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Title: Ya wanna Wiki? Ok, just don't get any on the walls!
Post by: HelenW on September 02, 2008, 08:37:02 PM
Post by: HelenW on September 02, 2008, 08:37:02 PM
Hi!
As part of my learning curve, I'd like to know a little about how Susan's Place TG Wiki is used and how it's perceived by our community. Please feel free to comment, suggest and/or criticize (constructively would be best) the Wiki and its ease of use, its importance your journey as a trans person and your thoughts on its usefulness in general.
Thank you!!
hugs & smiles
Emelye
As part of my learning curve, I'd like to know a little about how Susan's Place TG Wiki is used and how it's perceived by our community. Please feel free to comment, suggest and/or criticize (constructively would be best) the Wiki and its ease of use, its importance your journey as a trans person and your thoughts on its usefulness in general.
Thank you!!
hugs & smiles
Emelye
Title: Re: Ya wanna Wiki? Ok, just don't get any on the walls!
Post by: Laura91 on September 02, 2008, 09:51:26 PM
Post by: Laura91 on September 02, 2008, 09:51:26 PM
I went with the fourth option
Title: Re: Ya wanna Wiki? Ok, just don't get any on the walls!
Post by: Flan Princess on September 02, 2008, 10:19:55 PM
Post by: Flan Princess on September 02, 2008, 10:19:55 PM
Another poll choice no.4 chooser
Biggest problem I see is the amount of copy-paste from wikipedia. That and (some) important articles being one step above "stub" status, especially the GRS pages.
Biggest problem I see is the amount of copy-paste from wikipedia. That and (some) important articles being one step above "stub" status, especially the GRS pages.
Title: Re: Ya wanna Wiki? Ok, just don't get any on the walls!
Post by: Renate on September 04, 2008, 03:41:21 PM
Post by: Renate on September 04, 2008, 03:41:21 PM
Yes there is a bunch of content from Wikipedia on Susan's Wiki,
but if that's all we wanted to do it would be easier just to mirror Wikipedia.
There are a lot of articles that it just makes more sense to copy out of Wikipedia.
Is there a need to write our own article on follicle-stimulating hormone?
By "pruning" the Wikipedia articles we can keep the user focused on transgender themes
instead of having links to "human" or "bus station" in every sentence.
We can also use terms like "drag" without disambiguating them "drag (clothing)"
Yes there is a need for new practical articles on everything transgender.
but if that's all we wanted to do it would be easier just to mirror Wikipedia.
There are a lot of articles that it just makes more sense to copy out of Wikipedia.
Is there a need to write our own article on follicle-stimulating hormone?
By "pruning" the Wikipedia articles we can keep the user focused on transgender themes
instead of having links to "human" or "bus station" in every sentence.
We can also use terms like "drag" without disambiguating them "drag (clothing)"
Yes there is a need for new practical articles on everything transgender.
Title: Re: Ya wanna Wiki? Ok, just don't get any on the walls!
Post by: Flan Princess on September 04, 2008, 04:27:25 PM
Post by: Flan Princess on September 04, 2008, 04:27:25 PM
Quote from: Renate on September 04, 2008, 03:41:21 PMAgreed
There are a lot of articles that it just makes more sense to copy out of Wikipedia.
Is there a need to write our own article on follicle-stimulating hormone?
By "pruning" the Wikipedia articles we can keep the user focused on transgender themes
instead of having links to "human" or "bus station" in every sentence.
We can also use terms like "drag" without disambiguating them "drag (clothing)"
That said, a question which I should have just asked in my first post is on the medical articles.
I made it mostly clear that I thought there wasn't enough information, but on the flip side when is it too much information?
What is the happy middle ground between... (using F2M reassignment as an example)
Quote from: Current WikiIn either case, the urethra can be rerouted through the phallus to allow urination through the reconstructed penis.
...and?
Quote from: Dan Greenwald, MDUrethral Extension
#Infiltrate the labia minora with epinephrine and saline (1:250,000).
#Split inner and outer lamellae with a combination of sharp and blunt dissection.
#Suture together the inner lamellae in 3 separate layers around an 18-F silastic Foley catheter. Use 5-0 Monocryl for the innermost layer followed by 2 imbricating layers of 4-0 Monocryl.
#Use the mucosal flap from the vagina to complete the proximal-most portion of the urethral extension.
Title: Re: Ya wanna Wiki? Ok, just don't get any on the walls!
Post by: Pica Pica on September 04, 2008, 04:38:08 PM
Post by: Pica Pica on September 04, 2008, 04:38:08 PM
i picked rarely go now.
but the option comes with 's okay. I think it's very good, I just don't read it anymore.
but the option comes with 's okay. I think it's very good, I just don't read it anymore.
Title: Re: Ya wanna Wiki? Ok, just don't get any on the walls!
