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Title: Video: coming out as androgyne
Post by: Pica Pica on August 11, 2008, 05:14:29 PM
Post by: Pica Pica on August 11, 2008, 05:14:29 PM
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=41A00fKxnd0 (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=41A00fKxnd0)
Title: Re: Video: coming out as androgyne
Post by: Nero on August 11, 2008, 05:22:04 PM
Post by: Nero on August 11, 2008, 05:22:04 PM
I have no words.
Title: Re: Video: coming out as androgyne
Post by: Sephirah on August 11, 2008, 05:47:23 PM
Post by: Sephirah on August 11, 2008, 05:47:23 PM
Fascinating.
I've never heard the word 'androgyne' pronounced out loud before. It sounds different when I think about it. The 'g' is pronounced as a 'j'.
It's interesting what you say about having an established figurehead to identify with to people. I admit that I hadn't ever considered that, and how difficult it must be. Knowing yourself is one thing, but being able to relate that knowledge to others is quite another... because we tend to assume that their knowledge is equal to ours. So, with a term that's far more tenuously defined, and not inherently understood... it would be easier having someone that embodies all that, to which you can say "See them? That's me, too."
So is it the barrage of questioning and possible explanation more of a deterrant to telling people than the issue of how you'll be percieved by them for being 'different'?
I've never heard the word 'androgyne' pronounced out loud before. It sounds different when I think about it. The 'g' is pronounced as a 'j'.
It's interesting what you say about having an established figurehead to identify with to people. I admit that I hadn't ever considered that, and how difficult it must be. Knowing yourself is one thing, but being able to relate that knowledge to others is quite another... because we tend to assume that their knowledge is equal to ours. So, with a term that's far more tenuously defined, and not inherently understood... it would be easier having someone that embodies all that, to which you can say "See them? That's me, too."
So is it the barrage of questioning and possible explanation more of a deterrant to telling people than the issue of how you'll be percieved by them for being 'different'?
Title: Re: Video: coming out as androgyne
Post by: Pica Pica on August 11, 2008, 06:00:39 PM
Post by: Pica Pica on August 11, 2008, 06:00:39 PM
i think everybody else pronounces it with a soft 'g', i move it around depending on how it comes out.
Yeah, I don't tell because I can't be bothered to explain it everytime, because I can't be bothered to argue me case and because once it is through - nothing really changes.
Yeah, I don't tell because I can't be bothered to explain it everytime, because I can't be bothered to argue me case and because once it is through - nothing really changes.
Title: Re: Video: coming out as androgyne
Post by: Shana A on August 12, 2008, 03:08:58 PM
Post by: Shana A on August 12, 2008, 03:08:58 PM
I like this video Pica! Yes, it's really tricky coming out to other people as androgynes, since most people outside our internet community haven't heard of this before and have no context for understanding it. I usually end up saying that certain aspects are similar to transgender or transsexual and then go from there to my personal differences.
On another subject, I think a dress with floral designs would be nicer than polka dots, perhaps you can find something that complements your hair colour.
Z
On another subject, I think a dress with floral designs would be nicer than polka dots, perhaps you can find something that complements your hair colour.
Z
Title: Re: Video: coming out as androgyne
Post by: Pica Pica on August 12, 2008, 03:12:19 PM
Post by: Pica Pica on August 12, 2008, 03:12:19 PM
what colours do go with this hair?
Title: Re: Video: coming out as androgyne
Post by: Nero on August 12, 2008, 03:19:35 PM
Post by: Nero on August 12, 2008, 03:19:35 PM
Quote from: Pica Pica on August 12, 2008, 03:12:19 PM
what colours do go with this hair?
Just about every color, I'd say. And you've never looked more beautiful than in that dress, babydoll. It's perfect on you. Yuck, I said something nice again. My apologies. :-X
Title: Re: Video: coming out as androgyne
Post by: tekla on August 12, 2008, 03:22:49 PM
Post by: tekla on August 12, 2008, 03:22:49 PM
Honey, regardless of how you ID, there is a right way and a wrong way to sit in a dress.
