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Title: A message to the gents
Post by: Sephirah on August 24, 2008, 10:15:26 AM
Post by: Sephirah on August 24, 2008, 10:15:26 AM
If
by
Rudyard Kipling
IF you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or being hated, don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise:
If you can dream - and not make dreams your master;
If you can think - and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build 'em up with worn-out tools:
If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: 'Hold on!'
If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
' Or walk with Kings - nor lose the common touch,
if neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son!
by
Rudyard Kipling
IF you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or being hated, don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise:
If you can dream - and not make dreams your master;
If you can think - and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build 'em up with worn-out tools:
If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: 'Hold on!'
If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
' Or walk with Kings - nor lose the common touch,
if neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son!
Believe in yourself, believe in the strength of others to support you when you need it and don't be afraid to ask for help... it will be given freely. Many things make a man, not least the determination in his soul, courage in his heart, and the fire in his eyes.
*big hug*
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv351%2FAethenor%2Flei2.png&hash=9e68c9343ca82ae12b03fd3525427c8e2f6bc05a)
Title: Re: A message to the gents
Post by: Stealthgrrl on August 24, 2008, 11:02:23 AM
Post by: Stealthgrrl on August 24, 2008, 11:02:23 AM
Well, they do say that if you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, you don't understand the situation.
Aw, forgive me for being a brat. Pleeeease? I love Rudyard Kipling. Neat post, woman.
Shay
Aw, forgive me for being a brat. Pleeeease? I love Rudyard Kipling. Neat post, woman.
Shay
Title: Re: A message to the gents
Post by: Elwood on August 24, 2008, 12:26:07 PM
Post by: Elwood on August 24, 2008, 12:26:07 PM
Oh. Em. Gee.
Leiandra, you make my heart soar! <3
Leiandra, you make my heart soar! <3
Title: Re: A message to the gents
Post by: trapthavok on August 24, 2008, 02:12:39 PM
Post by: trapthavok on August 24, 2008, 02:12:39 PM
Thank you for posting this, Leiandra. I feel like a lot of us need to hear this right now, including me :)
Title: Re: A message to the gents
Post by: Nero on August 24, 2008, 03:02:25 PM
Post by: Nero on August 24, 2008, 03:02:25 PM
Oh how sweet Lei!
Title: Re: A message to the gents
Post by: Ciarquin on August 24, 2008, 03:34:48 PM
Post by: Ciarquin on August 24, 2008, 03:34:48 PM
Thanks for posting that, Leiandra. :) I think we all need to read something like that at times.
Title: Re: A message to the gents
Post by: PolarBear on August 25, 2008, 02:55:24 AM
Post by: PolarBear on August 25, 2008, 02:55:24 AM
Thank you, Leiandra.
I try to become the gentle man I know is inside.
I try to become the gentle man I know is inside.
Title: Re: A message to the gents
Post by: Jack Daniels on August 25, 2008, 04:25:32 PM
Post by: Jack Daniels on August 25, 2008, 04:25:32 PM
Leiandra, you are amazing, and whoever is with you is a really lucking guy...thanks for post
Title: Re: A message to the gents
Post by: Sephirah on August 25, 2008, 04:42:55 PM
Post by: Sephirah on August 25, 2008, 04:42:55 PM
*blushes* Thank you very much. In my case it's a lady, and it's me who's the lucky one. :)
I think you all are a truly great group of guys, and the cameraderie you have here is something to behold. You give each other strength and support, no matter what is happening in your own lives, you're there for each other... that's what's amazing. All of you.
I think you all are a truly great group of guys, and the cameraderie you have here is something to behold. You give each other strength and support, no matter what is happening in your own lives, you're there for each other... that's what's amazing. All of you.
Title: Re: A message to the gents
Post by: Jack Daniels on August 25, 2008, 07:25:19 PM
Post by: Jack Daniels on August 25, 2008, 07:25:19 PM
Quote from: Leiandra on August 25, 2008, 04:42:55 PM
*blushes* Thank you very much. In my case it's a lady, and it's me who's the lucky one. :)
That's hot...