Post by: iFindMeHere on September 08, 2008, 08:42:09 PM
Post by: iFindMeHere on September 08, 2008, 08:42:09 PM
Posted on: September 04, 2008, 06:03:06 PM
ok so i checked it out and that whole HRT section of the wiki is gone. Wuhappened?
Title: Re: Ya wanna Wiki? Ok, just don't get any on the walls!
Post by: Elwood on September 08, 2008, 10:58:42 PM
Post by: Elwood on September 08, 2008, 10:58:42 PM
I have hardly used it.
Title: Re: Ya wanna Wiki? Ok, just don't get any on the walls!
Post by: Susan on September 09, 2008, 12:55:10 AM
Post by: Susan on September 09, 2008, 12:55:10 AM
Quote from: iFindMeHere on September 08, 2008, 08:42:09 PM
Posted on: September 04, 2008, 06:03:06 PM
ok so i checked it out and that whole HRT section of the wiki is gone. Wuhappened?
http://susans.org/wiki/Category:Hormone_replacement_therapy (http://susans.org/wiki/Category:Hormone_replacement_therapy)
http://susans.org/wiki/Hormone_replacement_therapy_%28female-to-male%29 (http://susans.org/wiki/Hormone_replacement_therapy_%28female-to-male%29)
http://susans.org/wiki/Hormone_replacement_therapy_%28male-to-female%29 (http://susans.org/wiki/Hormone_replacement_therapy_%28male-to-female%29)
Title: Re: Ya wanna Wiki? Ok, just don't get any on the walls!
Post by: iFindMeHere on September 09, 2008, 01:01:56 AM
Post by: iFindMeHere on September 09, 2008, 01:01:56 AM
Quote from: Susan on September 09, 2008, 12:55:10 AMQuote from: iFindMeHere on September 08, 2008, 08:42:09 PM
Posted on: September 04, 2008, 06:03:06 PM
ok so i checked it out and that whole HRT section of the wiki is gone. Wuhappened?
http://susans.org/wiki/Category:Hormone_replacement_therapy (http://susans.org/wiki/Category:Hormone_replacement_therapy)
http://susans.org/wiki/Hormone_replacement_therapy_%28female-to-male%29 (http://susans.org/wiki/Hormone_replacement_therapy_%28female-to-male%29)
http://susans.org/wiki/Hormone_replacement_therapy_%28male-to-female%29 (http://susans.org/wiki/Hormone_replacement_therapy_%28male-to-female%29)
ahhh, my computer must have been retarded at the moment (had to redo it today woo)
Title: Re: Ya wanna Wiki? Ok, just don't get any on the walls!
Post by: Jay on September 09, 2008, 05:03:26 AM
Post by: Jay on September 09, 2008, 05:03:26 AM
I've gone there before but rarely go now. 's OK
Title: Re: Ya wanna Wiki? Ok, just don't get any on the walls!
Post by: Renate on September 09, 2008, 06:02:19 AM
Post by: Renate on September 09, 2008, 06:02:19 AM
Quote from: iFindMeHere on September 08, 2008, 08:42:09 PMOk, problem cleared up, but in the future, the search box can be a good place to start.
...that whole HRT section of the wiki is gone.
We make a lot of effort to have something sensible come up when somebody types something in.
For example, searching for:
Cross-dress, Cross-dresser, Crossdress, Crossdresser, Crossdressing, Cross dress, Cross dresser, Cross dressing or CD
will all direct you to the article on Cross-dressing.
You could have found the articles on HRT by typing HRT in the search box.
Title: Re: Ya wanna Wiki? Ok, just don't get any on the walls!
Post by: Sandy on September 09, 2008, 08:58:11 AM
Post by: Sandy on September 09, 2008, 08:58:11 AM
Actually, the wiki was instrumental in providing a collection of information to my HR group to educate them on the issues of being transsexual.
It saved them quite a bit of time for having to surf themselves and without having to wade through all the she-male porn.
Also, I do appreciate having as much information as possible. Even if it is quite technical. Additional entries can also be added to give more introductory information.
I read every entry in the wiki in my preparation for my transition and found it quite helpful. Yes there are other articles in wikipedia that could be cross referenced and maybe that might be a good idea. However some of the articles here have been written by Susan's own people and give a personal point of view to their experience. Those I think are quite valuable.
-Sandy
It saved them quite a bit of time for having to surf themselves and without having to wade through all the she-male porn.
Also, I do appreciate having as much information as possible. Even if it is quite technical. Additional entries can also be added to give more introductory information.
I read every entry in the wiki in my preparation for my transition and found it quite helpful. Yes there are other articles in wikipedia that could be cross referenced and maybe that might be a good idea. However some of the articles here have been written by Susan's own people and give a personal point of view to their experience. Those I think are quite valuable.
-Sandy