm on medicaid right now, and I'm wondering how I can rope them into taking on some of the cost.
Anyone had any luck with medicaid?
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Title: Re: What are some average surgery costs ?
Post by: Dayna1975 on September 24, 2008, 06:01:57 PM
I had been dead set on going to Dr. Alter in LA for my SRS, but after reading here and checking out the site.  I am wanting to go to Dr. Christine McGinn.  Also I noticed that she accepts financing through companies like Carecredit.  I am still more than likely going to stay with Dr. Osterhaught for my FFS.
Title: Re: What are some average surgery costs ?
Post by: The Bri Girl on September 24, 2008, 06:22:35 PM
I'm still quite a ways away, but I'm looking hard at Dr. Brassard in Ontario. 
I called Dr. Bowers office in Trinidad today but they said her practise has been discontinued...?
Brianne.
Title: Re: What are some average surgery costs ?
Post by: Dayna1975 on September 25, 2008, 12:34:36 AM
Quote from: The Bri Girl on September 24, 2008, 06:22:35 PM
I'm still quite a ways away, but I'm looking hard at Dr. Brassard in Ontario. 
I called Dr. Bowers office in Trinidad today but they said her practice has been discontinued...?
Brianne.

I went to Marci's site and they still have her doing the surgeries.  I wonder if the girl on the phone was mistaken.  I think that is a large part of her practice.
Title: Re: What are some average surgery costs ?
Post by: The Bri Girl on September 27, 2008, 10:05:50 AM
Hi!
     Can anyone tell me about Dr. Reed in Florida?  Apparently he offers grants, which could help, but I haven't found pictures of his work anywhere.

Title: Re: What are some average surgery costs ?
Post by: Krystal on December 25, 2008, 10:16:35 PM
does anyone know if they offer finacing? and on top of that do they charge before or after the surgury?
Title: Re: What are some average surgery costs ?
Post by: Suzy on December 25, 2008, 10:45:12 PM
I have heard that some use Care Credit
http://www.carecredit.com/index.html (http://www.carecredit.com/index.html)   
Like anything, credit can be a good tool.  But don't get over your head with it.  Check out any financing you do very carefully.

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Title: Re: What are some average surgery costs ?
Post by: cindybc on December 25, 2008, 11:22:43 PM
Hi Kristie hon, would you re post that please. It says server cannot be found.
Hi  Bri Girl hon, it appears we cross paths again. I highly recommend Dr. Bressard, I had him do my surgery and four weeks into recovery I was fully functional down there, including the power turned on for the door bell.   ;D My hunny had Dr. Bressard do hers to just a month and a half ago. $16000.00 that is including one week at the recovery house.

Cindy
Title: Re: What are some average surgery costs ?
Post by: Suzy on December 26, 2008, 09:06:08 AM
Quote from: cindybc on December 25, 2008, 11:22:43 PM
Hi Kristie hon, would you re post that please. It says server cannot be found.

Sorry, sweetie!  Fixed it.

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Title: Re: What are some average surgery costs ?
Post by: cindybc on December 26, 2008, 01:22:20 PM
Thanks hon, I book marked the link for future reference. These kind of questions appear to come up every now and again and it's nice to have on record.

Cindy 
Title: Re: What are some average surgery costs ?
Post by: tinkerbell on December 26, 2008, 03:35:17 PM
Quote from: Krystal on December 25, 2008, 10:16:35 PM
does anyone know if they offer finacing?

Some surgeons do, but like Kristi said, there are others that use Care Credit.

Quote from: Krystal on December 25, 2008, 10:16:35 PM
do they charge before or after the surgury?

They require full payment before, WAY before your surgery date.  In Dr. Meltzer's case, half of the total amount due has to be paid at least six weeks before your scheduled SRS date, and the rest, one month prior to your SRS date.

tink :icon_chick:
Title: Re: What are some average surgery costs ?
Post by: soldierjane on December 26, 2008, 04:33:33 PM
Even with the tanking economy surgery is still going up $1-2K per year? Talk about a niche market.
Title: Re: What are some average surgery costs ?
Post by: tekla on December 26, 2008, 04:38:20 PM
Yeah, but if the economy really tanks, you might be able to cut a better deal, works both ways.
Title: Re: What are some average surgery costs ?
Post by: soldierjane on December 27, 2008, 07:50:08 AM
Well I guess if we get to soup kitchen level it will probably stop going up and start going down a bit. But then sadly it will only benefit those who could afford it in the first place anyway.