I think you all are a truly great group of guys, and the cameraderie you have here is something to behold. You give each other strength and support, no matter what is happening in your own lives, you're there for each other... that's what's amazing. All of you.
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You re just a great person all around, people like you make the world a bettter place to live in
Title: Re: A message to the gents
Post by: Elwood on August 25, 2008, 07:25:21 PM
Post by: Elwood on August 25, 2008, 07:25:21 PM
Quote from: Leiandra on August 25, 2008, 04:42:55 PM*blushes* Thank you very much. In my case it's a lady, and it's me who's the lucky one. :)Damn it! The awesome ones are always gay! :P
Title: Re: A message to the gents
Post by: Jack Daniels on August 25, 2008, 07:26:53 PM
Post by: Jack Daniels on August 25, 2008, 07:26:53 PM
I agree
Title: Re: A message to the gents
Post by: Aiden on August 25, 2008, 10:02:02 PM
Post by: Aiden on August 25, 2008, 10:02:02 PM
guess I was only one who had trouble reading what it said. was giving me a headache
Title: Re: A message to the gents
Post by: Christo on August 29, 2008, 04:33:44 AM
Post by: Christo on August 29, 2008, 04:33:44 AM
aww thats hella nice. Thanx 4 postin that :) :) :)
Title: Re: A message to the gents
Post by: Nero on August 29, 2008, 04:36:22 AM
Post by: Nero on August 29, 2008, 04:36:22 AM
Quote from: Elwood on August 25, 2008, 07:25:21 PMQuote from: Leiandra on August 25, 2008, 04:42:55 PM*blushes* Thank you very much. In my case it's a lady, and it's me who's the lucky one. :)Damn it! The awesome ones are always gay! :P
Ain't that the truth. :icon_no:
Title: Re: A message to the gents
Post by: Jay on August 29, 2008, 09:54:49 AM
Post by: Jay on August 29, 2008, 09:54:49 AM
Quote from: Nero on August 29, 2008, 04:36:22 AMQuote from: Elwood on August 25, 2008, 07:25:21 PMQuote from: Leiandra on August 25, 2008, 04:42:55 PM*blushes* Thank you very much. In my case it's a lady, and it's me who's the lucky one. :)Damn it! The awesome ones are always gay! :P
Ain't that the truth. :icon_no:
Ahmen brother!
Title: Re: A message to the gents
Post by: Ciarquin on August 30, 2008, 11:43:01 PM
Post by: Ciarquin on August 30, 2008, 11:43:01 PM
Quote from: Aiden on August 25, 2008, 10:02:02 PMReading it was a bit difficult for me as well, but I was able to understand it. It's a little hard on the eyes, especially with the white background. Maybe setting the background colour in your browser to black or something would help.
guess I was only one who had trouble reading what it said. was giving me a headache
Title: Re: A message to the gents
Post by: Sephirah on August 31, 2008, 12:03:57 AM
Post by: Sephirah on August 31, 2008, 12:03:57 AM
I'm sorry about that, guys. I removed the image and just put the poem up there instead. Hopefully that's better. :)
Title: Re: A message to the gents
Post by: Christo on August 31, 2008, 04:03:18 AM
Post by: Christo on August 31, 2008, 04:03:18 AM
yep I got no problems readin it. but thanx anyway :) :) :)
Title: Re: A message to the gents
Post by: iFindMeHere on August 31, 2008, 06:05:23 AM
Post by: iFindMeHere on August 31, 2008, 06:05:23 AM
Lei,
That is awesome. Mind if I print it out?
Lane
That is awesome. Mind if I print it out?
Lane
Title: Re: A message to the gents
Post by: milliontoone on August 31, 2008, 03:20:27 PM
Post by: milliontoone on August 31, 2008, 03:20:27 PM
This is one amazing piece,thank you for posting this, very inspirational indeed.