Title: Re: Video: coming out as androgyne
Post by: Nero on August 12, 2008, 03:30:36 PM
Post by: Nero on August 12, 2008, 03:30:36 PM
Quote from: tekla on August 12, 2008, 03:22:49 PM
Honey, regardless of how you ID, there is a right way and a wrong way to sit in a dress.
Sie did fine. Not like she's been taught how or anything.
Title: Re: Video: coming out as androgyne
Post by: Pica Pica on August 12, 2008, 03:33:08 PM
Post by: Pica Pica on August 12, 2008, 03:33:08 PM
i know there is, i was just being silly.
Title: Re: Video: coming out as androgyne
Post by: tekla on August 12, 2008, 03:37:17 PM
Post by: tekla on August 12, 2008, 03:37:17 PM
Well, it always gets the attention of the boys, that's for sure.
Title: Re: Video: coming out as androgyne
Post by: Nero on August 12, 2008, 03:38:42 PM
Post by: Nero on August 12, 2008, 03:38:42 PM
Quote from: Pica Pica on August 12, 2008, 03:33:08 PM
i know there is, i was just being silly.
You did the Sharon Stone move on purpose?
Title: Re: Video: coming out as androgyne
Post by: Pica Pica on August 12, 2008, 03:41:03 PM
Post by: Pica Pica on August 12, 2008, 03:41:03 PM
no, but i slouched on purpose, i thought that's what tekla meant.
no the sharon stone was just an accident, due to the fact i find myself moving around and moving my arms around and pulling faces when in front of the camera - i think it's something to do with the way that a camera never gives reaction.
no the sharon stone was just an accident, due to the fact i find myself moving around and moving my arms around and pulling faces when in front of the camera - i think it's something to do with the way that a camera never gives reaction.
Title: Re: Video: coming out as androgyne
Post by: tekla on August 12, 2008, 03:44:09 PM
Post by: tekla on August 12, 2008, 03:44:09 PM
Well the slouch deal was bad enough, I was thinking more along the lines of I could have put a yardstick between your knees and still had room left over.
Title: Re: Video: coming out as androgyne
Post by: Pica Pica on August 12, 2008, 03:46:31 PM
Post by: Pica Pica on August 12, 2008, 03:46:31 PM
i always sit like that on that chair
Title: Re: Video: coming out as androgyne
Post by: tekla on August 12, 2008, 03:48:27 PM
Post by: tekla on August 12, 2008, 03:48:27 PM
Well then you should switch to a longer dress/skit, or funnier underwear.
Title: Re: Video: coming out as androgyne
Post by: Pica Pica on August 12, 2008, 03:50:22 PM
Post by: Pica Pica on August 12, 2008, 03:50:22 PM
like the head of an elephant?
Title: Re: Video: coming out as androgyne
Post by: tekla on August 12, 2008, 03:57:48 PM
Post by: tekla on August 12, 2008, 03:57:48 PM
That would work for me, that or pink lace.
Title: Re: Video: coming out as androgyne
Post by: Shana A on August 12, 2008, 04:47:03 PM
Post by: Shana A on August 12, 2008, 04:47:03 PM
Quote from: Pica Pica on August 12, 2008, 03:46:31 PM
i always sit like that on that chair
Yes, well it's fine to sit that way when wearing trousers... ;)
Z
Title: Re: Video: coming out as androgyne
Post by: Jaimey on August 12, 2008, 06:26:14 PM
Post by: Jaimey on August 12, 2008, 06:26:14 PM
Quote from: Pica Pica on August 11, 2008, 06:00:39 PM
Yeah, I don't tell because I can't be bothered to explain it everytime, because I can't be bothered to argue me case and because once it is through - nothing really changes.
