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Title: "Types" of TS/GID per Drs?
Post by: iFindMeHere on September 21, 2008, 10:36:45 AM
I am a Bear of Very Little Brain when I wake up, and I thought I read something in anoher thread about there being different "types" of us. What does this mean? Are there different types or do i just need more  :icon_caffine: ?
Title: Re: "Types" of TS/GID per Drs?
Post by: Nero on September 21, 2008, 10:44:01 AM
the name of the guy escapes me, but there's a chart for mtf types (type 6 is the most severe, etc). doesn't really apply to us though.
Title: Re: "Types" of TS/GID per Drs?
Post by: iFindMeHere on September 21, 2008, 11:04:37 AM
HEY HOW COME WE DON'T GET NONE!!!

kidding totally kidding. I prefer to be labeled as little as possible.
Title: Re: "Types" of TS/GID per Drs?
Post by: NicholeW. on September 21, 2008, 11:07:30 AM
Benjamin, Harry. Other typologies are Blanchard, Ray, Bailey, J. Michael, Lawrence, Anne.

And Nero is absolutely correct about such types being constructs made for and about MTFs. The above people do not, have not and probably see no need to concern themselves with FTMs. Kinda like the sexism you'd experienced before as a woman with medical stuff, comes in to bite you as a man as well.

Sorry guys. It's BS, but until things change a bit ...

HUGS,

Nichole


Title: Re: "Types" of TS/GID per Drs?
Post by: iFindMeHere on September 21, 2008, 11:29:17 AM
Quote from: Nichole on September 21, 2008, 11:07:30 AM
Benjamin, Harry. Other typologies are Blanchard, Ray, Bailey, J. Michael, Lawrence, Anne.

And Nero is absolutely correct about such types being constructs made for and about MTFs. The above people do not, have not and probably see no need to concern themselves with FTMs. Kinda like the sexism you'd experienced before as a woman with medical stuff, comes in to bite you as a man as well.

Sorry guys. It's BS, but until things change a bit ...

HUGS,

Nichole


Now are you asserting that because you're women you're getting sexism-stigma (removing oneself from the dominant gender etc), or are you thinking that because of the sociocultural idiocy aspects of medicine, we are less recognised because they see us as women? Or is there something else I've missed entirely?
Title: Re: "Types" of TS/GID per Drs?
Post by: Dennis on September 21, 2008, 11:36:00 AM
I think it's the former, IFMH. People don't have anywhere near as many issues about FtM's as they seem to about MtF's. It's like, 'of course you'd want to be a guy, who wouldn't be?'

And I like that we fly low on the radar.

Dennis
Title: Re: "Types" of TS/GID per Drs?
Post by: iFindMeHere on September 21, 2008, 11:42:49 AM
OmG yeah that whole radical-feminist hypocracy about "oh you're just trying to get rights without being female" you know what???  :icon_censored:
Title: Re: "Types" of TS/GID per Drs?
Post by: Nero on September 21, 2008, 11:48:20 AM
Quote from: iFindMeHere on September 21, 2008, 11:29:17 AM
Quote from: Nichole on September 21, 2008, 11:07:30 AM
Benjamin, Harry. Other typologies are Blanchard, Ray, Bailey, J. Michael, Lawrence, Anne.

And Nero is absolutely correct about such types being constructs made for and about MTFs. The above people do not, have not and probably see no need to concern themselves with FTMs. Kinda like the sexism you'd experienced before as a woman with medical stuff, comes in to bite you as a man as well.

Sorry guys. It's BS, but until things change a bit ...

HUGS,

Nichole


Now are you asserting that because you're women you're getting sexism-stigma (removing oneself from the dominant gender etc), or are you thinking that because of the sociocultural idiocy aspects of medicine, we are less recognised because they see us as women? Or is there something else I've missed entirely?

The latter. What female bodied persons do is of little consequence and as Den said 'understandable'. It's only when a 'man' 'degrades himself' to become a member of the 'lesser sex' that they need charts and such.     :icon_rolleyes2:
Title: Re: "Types" of TS/GID per Drs?
Post by: iFindMeHere on September 21, 2008, 11:50:22 AM
Quote from: Nero on September 21, 2008, 11:48:20 AM
Quote from: iFindMeHere on September 21, 2008, 11:29:17 AM
Quote from: Nichole on September 21, 2008, 11:07:30 AM
Benjamin, Harry. Other typologies are Blanchard, Ray, Bailey, J. Michael, Lawrence, Anne.

And Nero is absolutely correct about such types being constructs made for and about MTFs. The above people do not, have not and probably see no need to concern themselves with FTMs. Kinda like the sexism you'd experienced before as a woman with medical stuff, comes in to bite you as a man as well.

Sorry guys. It's BS, but until things change a bit ...

HUGS,

Nichole


Now are you asserting that because you're women you're getting sexism-stigma (removing oneself from the dominant gender etc), or are you thinking that because of the sociocultural idiocy aspects of medicine, we are less recognised because they see us as women? Or is there something else I've missed entirely?

The latter. What female bodied persons do is of little consequence and as Den said 'understandable'. It's only when a 'man' 'degrades himself' to become a member of the 'lesser sex' that they need charts and such.   [/sarcasm]

*nods*
Title: Re: "Types" of TS/GID per Drs?
Post by: tinkerbell on September 21, 2008, 12:23:32 PM
Hmmm...this is the same scale I was telling Hypatia about the other day.  It's called "Sex and Gender Role Disorientation and Indecision".  It is archaic & flawed in many ways.  And yes, I would have to agree that these sort of topics usually tend to cause drama here at Susan's, but hopefully that will not be the case this time! I'll be watching! ;)

As a reference (ONLY):

http://www.symposion.com/ijt/benjamin/chap_02table.htm (http://www.symposion.com/ijt/benjamin/chap_02table.htm)

tink :icon_chick:

Title: Re: "Types" of TS/GID per Drs?
Post by: iFindMeHere on September 21, 2008, 12:40:21 PM
Quote from: Tink on September 21, 2008, 12:23:32 PM
Hmmm...this is the same scale I was telling Hypatia about the other day.  It's called "Sex and Gender Role Disorientation and Indecision".  It is archaic & flawed in many ways.  And yes, I would have to agree that these sort of topics usually tend to cause drama here at Susan's, but hopefully that will not be the case this time! I'll be watching! ;)

As a reference (ONLY):

http://www.symposion.com/ijt/benjamin/chap_02table.htm (http://www.symposion.com/ijt/benjamin/chap_02table.htm)

tink :icon_chick:



crap. uh. we can delete this thread because drama bad.
Title: Re: "Types" of TS/GID per Drs?
Post by: tinkerbell on September 21, 2008, 12:41:58 PM
Quote from: iFindMeHere on September 21, 2008, 12:40:21 PM
crap. uh. we can delete this thread because drama bad.

True or we can lock it as well  ;D

tink :icon_chick:
Title: Re: "Types" of TS/GID per Drs?
Post by: iFindMeHere on September 21, 2008, 12:45:09 PM
Quote from: Tink on September 21, 2008, 12:41:58 PM
Quote from: iFindMeHere on September 21, 2008, 12:40:21 PM
crap. uh. we can delete this thread because drama bad.

True or we can lock it as well  ;D

tink :icon_chick:

You're the mod. I just prefer not to upset people.
Title: Re: "Types" of TS/GID per Drs?
Post by: NicholeW. on September 21, 2008, 02:54:55 PM
Or, Nero could move it to the FTM peer group board. Doesn't that still keep averyone but staff and admins out of the discussion and it sounded like it began as an FTM kinda question. Well, until I nodded my pointy little head at it. :)

Nichole