Amen to that. My feelings exactly. Love this video, by the way! It might be my favorite...actually, I'm pretty sure it is. :D
I was going to mention the way you were sitting too...I have to confess though, I tend to sit that way in a skirt too, but I'm more conscious of it. It is a completely learned practice, isn't it? I hadn't thought about that before. If you sit just right, you can still sit that way, but the skirt will dip down and cover up the undies. :laugh:
Although, the elephant head underwear would be hilarious... ;D
Title: Re: Video: coming out as androgyne
Post by: JonasCarminis on August 12, 2008, 11:00:37 PM
Post by: JonasCarminis on August 12, 2008, 11:00:37 PM
i heart you pica. :) and i found you on youtube and subscribed. :P
Title: Re: Video: coming out as androgyne
Post by: Pica Pica on August 13, 2008, 08:35:04 AM
Post by: Pica Pica on August 13, 2008, 08:35:04 AM
:police:
i have watched carefully and nothing untoward is spotted.
i have watched carefully and nothing untoward is spotted.
Title: Re: Video: coming out as androgyne
Post by: Shana A on August 13, 2008, 01:36:01 PM
Post by: Shana A on August 13, 2008, 01:36:01 PM
Quote from: Pica Pica on August 13, 2008, 08:35:04 AM
:police:
i have watched carefully and nothing untoward is spotted.
No Brittany Spears moves for our Pica >:D :laugh:
Z
Title: Re: Video: coming out as androgyne
Post by: Nero on August 13, 2008, 01:40:23 PM
Post by: Nero on August 13, 2008, 01:40:23 PM
Quote from: Pica Pica on August 13, 2008, 08:35:04 AM
:police:
i have watched carefully and nothing untoward is spotted.
yeah, finally got around to looking in that direction myself. was too busy staring at your tits the first dozen viewings. :P
Title: Re: Video: coming out as androgyne
Post by: sparkles on August 14, 2008, 01:34:41 AM
Post by: sparkles on August 14, 2008, 01:34:41 AM
i agree the first time its hard to listen to what your saying as your just waiting to see what your legs next. maybe a few deportment lessions are needed :) anyway the second time i did listen to what you said, i find it interesting the statement of intent thing is right theres only a point to telling people really if you intend to be something or do something. the people that know you just tend to see you as you, i think it only helps when talking to people that dont know you as way of an explination if you feel like you should give one that is. i have found that now im just geting on with my life and the whole andro thing only comes up in small ways with people, young girl last night said you have girls jeans on, to which i replyed yes end of, no big explination needed with diagrams and flip charts. just yes. i think sometime just cos we over anylise it dont mean everyone else as to or for that matter do we. you can spend too much time doing that. i would love not to see another vid from you cos your to busy being out there being you which is propably the way to be a figure head in our own little way. also you are the only androjine i know never heard anyone else pronounce it like that :)
Title: Re: Video: coming out as androgyne
Post by: Pica Pica on August 14, 2008, 03:50:24 AM
Post by: Pica Pica on August 14, 2008, 03:50:24 AM
i don't want to be deported.
Except that, i agree with everything else you say. That it shouldn't be weighted and thought about all the time. However, there will be more videos probably - 'cos I like making them.
Except that, i agree with everything else you say. That it shouldn't be weighted and thought about all the time. However, there will be more videos probably - 'cos I like making them.
Title: Re: Video: coming out as androgyne
Post by: Nero on August 14, 2008, 11:14:38 AM
Post by: Nero on August 14, 2008, 11:14:38 AM
Quote from: Pica Pica on August 14, 2008, 03:50:24 AM
'cos I like making them.
'cos you're an attention whore.
Title: Re: Video: coming out as androgyne
Post by: BlackRabbit on August 14, 2008, 03:13:11 PM
Post by: BlackRabbit on August 14, 2008, 03:13:11 PM
I'm envious of you, I don't have the guts to do what you did. Not yet anyways, but that's for the inspiration.
:)
:)
Title: Re: Video: coming out as androgyne
Post by: Pica Pica on August 14, 2008, 06:02:18 PM
Post by: Pica Pica on August 14, 2008, 06:02:18 PM
Quote from: Nero on August 14, 2008, 11:14:38 AMQuote from: Pica Pica on August 14, 2008, 03:50:24 AM
'cos I like making them.
'cos you're an attention whore.
and?
Title: Re: Video: coming out as androgyne
Post by: Jaimey on August 14, 2008, 06:11:34 PM
Post by: Jaimey on August 14, 2008, 06:11:34 PM
but that's why we like you